Yesterday, Dr. Liane Leedom wrote that “false beliefs about sociopaths are very dangerous.” She quoted a judge who said:
“Well I tell you, the world is full of productive sociopaths. Some of them hold high public office. Some of them are lawyers. It could be that a couple of them are judges, and sociopathy by itself is not necessarily a dangerous condition. It can be productive. I think it was Clarence Darrow who commented on that”¦”
Today I’d like to present a case to prove her point.
Over the last 10 days, the Philadelphia Inquirer has been reporting about Carl Greene, the executive director of the Philadelphia Housing Authority (PHA).
The agency Green heads is the city’s biggest landlord, providing housing to 81,000 low-income residents. The PHA has a budget of $345 million per year, funded by the federal government, and 1,150 employees.
Greene, who was hired in 1998, currently earns $306,000 per year. But 10 days ago, it was revealed that his $615,000 townhouse was in foreclosure, and he owed the IRS $52,000 in back taxes.
And, one of his former employees has filed a sexual harassment lawsuit against him. The woman says Greene promised her a promotion, if she submitted to his sexual advances.
Greene’s tenure
Here’s where the “productive sociopath” comes in.
Before Greene was hired, the PHA had a history of waste, fraud and abuse. Greene turned the agency around, and it’s now considered to be a major success. Public housing high rises—magnets for drugs and crime—have been demolished and replaced by townhouses. Complaints about Section 8 housing have disappeared.
But here’s what else has been going on during Greene’s tenure:
• Since 2004, six women have filed complaints against Greene with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, alleging sexual harassment, verbal abuse, retaliation, and sex discrimination. (Greene denies them.)
• Greene spent $1 million over the last two years for outside public relations experts, even though the agency has an in-house spokesperson.
• Four times a year, for the last several years, the PHA staff, outside lawyers and consultants were expected to pay up to $150 each for dinners at expensive restaurants in honor of Greene. According to the Inquirer,
There was an annual party to celebrate Greene’s birthday, one to mark his anniversary with the agency, another to laud his accomplishments, and, at Christmas, a breakfast at the Four Seasons Hotel.
Those gatherings were small compared with the bash PHA put together for Greene’s 10th anniversary on April 11, 2008. Hundreds of vendors, attorneys and “friend[s] of PHA” received letters asking them to donate $1,000 to $5,000 to Tenant Support Services Inc., a PHA nonprofit on which Greene has been a board member.
• In 2002, an audit by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development described Greene as a “demanding supervisor” who drove “a number of executive personnel” to quit.
• Employees say he’s created a culture of “fear and intimidation” at the PHA.
Transformation
What’s really strange about this case is how, back in 1998, Ed Rendell, then mayor of Philadelphia and now governor of Pennsylvania, worked so hard to hire Carl Greene. At the time, Greene was head of the Detroit Housing Commission, and one of his employees had accused him of sexual harassment. At first Greene turned down the Philadelphia job, but then accepted it. According to the Inquirer, he signed a three-year contract with an amazing stipulation:
If he were found liable of sexual harassment in Detroit, PHA could fire him – but would still have to pay the balance of his contract, then worth $160,000 a year.
“One simple reason,” Rendell said last week, when asked about that clause. “When I took over as chair of the Philadelphia Housing Authority, it was perhaps the worst public-housing authority in the nation. . . . I don’t think it’s an understatement to say now that PHA is the best in the nation.”
The transformation is due to Greene, whose work “has been stunning,” Rendell said. “He has done more to improve the lives of poor Philadelphians than anyone I know.”
Bloody daggers
Money problems, sexual harassment, self-promotion, and a management style based on bullying—Carl Greene sounds like a classic sociopath. Here’s what an Inquirer columnist wrote about him:
The rap on Greene was, and is, that he’s an effective egomaniac. A vicious visionary, a determined developer, a brutal boss ”¦ Politicians and advocates learned to accommodate the two Carls because he controlled zillions in federal money and the fate of the city’s most vulnerable residents.
