What do you call someone you’ve been describing alternately as a narcissist and sociopath? Someone for whom neither diagnosis alone quite suffices as a complete description of the individual, but rather in whom both disorders seem as if wrapped up in one menacing individual?
Pardoning my grandiosity for daring to expand the already crowded psychiatric nomeclature, I propose to call these hybrid personalities“narcissiopaths.”
While I don’t expect the DSM folks to take me very seriously (or anyone else for that matter), I’m thinking (unfacetiously) that there’s a case to be made here.
The narcissiopath, as I envision him (using “him” for convenience’s sake) will meet many of the essential criteria for both narcissistic and sociopathic personality. The closest extant clinical description of this disordered individual that comes to mind is the confusing term “maligant narcissist.”
Now personally, I find the term “malignant narcissist” wanting: for instance, precisely at what point does a narcissist turn “malignant?” And doesn’t this imply the concept of non-malignant narcissists who, by definition, must be “benign?” (I’m not so sure their partners would attest to their harmlessness?)
My concept, the narcissiopath, suggests very directly the personality fusion of narcissism and sociopathy in this particular personality. The narcissiopath is the individual who effectively conflates narcissism and sociopathy.
Let me briefly review these separate personalities—the narcissist and sociopath—in their more classical presentations. The narcissist is fundamentally a recognition-craver, a reassurance-craver, a convenience-craver, and an inordinate craver and demander of attention, catering and special status. He is in many respects insatiably needy emotionally.
At root, the narcissist is an overly entitled personality. He feels entitled to be accomodated on a pretty much continual basis. This begs the question, on what basis does he accord himself this right—to expect, that is, the continual accomodation of his needs and desires? The answer is, on the basis of his sense of himself as “special,” and his expectation that others—indeed, the world—will also recognize him as special.
Psychologically, a compensatory process often occurs with the narcissist. His “sensed” and “imposed” specialness is often a compensation for underlying and threatening self-vulnerability; and compensation for doubts about his power, worth and attractiveness—doubts that he is too immature to face squarely and maturely.
Although exploitation is not typically the narcissist’s primary motive, we recognize his capacity to be manipulative, cruel, deceptive and abusive; yet his darker machinations are usually secondary to his demanding, and sometimes desperate, pursuit of others’ attention and cooperation.
The narcissist is imfamously inept at managing his disappointment. He feels that he should never be disappointed, that others owe him protection from disappointment. When disappointed, he will find someone to blame, and will quickly de-idealize and devalue his disappointer.
Devaluing his disappointer now enables him to abuse her or him with more righteous indignation and less guilt.
For the sociopath, this is all much easier. Unlike the narcissist, he doesn’t have to perform mental gymnastics to subdue his guilt in order to exploit others with an unburdened conscience. The sociopath has no guilt to manage.
But the sociopath’s dead conscience isn’t per se what makes him sociopathic. Many people have weak consciences who aren’t sociopaths. It is his dead conscience in conjunction with his orientation to exploit that gets to the heart (really, heartlessness) of the sociopath.
The sociopath is variously a manipulator, liar, deceiver and violator of others; and he is these things less to regulate his unstable self-esteem than, more often than not, to enjoy himself, amuse himself, entertain himself, and take what he feels like taking in a way he finds optimally satisfying.
The sociopath, as I have discussed previously, is an audacious exploiter. His lack of shame supports his imperturbability, which enhances the experience of his audacity. The sociopath leaves one shaking one’s head at his nerve, his gall. One imagines that to venture the deception and outrages the sociopath pursues with his famous, blithe composure, he must possess a chilling callousness and coldness beneath what may otherwise be his veneer of “normality.” One imagines correctly.
Now sometimes we find ourselves dealing, as I’ve suggested, with individuals who seem, at once, to be both narcissist and sociopath, as if straddling, or embodying both disorders.
These are the individuals I’m proposing to call narcissiopaths.
For a good celebrity example of this, consider O.J. Simpson. Simpson, as his story evolved, was someone you found yourself confusingly calling a narcissistic personality disorder (probably correctly) in one conversation, and in the very next, a sociopath (probably correctly).
