Editor’s note: This article was submitted by Steve Becker, LCSW, CH.T, who has a private psychotherapy, hypnotherapy, and clinical consulting practice in New Jersey, USA. For more information, visit his website, powercommunicating.com.
It is not unusual in my clinical experience to see, sometimes, some quite chilling sociopathic activity from my “borderline personality-disordered” clients. When someone has a “borderline personality,” it’s quite likely, among other things, that he or she will present with a history of emotional instability; a pattern of chaotic interpersonal relationships; and poor coping skills under stress, reflected in self-destructive/ destructive acting-out and a tendency to suicidal behaving.
These unstable trends are not explained by a core psychotic orientation, although individuals with borderline personality can sometimes lapse into psychotic thinking when feeling hurt and rejected enough. Borderline personalities tend to see others in “black and white,” as either all-good or all-bad; they struggle to retain more flexible, ambivalent views of others. Others are either idealized, or devalued; these swings of perceptions can be sudden, volatile, and complete.
Perceptions and/or experiences of abandonment often elicit the borderline’s dysfunctional responses and psychological deterioration. In his or her more stable state, the borderline personality can sometimes function well and seem to be well-adjusted. But more intimate involvement with him or her, over time, will expose an underlying, poorly disturbed sense of self and incapacity for mature relating.
A question I’ve found myself considering is: When the borderline personality is acting, and looking, like a sociopath, is it the case that he or she, in these states, effectively is a sociopath?
It should be noted that behaviors per se are never sociopathic, only the individuals perpetrating them. Sociopathy is a mentality from which antisocial, exploitative behaviors gestate and emanate with a destructive, historical chronicity. But one can infer the presence of the sociopathic mentality from a telling pattern of behaviors.
Clearly there are fundamental differences between borderline personalities and sociopaths, differences which I appreciate. At the same time, when the borderline personality’s rage or desperation is evoked, one sees (and not rarely) responses that can closely correspond to the sociopath’s calculating, destructive mentality.
Once inside this mentality, I’m suggesting that borderline personality-disordered individuals can lapse into a kind of transient sociopathy. Commonly, victims of the “borderline’s” aberrant, vicious behaviors will sometimes react along the lines of, “What is wrong with you? Are you some freaking psychopath?” They will say this from the experience of someone who really has just been exploited as if by a psychopath.
Because this isn’t the borderline personality’s default mentality (it is the sociopath’s), several psychological phenomena must occur, I think, to enable his temporary descent into sociopathy. He or she must regress in some way; dissociate in some fashion; and experience a form of self-fragmentation, for instance in response to a perceived threat—say, of abandonment.
These preconditions, I suggest, seed the borderline personality’s collapse into the primitive, altered states of self that can explain, among other phenomena, his or her chilling (and necessary) suspension of empathy. This gross suspension of empathy supports his or her “evening the score” against the “victimizer” with the sociopath’s remorseless sense of entitlement.
Case example
I worked not long ago with a male, 24, who slit his ex-girlfriend’s tires in the parking lot of the restaurant in which she tended bar. He’d suspected her of cheating with her manager. Notably, they were still together at the time of his act. Although his girlfriend surmised his guilt, he wouldn’t admit it, suggesting foolishly that the perpetrator was probably the manager. While his suspicions of her infidelity had some basis, the important point is that they activated an inner-self crisis and desperation characteristic of borderline personality structures.
Specifically, he feared losing her—a prospect so traumatic that rage was summoned to help mobilize his fragmenting self. His rage was experienced as cold, not volatile. He regressed into paranoia, as one who had been betrayed and, cruelly, left helpless. His failure to soberly examine the circumstances and his inflammatory reactions represented a form of mild dissociation/detachment from reality that enabled the paranoid experience, and processing, of his fear; his detachment (and regression) enabled him to formulate and execute his revenge with his empathy (and guilt) conveniently iced. In other words, he could perpetrate his vengeance with the detached calm of someone who has experienced a trauma, as in a state of depersonalization.
Upon emerging from this state, it would be as if emerging from a sort of dream, or seizure. The rationalization would kick in: what I do in those states really isn’t me, so I don’t really have to take full responsibility for it later on. It’s as if the borderline individual surfaces from his dip into sociopathy once again a borderline (and no longer a sociopath).
Motives that drive patterns of problematic behaviors frequently illuminate and distinguish the personality disorders. In this case, what seems to have driven my client was his crumbling sense of self in the form of an inarticulate terror of being abandoned. For this reason (among others), I can confidently say that he wasn’t a sociopath. But when he was in that regressed, dissociated, fragmented state—for as long as it lasted—I suggest he was.
