What is the single most powerful signifier of sociopathy?
How about, lack of empathy?
I don’t think so.
As an isolated factor, I don’t think lack of empathy best nails the sociopath.
Many millions of people, after all, lack empathy and aren’t sociopaths. Also, exactly what constitutes empathy is a subject of some disagreement. Some LoveFraud members, in fact, question whether sociopaths even lack empathy (some asserting, to the contrary, that the sociopaths they’ve known have used their capacity for empathy to exploit them).
But the biggest problem with lack of empathy is its weakeness in explaining the single, truly best signifier of sociopathy—the characterological exploitiveness of the sociopath.
It is a high level of exploitiveness that most singularly exposes the sociopath.
Now exploitiveness is also associated with the narcissistic personality. For this reason extremely destructive (“malignant”) narcissists can be hard to distinguish from sociopaths. Still, a high level of exploitiveness is rarely the single best signifier of narcissistic personality disorder, whereas it is, I suggest, the best single indicator of sociopathy.
Why does lack of empathy fail to explain the sociopath’s exploitiveness? It fails because most people who lack empathy are not exploitive. Just consider the autistic spectrum disorders: Lack of empathy is commonly associated with these disorders, but exploitive behavior is not.
Now it is true that empathic individuals will generally be nonexploitive. Why? Because their empathy will prove a deterrent against exploitative impulses or ideas. Empathy, in other words, surely is a powerful deterrent against exploitation.
But in someone nonexploitative (someone, say, with Asperger’s Syndrome), empathy will not be needed for its deterrent effect. However, in someone inclined to exploitation, lack of empathy will be a missing deterrent in a situation where deterrence is urgent.
Effectively, the sociopath’s exploitive nature is undeterred by empathy, which is missing, thus liberating him to exploit. And it is the sociopath’s tendency, or compulsion, to exploit, I propose, that best characterizes his sociopathy.
I’d be remiss not to clarify my working definition of empathy. Empathy, as I use it, is an experience, or appreciation, of another’s experience that, depending on the situation, elicits a thoughtful, respectful, perhaps nurturing, but never exploitive, response.
While some sociopaths may possess an evolved capacity to read others’ vulnerabilities, this doesn’t make them empathic.
It is the particular response to someone’s vulnerability that indicates the presence of empathy, or exploitation. It is the particular response, or pattern of responses, to someone’s vulnerability that separates the empathic individual from the predator.
In this respect, I regard the sociopath as seriously, and given his exploitive personality, dangerously deficient in empathy.
What about his remorselessness? Certainly the sociopath’s remorselessness is quite notable and diagnostically significant. However, I would argue that the sociopath’s remorselessness is a byproduct not of his lack of empathy, but of his exploitive personality.
Many people who lack empathy are remorseful, for instance when informed that an action they took, or something they said, left someone else feeling damaged. They may struggle to relate emotionally (or even intellectually) to the effect their behavior had on the wounded party (their deficient empathy); but they are upset to learn that their action caused damage.
In other words, they feel remorseful even though their empathy is deficient.
However, exploitation and remorselessness go hand in hand. The essence of exploitation is the intentional violation of another’s vulnerability. The exploiter knows, on some level, that his behavior is exploitive.
By definition, the exploiter is grossly indifferent to the damaging effect of his behavior on his victim. All that matters is his perceived gain, his demanded, greedy satisfaction. There is indifference to the loss and damage to others resulting from his self-centered, aggressive behaviors.
This sounds a lot like callousness; and we recognize callousness as another of the sociopath’s telling qualities. But I would suggest, again, that the sociopath’s callousness derives not from his defective empathy, but rather from his characterological exploitiveness. Most people with deficits in empathy are not callous. On the other hand, the exploitive mentality will engender a callous perspective.
I discussed in a prior post the audacity of the sociopath. I suggested a correspondence between audacity and sociopathy. But here, too, we want to get the causality correct: audacity doesn’t make for sociopathy; but the exploitive mentality will make for staggering audacity.
(My use of “he” in this post is for convenience’s sake, not to suggest that men have a patent on sociopathy. This article is copyrighted (c) 2008 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
Just got done reading the posts from the self-proclaimed “S’…sounds more like a f**ked up and misinformed Narcissist to me…Claims he doesn’t have an explosive temper which is THE HALLMARK of a genuine “S”…I vote we go NC with the creep.. Don’t give him the a**hole the spotlight he craves…
Elizabeth Conley & Wini:
“What if, just what if we can get this guy to break through some of his walls?”
