Lovefraud recently received the following e-mail. In it, I felt like I was reading a rerun of my experience.
I was involved with one of those 1 to 4% sociopaths/scammers you’ve outlined in your website.
I lost everything — Long story — you already know it — he was so charming — the love of my life — kind generous, giving, very sexy in and out of bed —
Anyways, it’s been just over 3 yrs (I was only with him 2 + yrs with a 3-month breakup period. Yep I took him back — Call me a LOSER now and hit the delete button — Wait, please don’t.) and I’m living in a mobile home park. Not any of the three properties I had on a golf course. Sold two of them and the third is heading for foreclosure. Put all the money 250K+ into a condo in Mexico and took loans out on my condo that I had paid off while I was selling new homes from ’95 -’05) the year I met him to pay for “our dream” — live in Mexico. I had an offer letter to work for the Four Seasons (selling luxury time shares — the interviews were long and the background check very extensive — I passed) and that would help pay the mortgage on the 3,000 sq. ft. beachfront condo WE bought — none of his money till he made some payments. And my job would hopefully cover his expenses of running his dream job of being a charter captain on a boat that we would lease from the person we bought the condo from — OMG — Thanks for listening. I need a support group to go to but I’d rather just be one-on-one and I’ve been to the therapists — they all (so far) just watch the clock and tell me stuff I already know.
Been extremely depressed — always suffered depression but was able to work and acquire my homes. Then, all of his promises and “deals” shot all my $$ and savings out the window — at a very high speed mind you.
How long does it take to get on with life?
My friends, which are fewer nowadays, say get over it and move on. But, I considered myself to be somewhat “street smart”. And so I continue to beat myself up for the horrific financial things I did and the mess I’m in. I know I need to accept some of the blame — but — he had the plan. I didn’t know his plan and went along with the Love sick person inside of me — finally, my ugh, prince had come — yada, yada, yada.
At the end (two weeks before our big move to start our new “fabulous” lives together I finally confronted him about his 150K in credit card debt. I have no idea why I didn’t run his credit before that close to our move — other than he was always paying for everything, including ALWAYS having to upgrade our flights to first class, etc — I thought he was just spoiling me — as he told me time and again — I deserved to be treated like a lady and he was going to be the one to do that — and claiming to pay off his cards monthly with his construction job.
By the way, yes he allowed me to run his credit one night when he was having one of his daily 6 Bud Lights. I’d gone to bed early — he came home beyond plastered, woke me up from a sound sleep and poured beer all over me — threw me to the ground and threatened to kill me (“Do you want me to kill you now?”) I responded two-fold. “Why are you wasting a beer?” and “No, I’d like to make it to my 43rd b-day.”
I called the police after he got up from holding me by my neck to the ground of our bedroom floor. I called a cab, as I’d already sold my sports car (as it wouldn’t have been too practical in Mexico) stayed in a motel for 2 weeks — next day called some movers and moved all my stuff to a storage — then after two weeks in “hiding” because I was afraid he’d go to my girlfriends homes looking for me. I stayed with a girlfriend until the tenants in my condo found a new place to move.
Sorry for rambling on — to repeat it’s been just over 3 yrs and I can remember everything like it was yesterday.
How long till I regain my life? I’m sure the answer is in ME — maybe a lobotomy? Please advise or let me know that I still have a life that’s worth living. I’ll be 46 in Feb. He’ll be turning 60 next yr.
Insidious tactic
This reader described in living color probably the most insidious tactic in the sociopathic arsenal: They target our dreams.
What better way to draw us in than to promise to make our deepest desires come true? How can we resist someone who wants what we want, and seemingly has the capacity to achieve it?
And how do the sociopaths know what we want? They ask us, and we tell them.
It happens early in the relationship, under the guise of “getting to know each other.” It goes something like this:
“So,” the sociopath asks, with pitch-perfect sincerity, “what do you really want in life?”
“I want a family before I get too old,” we reply. (Or, “I want to live on the beach on a tropical island.” Or, “I want to send my kids to a top college.” Or, “I want to retire while I’m still young enough to enjoy it.”)
“That’s what I want,” the sociopath replies, with a touch of feigned surprise. “We have so much in common. We must be meant for each other.”
Painful betrayal
Dreams explain one reason why the betrayal of the sociopath is so painful. Not only have they manipulated us, deceived us and stolen from us, but they used our own most treasured dreams to do it.
We have lost not only our love, money, time, home, and whatever else they have taken. We’ve lost our dreams. And that hurts.
Then, of course, comes the self-criticism. Why did we believe the sociopath? Why did we wait so long to check them out? Why didn’t we listen to people who warned us? Why didn’t we listen to ourselves?
Why? Because we wanted our dreams to come true.
It’s a brilliant tactic on the part of the predators. They use our dreams to hook us, and then because of our dreams, we don’t want to let go.
Recovery
So how, as this reader asks, do you move on in life? “I’m sure the answer is in me,” she writes.
