Unfortunately clinicians and researchers often tend to interact with a specific segment of our society and to develop their own ways of describing the problems of the people they work with. For example, there are professionals who work with clients who have “personality disorders”, there are professionals who work with criminals in the justice system and there are professionals who work with perpetrators of domestic abuse/violence.
Each of these three groups of professionals has their own lingo for describing very similar people with very similar patterns of behavior. Each group also has a different “theoretical orientation” or view of the problems of humanity.
Because those who work with family abusers often lack experience with sociopaths in other settings they do not know that family abusers are sociopaths.
Where does that leave you, a victim or family member of a disordered, abusive individual?
To spare you the task of sorting through these three distinct ways of looking at the person who created havoc in your life, with the help of The Abusive Personality, I will present here more on the work of Dr. Dutton a psychologist who understand the personality profile of abusers.
First of all, I can say with confidence that individuals who abuse and victimize lovers, friends and family members are personality disordered. As Dr. Dutton points out on page 8 of The Abusive Personality, “Because IPV (intimate partner violence) occurs in a minority of relationships it cannot be explained by social norms. In fact, normative acceptance of IPV is low in North American populations. .. When people act in a chronically dysfunctional manner that violates the norms of their culture, their behavior is attributable to a personality disorder.”
Dr. Dutton makes a compelling argument that the “abusive personality” stems from what is known as borderline personality organization. According to psychoanalyst Otto Kernberg, adult and adolescent patients with antisocial personality possess an underlying borderline personality organization. Attachment theorists also suggests an association between borderline personality disorder and antisocial behavior or even antisocial personality disorder. Dr. Dutton acknowledges that many perpetrators are violent and antisocial outside the family and many appear to completely lack empathy and remorse. All chronic perpetrators have an extreme inability to empathize with their victims and seem to only express remorse as a means of maintaining the relationship. These emotional deficits are considered to be diagnostic of sociopathy.
According to Dr. Dutton, both male and female abusers experience cyclical changes in personality that relate to abuse perpetration. These cycles, have interfered with understanding the personality of abusers. The cycles happen because abusers experience a great deal of negative emotion and they blame this negative emotion on those closest to them. After they “blow off steam” by abusing loved ones, they experience a temporary relief from these negative emotions. During the time they “feel better” they may seem like model spouses and parents.
In my opinion, there are four other characteristics of men and women who perpetrate partner/family abuse that have interfered with our understanding that these abusers are psychopathic and are truly sociopaths. These are:
1. The degree to which they cling to those whom they abuse.
2. Their high level of anxiety and other negative emotions.
3. Lack of abuse of strangers and non-family members.
4. Lack of criminal arrest for other offenses.
I want to address each of these characteristics by asking then answering the related questions people have asked me over the years.
Question #1 Does the fact that my ______________ keeps calling and doesn’t want to lose me mean that deep down he/she really loves me?
Answer#1 NO! Although sociopaths are not capable of love they are very social and most often want to count themselves in as part of a family, extended family and friendship network. If they are alone how will they be able to do what they do best which is abuse and control people? Also if they are alone, how can they use people to get the other things they want. Especially as sociopaths get older and their ability to charm others declines they tend to want to stick with those they have taken advantage of in the past.
Question #2 My poor _________ is just depressed/anxious/angry about being mistreated and abused as a child. Won’t my love and reassurance help him/her get over it?
Answer #2 NO! If your______ has a long standing pattern of abusing you and/or other family members it means something very important so listen. It means he or she equates abuse with being in a relationship, just like you equate love and caring with being in a relationship. Since that is true, your love will only make the person more abusive.
Question#3 My ___________ only abuses me and no one else so it must be my fault. Right?
Answer #3 NO! Your __________ would abuse others if he/she thought he/she could get away with it and will abuse anyone else he/she feels close ties with. An intimate relationship brings out abusive behavior in people who have a borderline personality organization.
