What do you call someone you’ve been describing alternately as a narcissist and sociopath? Someone for whom neither diagnosis alone quite suffices as a complete description of the individual, but rather in whom both disorders seem as if wrapped up in one menacing individual?
Pardoning my grandiosity for daring to expand the already crowded psychiatric nomeclature, I propose to call these hybrid personalities“narcissiopaths.”
While I don’t expect the DSM folks to take me very seriously (or anyone else for that matter), I’m thinking (unfacetiously) that there’s a case to be made here.
The narcissiopath, as I envision him (using “him” for convenience’s sake) will meet many of the essential criteria for both narcissistic and sociopathic personality. The closest extant clinical description of this disordered individual that comes to mind is the confusing term “maligant narcissist.”
Now personally, I find the term “malignant narcissist” wanting: for instance, precisely at what point does a narcissist turn “malignant?” And doesn’t this imply the concept of non-malignant narcissists who, by definition, must be “benign?” (I’m not so sure their partners would attest to their harmlessness?)
My concept, the narcissiopath, suggests very directly the personality fusion of narcissism and sociopathy in this particular personality. The narcissiopath is the individual who effectively conflates narcissism and sociopathy.
Let me briefly review these separate personalities—the narcissist and sociopath—in their more classical presentations. The narcissist is fundamentally a recognition-craver, a reassurance-craver, a convenience-craver, and an inordinate craver and demander of attention, catering and special status. He is in many respects insatiably needy emotionally.
At root, the narcissist is an overly entitled personality. He feels entitled to be accomodated on a pretty much continual basis. This begs the question, on what basis does he accord himself this right—to expect, that is, the continual accomodation of his needs and desires? The answer is, on the basis of his sense of himself as “special,” and his expectation that others—indeed, the world—will also recognize him as special.
Psychologically, a compensatory process often occurs with the narcissist. His “sensed” and “imposed” specialness is often a compensation for underlying and threatening self-vulnerability; and compensation for doubts about his power, worth and attractiveness—doubts that he is too immature to face squarely and maturely.
Although exploitation is not typically the narcissist’s primary motive, we recognize his capacity to be manipulative, cruel, deceptive and abusive; yet his darker machinations are usually secondary to his demanding, and sometimes desperate, pursuit of others’ attention and cooperation.
The narcissist is imfamously inept at managing his disappointment. He feels that he should never be disappointed, that others owe him protection from disappointment. When disappointed, he will find someone to blame, and will quickly de-idealize and devalue his disappointer.
Devaluing his disappointer now enables him to abuse her or him with more righteous indignation and less guilt.
For the sociopath, this is all much easier. Unlike the narcissist, he doesn’t have to perform mental gymnastics to subdue his guilt in order to exploit others with an unburdened conscience. The sociopath has no guilt to manage.
But the sociopath’s dead conscience isn’t per se what makes him sociopathic. Many people have weak consciences who aren’t sociopaths. It is his dead conscience in conjunction with his orientation to exploit that gets to the heart (really, heartlessness) of the sociopath.
The sociopath is variously a manipulator, liar, deceiver and violator of others; and he is these things less to regulate his unstable self-esteem than, more often than not, to enjoy himself, amuse himself, entertain himself, and take what he feels like taking in a way he finds optimally satisfying.
The sociopath, as I have discussed previously, is an audacious exploiter. His lack of shame supports his imperturbability, which enhances the experience of his audacity. The sociopath leaves one shaking one’s head at his nerve, his gall. One imagines that to venture the deception and outrages the sociopath pursues with his famous, blithe composure, he must possess a chilling callousness and coldness beneath what may otherwise be his veneer of “normality.” One imagines correctly.
Now sometimes we find ourselves dealing, as I’ve suggested, with individuals who seem, at once, to be both narcissist and sociopath, as if straddling, or embodying both disorders.
These are the individuals I’m proposing to call narcissiopaths.
For a good celebrity example of this, consider O.J. Simpson. Simpson, as his story evolved, was someone you found yourself confusingly calling a narcissistic personality disorder (probably correctly) in one conversation, and in the very next, a sociopath (probably correctly).
You found yourself vacillating between the two diagnoses because he seemed to fulfill important criteria of both. There was O.J. the narcissist: publicly charming, charismatic, disarmingly engaging and seductively likeable while privately, behind closed doors, he was tyrannizing Nicole Brown whenever he felt his “omnipotent control” threatened.
Simpson came to epitomize the indulged athlete: catered to all his life for his special athletic gifts, somewhere along the line he came to believe, with ultimately violent conviction, in his right to control and be heeded, not defied.