Disgusted Daughter:
“My brother and I have come to the conclusion that eventually, we will probably have to have her committed.”
Please let me know if you figure out a way to speed up this process.
I also am dealing with someone who I would like to have committed.
Chop Chop!!! No time to waste!!!
Dear Disgusted daughter,
Welcome to LoveFraud, sorry you have had to endure a lifetime of dealing with a mother like this….most of us here have had at leeast one relationship with a personality disordered person (and whether it is Psychopath, BPD or whatever the name is) they are all TOXIC.
Many of us have dealt with several family members who are personality disordered or massively dysfunctional at the very least. I am an only child and I am NO CONTACT with my own “egg donor”–I no longer consider her a “mother” as I think that title must be EARNED! My egg donor has allied herself with my psychopathic son who tried to kill me, and was allied with my Psychopathic X-DIL who tried to kill her husband, my other son! However, since my X-DIL stole $24,000 from my egg donor as well as tried to kill her husband, when she went to jail my egg donor decided she wasn’t so “nice” after all.
My egg donor actually isn’t personality disordered herself, but is a TOXIC enabler, enabling the psychopaths in our family (several) to not have the consequences of their actions. She is even willing to severely punish me and my “good” son for not participating in enabling my psychopathic son who right now, sits in prison for MURDER he committed in 1991. She is doing everything she can to get him out on parole, and we are doing everything we can to KEEP HIM IN PRISON, since even from his prison cell, he tried to have me killed, and probably my egg donor as well (though she denies this, we have proof) for an inheritence. “If it is yours, they think they deserve it” (quoting Sabrina on this blog).
As long as your mother, unfortunately, knows which day of the week it is, who the president is, etc, even though her judgment and actions are “crazy” and “mean,” will not be “committable” —- it is a shame, too, that they aren’t as they are very damaging. My egg donor is not working with ANY good judgment or sound thinking, but it is not possible to commit her, so I have no choice but to remain no contact for my own sanity. Good luck to you! And, again, welcome to LF.
I find this whole concept of transient Sociopathy to be very unsettling.
There’s little way of knowing what will send a Histrionic, Borderline or Narcissist into a state which will cause him/her to behave like a Sociopath. In my associations with cluster B personalities, the one thing that has struck me about instances of their awful behavior has been the shocking unexpectedness of their lunacy. After a few years of observing their adult behavior, one could readily discern that they were badly behaved, but never be certain when, why or how they would act out. Oh sure, in retrospect you might conclude that s/he was jealous, drunk/stoned, angry or whatever, but there was no PREDICTING what would set them off.
Contrast that with people who’ve done really hard, unpleasant things because it was expected of them. These people are absolutely reliable. I can predict with a great degree of certainty what they will do in any given circumstance.
About half the men I know have killed people in combat, in some cases more than a few people. As far back as records exist, men in our family have served in the military. There are no records existing of any of these military men behaving as sociopaths, unless you hold their combat records against them. They have been exceptional fathers, husbands and contributing members of society. (The one con-artist, gambler, ne’er-do-well in the family never served.)
Anyway, I know when these “ruthless” veterans will strike again. One of them had a pistol drawn on him by a criminal attempting to flee the scene of a murder. (Entire incident captured by security camera) He shot the criminal dead within a split second, and privately states with conviction that he feels no remorse. Some might state that this predictable violence makes these men horribly flawed. I disagree. I find it a lot easier to sleep at night, knowing these men never sleep quite as soundly as the rest of us.
When we say that a histrionic, narcissist or borderline ONLY SOMETIMES acts like a sociopath, I find that to be cold comfort. With them, I never know when they’re in sociopath mode or “good little nut-job” mode, and I never know what’s going to serve as the tipping point that sets them off. It may be comforting for a mental health professional to know that these people are only sometimes sociopathic, but knowing this only serves to make me MORE wary.
Hostility as a response to stress is the way of the histrionic/borderline/narcissist, who may become a “temporary sociopath” at the drop of a hat. Since “stress happens”, and histrionics, borderlines and narcissists seem to get stressed out over just about everything life throws their way, I don’t see that they’re much safer to be around than 24/7 sociopaths.