In other words, according to his supporters, Carl Greene was getting the job done. If a few folks got steamrolled in the process, well, that was just collateral damage that they really didn’t want to know about.
When all these troubles came to light, what did Greene do? First, he disappeared—for several days, no one knew where he was. When he did talk to the media, he apologized for his personal failings.
He also said, “People with bloody daggers are doing whatever they can to finish me off.”
UPDATE:
Cost to settle sex-harassment cases against Philadelphia Housing chief near $900,000 on Philly.com.
In 2003, PHA planned to solicit big contractors on Philly.com.
Former Housing and Urban Development director ‘not surprised’ by Carl Greene’s troubles on Philly.com.
Sistersister,
I am not sure whether i am of more that average intelligence. I really don’t know. I think most of my intellectual life has been stunted by exposure to spaths. Most of my younger life I tried to escape into the world of sitcoms where people seemed to laugh a lot(laugh track). The Dick Van Dyke show was a favorite…classic stuff, though a little dated.
Later I was taken in by the charm and seemingly easy going frivolity of the Beatles characterized in A Hard Day’s Night. I used these as escapes from the humorless spath experience that was my adolescent life. I spent many years dabbling in self help materials. Almost got snagged by Scientology(I escaped thanks to my college roomates), Employee assistance programs. Never any serious therapy.
My point is, finding out after all these years that I was not the major problem is unbelievably liberating. I have read enough about the spaths that, compared to a layman, I am well read on it, though I would not go up against Oxy and her numbers:)
It turns out I am not smart enough to go to bed when I need to or am supposed to;-)
The revelations continue.
Multiple cases of sexual harassment by Carl Greene, PHA director, were settled by the agency’s insurance company, apparently without the knowledge of the PHA board of directors.
Cost to settle sex-harassment cases against Philadelphia Housing chief near $900,000 on Philly.com.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/homepage/101540718.html
Funds raised by a charity associated with Carl Green were spent mostly on employee salaries and benefits.
In 2003, PHA planned to solicit big contractors on Philly.com.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/homepage/101540728.html
Carl Green’s reputation for sexual harassment and tirades were well-known in the public housing world.
Former Housing and Urban Development director ‘not surprised’ by Carl Greene’s troubles on Philly.com.
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/world_us/101540848.html
Dear Sibling Hell,
I hear your pain in your writing. I am sort of in a similar position “business wise” in that I live on the same farm with my maternal DNA donor, she is her house, me in mine—and the land and houses are tied up in a trust until she dies. I can’t sell, I can’t leave I can’t rent it out….but I AM NC except for RARE e mails on BUSINESS ONLY….so here I sit, but I will NOT have contact with her. I was raised that we stab each other in the back then we “pretend none of this ever happened” with things fall apart.
My two Biological sons, one age 39, one aged 40–the older I only have business contact via E mail, and the younger one, is in prison, and tried to have me killed by a friend of his. My DNA donor still supports him financially and emotionally. He is a card carrying Psychopath. The older one just an immature jerk.
Fortunately, I have an adopted son who is a great young man.
Many of us here have come from “nests of vipers” and have parents or siblings, spouses, or even children who are psychopaths, or even a combination of the above lists. There is a definite genetic link with psychopathy as well as some environmental.
We can’t change those people, or even work with them successfully most of the time, and NC may be very difficult, but coming as CLOSE TO IT as POSSIBLE is the only way to go in my opinion.
Good luck, and keep on reading here, posting and learning what you need to do to make yourself whole. YOu have a wonderful group of people behind you here for support! I couldn’t have made it without LF.
My guess is that all his “apparent success” in his job may turn out to be a FRAUD. Just like Bernie Madoff’s “success” with investing was a FRAUD. Hang’em all and let God sort them out! UGH!!!!!
Ox and bluejay,
Moving shouldn’t be a problem as my lease is month to month. I’m fed up with those with the power not using it in the right way. And yes, I will be knocking on doors before I move again and asking questions about new neighbors. It’s sad because this was a beautiful little neighborhood that kids ran free in and it was known to be very safe.