Question#4 My _____________ has never been arrested can he/she still be a sociopath?
Answer #4 YES! Antisocial behavior is behavior that hurts other people. When this hurtful behavior is perpetrated by someone who lacks empathy or remorse it reflects psychopathy/sociopathy.
In summary, I recommend that all mental health professionals who work with the victims and family members of sociopaths read Dr. Dutton’s book The Abusive Personality. I also recommend another of Dr. Dutton’s books, The Batterer a Psychological Profile for victims of domestic violence. Order it through Amazon today with these links:
The Abusive Personality
The Batterer a Psychological Profile
Does anyone want me to try to explain what “borderline personality organization” is?
Is there anyone who still has trouble accepting that partner abusers are sociopaths?
lol thx blueskies.
Being pissed off, to get back to who I am, helps much more than ruminating on “why?”
Oh lordy, I get that:)x I can disappear up my own trumpet with the ‘whys’.. and often do! 🙂
Dear NYD and Dude,
Dude, she is manipulating you for a visa—-you have been suckered, because you are not the kind of person who can use others. This is fairly common with many foreign women who want a pass to the US. I’ve had several male friends who ended up in your shoes. RUN. Cancel her visa and do not have any contact with this woman ever again is my advice. DO NOT EVEN TALK TO HER or LISTEN to her. The big trick they use is to make it that it is the victim’s fault. It is NOT.
Good advice NYD!
Dude:
My brother’s wife is completely charming, and even witty in social settings. She also does all of the wifely and motherly things…….ON THE SURFACE.
The bad news is she is also a con artist, raging psychopath, and child abuser with no conscience, guilt, empathy, or remorse for anyone but herself. Nothing at all below the surface except ice water running through her veins.
Just know that female psychopaths can be just as nasty and dangerous as the male ones. Your situation is very serious, and this woman should NOT be underestimated.
Please stop feeling sorry for her, and get rid of her ASAP.
Hopefully, there are no children involved here.
Anyway, Dude, welcome to LoveFraud. Love your name.
Thanks for the replies..Not really what I wanted to hear though..
I thought these things before, and my mum and even the priest in the church said the same things, but having lived with her she is complex. She genuinely is suffering, and everyone she has talked to tells me she loves me. I emailed her friends and boss back in Russia to check out some of her stories and they confirmed her stories were true and said she was a good person!
She is doesn’t try to hide things from me and can be pretty naive in some ways.
Her dad died when she was young and I suspect that screwed her up but she absolutely refuses to admit she has any prob’s.
She knows I’m not very financial but still married me, so if she wants to take my money she picked the wrong target..I live in a rental flat!
When I tried to cancel her visa she genuinely fell apart..
Denial stage maybe, but by God she is complicated..
Dear Dude,
Actually, they are NOT complicated, they are focused on one thing, what they “need” (want) for themselves but are EXPECTING YOU to supply. Okay, so she had some problems when she was a kid—big deal, most of us here have as well. That does NOT give her a PASS to blame others for her plight.
It may not be what you WANT to hear but WE are not able to FIX someone else, they have to FIX themselves,a nd she is “fixing”herself by using you to get a VISA to US…this is a VERY common PLOY with foreign women.
I can’t say as I blame them, Russia is a hard place to live, but at the same time, SHE is responsible for herself and she is NOT SHOWING COMPASSION OR GRATITUTE to you, but DEMANDING this and demanding that and projecting blame on to YOU.
Her “love” consists of NEEDING YOU FOR A VISA and/or money. I’m sorry, but that is the way the disordered work.
I tried to “fix” my psychopathic son for 30+ years, didn’t work, and many here have psychopathic parents (I do too) children, bosses, lovers, spouses, neighbors, etc. ALL THE SAME, blame the victim they are using. As long as we are in the “FOG” (FEAR, OBLIGATION AND GUILT) we keep on trying to make ourselves meet their demands.