Contrast that one more time with a so-called “violent” person who exercises self-control:
A martial artist suffered an infection which necessitated minor surgery. The mortified tissue had to be removed, while the healthy tissue needed to be saved. The outcome would be better if no anesthesia was used. The martial artist stated that she was willing to undergo the procedure without anesthesia if no restraints were used, and she did not have to watch him cut. Since the emergency room staff knew she was capable of considerable mayhem, three stout orderlies surrounded her while the physician worked. She didn’t twitch once, and thanked the attending nurses and physician several times during and after the procedure. She did not like the procedure, and although she remained courteous, her blood pressure stayed dangerously high for a good half hour after they were done.
The staff commented afterwards that they fully expected the martial artist to hurt someone at some stage of treatment.
This fear of people capable of violence is common, and shows how poorly both sociopathy and sanity are understood. People who are trained to apply violence do not become hostile simply because they are under a bit of stress. They think things through. As a culture, we often wring our hands over the danger we imagine people capable of violence pose, without understanding that “capable of” is not the same as “predisposed to”.
Give me a predictably violent person over an unstable cluster B any day. Regardless of training, physical strength, age or gender, cluster Bs are predisposed to harm others.
Dear Elizabeth,
TOWANDA!!!! AND RIGHT ON! A very well phrased and thoguht out post! I itotally agree.
GoodGrief: Hi. Please scroll up about 5 posts and read something southernman429 wrote 2 months ago. I’ve gone through what you are going through… and when I saw his post I thought “it sounds like us”.
This article defines my mother. She is a BPD, but during her dissociative rages and subsequent fugue states, I would easily define her behavior as sociopathic–cold, manipulative, homicidal, and hell-bent on emotionally, psychologically, or physically annihilating the perceived threat or victimizer. When she would emerge, she would behave as if she had done nothing out of the ordinary while I would be in the throes of PTSD. I haven’t actually seen her in almost 2 years. I have done 4 years of intense psychotherapy (my father actually *is* a sociopath–killing kittens for fun and everything!), and hearing her voice practically triggers a panic attack. I have no desire to have a relationship with her. What surprises me is that 2 years can pass with no contact, and she will call out of the blue to request a visit. It blows my mind. In her mind, I am merely an extension of her. I do not exist as a separate entity or person with a will and mind of my own. I only exist to meet her needs. So, she is shocked when I tell her that there is no context for a visit when we don’t even have a relationship characterized by regular telephone conversation. In her mind, she thinks, “I want to visit. It meets my needs. I am entitled to that. She is keeping me from getting what I want.” And, the seething and rage begin because I say NO. From that perspective, the Borderline and Sociopath are the same–they both only do what meets their needs and their needs alone. It doesn’t really matter what the goal is, does it? If the sociopath does it to win, and the BP does it for connection or to avoid abandonment, they are still only engaging in this highly harmful and emotionally, psychologically, and spiritually exsanguinous “relationship” to meet their own needs at the expense the other person’s. Is it possible to have a truly healthy relationship with a person who views others through that filter (i.e. You only exist to meet my needs)? No. It is not. In the end, sociopath or BP, you will end up completely obliterated because they are vampiric. Just say NO, and walk away. If you can’t, then go get help now so that you can.
Dear Jaoconnor,
Welcome to LF! Great points in your post above….and thanks for bringing up this article again. I read it as if it was a new article and enjoyed rereading the comments as well.
Is there a way you can block her from contacting you at all? I am also NC with my egg donor as well…I’m actually not sure of what her diagnosis is but she is TOXIC for sure.
Thanks for your post. Good points! God bless.
This article really scares me. I never read it before. When my spath left he screamed at me that I was a textbook case of borderline personality disorder. Sometimes I get afraid that he is right.
I always thought though that I was just so emotionally traumatized by being in a relationship with a married man that it made my emotions all over the place, like when he was f*****g with me and my mind all the time. I’m just really freaked out right now.
Lizzy,
If you think that you have aspects of BPD google it and find out about what in yourself leads you to believe that. People who have been abused sometimes have aspects of BPD in their dysfunctional lives due to the abuse. But like with PPD there are “levels” of BPD…and even if there are aspects of BPD in your personality it is not the same as being a PPD, unlike with PPD there are things that can help you change your attitudes and behavior. Therapy is one of them. Knowledge is another one. Remember, Knowledge=power.
I see some “black and white thinking” in some of your posts, but that is NOT A CRIME. LOL So quit “freaking out” and start thinking in shades of GRAY. I tended to be into “black and white” thinking when I was younger, it’s a thing you can unlearn and it will make your life much easier and better.
elizabeth
I completely agree it’s “freaking out” material.
The thing is, when you look at all the other relationships you have, I bet you’ll see that they were normal, and you behaved normal. It was your relationship with your spath that made you act wacky, think wacky. Right?
That’s why you’re here.
Me too.