Lovefraud recently received the following e-mail. In it, I felt like I was reading a rerun of my experience.
I was involved with one of those 1 to 4% sociopaths/scammers you’ve outlined in your website.
I lost everything — Long story — you already know it — he was so charming — the love of my life — kind generous, giving, very sexy in and out of bed —
Anyways, it’s been just over 3 yrs (I was only with him 2 + yrs with a 3-month breakup period. Yep I took him back — Call me a LOSER now and hit the delete button — Wait, please don’t.) and I’m living in a mobile home park. Not any of the three properties I had on a golf course. Sold two of them and the third is heading for foreclosure. Put all the money 250K+ into a condo in Mexico and took loans out on my condo that I had paid off while I was selling new homes from ’95 -’05) the year I met him to pay for “our dream” — live in Mexico. I had an offer letter to work for the Four Seasons (selling luxury time shares — the interviews were long and the background check very extensive — I passed) and that would help pay the mortgage on the 3,000 sq. ft. beachfront condo WE bought — none of his money till he made some payments. And my job would hopefully cover his expenses of running his dream job of being a charter captain on a boat that we would lease from the person we bought the condo from — OMG — Thanks for listening. I need a support group to go to but I’d rather just be one-on-one and I’ve been to the therapists — they all (so far) just watch the clock and tell me stuff I already know.
Been extremely depressed — always suffered depression but was able to work and acquire my homes. Then, all of his promises and “deals” shot all my $$ and savings out the window — at a very high speed mind you.
How long does it take to get on with life?
My friends, which are fewer nowadays, say get over it and move on. But, I considered myself to be somewhat “street smart”. And so I continue to beat myself up for the horrific financial things I did and the mess I’m in. I know I need to accept some of the blame — but — he had the plan. I didn’t know his plan and went along with the Love sick person inside of me — finally, my ugh, prince had come — yada, yada, yada.
At the end (two weeks before our big move to start our new “fabulous” lives together I finally confronted him about his 150K in credit card debt. I have no idea why I didn’t run his credit before that close to our move — other than he was always paying for everything, including ALWAYS having to upgrade our flights to first class, etc — I thought he was just spoiling me — as he told me time and again — I deserved to be treated like a lady and he was going to be the one to do that — and claiming to pay off his cards monthly with his construction job.
By the way, yes he allowed me to run his credit one night when he was having one of his daily 6 Bud Lights. I’d gone to bed early — he came home beyond plastered, woke me up from a sound sleep and poured beer all over me — threw me to the ground and threatened to kill me (“Do you want me to kill you now?”) I responded two-fold. “Why are you wasting a beer?” and “No, I’d like to make it to my 43rd b-day.”
I called the police after he got up from holding me by my neck to the ground of our bedroom floor. I called a cab, as I’d already sold my sports car (as it wouldn’t have been too practical in Mexico) stayed in a motel for 2 weeks — next day called some movers and moved all my stuff to a storage — then after two weeks in “hiding” because I was afraid he’d go to my girlfriends homes looking for me. I stayed with a girlfriend until the tenants in my condo found a new place to move.
Sorry for rambling on — to repeat it’s been just over 3 yrs and I can remember everything like it was yesterday.
How long till I regain my life? I’m sure the answer is in ME — maybe a lobotomy? Please advise or let me know that I still have a life that’s worth living. I’ll be 46 in Feb. He’ll be turning 60 next yr.
Insidious tactic
This reader described in living color probably the most insidious tactic in the sociopathic arsenal: They target our dreams.
What better way to draw us in than to promise to make our deepest desires come true? How can we resist someone who wants what we want, and seemingly has the capacity to achieve it?
And how do the sociopaths know what we want? They ask us, and we tell them.
It happens early in the relationship, under the guise of “getting to know each other.” It goes something like this:
“So,” the sociopath asks, with pitch-perfect sincerity, “what do you really want in life?”
“I want a family before I get too old,” we reply. (Or, “I want to live on the beach on a tropical island.” Or, “I want to send my kids to a top college.” Or, “I want to retire while I’m still young enough to enjoy it.”)
“That’s what I want,” the sociopath replies, with a touch of feigned surprise. “We have so much in common. We must be meant for each other.”
Painful betrayal
Dreams explain one reason why the betrayal of the sociopath is so painful. Not only have they manipulated us, deceived us and stolen from us, but they used our own most treasured dreams to do it.