You found yourself vacillating between the two diagnoses because he seemed to fulfill important criteria of both. There was O.J. the narcissist: publicly charming, charismatic, disarmingly engaging and seductively likeable while privately, behind closed doors, he was tyrannizing Nicole Brown whenever he felt his “omnipotent control” threatened.
Simpson came to epitomize the indulged athlete: catered to all his life for his special athletic gifts, somewhere along the line he came to believe, with ultimately violent conviction, in his right to control and be heeded, not defied.
Simpson was all about “looking good,” about public show; in Nicole Brown he’d found a woman—a “trophy wife—”who could “reflect well” on him publicly, and on his “greatness.” She was also, tragically, the “perfect” choice to engage his narcissistic compulsion to alternately idealize, and then devalue, her; that is, to idealize the perfect, and then devalue the perfectly dirty, sex object.
In other words, in choosing her, Simpson chose well for his narcissism.
In the end, Simpson was as charming, ingratiating, and as shallow and superficial as so many narcissists (and all sociopaths) are.
But he was more than that. He was also callous, and brutally violent. He descended upon Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman like the knife-wielding devil he was, nearly carving Brown’s head off and massacring Goldman.
And then”¦he lied.
He maintained his innocence with outrageous brazenness, determined to win the next stage of yet another game. And where was the remorse? There was none; just his arrogant, insulting contempt.
Simpson had executed a miraculous performance. He had escaped from double-murder and the incontrovertible evidence of his guilt as improbably, as impossibly, as he’d so often escaped (brilliantly) opposing defenses and game-plans geared to stop him.
Finally, although I’d say that Simpson probably tilts, on balance, more to a narcissistic personality structure than not, he also possesses many of the most dangerous and essential diagnostic features of the sociopath. He seems, in other words, to be not entirely one or the other, but both narcissist and sociopath all in one.
I intend to flesh out the concept of the narcissiopath in future posts. And I look forward, as always, to your feedback.
(This article is copyrighted © 2009 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
Dear willIeverbehealed,
I am so sorry that you had to go through this. FIRST off there is nothing wrong with you. You are not stupid or screwed up. There was nothing you could have done to predict this or to prevent it…..
Suicide “feels” like the ULTIMATE F____ YOU. I know this because I have been there. My husband commited suicide. Not in my presence but when our 3 1/2 year old son was with him.
Him taking his life in front of you was cruel. BEYOND cruel. You will never be able to make sense out of that. Because it is beyond comprehension. Just as it was for my husband to do this with his child there.
Suicide is a hard death to grieve. The “why” question that you ask over and over and over again hinders the initial grieving process. Trying to make sense out of a sensless act.
Grief is a long process, a journey…..You will be sad, angry, depressed, hurt, and more….You might feel emotions that you might be totally unfamiliar with all at the same time. Or be really angry one minute and then very sad the next. The emotions will be complex and exhausting at times.
Forgiving him will take some time. BUT forgive yourself, right now. You did NOTHING to deserve this. NOTHING.
Because of the overwhelming emotions that a suicide victim(you are the vicim of his act) faces I would read some books on suicide survival. I wish I could recomend some by name but it has been a long time since I read the books and I have given them all out to others in need to read over the years.
Go to the library. I will say that the most HELPFUL books that I read where authored by suicide survivors themselves. Not the ones written by the “doctors” but books written by mothers who lost children, wives who lost husbands etc. These people have been there…..Nothing clinical in the books but all about healing and where & HOW to begin.
Oh my god, willieverbehealed. You have had a terrible double strike….the emotional rape and the suicide. My bad man was suicidal at times and made sure I knew it, would thank me for “saving my life” and then shortly thereafter dump me again. I think they are SO addicted to “winning” that they will shoot themselves in the foot, cut their nose off to spite their face, or commit suicide to “win”. What an unbelievably cruel thing to have done to you. UNBELIEVABLE. Reaching up from the grave to continue the torture. Don’t let him win. It will take time. Be ever so gentle and loving to yourself. This is worse than a physical rape. This is worse than being beat up. Go easy on yourself. Any hassle you can remove from your life, do so. You might go even to your regular doctor and explain what has happened and ask for their recommendation. Some medication for the next 6 months to a year might help you as you go through the healing process…or not, depending on how you feel. I hope you can get some counseling. this is so much to deal with.