Simpson was all about “looking good,” about public show; in Nicole Brown he’d found a woman—a “trophy wife—”who could “reflect well” on him publicly, and on his “greatness.” She was also, tragically, the “perfect” choice to engage his narcissistic compulsion to alternately idealize, and then devalue, her; that is, to idealize the perfect, and then devalue the perfectly dirty, sex object.
In other words, in choosing her, Simpson chose well for his narcissism.
In the end, Simpson was as charming, ingratiating, and as shallow and superficial as so many narcissists (and all sociopaths) are.
But he was more than that. He was also callous, and brutally violent. He descended upon Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman like the knife-wielding devil he was, nearly carving Brown’s head off and massacring Goldman.
And then”¦he lied.
He maintained his innocence with outrageous brazenness, determined to win the next stage of yet another game. And where was the remorse? There was none; just his arrogant, insulting contempt.
Simpson had executed a miraculous performance. He had escaped from double-murder and the incontrovertible evidence of his guilt as improbably, as impossibly, as he’d so often escaped (brilliantly) opposing defenses and game-plans geared to stop him.
Finally, although I’d say that Simpson probably tilts, on balance, more to a narcissistic personality structure than not, he also possesses many of the most dangerous and essential diagnostic features of the sociopath. He seems, in other words, to be not entirely one or the other, but both narcissist and sociopath all in one.
I intend to flesh out the concept of the narcissiopath in future posts. And I look forward, as always, to your feedback.
(This article is copyrighted © 2009 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
Dear Witsend,
I will be as curious as you to see what coping skills were used and any advice to help you cope through this very real and difficult time in your life. My heart aches as I read your words and feel on such a much smaller scale than you (because you are living it) but just reading it I feel pain and anguish and want to just scream to the heavens above….PLEASE GIVE ANSWERS…PLEASE GIVE DIRECTION AND SOME RESOLUTION…and I want to take you away from it – if only for a day – so the constant burden isnt on your shoulders….
But for now all I can do is be here for you and listen and reassure you that you have all of our support and understanding and we will help you through this as best we can. You are not alone…something will give one way or another. And whatever happens you are going to be well prepared for it. Love, hugs, and prayers.. LTL xxxooo
witsend,
I hate to ask this, but what it would it take to get him out of your life? Is he old enough to leave? Can get him into any kind of residential program?
It sounds like your only option is to draw a hard line. Give him a list of what it’s going to take to keep living with you, break it down on a daily basis, and then tell him that you’re not going to keep on supporting him under the current circumstances.
You’re not looking for compliance on the detail level. You’re looking for a total attitude change. He has no respect for you, and is doing everything he can to sabotage your efforts to protect him and bring him up to be a responsible adult.
What he is communicating by his behavior is that he’s not interested in what you want. And I think that you have to communicate back that you’re not interested in him, if that’s the way it’s going to be.
And if he’s assuming that you have to take care of him, that you have no choice, he’s going to face some unpleasant surprises. Because you don’t intend to be his victim.
Obviously this takes an attitudinal shift on your part too. But this attempt of yours to show him how good things can be when he’s not being obnoxious is rewarding him for behavior that is just marginally acceptable. (As you say, it’s you giving and him taking, but the only good part is that you’re not deal with overt bad-boy behavior.) That’s not good enough.
If you can’t do that, if you don’t feel safe doing that — which would be my concern — then you’re not safe anyway.
I believe what you say. You’re explanation of all this is very clear. And I think I recall that you’ve put him through every diagnostic and therapeutic program you can find. Whatever his problem is — whether it’s a psychological issue or a matter of emotional maturity — the bottom line is that he’s taking advantage of you and making your life hell. And he’s out of your control.
So back to the original question, do you have any options right now when it comes to getting him out of your house and your hands?
Kathy
witsend:
What is the age of emancipation in your state? If your son wants out, then I’d tell him to see a lawyer, file for emancipation and then he’s on his own, no support from you. No room and board. No money. No nothing.
Have the administered the PCL to your son? There are a large number of behaviors being exhibited by your son that remind me of my ex.
witsend,
How I wish I had some words of wisdom for you but I don’t. As you know, I went through so many of the same things you are now dealing with, and I was unsuccessful.
All I can say is trust your instincts. If your inner voice tells you to keep trying, then keep doing what you’re doing. If your inner voice says the opposite, then protect yourself.
My thoughts are with you. Get out and try to relieve the tension as much as you can. This too shall pass.
witsend
how old is your son?
does he have any tendencies towards thrill seeking? jhe sounds very psychopathic…maybe he can do something instead of school where he can vent his thrill seeking and create the least damage and stop suffocating you. i dont know what he would be prone to, motorcrossing?? playing poker?? anything is better than just parasiting off of you….
in the mean time i think matts idea of letting him to the PCL might be good, also for you to get clarity on it so that wont be yet another thing you will wonder about when it comes to him. try to find some ways of relaxation for yourself in the midst of all of this.