This whole incident shook everyone to the core, not just because it happened, but because it could have been prevented if certain people had not had their heads up certain arses.
I am having someone talk with my son about this incident so that he can lay his head down at night and feel safe and I am documenting all of it. Right now, he is very clingy and jumps at any loud noise.
Document, document, document, something I learned the importance of right here on LF.
Yes, Ox, REHAB at the very least..but we’ll see. It should be in the news today what the next steps will be. We are SUPPOSED to be notified if he is released but that doesn’t mean we will be.
We are writing letters to the mayor, the prosecuting attorney’s office, the judge and the association directors here, ALL of which played a part in this man being allowed to do what he did.
Donna, just read one of the articles on Mr. Greene..
“He consistently talked about how he was more powerful than the board,” Jackson said.
Hello! Does the above not scream narcissism and no one KNEW he had settled 4 cases out of court? What strikes me as very interesting about all of this is that if Mr. Greene were some ordinary citizen in our country, the guy getting up every morning, going to work and was slapped with these charges, there would be no pay-offs and no excuses. The guy would be in jail or on probation at the least. It’s back to those who abuse power again.
Yes, Ox, hang them all and let someone else sort it out!
Dear Cat,
I live in a very rural area, but we have come people in our area that are kind of like “Deliverance” and they don’t like outsiders moving on to their mountain. If I bought land and moved up there I would PROBABLY (no guarantee) have little if any problems because I am “from here” (local.) But I have known of outsiders who bought land here to retire to that were DRIVEN from their lands, houses burned, pushed off the roads in their cars, etc. Terrorized.
I’ve lived in apartments where there was one TERRORIST in the neighborhood (not international terrorist, just neighborhood variety) and so a few well placed questions might help you out before you move.
We have a nut job from outside the community who moved here about 15 years ago. I’m not afraid of him, I leave him alone and he leaves me alone—“Mexican stand off” more or less. Is universally hated by the neighbors. I’ve also got some pretty “rough redneck” neighbors (in the worst sense of the words) but they know I don’t take any carp, but that I don’t give any either, so they are actually good neighbors to me now. My horse got out the other night and they brought her home and let me know. I’d do the same for them. l Have done the same for them.
The CRAZY neighbor, if his horse got out, I’d call the sheriff and notify them, but I wouldn’t go up to his house (I’m not crazy) especially in the middle of the night.
Yes, I agree with you, the politicos and their appointees have a “law unto themselves” it seems and very SPECIAL privileges over the rest of us peons and surfs.
Yes, many times, sociopathic type behavior sits in executive offices and appears so competent and professional and they are as long as it is in their terms and they are getting what they want, when they want it.
http://blog.womenexplode.com/2010/08/20/truth-or-lie.aspx
I would love to see a section the Sociopath in the workplace.
They destroy companies, careers and reputations.
Dear Speakout, oh, yes, you are sooooo right! If you haven’/t read Dr. Bob Hare’s book “Snakes in Suits” please do. I have seen them destroy whole large corporations. Welcome, BTW! Glad you found your way here!
Siblinghell- what you say about pity jumped out at me from your post and just want to say how true that feels from here, in hindsight I can see every time I extended pity to the P he began to really gain control…capitalised on it…got right in you say:
“As the author said in ’the psychopath next door’ , they want pity above all. If you give them pity, they control you.”
pitying someone disempowers (normal people anyway) it can increase feelings of helplessness and victim feelings…but for a psychopath pity is like their oxygen, they grow muscles and thrive on it…they will take all you have to give and think you are an idiot for doing it….the more you give them the more they despise you in a very powerful abusive exploitative way.
I give up pitying…end of. You will not find me saying ever again oh you poor thing…let me help you…or when I do…I’m ready to say goodbye to my energy with the wrong person. You will feel an instant draining….followed by being exploited, robbed, manipulated..taken for a mug
But you could stand back and say…you poor thing…help YOURSELF