We have lost not only our love, money, time, home, and whatever else they have taken. We’ve lost our dreams. And that hurts.
Then, of course, comes the self-criticism. Why did we believe the sociopath? Why did we wait so long to check them out? Why didn’t we listen to people who warned us? Why didn’t we listen to ourselves?
Why? Because we wanted our dreams to come true.
It’s a brilliant tactic on the part of the predators. They use our dreams to hook us, and then because of our dreams, we don’t want to let go.
Recovery
So how, as this reader asks, do you move on in life? “I’m sure the answer is in me,” she writes.
She is right. A lobotomy is not necessary, but a “pain-ectomy” is. We have real, true, genuine pain because of what the sociopath did. In my opinion, we can’t analyze away the pain, or wish it away. Pain is emotional, and the only way to release it is emotional. We have to allow ourselves to experience it.
The only way out of the pain is through it.
This isn’t pretty. In my case, I spent a lot of time crying. To get out my anger, I imagined the con man’s face in a pillow, and beat it as hard as I could. Because our dreams were damaged, the pain goes deep, and releasing it is a process. We get rid of some, and more rises to take its place.
Eventually, however, we get to the point where we’ve cried all the tears and released all the anger. We get to the point of acceptance. Something awful happened, we had a part in it, but it’s time to move on.
Then we learn something about dreams. Dreams are linked to expectations, and expectations have a down side. Sometimes, if our expectations aren’t met, we feel like we’ve failed. Or, expectations blind us to other opportunities that may come our way. Because the new opportunities do not match our expectations, we don’t even see them.
Maybe we have to give up our original dreams. But that doesn’t mean there will never be dreams again. Perhaps something better, and more fulfilling, will come along, and because we are no longer looking to make a particular dream come true, we’ll see the new opportunity.
Dear Hope4,
Darling the do not speak the same language we do…..we’ve had some fun times translating their e mails from P-speak into English. Dancing nancies did a great job of translation!
WORD SALAD for sure!!!! Pretending to be nice! LOL Chirp up and get your adamant on and go ahead and get mad at him!
Sit in a chair and face an empty one, and pretend he is in the empty one, and TELL HIM OFF!!!! Tell him everything you ever wanted to tell him, and if the chair starts to speak back, tell it to SHUT THE FARK UP!!!! YOU are speaking now!!!! (((hugs))))
When is he going to be served and forced to move out? What did your attorney say?
Hope,
there is nothing wrong with you. You are behaving exactly perfect. Maybe your intuition is guiding you. think about it. what do spaths want? emotion. they want you to have the anger and rage they experience everyday. they want you to have their narcissistic injury. It’s why they pick fights with us, and it’s why they do all the subtle things they do that leave us feeling slimed.
when it’s time to tell him what you think of him, you will know exactly what to say. and you will serve it to him as a COLD dish. No emotion, just a cutting observation that he can’t refute.
Oxy,
Good plan, just get it out but not at spath. He wouldn’t get it anyway.
I talked to my attorney and he is waiting to hear from spaths attorney to set up mediation. He is looking at property and said he would be out by Jan. 3rd. Who knows if this will be followed through on but I am still pushing.
I read an e-mail to his friend that said do NOT call the house. Also his family now all contact him via his cell phone. I’m sure he’s laying it on thick!
Oxy-I know that it is a process and I am still trying to gather up my adamant, I too wish it were faster. He is finally leaving me alone and not trying to come into my room at night or hug me. It’s like getting served the papers made him step off. Going from “You’re so beautiful, you’re perfect, let me do that, I love you so much, I’ll do anything to make it work” to dirty looks and spiteful comments is disconcerting but at least I expected it from listening to the peeps at lovefraud.
It was so true to form that he would devalue and discard, switching on a dime from the lovebomb. Can I say that you called it? When he resembles a normal person (his mask) is when I start the “maybe I was too _______” thinking. Thanks for snapping me out of it, I’m sure it will be better when he’s gone.
Skylar,
I think serving up the judgement of what I REALLY think of him will be best spoken in a monotone voice. Best if I do it after he is moved out. I don’t want to keep samples of my coffee again. Your right about their insides, kind of like the grinch, mangled in tangled up knots.