“I don’t think we are going to help an N/P/S. I once operated under the assumption that anyone could change if they wanted to.”
I’m with Elizabeth on this one. As “Without Conscience” and “The Sociopath Next Door” made abundantly clear to me, Sociopaths are perfectly content with their interior landscape. They don’t want to change. Whether they are in prison, bankrupt, at death’s door — no change.
When things were skidding downhill with my S, I asked my therapist, who heads up the residency at one of the major hospitals in the US for a referral to the residents training program for the S. This was therapy at a bargain rate — sliding scale. He would have gotten the S into the program gratis.
Oh, S made the right sounds about going into therapy when he realized he was working my last nerve and I was about to walk. But the truth really came out the night I drove him off. He said “And you’re always pushing the resident’s training program. My ex made me go to that and it was worthless!”
When I told me therapist that he said “Oh, so S is persona-no-grata at our place.”
Like you, Elizabeth, I am bitter. I am an extremely generous man, but from here on in, my generosity has to be earned — and that’s only after I see you have made a concerted effort to start making changes in yourself. Learned that lesson the hard way.
Bottom line — they don’t want to change. Punto.
Dear Kathy,
Did you like Grand Torino? I’ve seen the ads for it and wanted to see it, but haven’t had a chance yet.
Stormee, you’ve got my “vote” kiddo! I’m done with the smuck! Won’t even read anything he writes if he comes back.
I’m savy enough to realize that “anyone” can look in or lurk, or post here under any pretense that they want to, but over all I think that most of the people here are “genuine” former victims…though I have suspected at times that there would be a P or N posting as a victim who wasn’t—and the odd “nut case” or two, but even if there were/are those here, they don’t make me feel any less safe.
If someone gets abusive on the blog, Donna takes care of it, very well, I might add. There is less flaming here on this site than any I have ever been on…and I think it is because in general except for the odd N or P that tries to get their jollies poking trash at us to gloat, this site attracts a “higher caliber” of blogger—caring people who are intelligent and working on healing themselves, people who are trying to figure out “what train/truck hit me”—and the information posted in the articles here is excellent. So they lurk or look in—let them laugh as far as I am concerned, in the end, WE WIN because we are NOT THEM. We talk about how our lives are getting better, and form bonds with each other in care and concern. What do they do, brag about their “scores” with the “sheeple.” I think sometimes it isn’t a “win” for them unless they can have someone to brag to about it. How shallow and sick that is. YUK!
hi all,
haven’t posted in several days. was reading the thread with the self proclaimed psychopath …
didn’t believe ONE word he said. mostly a narcissist, don’t believe for a second that he has a conscience. basically he’s looking to be the center of attention, which he briefly managed to do.
his perfectly-versed writing, his contentions that he never ‘abused’ anyone in his life, his claims of fidelity. LIE, LIE, LIE.
another loser who, if he’s really ‘not trolling’, needs to get a life. if he’s so settled into who he is, what’s he doing here?
ignore the guy. he’s hardly worth the energy of fingers hitting the keys. asking him questions? for what purpose? to hear more lies from a sociopath/narcissist — whatever emotionally-deformed type he is. just another dispicable false representation of a human.
not one word he said was true. just trying to get a rise out ya’all.
peace and good night.
I just say “Potted plant”, although a coworker yesterday said that also a potted plant needs care and grows better if talked to…
Dear E.Conley, I am completely with you that it is neither in our ability nor power to change ANYBODY besides ourselves, it would be in fact very narcissistic of myself to think I could change a narcissistic!!! It took me a long time to find out that THIS was MY main problem. Now I feel much better. Your link about character was very helpful for me to distinguish between personality, character and behaviour. It is like a cloth, you can change the color of the cloth but you can’t change the FABRIC if there is a wrong thread in it without destroying the cloth.
The pleased sociopath reminded me completely of my father, and it could have been HIM to write the entries. I felt very uneasy reading it. He sees himself as a basically good person, but wants have some fun, has had a bad upbringing, and can’t help everybody is craving for him, and is not even provoking or searching for it (therefore he considers himself not harmful as HE IS THE VICTIM). But on the other hand the hunt is VERY interesting, but as soon the catch is done the thrill vanishes and the next hunt has to start. It is so very interesting! My father always said: know one woman, know them all; say to them how unic they are and then treat them as all the others. I could add: know ONE S/N/P, know them all, it is just variants of the same basic tune; treat them like all the others (potted plant, i.e.).