She is right. A lobotomy is not necessary, but a “pain-ectomy” is. We have real, true, genuine pain because of what the sociopath did. In my opinion, we can’t analyze away the pain, or wish it away. Pain is emotional, and the only way to release it is emotional. We have to allow ourselves to experience it.
The only way out of the pain is through it.
This isn’t pretty. In my case, I spent a lot of time crying. To get out my anger, I imagined the con man’s face in a pillow, and beat it as hard as I could. Because our dreams were damaged, the pain goes deep, and releasing it is a process. We get rid of some, and more rises to take its place.
Eventually, however, we get to the point where we’ve cried all the tears and released all the anger. We get to the point of acceptance. Something awful happened, we had a part in it, but it’s time to move on.
Then we learn something about dreams. Dreams are linked to expectations, and expectations have a down side. Sometimes, if our expectations aren’t met, we feel like we’ve failed. Or, expectations blind us to other opportunities that may come our way. Because the new opportunities do not match our expectations, we don’t even see them.
Maybe we have to give up our original dreams. But that doesn’t mean there will never be dreams again. Perhaps something better, and more fulfilling, will come along, and because we are no longer looking to make a particular dream come true, we’ll see the new opportunity.
Yes, this is all true. And sometimes people just go through flaky stages in their life for reasons unknown. But, you have to decide which way you want it to go.
One of my closest friends in life was patient with me during mine and I will always be grateful for her patience and understanding.
Sometimes, well sometimes life is hard.
One, why don’t you just ask her why she does that?
silver – right after your last message a couple of my email accounts seemed to be hacked. so i left your skype message ( your old ph# no longer being in operation) letting you know i was not longer comfortable using my email accounts, and giving you my # again.
you sound sad silver. moving was important, but it means most relationships are new – ever with the grocers, and that can feel real lonely.
glad to hear things are going well wit your son.
are you back in school?
OX,
That’s pretty tough about the alimony laws in your state. Its tricky navigating all those laws.
I remember when I made my decision, I planned where I was going and waited a year. Maybe I got less $’s, but I had a rocket docket to work with and no nonsense.
I love the Western Persona that doesn’t mess around. The coasts tend to be, well, not so much like that.
You’re in pretty country though. Gorgeous!
silver – she is young (22) has ADHD and anxiety issues, and doesn’t manage time well – so that often means she’s not that responsible – but i need to tell her, and say bye bye.
i have no tolerance for it now. it makes me angry.
Wow.
you can skype me.
Yes school started. I stay busy with it. Sometimes I wonder if I will be 80 when I finally finish, but I persist!
Things will change. Things always do.
Yes, I was sad. It was hard to be alone for the weekend. Haunted by all that has happened, and changed. Really, it all went so fast.
And when it was snowing and the wind blew, I was reminded of how I was feeling the last time that was so and how far away it all is.
Sometimes it all comes UP. And as we go into the holidays its kind of like recrossing the battlefield you fought on before… there is wreckage even though the landscape is different now.
I really have to fight the urge to find out what happened to him. To know the end of the story. Its a form of bargaining and there can be none. Nada. Zero.
It holds that I was true and he was not. Looking back now, it all seems so different. Everything has changed. Evolved. Now when the devils of the past dance in my head, I can observe them as from a distance and not suffer so terribly as I did in the early days. But I did. And it was terrible. And it was when the snow fell and the wind waved the branches of the trees in a far away place that is to me like Avalon. There is no barge to call anymore. Only the branches of trees in the winter wind, far, far away.
I am at peace, the fire is warm and the dogs are quiet. Life is so much more gentle now by comparison!
One,
Well, there you have it.
Does not at all sound like a good fit!
Here is an interesting article about oxytocin, the bonding hormone, it doesn’t “work” in borderlines the article says (and we know it isn’t useful in psychopaths as they have fewer receptors though they appear to have adequate hormone just nothing to bond it to)
http://pagingdrgupta.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/29/hormone-heightens-memories-of-mom/
I’ve got a book ordered about this very subject and am interested in how this hormone functions or doesn’t in the psychopaths, Dr. Leedom did an article here on LF about researching it in sheep.
I can see how the psychopaths who are not receptive to oxytocin would not “bond” with others and therefore would objectify others. That could be part of the genetic links, and the failure to “bond” and intergrate with others emotionally may be the problem…but looks like (at this point) just giving it to them won’t help.
I also, think, for what it is worth, that yhou can take a “normal” baby and abuse and neglect it enough at birth that it is a “created” psychopath (unbonded to other humans) but with someone who has the genetic tendency to not bond it is an up hill battle to make them see others as human and not prey,, but I hope and would like to believe that it can be done, to make them less toxic and abusive if nothing else. To give them empathy? Not sure, but maybe to just civilize them some. Just musings. Let me know what you think about the article.
