Lovefraud recently received the following e-mail. In it, I felt like I was reading a rerun of my experience.
I was involved with one of those 1 to 4% sociopaths/scammers you’ve outlined in your website.
I lost everything — Long story — you already know it — he was so charming — the love of my life — kind generous, giving, very sexy in and out of bed —
Anyways, it’s been just over 3 yrs (I was only with him 2 + yrs with a 3-month breakup period. Yep I took him back — Call me a LOSER now and hit the delete button — Wait, please don’t.) and I’m living in a mobile home park. Not any of the three properties I had on a golf course. Sold two of them and the third is heading for foreclosure. Put all the money 250K+ into a condo in Mexico and took loans out on my condo that I had paid off while I was selling new homes from ’95 -’05) the year I met him to pay for “our dream” — live in Mexico. I had an offer letter to work for the Four Seasons (selling luxury time shares — the interviews were long and the background check very extensive — I passed) and that would help pay the mortgage on the 3,000 sq. ft. beachfront condo WE bought — none of his money till he made some payments. And my job would hopefully cover his expenses of running his dream job of being a charter captain on a boat that we would lease from the person we bought the condo from — OMG — Thanks for listening. I need a support group to go to but I’d rather just be one-on-one and I’ve been to the therapists — they all (so far) just watch the clock and tell me stuff I already know.
Been extremely depressed — always suffered depression but was able to work and acquire my homes. Then, all of his promises and “deals” shot all my $$ and savings out the window — at a very high speed mind you.
How long does it take to get on with life?
My friends, which are fewer nowadays, say get over it and move on. But, I considered myself to be somewhat “street smart”. And so I continue to beat myself up for the horrific financial things I did and the mess I’m in. I know I need to accept some of the blame — but — he had the plan. I didn’t know his plan and went along with the Love sick person inside of me — finally, my ugh, prince had come — yada, yada, yada.
At the end (two weeks before our big move to start our new “fabulous” lives together I finally confronted him about his 150K in credit card debt. I have no idea why I didn’t run his credit before that close to our move — other than he was always paying for everything, including ALWAYS having to upgrade our flights to first class, etc — I thought he was just spoiling me — as he told me time and again — I deserved to be treated like a lady and he was going to be the one to do that — and claiming to pay off his cards monthly with his construction job.
By the way, yes he allowed me to run his credit one night when he was having one of his daily 6 Bud Lights. I’d gone to bed early — he came home beyond plastered, woke me up from a sound sleep and poured beer all over me — threw me to the ground and threatened to kill me (“Do you want me to kill you now?”) I responded two-fold. “Why are you wasting a beer?” and “No, I’d like to make it to my 43rd b-day.”
I called the police after he got up from holding me by my neck to the ground of our bedroom floor. I called a cab, as I’d already sold my sports car (as it wouldn’t have been too practical in Mexico) stayed in a motel for 2 weeks — next day called some movers and moved all my stuff to a storage — then after two weeks in “hiding” because I was afraid he’d go to my girlfriends homes looking for me. I stayed with a girlfriend until the tenants in my condo found a new place to move.
Sorry for rambling on — to repeat it’s been just over 3 yrs and I can remember everything like it was yesterday.
How long till I regain my life? I’m sure the answer is in ME — maybe a lobotomy? Please advise or let me know that I still have a life that’s worth living. I’ll be 46 in Feb. He’ll be turning 60 next yr.
Insidious tactic
This reader described in living color probably the most insidious tactic in the sociopathic arsenal: They target our dreams.
What better way to draw us in than to promise to make our deepest desires come true? How can we resist someone who wants what we want, and seemingly has the capacity to achieve it?
And how do the sociopaths know what we want? They ask us, and we tell them.
It happens early in the relationship, under the guise of “getting to know each other.” It goes something like this:
“So,” the sociopath asks, with pitch-perfect sincerity, “what do you really want in life?”
“I want a family before I get too old,” we reply. (Or, “I want to live on the beach on a tropical island.” Or, “I want to send my kids to a top college.” Or, “I want to retire while I’m still young enough to enjoy it.”)
