What is the single most powerful signifier of sociopathy?
How about, lack of empathy?
I don’t think so.
As an isolated factor, I don’t think lack of empathy best nails the sociopath.
Many millions of people, after all, lack empathy and aren’t sociopaths. Also, exactly what constitutes empathy is a subject of some disagreement. Some LoveFraud members, in fact, question whether sociopaths even lack empathy (some asserting, to the contrary, that the sociopaths they’ve known have used their capacity for empathy to exploit them).
But the biggest problem with lack of empathy is its weakeness in explaining the single, truly best signifier of sociopathy—the characterological exploitiveness of the sociopath.
It is a high level of exploitiveness that most singularly exposes the sociopath.
Now exploitiveness is also associated with the narcissistic personality. For this reason extremely destructive (“malignant”) narcissists can be hard to distinguish from sociopaths. Still, a high level of exploitiveness is rarely the single best signifier of narcissistic personality disorder, whereas it is, I suggest, the best single indicator of sociopathy.
Why does lack of empathy fail to explain the sociopath’s exploitiveness? It fails because most people who lack empathy are not exploitive. Just consider the autistic spectrum disorders: Lack of empathy is commonly associated with these disorders, but exploitive behavior is not.
Now it is true that empathic individuals will generally be nonexploitive. Why? Because their empathy will prove a deterrent against exploitative impulses or ideas. Empathy, in other words, surely is a powerful deterrent against exploitation.
But in someone nonexploitative (someone, say, with Asperger’s Syndrome), empathy will not be needed for its deterrent effect. However, in someone inclined to exploitation, lack of empathy will be a missing deterrent in a situation where deterrence is urgent.
Effectively, the sociopath’s exploitive nature is undeterred by empathy, which is missing, thus liberating him to exploit. And it is the sociopath’s tendency, or compulsion, to exploit, I propose, that best characterizes his sociopathy.
I’d be remiss not to clarify my working definition of empathy. Empathy, as I use it, is an experience, or appreciation, of another’s experience that, depending on the situation, elicits a thoughtful, respectful, perhaps nurturing, but never exploitive, response.
While some sociopaths may possess an evolved capacity to read others’ vulnerabilities, this doesn’t make them empathic.
It is the particular response to someone’s vulnerability that indicates the presence of empathy, or exploitation. It is the particular response, or pattern of responses, to someone’s vulnerability that separates the empathic individual from the predator.
In this respect, I regard the sociopath as seriously, and given his exploitive personality, dangerously deficient in empathy.
What about his remorselessness? Certainly the sociopath’s remorselessness is quite notable and diagnostically significant. However, I would argue that the sociopath’s remorselessness is a byproduct not of his lack of empathy, but of his exploitive personality.
Many people who lack empathy are remorseful, for instance when informed that an action they took, or something they said, left someone else feeling damaged. They may struggle to relate emotionally (or even intellectually) to the effect their behavior had on the wounded party (their deficient empathy); but they are upset to learn that their action caused damage.
In other words, they feel remorseful even though their empathy is deficient.
However, exploitation and remorselessness go hand in hand. The essence of exploitation is the intentional violation of another’s vulnerability. The exploiter knows, on some level, that his behavior is exploitive.
By definition, the exploiter is grossly indifferent to the damaging effect of his behavior on his victim. All that matters is his perceived gain, his demanded, greedy satisfaction. There is indifference to the loss and damage to others resulting from his self-centered, aggressive behaviors.
This sounds a lot like callousness; and we recognize callousness as another of the sociopath’s telling qualities. But I would suggest, again, that the sociopath’s callousness derives not from his defective empathy, but rather from his characterological exploitiveness. Most people with deficits in empathy are not callous. On the other hand, the exploitive mentality will engender a callous perspective.
I discussed in a prior post the audacity of the sociopath. I suggested a correspondence between audacity and sociopathy. But here, too, we want to get the causality correct: audacity doesn’t make for sociopathy; but the exploitive mentality will make for staggering audacity.
(My use of “he” in this post is for convenience’s sake, not to suggest that men have a patent on sociopathy. This article is copyrighted (c) 2008 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
Ok Then
PS
Do you feel then that you h ave a concience, to care how another human being is feeling over your own selfwill?
Indi,
Funny, though, my African Gray parrot, Oliver, just LOVED THE TROJAN HORSE PSYCHOPATH! LOL The only thing I can figure out is that the bird knew that the TH-P wasn’t afraid of him. Oliver was hand fed by a woman and generally prefers women to men, but I think the fact that the TH-P was in no way afraid may have been the thing, plus he sucked up to the bird with food the bird liked.
The bird never learned to say anything in the TH-P’s voice which is good—he has already picked up C’s voice on several things and repeats them endlessly. Calling the dog and whistling for him. He still has several phrases he says in my late husband’s voice and we joke that my husband is “channeling through” the bird–because they are always used APPROPRIATELY which is funny. Even if he says a “cuss word” (he only knows 2, one in my voice and one in my husband’s voice and seldom uses them, but when he does, it is ALWAYS appropriate and when he is mad about something)
If you make the bird mad he will not “get over it” until he gets a chance to bite you, fortunately he doesn’t get mad often or at just “nothing.” It is like he HAS to bite you though before he can forgive you, even if it takes afew days until he gets a chance to bite, but once he does, it is all over. I just make sure he gets a chance to bite a heavy shirt, not my finger or my arm. LOL Gotta be smarter than the bird, but it isn’t always easy to do that! LOL
Ok well that is complicated, in certain situations I DO have a consience. I CAN put myself in others shoes but it usually only to try to understand what they are feeling, while knowing in the back of my head that it does not really matter as I am not literally in their shoes. For instance you see someone on TV in the wrong place at the wrong time and having something terrible happen to them, you consiously think of how terrible you would feel had you been in that situation but 5 minutes later those feelings dont really matter as you are not in that situation, and probably never will. Now when it comes down to mine or someone elses discomfort or suffereing I will always seek to put myself first, as that is the way of nature and survival. Kids starving in Africa? Not my concern as it does not affect me.