Brush this woman off like a spider on your arm before she bites you any worse is my suggestion and I bet a doughnut to a new Lexus that everyone here will say the same thing to you. We’ve been through the drama, trauma and being used as victims. That’s why we are here, to learn how to discard them anf fix the damage they ahve done to us, and to learn how to spot the next one that comes along.
Read the back articles (there are a bunch) KNOWLEDGE=POWER to free you from the FOG. Good luck and God bless you.
ps Dude,
Yes, she j”genuinely fell apart” when you canceled her visa, it is the VISA she wants and you are just a means to get it. “The truth will make you free, but first it will Pith you off”
They do fall apart when their PRIZE is in jeapordy.
Dude:
“Her dad died when she was young and I suspect that screwed her up because she absolutely refuses to admit she has any probs.”
You are doing it, Dude. You are making excuses for her, covering for her, and “filling in the blanks” in order to justify her behavior. My brother has done the EXACT same thing for his wife. In my opinion, this will only enable her to continue with more of the same, and you are the the one who carries the burden of the relationship. It’s not fair.
You say there are people back in Russia who will endorse this woman and verify her stories. There are a lot of people who will endorse my brother’s wife, too. She’s a nursing instructor, and a damn good one, from what I hear. The thing is, these people are NOT in a close, personal relationship with her. Therefore, they do not see the cold, callous, and abusive side to her personality (see Dr. Leedom’s article above).
I still suspect that the crying and “falling apart” at the notion of losing her visa are CROCODILE TEARS, and they are neither genuine nor sincere (pity play). It sounds like this woman also missed her opportunity to star in motion pictures.
You say she did not marry you for $$$?? Maybe not. It sounds like she really likes her visa. But, what if another man comes along one day with more money? Will she stay with you, or will she be gone??
You seem like a great man with a really good heart. Please proceed with extreme caution where this woman is concerned. Over time, this will play out. And, if she is wearing a mask, it will slip. But, you are already here at LoveFraud, so something must be a little off???
Dude, I encourage you to keep reading, posting, and educating yourself on personality disorders.
P.S. Just because something is NOT what you want to hear does not make it rubbish. The truth does not always come in a Tiffany box with a pretty blue bow. I hope you understand what I am trying to tell you here.
Dude:
“but by God, she is complicated.”
Nobody is THAT complicated, Dude. I think what you may be experiencing is some crazy-making at the hands of your lovely wife.
You have only posted twice on LoveFraud thus far, from what I can see.
And I can already see you doubting yourself, your perceptions, and your own reality.
At best, she is extremely unstable and fragile. At worst, she has a disorder of some kind. Either way, she does not seem able to carry her share of the emotional responsibilities in this relationship.
I stand by my original post. Get rid of her ASAP.
P.S. In fact, you said in your original post that she already left when you threatened to cancel her visa, and when you begged her to come back, she refused. Let her go!! You don’t want her back.
P.S.S. And if she will bail on you when you talk about cancelling her visa, what will she do when she meets another man? I have a sneaking suspicion that men = stability for this woman. This is a preview of what is in store for you.
Please do not be a sucker. Heed the warning signs and get out now. You deserve so much better.
**Listen to YOUR mum, YOUR priest, and YOUR GUT!
Rosa
it get’s abit more complicated. I talked to an immigration agent with her and he said if I did withdraw support for her visa she would appeal, could possibly claim all sorts of abuse from me, and then be allowed to stay in the country for one to two years pending an immigration tribunal hearing, then may get permanent residency under Family Violence (which BTW only needs her claims, and the statement from a couple of psychologists who support her story – and she has already seen a psychologist who claimed she was stuck in a cycle of violence with ME!).
The immigration agent, who speaks Russian and is a friend on mine, recommended I not do this as it would get her to hate me and she could really make my life hell. He recommended I leave her be, and if I wanted after the compulsory one year separation period here in Australia divorce her..
And tragically I am also stuck thinking I can’t get anyone else…