“That’s what I want,” the sociopath replies, with a touch of feigned surprise. “We have so much in common. We must be meant for each other.”
Painful betrayal
Dreams explain one reason why the betrayal of the sociopath is so painful. Not only have they manipulated us, deceived us and stolen from us, but they used our own most treasured dreams to do it.
We have lost not only our love, money, time, home, and whatever else they have taken. We’ve lost our dreams. And that hurts.
Then, of course, comes the self-criticism. Why did we believe the sociopath? Why did we wait so long to check them out? Why didn’t we listen to people who warned us? Why didn’t we listen to ourselves?
Why? Because we wanted our dreams to come true.
It’s a brilliant tactic on the part of the predators. They use our dreams to hook us, and then because of our dreams, we don’t want to let go.
Recovery
So how, as this reader asks, do you move on in life? “I’m sure the answer is in me,” she writes.
She is right. A lobotomy is not necessary, but a “pain-ectomy” is. We have real, true, genuine pain because of what the sociopath did. In my opinion, we can’t analyze away the pain, or wish it away. Pain is emotional, and the only way to release it is emotional. We have to allow ourselves to experience it.
The only way out of the pain is through it.
This isn’t pretty. In my case, I spent a lot of time crying. To get out my anger, I imagined the con man’s face in a pillow, and beat it as hard as I could. Because our dreams were damaged, the pain goes deep, and releasing it is a process. We get rid of some, and more rises to take its place.
Eventually, however, we get to the point where we’ve cried all the tears and released all the anger. We get to the point of acceptance. Something awful happened, we had a part in it, but it’s time to move on.
Then we learn something about dreams. Dreams are linked to expectations, and expectations have a down side. Sometimes, if our expectations aren’t met, we feel like we’ve failed. Or, expectations blind us to other opportunities that may come our way. Because the new opportunities do not match our expectations, we don’t even see them.
Maybe we have to give up our original dreams. But that doesn’t mean there will never be dreams again. Perhaps something better, and more fulfilling, will come along, and because we are no longer looking to make a particular dream come true, we’ll see the new opportunity.
DW:
Independance…….it’s what’s for dinner!
(Wasnt that a commercial?? 🙂 )
This is GREAT, freeing, empowering feelings come from doing things for ourselves….WOMEN can do things…..and ya know, before ya know it…..your gonna be soddering the pipes yourself!
This is a prime example that you need to take a mental snapshot of………YOU CAN GET YOURSELF OUT OF A FIX!!!!!!!!!!
Kudos to you DW!!!!
(as i’m still waiting on my x-mas tree to be hoisted up to the 3rd floor to be decorated!)
DW!!! Great going girl!!!! You did well. There are a lot of things like that that we have to learn to take care of from changing a flat tire to getting the car serviced and oil changed, but you can DO IT!!! You can learn about these things.
Get yourself a notebook, and make lists of things to do for cold weather (for house and for car) and then make regular checks on these things like monthly.
Check for wear on your tires so you don’t have a flat/blow out. Check the oil level, fluid levels on your car, or take it to be serviced and checked by a professional on a regular level and ask advice.
Get your heating or AC units serviced before each season and ASK ADVICE like you did about the heating of the porches.
I got a remote read thermometer to put UNDER my house (it isn’t a basement but a crawl space) that reads the temperature under there. I have heaters under there and I watch the thermometer for the temp under the house and only plug them in when it is getting COLD ENOUGH to freeze the pipes. Because I INSULATED IT WELL under there, I have not had to actually plug those heaters in for 3 years now because it has stayed warm enough (over 32 degrees F under there) that water pipes will not freeze and burst. So because I don’t have to heat it “just to be safe” because I KNOW what the temp is, it saves me money and I”m still safe. The remote read thermometer was only 10$ so has saved more than that in extra heat bills.
