Yesterday, Dr. Liane Leedom wrote that “false beliefs about sociopaths are very dangerous.” She quoted a judge who said:
“Well I tell you, the world is full of productive sociopaths. Some of them hold high public office. Some of them are lawyers. It could be that a couple of them are judges, and sociopathy by itself is not necessarily a dangerous condition. It can be productive. I think it was Clarence Darrow who commented on that”¦”
Today I’d like to present a case to prove her point.
Over the last 10 days, the Philadelphia Inquirer has been reporting about Carl Greene, the executive director of the Philadelphia Housing Authority (PHA).
The agency Green heads is the city’s biggest landlord, providing housing to 81,000 low-income residents. The PHA has a budget of $345 million per year, funded by the federal government, and 1,150 employees.
Greene, who was hired in 1998, currently earns $306,000 per year. But 10 days ago, it was revealed that his $615,000 townhouse was in foreclosure, and he owed the IRS $52,000 in back taxes.
And, one of his former employees has filed a sexual harassment lawsuit against him. The woman says Greene promised her a promotion, if she submitted to his sexual advances.
Greene’s tenure
Here’s where the “productive sociopath” comes in.
Before Greene was hired, the PHA had a history of waste, fraud and abuse. Greene turned the agency around, and it’s now considered to be a major success. Public housing high rises—magnets for drugs and crime—have been demolished and replaced by townhouses. Complaints about Section 8 housing have disappeared.
But here’s what else has been going on during Greene’s tenure:
• Since 2004, six women have filed complaints against Greene with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, alleging sexual harassment, verbal abuse, retaliation, and sex discrimination. (Greene denies them.)
• Greene spent $1 million over the last two years for outside public relations experts, even though the agency has an in-house spokesperson.
• Four times a year, for the last several years, the PHA staff, outside lawyers and consultants were expected to pay up to $150 each for dinners at expensive restaurants in honor of Greene. According to the Inquirer,
There was an annual party to celebrate Greene’s birthday, one to mark his anniversary with the agency, another to laud his accomplishments, and, at Christmas, a breakfast at the Four Seasons Hotel.
Those gatherings were small compared with the bash PHA put together for Greene’s 10th anniversary on April 11, 2008. Hundreds of vendors, attorneys and “friend[s] of PHA” received letters asking them to donate $1,000 to $5,000 to Tenant Support Services Inc., a PHA nonprofit on which Greene has been a board member.
• In 2002, an audit by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development described Greene as a “demanding supervisor” who drove “a number of executive personnel” to quit.
• Employees say he’s created a culture of “fear and intimidation” at the PHA.
Transformation
What’s really strange about this case is how, back in 1998, Ed Rendell, then mayor of Philadelphia and now governor of Pennsylvania, worked so hard to hire Carl Greene. At the time, Greene was head of the Detroit Housing Commission, and one of his employees had accused him of sexual harassment. At first Greene turned down the Philadelphia job, but then accepted it. According to the Inquirer, he signed a three-year contract with an amazing stipulation:
If he were found liable of sexual harassment in Detroit, PHA could fire him – but would still have to pay the balance of his contract, then worth $160,000 a year.
“One simple reason,” Rendell said last week, when asked about that clause. “When I took over as chair of the Philadelphia Housing Authority, it was perhaps the worst public-housing authority in the nation. . . . I don’t think it’s an understatement to say now that PHA is the best in the nation.”
The transformation is due to Greene, whose work “has been stunning,” Rendell said. “He has done more to improve the lives of poor Philadelphians than anyone I know.”
Bloody daggers
Money problems, sexual harassment, self-promotion, and a management style based on bullying—Carl Greene sounds like a classic sociopath. Here’s what an Inquirer columnist wrote about him:
The rap on Greene was, and is, that he’s an effective egomaniac. A vicious visionary, a determined developer, a brutal boss ”¦ Politicians and advocates learned to accommodate the two Carls because he controlled zillions in federal money and the fate of the city’s most vulnerable residents.
In other words, according to his supporters, Carl Greene was getting the job done. If a few folks got steamrolled in the process, well, that was just collateral damage that they really didn’t want to know about.
When all these troubles came to light, what did Greene do? First, he disappeared—for several days, no one knew where he was. When he did talk to the media, he apologized for his personal failings.
He also said, “People with bloody daggers are doing whatever they can to finish me off.”
UPDATE:
Cost to settle sex-harassment cases against Philadelphia Housing chief near $900,000 on Philly.com.
In 2003, PHA planned to solicit big contractors on Philly.com.
Former Housing and Urban Development director ‘not surprised’ by Carl Greene’s troubles on Philly.com.
THis is the only pic of him I could find on the whole internet (odd in itself…) and guess what – he aint smiling! The other guy is though…. It’s my experience of these people that they rarely smile in photos or rather they all seem to have a similar ‘look’ on their face which normal people who don’t smile don’t have. http://www.pha.phila.gov/aboutpha%5CExecutive_Director%5CAwards.html
Everyone-
Why yes, Sociopaths are indeed productive. The are prolific and profligate patholigcal liars. They are prolific and profligate womanizers and manizers. They are prolific and profligate manipulators of your reality and skewers of the truth. They are prolific and profligate mind f**kers. So yes, spaths are the ultimate in productivity. Any questions?
This is my mind on Spath. (sound of egg frying) 🙁
Hello Kat,
And glad you posted! Of course you got shafted by the psychopath. He wanted the cuties not an employee that did her job. And it is a fact that sometimes hard work does NOT pay off. More times than not it does, but then you have situations like that one that nothing you could have done different or better would have helped you at all. If you are in the US you might look into an age discrimination law suit if you are over 50, but probably wouldn’t help you if you are under 50.