PleasedSociopath said: “There are a few websites on the internet dedicated to people like us, places for us to share our stories, and experiences with one another. That is where I actually learned of this site……What better place to find new and interesting tactics to use against our victims?…..If anyone has any questions for me ….Better to get the info from the horses mouth rather than sit here and speculate, right?”———
Although alot of victims don’t have the stomach for reading the above sites you mentioned, I have actually read quite a few of them. So, I must say, I found “your” sites quite helpful in getting insight into the sociopathic/psychopathic mindset, and put some of that insight into practice in dealing with my ex, just as you said you guys seem to find our site “helpful” to you.—–
PS said: “You people should try and focus on protecting potential victims of sociopathic abuse.”——
Assuming you are still bored and would like to answer, what would be the one piece of advice you would give “on protecting potential victims of sociopathic abuse.”
I would say the very best line of defense versus a sociopathic person is to use the very same things they use against them. The act of writing them off immediatly and never having contact and never letting them realize they have gotten to you in the least bit will have THEM comfused as to why their tactics diddnt work on you and leave THEM sitting and thinking about the “one who got away”. Most people dont like to stoop to others level when trying to deal with them but in this situation I think it would be ablost impossible without doing it. You dont have to adopt such an attitude for every aspect of your life but when you realize your dealing with someone who fits the bill I would say start to treat THEM in the same exact way they treat everyone ONLY when forced to deal with them, and then write them off and avoid ALL contact with them.
Sociopath, you have contradicted yourself several times already, which is one of the hallmarks of a sociopath…by DEFINITION a sociopath/psychopath doesn’t have a conscience or empathy, otherwise the aren’t one. You also said you victimize people, but you are a “nice person”—again the contradictions, left brain and right brain not seeing the contradictions. Typical, doesn’t “get it”—but WE do. Whatever your REAL “purpose” is here–to relieve your boredom, etc.–the one thing we can know for sure is that it is NOT for our benefit but simply to “prove” that you are smarter than we are. That you can piss us off, make us grind our teeth, or possbily try to “convert” you…which is first of all impossible, because you like yourself just fine…even though you “victimize” others, you don’t do “horrible” things, like murder or child rape, just “mean” things emotionally or financially. What a paragon of virtue you are. LOL Thanks for telling us what we should be doing here and how the Ps on your sites laugh at us and use our stories. I should care how I am laughed at by Ps on their sites? That should concern me? Hardly! Troll on. Sorry, but you just don’t “get it” and never will. You lack something the rest of us have, can’t even comprehend what it is, will never find it, wouldn’t know it if you saw it, vcouldn’t appreciate the value of it if you did see it, so you substitute an adreneline rush for the real thing–love. The Biblical prohibition to not “cast your pearls before swine” fits the P completely, the P cannot appreciate the “pearls” of love any more than a swine can appreciate real pearls. Tossing pearls before a P or a swine is the same thing, useless and wasteful. Sorry, Charlie, you just don’t get it.
Well as you have said on this site before the actual DEFINITION of sociopath is vage and not proven. Maby its that we have a consience yet we choose to ignore it when it is convienent for us? I also stated that I am a nice person, or so it would seem. That fact is based on opinion really and my opinion of what kind of person I am is pretty irrelevant. What I have done in the past is of no importance to who I am now, just because someone commits urder does not mean they cant repent and change their ways.
Also I am a believer that there are a drastic array of sociopaths and no two are alike. Its hard to base a stereotype off something that can varry so much.
And also again Im not here to make you grit your teeth, you have S in you life to make you do that. As everyone here has been daaged by someone like that.
First of all, PS, let me just say that I do not believe you’re NOT a murderer, child molester or thief. If you truly are a sociopath, you do things that please you. The Bad Woman swears up and down she’s not a child molester. She doesn’t hang out at parks or schoolyards trolling for victims, but her mind is pleasure-oriented, centering on sex. She raises her children around sex, and when she’s not getting it from a man, she takes it from her son. That is a child molester. Sociopaths have such twisted ways of reasoning. If you want it, you take it. And you don’t care either way. If a thief broke into your house, you’d kill him and not care one bit. A normal person would feel guilty, shaken, wonder if there was some other way.
Second, you and your cronies laugh at us. I read something just this morning that struck a chord with me. It said, “Don’t worry about what others think of you. That’s not your problem.” I don’t care about your retarded websites dedicated to you useless schemes. Your lives are worthless and futile, and when you’re gone, you’ll have nothing to show for it. You have no hope for the future and nothing to live for. So I don’t care what you think of me. I have hope. I try to be kind and compassionate to people, not to manipulate them, but to rise above the shallowness of the world we live. You stay in your shallow water. I prefer the deep end.
This website is dedicated to helping people. If everybody sank to a sociopath’s level, there would be anarchy. We would all end up dead. So we’re not the ones needing to change. ANTI-SOCIALS are. (Getting off soapbox).