Get some advice from professionals about how to take care of your house, car, appliances etc. and educate yourself and your child about these things. They are SURVIVAL SKILLS we all need to know. It will give you a new and bigger sense of INDEPENDENCE!!! and FREEDOM!!!! (((hugs))))
If I had a hammmmmmer, I’d a hammmer in the morrning, i’d hammer in the evening, all over this………..
🙂
You are beautiful, capable women. I am worried about being on my own like dancingwarrior. She handled that water leak like a pro.
I am sad again, too much time for contemplation it seems. With the holidays upon us and soon to be ex always about Christmas. He was a wonderful gift giver. Would get you something you mentioned once months ago. He prided himself on his gift giving.
Sometimes, the things that he has said through the years, “your too sensitive, you just want to start a fight, you have a terrible temper, your imagining it, you see everything clearly but me, I’m perfectly happy-you should be too,you take things too seriously-lighten up,you are wrong, I’m just coaching you, you should be on medication”, etc.
Sometimes those things he has said about me feel true, that I am unloveable and messed up. That I have no idea how to have a healthy relationship because I am faulty. I should be on the island of misfit toys, that’s where I belong.
Hello, pity party.
Why have I never actually got angry and told him off? Would that help my feelings resolve better? Daughter wants to tell him off and will when he leaves. I say, good for her. So why can’t I do it? The worst I’ve called him is a jerk, what the hell is wrong with me?
If anyone has some thoughts on how to move on and get some piece of mind, let me know. Just writing on lovefraud is catharic.
HENS!!!!! WEVE MISSED YOU DARLIN!!!Where you bin?
Glad your back!! {{HUGGS!!}} to the Moon and Back!!
Love, and smooches, Mama GemXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxxxxXxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Mama Gem,
Hens is in the house? I didn’t see an “oh my”. Where is he?
Hopeforjoy, nothing is wrong with you. He behaved that way because he is ABNORMAL. You should consider yourself strong for not stooping down to his level. You acted on the basis of love, trying to understand that which cannot be understood ( because he is a psychopath. ) HE acted on the basis of a predator-prey interaction. HE hurt you because he’s a little wimp that enjoys the effect he has on you, he likes hurting people, it makes him feel big, strong! ( Of course, with NC you’ve taken away that sense of control he has, so in the end HE’s lost. HE will always lose. ) You may have lost an innumerable amount of physical things, feel that you’ve lost parts of yourself ( that’s what abuse does. ) but you still have you, and that is not only enough, but it is everything. This entire time he has tried to come between THE MOST IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP : The one we have with ourselves. They try to severe that cord, and realign it with their abusive, dysfunctional, black hole, parasitic cores so that you would focus your attentions and effort on them. Your pain is like BLOOD to a shark in open water. Visualize that. HE is a predator, he THRIVED off seeing you in pain. THAT is the truth.
If you want, feel free to visualize your anger, get it out somehow, validate yourself, i’ve heard some people fantasize killing their P ( okay, it’s kosher as long as it’s not carried out in reality 😉 ) dismembering them, etc. They deserve it. It was deliberate, calculated, taking advantage of you.
He is a big ball of ooze and slime thats smells like a garbage dump and a sewage leak and he tries to rub it off on you and say you’re the one that smells of garbage. HE’s garbage. HE says things because he is a PROJECTION Machine. All those things he’s said to you? They’re tools, tools to try and dismantle your logic, tools to try and dismantle your wising up : Why? Because YOUR wising up would leave him without supply to DUMP all his garbage on. You are unglued.
Depending on the time you spent, you may have this tape recorder playing, in your head, of what he’s said. NONE of what he said is TRUE! If something he says pops up in your head, REPLACE it with the truth.
Did he call you too sensitive? How can he judge anyone’s sensitivity when he doesn’t have FEELINGS himself? He’s a psychopath! He thinks he can unload any tirade of vitriol on you and you should just “take it”. Because he is INHUMAN. You are a feeling, thinking person, and that makes you human. He tries to make your HUMANITY into abnormality by pointing it out as if it is some chink, some error. HE is the error, HE is the abnormality. Don’t let him convince you otherwise, even long after he’s gone physically.