Hope, there’s no question that they are dangerous. Mine was poisoning me almost the whole time we were together. All my muscle pain left me when I left him. I thought it was from stress relief, but then I went back to the house and saw that he had EMPTIED OUT THE REFRIGERATOR. I had only been gone less than 2 days! The food, and there was lots of it, was nowhere to be found, he didn’t even put it in the trash.
Dear Aussiegirl,
You are right about not wanting to insite his anger. He thinks his lies about me are believed and if daughter or myself let him know that we’re on to him, he might ramp up the crap.
When he is believed it’s like it gives him more steam and he doesn’t feel threatened. He becomes arrogant when another person buys the bulls***. If he is backed into a corner, no telling how he’ll react. I want to tell him off but I won’t.
I will not let him know what I am up to because I don’t want to play my hand.
Thanks for the advice! I was really disheartened to hear about your treatment in the court system. Just because you weren’t visibly upset was no reason to take off the order of protection. Do you need to have a breakdown in front of the magistrate in order to be belived? Pleeasseeeeee!
Skylar,
I take nothing for granted. So glad you are out of that situation. Yours was a sly one for a very long time. Good thing you had enough of a survival instinct to get away. The FBI call was a good one, quick thinking.
I’m really tired of being on high alert around the house or around him. The end is so close, actually I should say the beginning is so close! LOL
Hope
please don’t say the end is close. My exP would say that to me near the end. “You Don’t realize how are near the end you are!”
that was my cue to exit stage left
Edited Because my droid makes up words for me!
I’ve been thinking more about this idea of ‘inbetween – ness’ during the process of splitting permanently from a P. It’s definitely a process rather than a single discrete event.
I think it is something experienced especially in divorce with it’s long process. But being with a P complicates the process as we lose our identity with a P.
Van Gennep coined the term ‘rites of passage’ to identify life changing transitions we participate in ie birth, coming of age, marriage, becoming a parent etc
He studied world cultures and found all rituals or rites went through 3 phases
1) The pre LIMINAL – the person has not undertaken the rite but is separated from their regular life eg if marrying then this phase might be being engaged – not a wife yet but not single either
2) The LIMINAL – the actual rite
The word LIMINAL means threshold – like a door
3) The post LIMINAL where the person is welcomed back into the community and recognised in their new role.
I’m thinking splitting with a spath (and especially divorce) is a rite of passage yet we have no rite to mark it and society has a generally negative view of the divorced person.
I think it;s so big a change, we need support from others and rituals to excise them from our lives. So we come here to people who dress our wounds and teach us how to live ‘post spath’ – we learn from their experience.
Does this resonate with anyone else? Did you do anything ritual to get rid of the spath or are you thinking of anything?
One step -= sorry about the spaM! It appears to have stopped now finally. Happy happy holidays to you 🙂
Hens – delightful to see you again and glad you’re getting back into life. The hardest part of seeing a new future is not wanting them to be the ‘one’ in the image imagined. So you’ve made massive progress to be in that space.
Erin – I ended up splitting with the date man. We had some fun and have managed to remain friends, but relationship just didn;t feel right so I had the courage to speak quickly and do something about it,
Oxy – so lovely to see you. Always such a warm welcome. I do read what you write often and am blown away by your love for the people here and all the unconditional support you give – you rock!
Skylar – I like the idea of exiting stage left – always been involved in theatrics 😛
Hope – I feel as vulnerable as you do. Always. But I have to try kick my own ass and remind myself
“There is no prince on a white charger coming to fix your life. You have to do it.”
It makes me get off my ass and do things and then I feel better. But I hate dealing with big life stuff like water leaks.
I agree DW handled it like a pro = maybe a business plan one day! A business that sorts out your life 🙂
Hugs ladies and gents – have a fab day – we are officially spath free and healing fast 🙂
Oh my god. I can’t believe there are so many people on here. It’s not that I thought I was completely alone, but I didn’t realize that this happens to so many people.
Thank Elvis I’ve found you!
I just found out THIS MORNING that the man I’ve been living with for 3 months is MARRIED! When I read this article about playing on your dreams, I cried. This is exactly what I’m dealing with right now.
Thank you for this website. I look forward to writing more tomorrow.
is anyone still up? i just posted on another site and i’ve had a day fro m hell. *8 months or more of no contact after over 8 years and i came so close to blowin g it.