Having said that, there are others on here who have faced terrible tragedies and survived and healed.
When will you be healed? It is going to take some time. Be patient. Do KNOW and BELIEVE that what you are feeling is temporary, it WILL get better. It WILL.
Love and hugs to you.
PS I have a girlfriend whose father hung himself in front of her. Of course she rescued him. But he blamed it all on her, even though she was the one who actually saved his life!!!
She is well and happy today. There is a way out to happiness again.
willIeverbehealed, I am glad you are here to gain the solace from friends (even if we are strangers) that you so sorely need right now.
First, you are NOT to blame for any of this, especially his final exit. Matt said it well, he said, “Clearly, when you found the strength to break things off, he lost control. And what better way to assert perpetual, beyond the grave control over you than to kill himself in front of you?”
YOU WERE NOT STUPID, YOU WERE DUPED — right from the start!
[And you were lucky in a way. He killed himself and not you. Mine tried to kill ME for daring to leave him! I learned that narcissiopaths can’t STAND to lose control of their chosen partner. Their inner rage is common at that point and part of the pattern of the N/S/P.
This paragraph describes my life and experiences with a narcissiopath very well: “He was charming, cruel, generous (WHEN I TOED THE LINE), vindictive, hated himself, intelligent, deceitful, religious, depressed, good sense of humor, unforgiving, had that “you and the world owe me whatever I want” attitude, never wrong, etc. A very complex, mixed up CONTROL FREAK (my caps)
On the other hand, I’m not sure mine “hated himself.” I think he just had deep love for himself and didn’t have the capacity to love others. But he sure played a good act!
I felt stupid for being so blind and accommodating, too. A very good counselor demanded that I forget the word, stupid, and others like it like “if only…” and “I should have…”
I wish I could be more helpful to you — but frankly I am feeling such grief for you, I can hardly type what I did. I CARE!
williever–
Here is a fair use quote from a newsletter from Sandra Brown:”Think ‘Zen Retreat Center’ — a subdued environment where your senses can rest…where a body that has been too pumped up with adrenaline can let down…a mind that races can relax, the video flash-backs can go on pause, fast-paced chest panting can turn into long/slow/deep diaphragmatic breathing, where darting eyes can close, where soft scents soothe, and gentle music lulls, where high heels come off and flip flops go on…where long quiet walks give way to tension release…where quieting of the mind chases off the demons of hyperactive thinking….where when you whisper you can hear yourself.
Only, this isn’t a retreat center for once a year…this is your life where your recovery and your need for all things-gentle, are center in your life. It doesn’t mean you need to quit your job or move to a mountain, but it does mean that you attend to your over-stimulated physical body. Those things in your life you can control such as the tranquility of your own environment need to be. Lifestyle adjustments ARE required for those who want to avoid reactivated anxiety. This includes psychological/emotional, physical, sexual, and spiritual self care techniques.”
http://saferelationshipsmagazine.com/ under ads refers to a new inpatient hospital treatment to help victims of bad men heal. They have an assessment tool to qualify you and some insurance covers treatment. FINALLY!
Dear Betty,
Your post from Monday evening was something I just now read (don’t know how I missed it)
Betty, to me, having been raised in a FAMILY of DRY “alcoholics” and people trained to ENABLE them, I realize that my entire upbringing centered around the use/non-use of alcohol, that had been passed on for generations of abusive drunks and submissive “fixing” women.
The only one in the family who actually drank was my egg donor’s brother Uncle MONSTER–when he was sober, he was a great guy! when he was drunk he was a MONSTER—and he knew when and where he could be the monster and when he had to be sober, so he was VERY deliberate about keeping these two worlds and faces separate.
Some others have mentioned that it was the ALCOHOL that brought out the P-BEHAVIOR that the person wasn’t a person who behaved like a P when they were sober…..now look at it this way. Alcohol DIS-INHIBITS a person. For example, I cannot sing well, but I love to sing, so if I get a few drinks I will start to SING and I sound SO GOOD to myself. When I am sober, I realize my singing sounds bad so I am inhibited by my knowledge that me singing is not a good idea. But the alcohol takes away that judgment and inhibition and so when I am tipsy I SING.