My father also wanted to teach us lessons (to my sister and me), and told us about the hunting tactics of bad men, and he was eager that we did not fall for the “wrong” men! (protecting the property?) He is now 79 years old, still hunting, still pleased with his life. He also knows about all the women craving for him, and he feigns not paying attention making the women crave even more; they are despised for the humiliating craving; I just feel nausea thinking about it.
I have already learned my lesson and I do not need anybody forcefeed me lessons. Potted plant! Namaste and Towanda! And you all have a wonderful weekend.
Good Morning Everybody – went out last night (been doing that a lot, which feels good), and came back to read what you guys had to say (one of my favorite things to do).
I am so glad to hear that everybody (just about) agrees on the NC with the self-proclaimed S. We have been blogging day after day about how they are pathological liars, contact with them is always negative, they have no conscience and regard for our well-being, and we should make maintaining NC the absolute number one priority.
Why, on earth, would we engage with one on this site? There is nothing to gain. Why wouldn’t any one think, for a second, that the S would share anything “truthful” that might be of help for us?
And, as people have mentioned, he’s may not even be a Sociopath. Whatever he is, he is someone seeking attention, and is not here for our benefit.
We have learned nothing if we are going to engage a sociopath and think it is going to benefit us in any way.
I’m sure they come onto this site – there have been several times I have read posts, and wondered if that was a sociopath engaging. Usually the person ended up to seem okay later.
But if they come and post pretending to be a legitimate survivor, there is nothing we can do but accept everybody until they prove to not be who they are.
But if someone comes on the site and declares himself a sociopath – and we engage – then we are still the victims we are trying not to be.
If he comes back – I will simply ignore him and will not even participate in a thread where he is blogging. He’ll get tired of us if we’re not engaging…or if only one or two folk are engaging, but clearly the bulk of LF people are not.
It makes me feel good for us, and makes me feel safe, to know that we are learning our lessons, firming up our boundaries which were not so firm before, and saying “no thank you – not us – not this time” to this guy.
Agreeeed
NC Honestly I believe I would gain greater wisdom from Oliver :)~
Too bad these superior S/P types never learned to manipulate a dictionary or grammar book. Sheesh. What a pantload.
HA! I love it!
kerisee04,
“Honestly, I don’t even know why my husband tries with her folks. I’M NOT GOING TO LET HIM ANYMORE, though. It’s pointless. Her mom is every bit as much of a Sociopath as she is. She’d rather stay in the dark.
But the Bad Woman TELLS EVERYBODY that he still has feelings for her and THAT HE CAN’T GET OVER HER, even though it’s completely the other way around. How do I let this stuff slide? HE’S MY HUSBAND!
Lemme see here…
(1) …”I’M NOT GOING TO LET HIM…”
(2) She “…TELLS EVERYONE…”
(3) “HE’S MY HUSBAND!”
Please listen to your words as if there were someone elses. What would you say to this other woman?
Wow! What to say about the “Church”. Having foresworn cursing does have its occasional disadvantages!
“Well, long story short, she has been disfellowshipped from our congregation because of her cheating, lying, etc. Her parents are still part of the congregation, as are we. As such, we should not have contact with her unless she physically cannot take care of herself, or she is making efforts to get reinstated, right? Ya’ll with me? It’s that way in order to keep the congregation clean. Well, her folks have been under the impression that she’s been working hard to get reinstated. So my hubby lets them know whenever we find out about a new guy, because we feel they have the right to know who exactly she is. Well, he told them tonight about this new guy. When her mom called her about it…’
Recommendation # 1
Join a more conventional Christian Church.
Recommendation # 2
Appreciate your husband as a coequal partner in your marriage and an esteemed Brother in Christ.
Recommendation # 3
Never comment on your husband’s ex wife’s behavior or character to anyone she knows, particularly her parents and/or the congregation of that “church”.
Recommendation # 4
Be kind and supportive toward his children’s maternal grandparents. Nurture the relationship between the children and their maternal grandparents without commenting on their mother/daughter’s character.
Blessings Dear Lady. These things will seem easier if you chose to follow one or two of these recommendations.