What do you call someone you’ve been describing alternately as a narcissist and sociopath? Someone for whom neither diagnosis alone quite suffices as a complete description of the individual, but rather in whom both disorders seem as if wrapped up in one menacing individual?
Pardoning my grandiosity for daring to expand the already crowded psychiatric nomeclature, I propose to call these hybrid personalities“narcissiopaths.”
While I don’t expect the DSM folks to take me very seriously (or anyone else for that matter), I’m thinking (unfacetiously) that there’s a case to be made here.
The narcissiopath, as I envision him (using “him” for convenience’s sake) will meet many of the essential criteria for both narcissistic and sociopathic personality. The closest extant clinical description of this disordered individual that comes to mind is the confusing term “maligant narcissist.”
Now personally, I find the term “malignant narcissist” wanting: for instance, precisely at what point does a narcissist turn “malignant?” And doesn’t this imply the concept of non-malignant narcissists who, by definition, must be “benign?” (I’m not so sure their partners would attest to their harmlessness?)
My concept, the narcissiopath, suggests very directly the personality fusion of narcissism and sociopathy in this particular personality. The narcissiopath is the individual who effectively conflates narcissism and sociopathy.
Let me briefly review these separate personalities—the narcissist and sociopath—in their more classical presentations. The narcissist is fundamentally a recognition-craver, a reassurance-craver, a convenience-craver, and an inordinate craver and demander of attention, catering and special status. He is in many respects insatiably needy emotionally.
At root, the narcissist is an overly entitled personality. He feels entitled to be accomodated on a pretty much continual basis. This begs the question, on what basis does he accord himself this right—to expect, that is, the continual accomodation of his needs and desires? The answer is, on the basis of his sense of himself as “special,” and his expectation that others—indeed, the world—will also recognize him as special.
Psychologically, a compensatory process often occurs with the narcissist. His “sensed” and “imposed” specialness is often a compensation for underlying and threatening self-vulnerability; and compensation for doubts about his power, worth and attractiveness—doubts that he is too immature to face squarely and maturely.
Although exploitation is not typically the narcissist’s primary motive, we recognize his capacity to be manipulative, cruel, deceptive and abusive; yet his darker machinations are usually secondary to his demanding, and sometimes desperate, pursuit of others’ attention and cooperation.
The narcissist is imfamously inept at managing his disappointment. He feels that he should never be disappointed, that others owe him protection from disappointment. When disappointed, he will find someone to blame, and will quickly de-idealize and devalue his disappointer.
Devaluing his disappointer now enables him to abuse her or him with more righteous indignation and less guilt.
For the sociopath, this is all much easier. Unlike the narcissist, he doesn’t have to perform mental gymnastics to subdue his guilt in order to exploit others with an unburdened conscience. The sociopath has no guilt to manage.
But the sociopath’s dead conscience isn’t per se what makes him sociopathic. Many people have weak consciences who aren’t sociopaths. It is his dead conscience in conjunction with his orientation to exploit that gets to the heart (really, heartlessness) of the sociopath.
The sociopath is variously a manipulator, liar, deceiver and violator of others; and he is these things less to regulate his unstable self-esteem than, more often than not, to enjoy himself, amuse himself, entertain himself, and take what he feels like taking in a way he finds optimally satisfying.
The sociopath, as I have discussed previously, is an audacious exploiter. His lack of shame supports his imperturbability, which enhances the experience of his audacity. The sociopath leaves one shaking one’s head at his nerve, his gall. One imagines that to venture the deception and outrages the sociopath pursues with his famous, blithe composure, he must possess a chilling callousness and coldness beneath what may otherwise be his veneer of “normality.” One imagines correctly.
Now sometimes we find ourselves dealing, as I’ve suggested, with individuals who seem, at once, to be both narcissist and sociopath, as if straddling, or embodying both disorders.
These are the individuals I’m proposing to call narcissiopaths.
For a good celebrity example of this, consider O.J. Simpson. Simpson, as his story evolved, was someone you found yourself confusingly calling a narcissistic personality disorder (probably correctly) in one conversation, and in the very next, a sociopath (probably correctly).
You found yourself vacillating between the two diagnoses because he seemed to fulfill important criteria of both. There was O.J. the narcissist: publicly charming, charismatic, disarmingly engaging and seductively likeable while privately, behind closed doors, he was tyrannizing Nicole Brown whenever he felt his “omnipotent control” threatened.
Simpson came to epitomize the indulged athlete: catered to all his life for his special athletic gifts, somewhere along the line he came to believe, with ultimately violent conviction, in his right to control and be heeded, not defied.