The person who is a mean drunk would LIKE TO BE MEAN ALL THE TIME but for whatever reason he is INHIBITED from doing these mean thing, but the alcohol takes away the inhibitions and the socill inhibitions from doing what he really WANTS to do sober but is afraid to do.
Uncle MONSTER’S REAL FACE was uncovered by the alcohol. His “mr. Nice Guy” face was a FAKE, the REAL face was the monster. I think that is a pretty much given with people and the REAL person is the one you see when they are drunk, and the sober person is the one that they put on for the “world” to see.
I realize also that there are some genetic links to being addicted to alcohol and/or drugs, etc. however, a person who cared about his/her family would not continue to drink when they realized what they did when they were drunk. Therefore I think if a person is a “nasty drunk” they would like to be a sober nasty person, but just don’t have the guts. So, my assessment is if a person is a P when they are drunk, they are a cowardly P when sober, just not ACTING out quite so much. Same opinions, smae no conscience, just no guts unless they are drunk.
Many people I have known in AA were “sober” but they were STILL arseholes who were so “righteous” about being sober, but they still treated others badly and/or they were outright Psychopathic–I believe the term to describe them in AA is “dry drunk” meaning they are nasty folks sober or drunk, behaving as if disinhibited by booze.
I never saw the similarity of my “non-drinking” family and the families around me whose “daddy” was a drunk. In fact, in my family there was PRIDE that we were somehow MORE HOLY and better behaved than most of the neighbors, more honest, more up right etc. What a crock of crap. It wasn’t what we lived, it was what we tried to make the rest of the community see. Behavior was based on “what would the neighbors think?” And so as long as the family covered up or pretended that we were a “nice, normal family” they were secure in the falsehood that we were “better” than others.
Betty, so many of us share your “upbringing” that makes us primed to walk on egg shells and keep the secrets of the psychopaths—dry or drunk–but at the same time, we are the flip side of the coin of no caring, we care TOO much, which leaves us open to abuse.
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The psychopath will and can enve rlearn to care, but we can and are learning to focus our caring in a productive way for ourselves and not to throw away our love and caring to the psychopaths at our own peril.
jesus advised his followers “not to cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them into the mire and turn and rend you.” We also should not cast our pearls of caring before the swine of the psychopath, because s/he will turn and tear us up.
Betty your wonderful and compassionate post to Tilly about her instructor in ARt school, and linking to your story was so kind and caring, filled with empathy and compassion. It made me want to reach out and give you a big cyber ((((Hug)))) and thank you for being such a giving person. I’m glad you are healing and coming to peace with that terrible ordeal. Love Oxy
Love the description of the narcissistic sociopath. I sat across from my ex last week after having no contact for over 6 months. He is truly both N and S. I told him he was evil and to look at himself… he rolled his eyes, chuckled, and said “you believe what you want to believe”, just as he had done to me for years… planting that seed of doubt. I actually had some type of out of body experience while sitting across from him – I could hear my own voice and it was so distracting that I sounded ridiculous. Has anyone ever had that happen?
His manipulation of me no longer works like it used to… I still shake and have PTSD on occasion, but now that I’m filled with the knowledge of who he is and how he operates, it doesn’t consume me like it used to. It saddens me for my children, but they are learning early on that people without conscience exist in this world, and the rest of us have to protect ourselves from them. It’s sad, but true.
I told my STBXP that he (was evil) had evil inside of him and he cried and pleaded that he didn’t.
Yeah. I don’t hold a lot back.
Heck if I weren’t as smart as I am I’d say “Hey. You’re a sociopath. Why would i want anything to do with you?”
But I did basically accuse him of each of the characteristics.
Banana, I toyed with fire when I did say that to him. I had brought all the wrath upon myself.
Just now had a curious conversation with a (self proclaimed) vampire. He said mine was subbocai. Interesting, how in each belief, each tale, each historical event the evil of the world has those same characteristics. I just remembered, mine – hated garlic, LOL
Stay safe. They are worthless useless beings, who live off of others.
Sorry if I offended anybody earlier today when I (flamed). That asshole that was on this thread has the same male narcissist mentality that my father and brother have. Guess when your born with out a conscience you just don’t understand people that do have one. I guess with out a conscience you dont need values or morals either…anyway it got deleted _ thank you Donna and again sorry for my outburst…