Dear Witsend, This is the heavy problem you delayed posting due to the falderol a few days ago, isn’t it? If it is, I want you to know I was praying for you until you felt free to post. I “worried” about you handling this alone. (I hope that translates to concern and empathy, not co-dependence!)
Like the others, I don’t have much concrete advice but I do like Matt’s suggestion for filing for emancipation. You deserve some peace!
BUT, this isn’t your main problem, is it? Correct me if I’m wrong. But I sense your biggest concern is not knowing if he is disordered or not — and whether there is something you can or cannot do for him.
My “problem” with our only son (adopted at 5 days old) occured during his junior and senior years — when all of his 3 sisters had grown and left home and truly was an “only” child. He had been diagnosed as ADHD in first grade so a structured home life was essential for him to be able to focus.Of course, it wasn’t until his sisters left home that a truly structured life was possible and I perceived that he didn’t know how to handle it. (Besides, he truly missed his sisters.) Golly, the situation was so different from yours what I could add won’t be helpful at all, I don’t think.
When he refused to go back to public school (where drugs and alchohol were rampant) what I did do, though, was enroll him in a local private Christian school. Since “empty suit” refused to pay his tuition, I taught free (for his tuition) for those two years. He did flourish there but I tried hard not to “police” him. His teachers were kind, caring, loving and understanding. I remain indebted to them to this day!
If you have to endure his presence — and worry about next year when he refuses to repeat his sophomore year which he will probably do — I have only three suggestions, that may or may not help.
1) Remember to breathe (deep breaths in and slowly out) as often a day as you need to calm yourself when extra stressed.
2) Remember that if he is disordered, you are powerless to help him (Congratulations on all the avenues you’ve tried already.) and stop expending useless energy.
3) Remember (it is sometmes hard) to just let him know each day that you love and care for him — and know that one day he will truly be on his own and out of your house.
I mentioned $2, because I “tried” for 46.5 years to “love” (and do research) my “empty suit” to health. I knew he was unhealthy (and secretly violent) but I mistakenly thought it was due to his epilepsy. NOT! I did learn solidly, though, that since I had tried every thing I knew to do — and what not to do — there was no change, only more intense nonsensical violence, until I had no choice but to pack my suitcase and GET OUT.
I have very little information about what his childhood was like. I met him when he was 20 — and he stalked me from the first day I met him. (I was 19) But, I didn’t have a clue what “stalking” was, except that I didn’t like it.
As I read your story, I thought of the three children of one of my best friends, who behaved BEAUTIFULLY during their school years. Then, after each one graduated and went to college, they each brought such pain to their parents — leaving them mightily perplexed and feeling helpless. To date, only two of them have “turned around.” But, their parents have wisely taken care of themselves and not let it disrupt their future goals. Not much at all one can do to influence the children when they become adults.Yet, I do want to add that the parents (my friends) now have three grandchildren and seem to get along well with their family — in spite of bumps.
Our son is now 41 years old, has a good job, but is/was TIED to his father’s “apron strings” alhough in this past month I have seen some progress about his financial independence — and the accompanying CONTROL of him.
I agree that continuing to hope when it is obvious there is no hope isn’t too good an idea. Only you can decide when to give up the hope (but still love him.)
I stayed in “malignant hope” too long with my EX and by the time I left, there was no hope left in my spirit, mind, or feelikng. But, I will never give up hope for my adult children — even if I never know the full story of their shunning me when I left their father. Our relationship had been surprisingly “normal” until I took that airplane 1800 miles away.
Endofpain, where are you? Have you posted and I just missed it? I’ve been”on a break” for a few days.
How did the court case go on that Thursday? I hope no news is good news and you are on your way to a new life!
Kathy:
Thankyou so much kathy, I am already exhausted emotionally and the triggers are well and truly up and running with the P teaching me two classess.
Those sayings your sociopath used to say are so PERFECT, for this scenario.
I have always worked a million times harder for my High Distinctions than I needed to because I thought that then they had no choice but to pass me, at least. But i know if they are determined they can create anything they want to…for awhile.
Another saying I remember chillingly that the worst P I ever knew used to say (i.e. my ex husband) regularly, was, “keep your enemies onside, be their best friend, so that you are never on the suspect list later.” And I watched him practise that behaviour to perfection over the years. His best friend, who was equally as cold and psychopahic and murderous, didn’t have a sense of humour at all. But sometimes my P could make him laugh by saying, “they think that snarl of yours is a smile mate”. And they would both crack up laughing. That is the only time I ever saw the other p laughing. He is dead now (murdered and still a cold case 20 years on).
Anyway, we will see what God has in store for me. One thing is for sure, I will have a copy of your last blog in my pencil case to read regularly in her class!