About all you can do in a situation like this is chalk it up up a “lesson in life” and move on, but hope you can find a better job working for better people. Glad you posted though, because this kind of thing is another aspect of the Ps we need to learn about.
Thanks for the Pic Genevieve, but it appears he has a SMIRK on his face instead of a smile. Interesting! How are you doing BTW? Good to see you posting!!!!
12. Run a large church. This is still working for the Rev. Tim Keller, who controlled my sex life for a short time and never even had to meet me.
13. Always demand that people give you credit for your work, even if it’s plagiarized. Keep that self-promotion machine humming!
14. If people catch you in a lie, point to your tragic past, and how your noble efforts to bring justice to this world have resulted in beatings. (No, it wasn’t at all because somebody even more psychopathic got tired of your act. Why would you ask a thing like that? Sob, sob.)
Separately, has anybody noticed the similarities between this Philadelphia Housing Authority guy and Rudy “Mayor Hardass” Giuliani? The former mayor of Detroit, who likely hired the Philadelphia goon, has his own problems, too. Look up “Kwame Kilpatrick.” Or is it “Kirkpatrick”?
Hey Kat, I just read your long post. You will find a job. My advice is, tell the truth about your former employer, with your chin up high.
For a while in the early 2000s recession, I had to settle for working as a receptionist in a real estate office. I accepted low pay and no benefits because I was ill and needed to stay close to home. It was pleasant for a while, and I liked most of the people I worked with — until I realized there was a serious culture of oppression there and I had to just get out.
I left things “pleasant” with my former employer by just probing her about what she didn’t want me to do, and we agreed to disagree that I had a different way of doing things.
Whew. OK, cleared that hurdle.
I looked around for a similar job in the neighborhood and was quickly called back by the two partners in a place down the street. They wanted to meet me for lunch, as an interview.
I rehearsed my answers carefully, so as not to give any hint that I’d had any “falling out” with, let’s call her, Rosemary. These people had even been her former partner, so I was especially on my guard.
And then they said, “Tell us what you really think.” What? “Come on, what did she do?” I was confused! They told me that, as Rosemary’s previous business partner, they had to actually go through group therapy to dissolve the partnership.
Holy cow. Rosemary is a well-known person in the community, active in historic preservation and other things, a real “productive psychopath.” And these people were still hurting from their encounter with her about 10 years later.
So I told them what I thought, honestly, and they offered me the job. (I turned them down later, but for other reasons.)
If you’ve dealt with a psychopath, come out with it. Tell it like it is. If you don’t get that job, you were not meant to get it.
I say this because, toward the end of that recession, I was going on interviews for legal secretarial positions. I take a lot of pride in my abilities in that area, and I can even deal with difficult, “high-powered” lawyers. But the first question was not, “How good are you at handling assertive lawyers?” but “How good are you at accommodating screamers?” My answer was, nobody screams at me. We solve the problem, and we don’t scream. Wrong answer!
I realized, if they’re asking me to be a doormat, I don’t need that job. (And I was, literally, not getting enough to eat at the time.) They’re right: I don’t have the right “personality” to deal with Mr. or Ms. Psychopath. But if you’re in business as an honest law firm, and you honestly need to get something done through an intelligent assistant who doesn’t break down in a combat situation, call.
It worked out fine for me. I got a job in another field, editing. And I was offered a salary commensurate with my abilities. Not a perfect place, and I get disciplined for hanging up the phone on screamers, but this place is hypersensitive to lawsuits.
Know your worth, Kat!
Lots of pictures of Carl Greene if you search Google images. He looks pretty normal to me. They have to look like they belong where they are. Interesting comment about the smiling.
Welcome, SiblingHell, don’t think I’ve seen you post before. I can tell from your screen name that you probably “qualify” for our little club. It’s not a club anyone would WANT to join, but if you qualify for member ship then you have arrived at the BEST PLACE available on the web.
Hope you will hang around and post more. Again, Welcome. God bless.
need some feedback please – the last couple of weeks when i read what i write i notice i am making lots of spelling and editting mistakes and my explanations seem to be missing bits and pieces. can anyone give me some feedback as to whether or not they are noticing these traits in my writing. i feel like i am losing it a bit..in as much as i think i am being clear and coherent then i re read and i am shocked at what i am seeing. my concern is if i am doing this here, then i may also be doing this at work.
i am started to get into some extreme anxiety around work – not getting the support i need, expectations are high but no ‘team’ to work with, no support from the director who seems to need to ponder a lot, but doesn’t get back to me (don’t know what the message is with that – he IS extremely busy running for a political office), and i think i am making some people mistakes. and part of the people mistakes are perhaps that i am not communicating well. (don’t feel so comfortable there) am eating myself in to a stupor at night.
god, i am just so overwhelmed on a daily basis. the jerk landlord is tlaking about painting the outside of the building – that WILL kill me. i walked in a doorway of a builidng that had a tiny bit of fresh pain this aft and my face went numb. i keep feeling the edge or life than i feel this damn nightmare again wherein everything is just ‘off’ and other things are truly dangerous. i am getting SO TIRED. just so tired.
Onestep – I will be blunt with you. When you first started blogging you were all over the place, very choppy and hard to follow. I have seen lot’s of improvement with your post. I have seen lot’s of improvements with your anger towards the spath episode. I think you are overwhelmed though. May I ask if you think you were ‘better’ before the spath encounter? I am worried about you and your health.. I will be very blunt again and ask for your forgiveness in advance if I offend you, Is this constant illness a plea for attention that you didnt get as a child? Maybe you should talk to a therapist about this, I am so worried about you and please dont be offended..I am blessed with good health and wish you were also…