Simpson was all about “looking good,” about public show; in Nicole Brown he’d found a woman—a “trophy wife—”who could “reflect well” on him publicly, and on his “greatness.” She was also, tragically, the “perfect” choice to engage his narcissistic compulsion to alternately idealize, and then devalue, her; that is, to idealize the perfect, and then devalue the perfectly dirty, sex object.
In other words, in choosing her, Simpson chose well for his narcissism.
In the end, Simpson was as charming, ingratiating, and as shallow and superficial as so many narcissists (and all sociopaths) are.
But he was more than that. He was also callous, and brutally violent. He descended upon Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman like the knife-wielding devil he was, nearly carving Brown’s head off and massacring Goldman.
And then”¦he lied.
He maintained his innocence with outrageous brazenness, determined to win the next stage of yet another game. And where was the remorse? There was none; just his arrogant, insulting contempt.
Simpson had executed a miraculous performance. He had escaped from double-murder and the incontrovertible evidence of his guilt as improbably, as impossibly, as he’d so often escaped (brilliantly) opposing defenses and game-plans geared to stop him.
Finally, although I’d say that Simpson probably tilts, on balance, more to a narcissistic personality structure than not, he also possesses many of the most dangerous and essential diagnostic features of the sociopath. He seems, in other words, to be not entirely one or the other, but both narcissist and sociopath all in one.
I intend to flesh out the concept of the narcissiopath in future posts. And I look forward, as always, to your feedback.
(This article is copyrighted © 2009 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
Oxy:
“I got out of denial and saw what he REALLY IS, what he has been since at least puberty, and what he will be forever. Of course that then only made him try to kill me.
As soon as I went no contact with my P daughter, (the one with the angelic face that can “do tears” at a seconds notice), she went to her psychopathic father and conspired against me. Funny thing is, this action has purged 25 years of his hidden murders. But like the tidal wave in Phuket, how it washes out in the end is anyones guess.
Dear Witsend,
Honey, you did not “stress” your child by holding him too much as a colicky baby! His probolems are NOT anything that you did!!!!!!!! Write that 500 times and turn it in by Monday or you get BOINKED! LOL
I too wondered “what did I do wrong?” or “What magic phrase or thing could I do to save my son from himself?” THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO. You can “lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink!” That is true with our kids too. If they are DETERMINED to have their way then they are FREE TO DO SO….we cannot stop them, and if they are “immune” to the consequences, even the consequences of going to prison they can do that one too.
Even after my P son’s first 2 years (of a 5 yr sentence) in prison he was right back in within 5 months! AS SOON AS he got out, he had RE-ENTERED crime as a way of life. He was conning from the get go even before he got out of the joint.
I had arranged for him to come home, and once in a while they DO tell the truth…he came home for a confrontational visit ONLY–and sneared at me that “the REASON I didn’t come home (as if that would punish me!) was because I KNEW if I got into trouble with the law you would turn me in.”
I looked at him and said “Son, you GOT THAT CHIT RIGHT!” I NEVER again saw him as a free man, the only other times I saw him after that were in prison visits after he was arrested for the murder. I am grateful to God that he chose NOT to come home, because I really believe if he had come back then, he would have killed me. I found out later that as SOON as he got out of prison and went to live with my husband’s niece (he convinced her he was not a “bad boy” that the ONLY problem he had was his meanie old mommie was just so abusive to him, what he reallty needed was loving trust!) PUKE!!! she gave him “loving trust” and look what it got her, so WHO does she get mad at? Why ME of course! LOL
He has been given MANY “second chances” by lots of people and he has BETRAYED EVERY ONE OF THEM! Martha Stout who wrote “The Sociopath next Door” says a “rule of threes” and that if someone lies to you 3 times, mark them off. I HAVE THE RULE OF ONES—-the first time, the ONLY time someone (children excepted) lie to you, MARK THEM OFF. I have given many people who lied to me a “second chance” and never have I ever been rewarded with real repentence, they have ALWAYS lied to me again. (children excepted) So, the RULE of ONE is my model. I probably will “mark off” some people who are NOT psychopaths, but I am much more likely to mark off ALL the psychopaths fairly early, so I am willing to make the trade off. that is why I am NC with my egg donor.
Blueskies:
I just saw “miss Tilly fantastico’, thankyou for the validation, I really need it right now.
Oxy,
I don’t believe that I stressed my baby by holding him to much…I guess I would be more inclined to believe that I wasn’t able to “pacify”him by holding him when he was colicky because I was stressed.
I tend to go back and relive his childhood in my mind. Maybe this still stems from the age old debate. Nurture or nature?
I am also soul searching my relationship with his father.
His father was at one point in time (what I call) a non functioning alcoholic, (no longer able to hold down a job, or deal with responsibilitys in daily life) before he finally went into recovery.
