Lovefraud invites you to complete a survey about your experience with a sociopath/psychopath/narcissist in order to help professionals diagnose this disorder properly.
Two days ago, the American Psychiatric Association released a draft of the fifth edition its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM 5). This book is the standard classification of mental disorders used by mental health and other professionals. The revision has been underway for a decade.
A work group of 11 doctors and psychologists focused on the section about personality and personality disorders. They have recommended significant changes to the description of antisocial personality disorder, which is also referred to as sociopathy and psychopathy. In fact, one of the suggestions is to change the name of the personality disorder to “antisocial/psychopathic type.”
The new description of the disorder is much closer to what most of us at Lovefraud have experienced. You can read the description here:
Antisocial/Psychopathic Type
The American Psychiatric Association has invited public comment on the draft of DSM 5, and Lovefraud is taking the doctors up on their invitation. We thought the best way to do it would be to survey our readers, asking you how well the proposed description of antisocial/psychopathic type matches your experience with one (or more) of these individuals.
Please take the survey. This is serious, so be thoughtful and accurate in your responses. It will probably take you about 15 minutes, so please start it when you are sure you have time to complete it.
The survey will be open until March 3, 2010. After that, we will tabulate and analyze the data. We will prepare a report of the findings for the American Psychiatric Association. The results will also be published on Lovefraud.
Go to the survey:
Ox Drover
“Trussssst me!” Yep, they demand our complete TRUST and they devalue us over and over, and yet, demand again our “trust”—because without our trust, they can’t get close enough to us to hurt us.
Just as a snake can’t get close enough to the mouse to grab him unless the mouse (a) doesn’t know what the snake is (b) doesn’t know there is danger in the snake (c) the snake is so well cammo’d that the mouse doesn’t know he is there.
The lucky mouse who has ESCAPED from a snake’s attack once, though, should be somewhat forearmed, and maybe that mouse from then on will avoid garden hoses as well, but if it LOOKS LIKE A SNAKE, stay away!
We have been fortunate enough to come within the grasp of the predator, but we have escaped with our lives, there are some people who have NOT escaped with their lives and their Psychopath has killed them, or severely injured them physically, killed their children, etc. I know that we feel hurt, injured, etc. but I do thank God that I am ALIVE, that I did ESCAPE with my life, even if somewhat emotionally injured. I will live to recover, I am recovering, and I will beware of anyone who even resembles a psychopath—-anyone who shows a propensity to lie, steal, be overtly rude, etc. Not all those people who lie or even steal or are rude are psychopaths, but I still don’t need or want these people close to me—“close is good enough in horseshoes, and handgrenades” as they say, and I will also add in RED FLAGS and Psychopaths!
Rosie
Yes I will be avoiding anything looking like a garden hose… that made me lol.
I just had another ‘aha’ moment when you said ‘without our trust they can’t get close enough to hurt us’, because towards the end of our relationship I would flat-out say ‘no, I DON’T trust you, and it’s up to you to earn that back’ . I guess earning it back was in the ‘too hard basket’ and easier to go forth and conquer someone who hasn’t been bitten.
I will google Rudyard Kipling, he sounds like a real…character
JaneSmith
EB and Midlife,
You two are some tough, stern ladies.
Me likee…haha!
And you are correct, as usual. They’d probably end up bashing each other on the head with the tools instead of using them to grow gardens for necessary, life sustaining food. How pathetic.
They won’t be able to sponge off each other for money and food because every one of those humanoids would have the same amount of stuff….none.
Whatever. Once we dump em they ain’t our problem any longer. We can go back home and live contented, peaceful, joyful lives without some evil freak interfering with our growth and enlightenment.
Hurrah!
🙂
ErinBrock
Jane:
You put it so kindly….Thanks!
I am used to hearing Bitch…..
Which ofcourse is just fine too!
🙂
Keep in mind….even if they appear to have Nothing on this ‘island’….this is where canabalism will prevail…..
The S will ALWAYS be able to survive off of others (and seemingly have an excuse for killing another)…..dog eat dog…..
I deal with anyone who has hurt/stolen/violated or abused me or my kids in this manner…..it’s either YOU or ME…..Biatch!
My kids say i’m ruthless now….
so very true now…..I’ve spent the majority of my life giveing too much of myself….and getting burned……
So…..baby developed some backbone…..
maybe some day I won’t need to be so ruthless and biatchy….
when that island is built and the one wayers are on it!!!
🙂
ErinBrock
Rosie:
Yep…..trust…
Funny how they project this….
I remember after our kids called the police and the cops made him leave the home…..He would call and just go nuts on the fact he’s NEVER inhis life heard of someones kids calling the police on their father…..(he doesn’t get out much!)
He went on and on for months and months about this one….NOT being able to trust the kids….and it was up to the kids to develope HIS trust back….WTF??? YOU were the one abusing them…..????
THen…..he started on me….It morphed into my issue….I didn’t stop the kids from calling the police…..WE called the police…
WE, we, we……weeeeeeeeeeeeee
Yeah, whatever…..at that point I had taken off the rose glasses and put on the decoder glasses….it was clear how warped he was….
Trust is a two way street…..
once the car is dented….it’s dented! Period……even if it gets fixed and a new paint job…..eventually the new paint will CHIP!
JaneSmith
EB,
I don’t think you’re biatchy and ruthless. Total opposite as proven by your many concerned and supportive responses to hurting people.
What I’ve ascertained by your words and the tone is that you’re super strong, reselient, caring, loving, determined, and unswerving in your morals, values, principles and convictions.
That ain’t bad qualities to possess. Those be some AWESOME qualities to posses, if I may say so.
Let the fools and losers call you what they will. They don’t know squat in their deluded, ego obsessed, little bitty pea brains.
You win, they lose. Game over.
🙂
JaneSmith
EB,
Shoot, I sincerely hope you know I wasn’t including your beautiful children in with the group of fools and losers. Ack! I would never, ever say such a horrible thing!
I was referring to psychopaths and the garden variety mix of creeps, weirdos, and abject losers who strive to tear you down with cruel and vicious words. Not what your babies say to you. Never!
Just wanted to clear that up. Do not wish for any confict or misunderstanding between me and any of the LF tribe members.
ErinBrock
Game over!
Thanks Jane…..your a love!!
ErinBrock
Hahah….LOL….
I knew exactly what you meant…..
Although….from time to time….I do question one of my kids….
🙁
Ox Drover
Dear EB,
I am also a b1atch, and it is **MS** B1ATCH to them!