Did he say you just want to start fights all the time? ( I got this one too ) Think about when he said this to you… was it when you were tired of putting up with his dysfunctional abusive behavior.. or when you found out another one of his lies? Well OF COURSE! That equates to him as “wanting to start fights”, when in reality, you’re doing the right thing for yourself, putting your foot down against being taken advantage of. But he throws this wrench (“you always want to start fights” ) in your process of standing up for yourself ( which is a HEALTHY process ) .. HE’s just annoyed that you’re picking up on his B.S., his lies, YOU’RE GETTING IN HIS WAY OF TAKING ADVANTAGE OF YOU. So that is what he means by, “You always want to start fights” ( P-SPEAK : Why are you getting in my way? I should be able to abuse you as I PLEASE. How dare you stand up to me?! You’re supposed to just lay down, bend over and TAKE IT!” )
“You take things too seriously” >>> P Speak : You’re catching onto my abnormal behavior. So I’m going to make you feel as if YOU are the crazy one so you doubt yourself further, so I can further take advantage of your good nature.
“I’m perfectly happy, you should be too” >>>> LOL this one’s just screaming out at me. P Speak : I’m perfectly HAPPY shitting on your parade, I’m perfectly happy to see YOU unhappy, you should stop getting on my case because I’m quite enjoying seeing you squirm around in pain. It really cures the boredom that results from being so DAMN HOLLOW and EMPTY all of the time.
Get it? Replace his words with the truth. Don’t let their “fucked up word salad” get to you, because if you analyze anything they say, there’s a motive, there’s a nugget of their dysfunction embedded in it. If you feel like crying, by all means let the tears flow. An incredible injustice has been done to you, validate THAT.
We all have our moments of struggle, but we have to get through them to get past them.
Dancingnancies,
OMG! I am rolling right now! Instead of the pity party, I need to replace the word salad with spath translation! Oh, that is so good!
You picked up my mood immediately. It’s like you could read spaths mind. As I was thinking about the wonderful gifts I forgot about the times he laughed at my gifts or rubbed my back when I cried but wanted me to cry. Oh the things spaths will do to fill up their garbage filled innards.
I really needed to hear those things and you articulated it soooooo well. Big hugs to you! It’s way to easy to beat up on myself when it’s how I have been trained.
Pure projection, they’re so weird, so freaking weird!
Hope:
Stay strong….you’ve got a long road ahead…..no road for the weary eyed!
give yourself moments of pity party……BUT….know exactly as what it is!
Then……think of the strength you have…..and validate that.
Moving ‘on’ is difficult when your in the trenches. I think it’s worth just getting on…….minute by minute…..and giving yourself a pat on the back each minute for making it through THAT minute!
You have plenty of time for ‘cleanup’……there is a time and a place…..
Make it through the first steps and concentrate on those!
AND keep YOURSELF WELL!!!!!!!
HOPEFORJOY –
“Why have I never actually got angry and told him off? Would that help my feelings resolve better? Daughter wants to tell him off and will when he leaves. I say, good for her. So why can’t I do it? The worst I’ve called him is a jerk, what the hell is wrong with me?”
Nothing – that’s why he chose you babe.
The anger will come, don’t fret it. You are still grieving; there will be bits and pieces of anger at this stage, but the real, cathartic, mind-set-changing anger will come later – once he’s gone and you are NC in the true sense, when you can step back from the situation and analyse it properly. You can’t do that right now – you are still trying to survive, you are still IN it – you have your daughter to worry about and your safety to ensure until he’s out of that house. It’s too dangerous just yet for you to put your foot down all the way.
Get him OUT ASAP, change the locks and beef up your security (I found that having to spend money I could ill afford on stuff like THAT just to keep him out help me to maintain the rage…)
You will start to get properly angry once all of this has happened and you are licking your wounds. I think the ability to be angry comes with the newly acquired ability to breathe freely once they are gone – it’s like there’s not enough air to do both while they are hanging around.
Give yourself a break – there is no set time-frame, only a set process you should follow. xx