Lovefraud recently received the following e-mail. In it, I felt like I was reading a rerun of my experience.
I was involved with one of those 1 to 4% sociopaths/scammers you’ve outlined in your website.
I lost everything — Long story — you already know it — he was so charming — the love of my life — kind generous, giving, very sexy in and out of bed —
Anyways, it’s been just over 3 yrs (I was only with him 2 + yrs with a 3-month breakup period. Yep I took him back — Call me a LOSER now and hit the delete button — Wait, please don’t.) and I’m living in a mobile home park. Not any of the three properties I had on a golf course. Sold two of them and the third is heading for foreclosure. Put all the money 250K+ into a condo in Mexico and took loans out on my condo that I had paid off while I was selling new homes from ’95 -’05) the year I met him to pay for “our dream” — live in Mexico. I had an offer letter to work for the Four Seasons (selling luxury time shares — the interviews were long and the background check very extensive — I passed) and that would help pay the mortgage on the 3,000 sq. ft. beachfront condo WE bought — none of his money till he made some payments. And my job would hopefully cover his expenses of running his dream job of being a charter captain on a boat that we would lease from the person we bought the condo from — OMG — Thanks for listening. I need a support group to go to but I’d rather just be one-on-one and I’ve been to the therapists — they all (so far) just watch the clock and tell me stuff I already know.
Been extremely depressed — always suffered depression but was able to work and acquire my homes. Then, all of his promises and “deals” shot all my $$ and savings out the window — at a very high speed mind you.
How long does it take to get on with life?
My friends, which are fewer nowadays, say get over it and move on. But, I considered myself to be somewhat “street smart”. And so I continue to beat myself up for the horrific financial things I did and the mess I’m in. I know I need to accept some of the blame — but — he had the plan. I didn’t know his plan and went along with the Love sick person inside of me — finally, my ugh, prince had come — yada, yada, yada.
At the end (two weeks before our big move to start our new “fabulous” lives together I finally confronted him about his 150K in credit card debt. I have no idea why I didn’t run his credit before that close to our move — other than he was always paying for everything, including ALWAYS having to upgrade our flights to first class, etc — I thought he was just spoiling me — as he told me time and again — I deserved to be treated like a lady and he was going to be the one to do that — and claiming to pay off his cards monthly with his construction job.
By the way, yes he allowed me to run his credit one night when he was having one of his daily 6 Bud Lights. I’d gone to bed early — he came home beyond plastered, woke me up from a sound sleep and poured beer all over me — threw me to the ground and threatened to kill me (“Do you want me to kill you now?”) I responded two-fold. “Why are you wasting a beer?” and “No, I’d like to make it to my 43rd b-day.”
I called the police after he got up from holding me by my neck to the ground of our bedroom floor. I called a cab, as I’d already sold my sports car (as it wouldn’t have been too practical in Mexico) stayed in a motel for 2 weeks — next day called some movers and moved all my stuff to a storage — then after two weeks in “hiding” because I was afraid he’d go to my girlfriends homes looking for me. I stayed with a girlfriend until the tenants in my condo found a new place to move.
Sorry for rambling on — to repeat it’s been just over 3 yrs and I can remember everything like it was yesterday.
How long till I regain my life? I’m sure the answer is in ME — maybe a lobotomy? Please advise or let me know that I still have a life that’s worth living. I’ll be 46 in Feb. He’ll be turning 60 next yr.
Insidious tactic
This reader described in living color probably the most insidious tactic in the sociopathic arsenal: They target our dreams.
What better way to draw us in than to promise to make our deepest desires come true? How can we resist someone who wants what we want, and seemingly has the capacity to achieve it?
And how do the sociopaths know what we want? They ask us, and we tell them.
It happens early in the relationship, under the guise of “getting to know each other.” It goes something like this:
“So,” the sociopath asks, with pitch-perfect sincerity, “what do you really want in life?”
“I want a family before I get too old,” we reply. (Or, “I want to live on the beach on a tropical island.” Or, “I want to send my kids to a top college.” Or, “I want to retire while I’m still young enough to enjoy it.”)
“That’s what I want,” the sociopath replies, with a touch of feigned surprise. “We have so much in common. We must be meant for each other.”