I am thinking that it is possible many of my husbands issues & behaviors that I thought of as being alcoholic in nature might be more than that.
Being that I was raised in an alcoholic home and was expected to “overlook” or excuse alchoholic behavior of my fathers by my mother….Maybe I extended this into my adult relationships as well.
I am looking into my being an adult child of an alcoholic in a different light.
Oxy
You can still boink me with the skillet as many times I need it!
Dear Witsend,
How about if I hug you instead? ((((hug)))))
I put on another thread some studies I was reading today (still not “totally proven”) about there being some similar traits in the severe alcoholic’s DNA markers and the P’s. It is not uncommon for a P to also be an addict or an alcoholic as well. being one doesn’t mean you can’t be the other as well….my son’s P-traits didn’t show up in flaming color until puberty—like presto-change-o over night!
It is also possible that if you were raised in an “alocholic” home that one or both of your parents might also have been high in P-traits as well if it was pretty abusive/enabling.
Even though there was no alcohol in my immediate family (grandparents nor egg donor drank, or step dad, but GG-father was a violent mean drunk, and egg donor’s brother was definitely a MEAN DRUNK…looking back now, I think he was probably also bi-polar, alcoholic AND psychopathic. How about that for a triple whammy???!!! I do know that Uncle monster was hard core from at least age 7, defiant, sneaky, and mean, until the month before he died, he had a stroke so he was no longer dangerous.
I see the effects of his abuse on his 3 kids to this day and the oldest is 56—none are alcoholics but have suffered relationship and other problems their entire lives, anxiety, etc. considering what they went through (terrible abuse) they did pretty well to not have been locked up either crazy or criminal.
Witsend, your drama with your son will eventually “play itself out” one way or another as time passes….either your son will “straighten up his act” or he won’t and frankly, my take is that it doesn’t matter much what you do, he is his “own man” making his own decisions now for better or worse, the main thing I am concerned with is YOU and your safety and your pain…Tilly’s been there, and others here on this site too with kids, and everyone with someone(s) close to themor that they loved. It’s a “tough row to hoe” and all any of us can do is the best we can do and I know you are doing that! (((hugs)))) and my prayers always!
Whoops~ I wasn’t finished. He can’t stop “giving” to other women. That is how he hooked me. I don’t have solid prrof of untaithfulness, but I do believe he has been. He swears he hadn’t but I don’t believe him. He lies so much that I don’t know what to believe anymore. it’s all just a big mind-f—! And oxy you are right, if you have contact with them is only keeps you a wounded person. I hope and pray that something good comes out of this whole situation. He now wants us to get counseling. What a joke. Okay, I gotta go and try and sleep again. Love you guys and gals, 22
witsend:
My dad is an alcoholic too, (the one that broke my mothers neck in front of me ,when i was five). I’ve read the books on “adult child of an alcoholic” but they didn’t do it for me. Maybe i missed something?
Tilly,
My family, except for Uncle Monster, waas not an alcoholic one or at least they were DRY drunks if anyting. My GF did drink and was pretty raucous in his early days but quit drinking when my egg donor was born, but Uncle Monoster was 7 by then. Uncle monster was drinking like a fish by age 15 but was already a P before that as at age 7 he started smothering his baby sister.
The ENABLING/CO-DEPENDENT, whatever you want to call it, from his mother, who had learned it in her own alcoholic father’s house of “keep the peace” cover up the bad deeds of the drinker or bad by etc…was passed on to my egg donor, who though she was the VICTIM of her monster brother, kept it secret until myh GF finallycaught him and put a stop to the abuse, but the ROLE of my GM continued throughout his life, covering up, pretending nothing was wrong, keeping the family secrets even when she KNEW FOR A FACT he was abusing his wife and kids—don’t upset the bad guy by confronting him about his bad behavior.
If someone were to confront the bad guy, THE WHISTLE BLOWER GOT POUNDED ON….for betraying the family…not the bad guy who did the bad thing. GO FIGURE.
So in many ways, I DID grow up in a family of alcoholics who kept the secrets—even from me until I was grown. I had no idea uncle monster was what he was.
I have seen and read several books about Co-dependents and enablers and fixers, and they DO resonate with me. I tried to think that they didn’t (denial) because my egg donor and my step father didn’t “drink”—-it isn’t just about alcohol or drugs (though that is what it is blamed on) “Daddy would be nice if he didn’t drink” is a FABLE because daddy is a moonster who only has the balls to BE A MONSTER when he gets a snoot full—-others are monsters sober OR DRUNK, but the bottom line is that NOTHING IS TO BLAME except the person being a monster.
