Lovefraud invites you to complete a survey about your experience with a sociopath/psychopath/narcissist in order to help professionals diagnose this disorder properly.
Two days ago, the American Psychiatric Association released a draft of the fifth edition its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM 5). This book is the standard classification of mental disorders used by mental health and other professionals. The revision has been underway for a decade.
A work group of 11 doctors and psychologists focused on the section about personality and personality disorders. They have recommended significant changes to the description of antisocial personality disorder, which is also referred to as sociopathy and psychopathy. In fact, one of the suggestions is to change the name of the personality disorder to “antisocial/psychopathic type.”
The new description of the disorder is much closer to what most of us at Lovefraud have experienced. You can read the description here:
Antisocial/Psychopathic Type
The American Psychiatric Association has invited public comment on the draft of DSM 5, and Lovefraud is taking the doctors up on their invitation. We thought the best way to do it would be to survey our readers, asking you how well the proposed description of antisocial/psychopathic type matches your experience with one (or more) of these individuals.
Please take the survey. This is serious, so be thoughtful and accurate in your responses. It will probably take you about 15 minutes, so please start it when you are sure you have time to complete it.
The survey will be open until March 3, 2010. After that, we will tabulate and analyze the data. We will prepare a report of the findings for the American Psychiatric Association. The results will also be published on Lovefraud.
Go to the survey:
I don’t think he is going to show up to the TRO hearing…he doesn’t even have a lawyer…and the fact he still thinks he can hire a Realtor to sell the house just tells me he has no idea the legalities of it all…
if he doesn’t show and I show all these calls (do the private calls apply? many of them are from “private” but I know they are him…)
Can I still get the extension?? By default maybe??
And I def DID NOT tell him about the TRO – don’t want to give him a head’s up that my son is being reinstated on the insurance and that he can’t sell the house or do any of these other nasty little things he is pulling – let him try! I hope it just helps me with the judge…
Dear MBMM,
Yea, Keep all those records, even the private ones and any voice mails, record them and texts too. Also check out and see what the laws in your state are about tapping phone calls. It is easy and cheap (go to Radio shack) some states both parties need to know it is being tapped, in AR only one person needs to know, so you can tap your own phone and record any calls. BUT check and see what is LEGAL.
NC is difficult when you are going through a divorce, etc. and “the threats” of him not signingn the papers etc, in some states might slow down or prevent a divorce, but in my state if he is summoned, for a divorce, the JUDGE can award the divorce WITHOUT him signing. So if you get a court hearing and he doesn’t come—you automatically get your divorce. He can’t hold you hostage forever. “Keep yer chin up!” You are making progress and he is still just dragging along, but YOU are MOVING ALONG. Big difference in those two things! ((((Hugs)))
Myboys, you said this “and the fact he still thinks he can hire a Realtor to sell the house just tells me he has no idea the legalities of it all””
It seems to me these men have no respect for the courts or the law, in their sick minds its always someone elses fault, so how can they go wrong? they actually believe their lies and think they can win! A rude wakeup call will come to him soon!
Hang in there, you are doing the right thing! Be and remain strong, you do have the upper hand here, dont forget it!
Thanks!
He really does not see he is to blame at all or wrong in any way…two things I did notice – one, he didn’t even ask about his son at all and two, not even a fake “I’m sorry” it was just “you, you, you” blaming me and he said “I’ve lost weight, I look and feel great and I’ve changed 180%” I replied “good for you – now go find someone who does want you” and hung up. I have to start no contact again and prob shouldn’t try to outspath the spath but it did feel good in a way…
can’t wait ’til he gets that TRO – maybe then he’ll see I do mean business….
I have been there done that, heard the exact same blame. Also the you should see me now line, like a little weight loss is suppose to make it all better and make me want him back. The fact is, even with the weight loss, it wasnt done for himself or for me, but for some other young equally as sick whore he was trying to snag and play his sick love game with!
These men are so so out of touch, so incredibly self centered, I can NOT relate!! All we can do is move on as best we can, be strong and stay strong and seek to find our own happiness within ourselves! WE WILL SURVIVE! We, each and everyone of us are stronger then we realise, we all have the power in us to move on and find happiness even if we dont realise it!
myboysmattermost:
When you get the TRO stating that he cannot sell the house, you should ask your attorney if you should file a copy of it with the register of deeds in your county to make certain your S-ex (aka snake) does not try to convey the property away, mortgage it, lien it or any other nefarious little scheme which may strike his fevered little brain. You want to make certain that the county register or whatever it is called in your area is on notice that NOTHING is to be done with respect to the property without YOUR SAY SO and that any inquiries to do anything trigger IMMEDIATE TELEPHONIC followed by WRITTEN NOTICE to you.
As EB will agree, just because the snake is out of state, don’t think for a minute that he or his dupes won’t try something. To quote Ms B, you want to be like a snake, coiled up under the rock. You let him pass by a couple of times and then you strike. Or to put it another way, you want to be the strikor, not the strikee.
THANKS KE and Matt…will do. The house is going into foreclosure. The temp orders state he is supposed to pay it and I have sole possession of it now, but he is not and I cannot afford it on my own and the bank won’t modify with me…I am planning on moving but taking as long as I can to do it…plus the benefit of him not knowing where I am will be nice…I prob have until June or July but I am packing and getting ready now. Renting won’t really be any cheaper but my business is growing – unfortunately layoffs benefit me (resume writer) and I should be able to get on my feet by then.
I am trying to think ahead of him at every turn…he has won several battles but I will win the war, I am sure of it:)
Today is an up day – as EB says, I want to remember what this feels like and know on my down days that I will feel this way again:)
And KE, I am PRAYING he finds some little liar just like him to play his games with:)
myboys, you honey have already won the war in the biggest sense, you have stopped the maddness! You have ended it! Congratulations to you, take pride in this!
I realise you still have work to do and starting over is never easy, but you have made the first, biggest, and most IMPORTANT step to starting a new, better, more peaceful life for you and your family.
Hang in there, you are already working miracles!!!