Thanks again kathy. You are precious to me.
xo
I am a Christian and have been “saved” for 10 years. I met my P 3 years ago. I thought things were okay because he seemed to really “lap-up” all the details of my faith, went to church and “enjoyed” it, we would even discuss topics in regaurd to “our” beliefs.
As a Christian I have been thinking and Talking to God about how my P’s diagnoses should be handled in regard to my faith. Ie: should I pray for him? What does the bible say about these people? I didn’t think the bible “covered” these issues. All I could think of was how were are to love all people; “love your neighbor as you love yourself”.
Today God gave me the answer in 2 Peter 2…
RELIGIOUS, but I hope you’ll read it.
False Prophets and Teachers
2:1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment; 5 if he did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a herald of righteousness, with seven others, when he brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly; 6 if by turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes he condemned them to extinction, making them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7 and if he rescued righteous Lot, greatly distressed by the sensual conduct of the wicked 8 (for as that righteous man lived among them day after day, he was tormenting his righteous soul over their lawless deeds that he saw and heard); 9 then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment until the day of judgment, 10 and especially those who indulge in the lust of defiling passion and despise authority.
Bold and willful, they do not tremble as they blaspheme the glorious ones, 11 whereas angels, though greater in might and power, do not pronounce a blasphemous judgment against them before the Lord.
12 But these, like irrational animals, creatures of instinct, born to be caught and destroyed, blaspheming about matters of which they are ignorant, will also be destroyed in their destruction,
13 suffering wrong as the wage for their wrongdoing. They count it pleasure to revel in the daytime. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their deceptions, while they feast with you. [Cheating] 14 They have eyes full of adultery, insatiable for sin. They entice unsteady souls. They have hearts trained in greed. Accursed children! 15 Forsaking the right way, they have gone astray. They have followed the way of Balaam, the son of Beor, who loved gain from wrongdoing, 16 but was rebuked for his own transgression; a speechless donkey spoke with human voice and restrained the prophet’s madness.
17 These are waterless springs and mists driven by a storm. For them the gloom of utter darkness has been reserved.
18 For, speaking loud boasts of folly, they entice by sensual passions of the flesh those who are barely escaping from those who live in error. [I, as well as his mistress were leaving an abusive relationship when he dug his hooks into us]
19 They promise them freedom, but they themselves are slaves of corruption. For whatever overcomes a person, to that he is enslaved. 20 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. 21 For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them. 22 What the true proverb says has happened to them: “The dog returns to its own vomit, and the sow, after washing herself, returns to wallow in the mire.”
Banana, Thank you for printing out all of the 2nd Peter verses. I had forgotten where these were found.
I, too, have been a Christian since I was 15 and only years later learned that small town farm boys (like mine) were told to look for a Christian for a mate — and he did. I knew from the first, he wasn’t “right” but I couldn’t extricate myself from him. Longer story —
Anyway, this verse stood out for me tonight, “21: For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them.”
This stood out because he CLAIMED to be a Christian and I have no way of knowing if he was or was not except by his “fruits” which didn’t jibe with his words.
Since age 15, I have read the Bible from front to back almost every year. I say “almost” because sometimes when troubled, I read slower and it took more than a year!
I can’t remember how many nights “Empty Suit” would listen to me read Scriptures before bed each night. But, he did and man, oh, man, did that action blindside me and prolong my “malignant hope.”. I assumed he was serious!
Anyway, seven years ago a few months after I had left, this particular verse “jumped out” at me because after refusing to go to church with me for years, after I left, I learned that he manipulated himself into being elected as a deacon in my church!! — and became a regular attendee, according to my dear friends who to this day still contact me. (We don’t talk about him any more, though)
There are some more pertinent verses about “bad guys” — one section, I think, is in Hebrews. I’ll have to look it up.
There is another mention that God “hates” men who “cover themselves with violence” right after the OT verse that states, “I hate divorce, saith the Lord.”
I have queetioned over and over why I only internalized about God hating divorce and the following verses didn’t penetrate my mind until AFTER I had left. At least, when I finally read them, I knew beyond doubt, my divorce was “okay” with God.
If you met your “blankedy blank” AFTER you were saved, I’ll bet you have questioned yourself as I have, “HOW did this happen?!” Have you come up with an answer? I haven’t — except to be grateful that He was with me all through it and my faith grew stronger and stronger as a result of the ordeal.
I still do pray for him — some weeks or months I did not — and even though I didn’t love him at the start (I got trapped) I must have grown to love him because I sure don’t wish him harm — at least from me.
I’m still researching the diference between “love” and “trauma bonding.”
I want to end this with expressed joy for you that you found an answer in these verses today. PTL