I put up with all kinds of bad behavior that I probably wouldn’t have tolerated if they HAD BEEN DRUNK….Our family did have two NO CLAUSES: 1) no adultery was allowed (except for uncle Monster) and 2) NO violence, except against ME for “just cause” –as determined by my egg donor—and of course, the exception was Uncle Monster, he was allowed to use violence (horrible violence physical and emotional) on his wife and kids.
My GM was the salve for everyone’s wounds. Her role was to “let’s all play nice and pretend it didn’t happen.”
My egg donnor assumed this role—with a vengence—when my GM died, though she had been entirely different prior to my GMs death, but someone had to FILL that role or the family would have “disintergrated” and keeping the FAMILY STATUS QUO is the thing that MUST BE MAINTAINED. Who the heck knows what would happen if everyone got “healthy?” LOL The anxiety that is felt when even one member leaves the familyh or dies upsets the BALAANCE of the family which has to be maintained for everyone nto feel “secure” (relatively sure of how things will go—even if the security is knowing that Uncle monster will drink and beat his wife.)
As my egg donor started getting more feeble and saw the end of her life approaching a couple of years ago she started really pushing me and grooming me to take over the role of FAMILY PEACEMAKER AT ANY COST, and though she had also never “approved of” or liked my DIL P, she started insisting that I IGNORE outrageous behavior on her part (like not paying the bills, getting into debt etc.) and my egg donor started subsidizing my son and his spend thrift wife with money to bail them out. If I objected to her doing this, she became quite angry. She also started requiring that I be her immediately available care giver, though she did not really require that much “care” but she wanted it available immediately upon her demand, rather than when it was convenient for me. When I refused to give in, that was when I was D & D’d and replaced by the DIL and the Trojan Horse psychopath. When she had them jummping to her commands she no longer needed me so I became the “outcast” of the family because I was no longer playing my ASSIGNED ROLE.
Of course when the DIL and the TH-P went to jail for trying to kill my son C, the family dynamics changed again, and she saught me out as her caregiver again, totally agast that the previous caregivers had betrayed her because “they were always so respectful of me.” (whereas I had NOT been so “respectful”–giving in to her every wish!) LOL
Her rose as “family bad boy rescuer” continues on with her denial of my P son’s part in the attempted murder, and so she sends him money to try to rescue him from me and his brother, and sits as a martyar because her only child (me) and her only free world grandson won'[t have anything to do with her. Her adopted grandson isn’t a grandson because he “isn’t blood.” (Yet he has done more for her than the other two ever did! since he worked here on the farm and had more time available.)
Lookiing at family-role theory has given me some insight into the way people live out the “scripts” of their lives rather than writing their lives “as they go.”
Tilly,
I guess what I am getting at is that I thought that I had really come to terms with the alcoholics that I have loved in my life.
My father was verbally abusive and could be a mean drunk. But I don’t think he was an S/P/N. Or any other type of personality disorder. He was just a drunk However when you are raised with an alcoholic, as you know, you are taught to overlook and hide certain “family secrets”. At least that is how I was raised. To the outside world, we looked pretty good. Nice Catholic family, blah, blah. Only my parents closest friends knew he had a drinking problem. He held the same job for over 40 years. As a matter of fact his being able to “function” in the real world was his biggest problem. Because he NEVER even would admit he was an alcoholic. He said if he had a drinking problem for over 50 years he would be out on the streets, and homeless. Not an upstanding citizen, like he thought of himself. His body didn’t agree with that statement though. Shortly before he died (about a year) he started to have seizures. The first time, he was rushed to the hospital.
My mother led me to believe they were epileptic seizures. Later when my father became pretty sick and was hospitalized again, I went to Chicago to visit him. I MET with his family doctor and the doctor told me he was having alcohol induced seizures. He had consumed alcohol for so many years that his brain reacted when there was not enough alcohol in his body. I had never heard of anyone having seizures such as this.
I think when you live with denial all your life as a child it is easy to understand how as an adult you do look at the world through “rose colored glasses”.
I was determined to not be alcoholic. But of course I did the next best thing. Both of my husbands were alcoholics. I went through much counseling/therapy after my husband commited suicide. And I also delt with many of my childhood issues.
The one thing that I learned to do well as a kid and in my marriages with alcoholics is to “tip toe on egg shells”.
I haven’t done this for 12 years, since my husband died.
I find myself doing this AGAIN with my son.
It is bringing up all that dread again. The same way you feel when you are waiting for the other shoe to fall, as when living with a drunk.
I feel like I have come full circle. In a bad way. Right back where I started. That dread in the pit of your stomach. The anxiety, trying to not set him off, avoiding the conflict, ALL of that same crap. Different set of circumstances. But my reaction of how I am currently dealing is the same….Ugh…