This is a re-run of my story. Only my spath found my most vulnerable spot in telling me he could be a big brother and mentor to my son. I was trying to use tough love with my son when the spath CONvinced me I should never “give up” and should allow him (my son)to come spend time with him. Well of course in order to make this happen I temporarily needed to pay for the condo the spath needed to have in order for my son to come receive his mentoring. Indeed he had already told me many lies, (un be knownst to me) but there was a job he was starting in six weeks that would more than repay me ….and so began the rape of me financially, emotionally, and spiritually. I am even more crazy because he raped my son as well. My son is not better from my knowing the spath, he is only more angry and making even worse choices than befor this man came into our lives. There is only one and I mean ONLY one thing that makes my story a little different than so many I have read on this sight. I have baggered this man through texting and phone messages to repay me as he all along promished with incrediable embellished lies. I also contacted his family and many of them will no longer speak with him until he makes ammends. He has sent me a sum of 2,100 dollars in cash over five monts. Does he NOT fit the profile of a spath though everything else I have read nails that label as an absolute case book definition. And I have done a lot of research. Your thoughts about this would be appreciated. Is his sending me a fraction of the money he stole another form of control?
Watchdog
Dear Watch dog, lYour question about him sending you a fraction of the money he stole another form of control?
YES!!!! Absolutely, as long as you hope he will give you some of the money he is in control and you will come to him and beg for your money.
Is your son away from him now?
Is he living in the bad man living in the condo that you bought?
Is there any legal way you can sue him for this money, or collect the money if you get a judgment? Is this a significant amount of money?
What is the relationship to your son now and him?
Did he really physically sexually rape your son? If so, I would advise pressing charges for this.
Does this man have a job/career? Does he have a professional license of any kind? Does he have any assets in his name?
Look at the legal aspects of it and if the money is a serious amount of money I would see about legally getting it back if possible.
If it isn’t an amount of money you can’t live without you might be better to just forget it…sometimes they make it so that it is more blood and pain to get it than the money is “worth.”
Look at the pros and cons from both directions and maybe talk to an attorney. Some states verbal agreements are valid. Good luck.
Wow, it’s been awhile since I have visited this site. It has been almost two yrs since I got out of my situation and Im still having repercussions of the decisions I made with my “spath.” This site really “brings it home” so to speak and when I read the article on how Sociopaths target our dreams,I cringed at the part when how they feign surprise and say “we have so much in common, we must be meant for each other” I was immediately taken back to the place and time when those words were spoken to me(almost verbatim) and I felt like I was the luckiest person in the world! Since then, I have been diligently paying off the debts I incurred. I even took an assignment with my job 1200 miles from home for 8 months “just to get away” and break myself from the viscious cycle I was trapped in. Even that, did not stop my “S” from calling from different numbers in between their victims to try and win me back. Each time when I was about to give in again, I would remember this site and hold my ground. I have even had the chance to warn one of their next victims in which initially, I was met with “your just a scorned woman” and you shouldn’t have been so bad or your relationship would have worked out. Funny a few months later, the person I warned messaged me apologizing for believing what was said about me and thanked me for the warning signs. Yesterday was the beginning “to the end” of the last thing that would tie me to my spath. I have moved on and met a wonderful person and we are trying to rebuild my dreams for real this time. Unfortunately, through social networking sites such as Facebook etc(and no matter how you think you have blocked certain individuals) apparently, I have been stalked on their and have been “kept up with” by my ex spath. I was informed by a bank yesterday that a loan I had cosigned for my ex was no longer being paid for and a 24,000 dollar boat I had put up for collateral was facing reposession. Initially, I said come and get it and I guess the bank put pressure back on my spath. And of course, the spath called me and asked why I wasn’t helping pay for the remainder of the loan and they had been generous enough to pay on it for years. They seemed to forget that there was a reason they had to have a cosigner to get the money in the first place. Anyway, I heard a voice in the background feeding words to my ex spath and I said “Oh you have somebody new that you have conned over” in which their reply was, “no I am alone” the converstaion went on for a few minutes and I said, put the other person on the line, I have something to say to them. And almost magical their aloneless went to their next victim being on the phone with me. I utilized every second to recall everything my ex spath did to me and that she was a victim and I was sure the smear campaign against me had her hating me without her even knowing me. Of course, I got the proverbial “Click.” then the texts to my phone from the spath started coming in. Im tired of you trying to ruin my life, I did so much for you! I immediately called my 401k provider and asked to take a loan out so I could just pay the remaining 3 grand and get it over and done with. I called the bank and told them I was going to pay off the loan. I guess my ex spath called the bank and they informed her of what my plans where. She calls again and says…”Why dont you just give me the boat, and ill finish paying off the loan” hahahaaahahaaahaahahhhah OMG! How do these people do this over and over and there isn’t some sort of trend that can be picked up on??? The world is a big place, and with that sort of playground to play on I guess it’s hard to run to the teacher and tattle and effectively give them the proper punishment they deserve. Years later, Im still dealing with the effects of what this person did to me. This is the last thing they can tie me to, and I am so done forever!!!!!