Painful betrayal
Dreams explain one reason why the betrayal of the sociopath is so painful. Not only have they manipulated us, deceived us and stolen from us, but they used our own most treasured dreams to do it.
We have lost not only our love, money, time, home, and whatever else they have taken. We’ve lost our dreams. And that hurts.
Then, of course, comes the self-criticism. Why did we believe the sociopath? Why did we wait so long to check them out? Why didn’t we listen to people who warned us? Why didn’t we listen to ourselves?
Why? Because we wanted our dreams to come true.
It’s a brilliant tactic on the part of the predators. They use our dreams to hook us, and then because of our dreams, we don’t want to let go.
Recovery
So how, as this reader asks, do you move on in life? “I’m sure the answer is in me,” she writes.
She is right. A lobotomy is not necessary, but a “pain-ectomy” is. We have real, true, genuine pain because of what the sociopath did. In my opinion, we can’t analyze away the pain, or wish it away. Pain is emotional, and the only way to release it is emotional. We have to allow ourselves to experience it.
The only way out of the pain is through it.
This isn’t pretty. In my case, I spent a lot of time crying. To get out my anger, I imagined the con man’s face in a pillow, and beat it as hard as I could. Because our dreams were damaged, the pain goes deep, and releasing it is a process. We get rid of some, and more rises to take its place.
Eventually, however, we get to the point where we’ve cried all the tears and released all the anger. We get to the point of acceptance. Something awful happened, we had a part in it, but it’s time to move on.
Then we learn something about dreams. Dreams are linked to expectations, and expectations have a down side. Sometimes, if our expectations aren’t met, we feel like we’ve failed. Or, expectations blind us to other opportunities that may come our way. Because the new opportunities do not match our expectations, we don’t even see them.
Maybe we have to give up our original dreams. But that doesn’t mean there will never be dreams again. Perhaps something better, and more fulfilling, will come along, and because we are no longer looking to make a particular dream come true, we’ll see the new opportunity.
Congratulations to you for remaining strong! Sounds like you have really been taking care of business and I am so happy to hear that you will have no more ties left with spath!!!! I guess there is no end to the con they will try to play on people, they think they are so smart and that we will (after everythig that has happened) not see thru their BS! Not!!!! Towanda anetsu!!!!!!!!!!
“Is his sending me a fraction of the money he stole another form of control?
Watchdog”
YEP!!! Mine handed over enough $ for me to buy myself a house in my name, in the belief that it would provide him the leverage to keep trying to call the shots in my life. I did not threaten or coerce him into doing so – he did this of his own free will.
Now, 3 years later, having wasted/blown all of his cash (way more than I ever had), he is dragging me through court to try to take it back, saying I stole it from him and took advantage of him. As Ox Drover said – if it is worth it (in my case it was – he stayed in our home and I had nowhere to live unless I took the $ and bought another house), plan it carefully and from a purely clinical and businesslike/legal angle. If it’s not enough to fight over, walk away and don’t look back – remove the power.
Spath has no job. He posed as a financial advisor and an all around great guy. He was/is none of it. (I met him through friends). I have no leagal recourse as I compromised my accounts. Private Invesigator said he had not worked or paid taxes or even lived in other than hotels for over eight years. That is with the exception of the year I paid for the condo. He has no contact with my son. He is out of our lives other than to ocassionally respond to a text, and recentley he did answer a phone call. He states he will communicate “if I stop yelling” and we change the direction of the communication. I have played his game to get money and keep tabs of where he might be. Yes it was a significant amount of money over 100k stolen and and additonal 70k in dammages. Why would he even bother sending any money….he clearly passesd go with his crime. I got on this blog to gain some of the strength I seem to need to act in a manner that is congruent with what I know to be true. Thanks for feedback again.
Watchdog
Dear Anetsu, sorry to see you are still having run ins with the effects of the P, but glad you are doing well though.
“Give me the boat and I’ll finish paying my loan off” ROTFLMAO ROTFLAMAO Of course if you give her the 24K boat that is YOURS and otherwise paid for, then she will pay off the $3K on HER loan that you unwisely agreed to co-sign for. Notice I said “co-sign” NOT ASSUME primary responsibility for. DUH! How they can figure–let me see if I got this right?
you give her a 24K boat and she will pay off her own $3K debt. or 21$K DOWN
OR
You pay the $3K and keep your own boat.=$3K DOWN
Now let me see—–???_——- which of these two deals is the smartest for you at this point in time? DUH??? Hard to decide isn’t it? Looks like deal #2 makes you lose less, so that seems to be the one I would have taken too.
TAKE HOME LESSON: If a person needs a “co-signer” it is because the bank wouldn’t loan them a thin dime without someone ELSE ASSUMING all the risk. SO NEVER CO SIGN FOR ANYONE FOR ANYTHING. “Co-signing” is just bank talk for “WE ARE LOANING YOU MONEY BUT WE ARE GIVING IT TO THEM.”
Notice I said ALL the risk. The bank is not at risk at ALL because if she doesn’t pay, then you have to, and if you refuse, they have your BOAT! They have NO risk in the deal so why would the bank NOT loan her any amount of money that someone else would put up goods to assure the repayment of. LOL
Again, co-signing loan for psychopath, $3,000, learning a lesson that will last forever—PRICELESS.
Chalk it up to the TUITION for the school of hard knocks, but you got the lesson. Keep on NC! Congratulations!
Dear Watchdog,
“He will communicate if I stop yelling”—OHHHHHH SO TYPICAL PSYCHOPATH, put the “blame” for the lack of communication on you yelling! LOL Well, for $170K I’d be yelling too.
Yea, the “chump change” that he is sending on that “bill” to shut you up for a while is just that.
I’m not sure if you can hire an attorney and sue him for it (you said no legal recourse) so I am assuming NOT. The other is to find a DA that would prosecute him for FRAUD…and my guess on that is you have more chance getting on the US Olympic pole vaulting team for the next Olympics than to find a DA that would or could press fraud charges against him.
That being said–as awful as this sounds–suck it up, give it up, and mark it off as lost and gone, because anything you get from him in “repayment” will come at a stiff price in your own stress and anger. Is it worth it for the chump change that you will get back (and possibly not get ANYTHING at all)
I am sorry that you lost so much, and I have NO doubt that he is laughing behind his hands at what a great guy he is and how smart and what a stingy biatch you are for wanting any of the money back. AFTER ALL THE GOOD WORKS HE DID FOR YOU!
It isn’t fair, it isn’t right and most likely there is NO recourse against this kind of slime bag. (((hugs)))) it is a BIG tuition payment in the school of hard knocks! (((hugs))))
Indeed I feel knocked up. Glad I finally got logged into this sight. I had a much more content day honoring what I knew to be true, but was not living up to it. The kreep owned a little less of my head space. A daily challenge. Peace of heart to all that have hurt so badly from the darkness of the spath.
hi Anetsu – this is henry…like you it has been close to three years no contact for me… Hi Matt..this is a good article – i remember saying ‘ he stole my dreams’ but I was an open book back then– i didnt want a condo on an island just someone to hold my hand and watch the sunset with – together forever kinda thing – didnt have much to begin with but was willing to share all with him..i am careful about telling my dreams to other’s.. beside’s i have found my dream’s – myself – I can watch that sunset with awe and not have to ponder why someone else is not moved by the things i love…
Dear Watchdog,
I swear the rage that I felt was something I did not enjoy at all, but I was sooooo mad and furious, I do understand how people “go postal” and “go off” after they have been “screwed, blued and tattoo’d” by the psychopaths who laugh in our faces! I don’t want to feel like that though, the anger and rage hurt me! So I have been working on it and 99% of the time I’m okay with myself and letting go of that anger and rage, and when it creeps up, I have to acknowledge it and work through it again, but it is getting easier to do. Not sure if it is “practice makes perfect” and I’m getting the hang of it, or if it just gets easier for some other reason…but it does seem to get easier as time goes on.
I’m glad you are here and there is so much good support and good information here that I don’t think you’ll ever run out of reading material that will help you understand them and yourself better. It also takes TIME…and like Henry says, we have to find or re-find our dreams and let go of some of the backsplash!
hmmm isn’t that ‘screwed, BLEWED and tattoo’d’? snort.
Dear Onesy,
Blued? Blewed? Not sure, never thought about it that way! Snort, snarf ROTFLMAO I sort of thought about it like “gun barrel bluing” hence BLUE, but could be BLEWED—LOL Gosh you are easily amused! ha ha