What is the single most powerful signifier of sociopathy?
How about, lack of empathy?
I don’t think so.
As an isolated factor, I don’t think lack of empathy best nails the sociopath.
Many millions of people, after all, lack empathy and aren’t sociopaths. Also, exactly what constitutes empathy is a subject of some disagreement. Some LoveFraud members, in fact, question whether sociopaths even lack empathy (some asserting, to the contrary, that the sociopaths they’ve known have used their capacity for empathy to exploit them).
But the biggest problem with lack of empathy is its weakeness in explaining the single, truly best signifier of sociopathy—the characterological exploitiveness of the sociopath.
It is a high level of exploitiveness that most singularly exposes the sociopath.
Now exploitiveness is also associated with the narcissistic personality. For this reason extremely destructive (“malignant”) narcissists can be hard to distinguish from sociopaths. Still, a high level of exploitiveness is rarely the single best signifier of narcissistic personality disorder, whereas it is, I suggest, the best single indicator of sociopathy.
Why does lack of empathy fail to explain the sociopath’s exploitiveness? It fails because most people who lack empathy are not exploitive. Just consider the autistic spectrum disorders: Lack of empathy is commonly associated with these disorders, but exploitive behavior is not.
Now it is true that empathic individuals will generally be nonexploitive. Why? Because their empathy will prove a deterrent against exploitative impulses or ideas. Empathy, in other words, surely is a powerful deterrent against exploitation.
But in someone nonexploitative (someone, say, with Asperger’s Syndrome), empathy will not be needed for its deterrent effect. However, in someone inclined to exploitation, lack of empathy will be a missing deterrent in a situation where deterrence is urgent.
Effectively, the sociopath’s exploitive nature is undeterred by empathy, which is missing, thus liberating him to exploit. And it is the sociopath’s tendency, or compulsion, to exploit, I propose, that best characterizes his sociopathy.
I’d be remiss not to clarify my working definition of empathy. Empathy, as I use it, is an experience, or appreciation, of another’s experience that, depending on the situation, elicits a thoughtful, respectful, perhaps nurturing, but never exploitive, response.
While some sociopaths may possess an evolved capacity to read others’ vulnerabilities, this doesn’t make them empathic.
It is the particular response to someone’s vulnerability that indicates the presence of empathy, or exploitation. It is the particular response, or pattern of responses, to someone’s vulnerability that separates the empathic individual from the predator.
In this respect, I regard the sociopath as seriously, and given his exploitive personality, dangerously deficient in empathy.
What about his remorselessness? Certainly the sociopath’s remorselessness is quite notable and diagnostically significant. However, I would argue that the sociopath’s remorselessness is a byproduct not of his lack of empathy, but of his exploitive personality.
Many people who lack empathy are remorseful, for instance when informed that an action they took, or something they said, left someone else feeling damaged. They may struggle to relate emotionally (or even intellectually) to the effect their behavior had on the wounded party (their deficient empathy); but they are upset to learn that their action caused damage.
In other words, they feel remorseful even though their empathy is deficient.
However, exploitation and remorselessness go hand in hand. The essence of exploitation is the intentional violation of another’s vulnerability. The exploiter knows, on some level, that his behavior is exploitive.
By definition, the exploiter is grossly indifferent to the damaging effect of his behavior on his victim. All that matters is his perceived gain, his demanded, greedy satisfaction. There is indifference to the loss and damage to others resulting from his self-centered, aggressive behaviors.
This sounds a lot like callousness; and we recognize callousness as another of the sociopath’s telling qualities. But I would suggest, again, that the sociopath’s callousness derives not from his defective empathy, but rather from his characterological exploitiveness. Most people with deficits in empathy are not callous. On the other hand, the exploitive mentality will engender a callous perspective.
I discussed in a prior post the audacity of the sociopath. I suggested a correspondence between audacity and sociopathy. But here, too, we want to get the causality correct: audacity doesn’t make for sociopathy; but the exploitive mentality will make for staggering audacity.
(My use of “he” in this post is for convenience’s sake, not to suggest that men have a patent on sociopathy. This article is copyrighted (c) 2008 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
and yes, the single most powerful sign of sociopathy may well be lack of empathy.
I just met someone who convinced me. Congratulations Kerisee. I’m pretty stubborn, but you won me over.
Elizabeth:
I guess there’s something to be said for the term “lost in translation.” I’m confused- maybe I’m just retarded- but if I said something to upset you I’m sorry. That was not my intent.
I bet you really mean that Kerisee. At least, with all my heart I want to believe it. When I realized you posted back, I prayed to God to grant me discernment before I read.
I’m begging you to trust the two people on this site who have told you that your family’s interactions with your husband’s ex-wife’s family are unnecessarily detrimental to all concerned. Really and truly, there’s a lot of pain there. Be kind to these people, particularly his ex-wife’s mother.
You and your husband are probably not the right people to raise up and restore their daughter. Let go. Let God. Please. He will handle this.
Ox Drover is a kind and gentle lady, far gentler than I am. Please listen to her cogent advice.
In the meantime, I may have one useful tool for you.
The Karpman Drama Triangle:
http://www.truthortradition.com/modules.php?file=article&name=News&sid=229
I pray that you will be infinitely blessed in the year to come. Bright Blessings to You and Yours!
In Christ,
Elizabeth
– Yeah, I really am taking a 1 week time out.
Love to All!
You will be missed.
Disfellowshipping? More like Cult Terrorism. The creepiest post I have read in over a year.
Kerisee:
I have to admit I sometimes get some of the poster details mixed up, so there is probably something I am missing that was mentioned in a past post –I’m thinking you are the poster who has the small child the ex wife possibly sexually abused and you and spouse are either trying to get custody or curtail her visitation???? If so, I do see the problem you are having with the ex wife, why you feel anger towards her, and why you have issues with her regarding the children.
However, in just looking at the surface of this txt messaging, I don’t get why your husband is creating all this drama by telling his ex-in-laws who their daughter (his ex) is dating, unless it involves something really detremental to the kids (like dating a drug dealer or something). Because unless the man or men in question is presenting some kind of harm to the kids, it is absolutely none of your husband’s business who she sees, or even if she dates a different man each week. Lots of people date around, and from your post it sounds like she is now single? And single people date and have men over for dinner….
I mean, maybe with more detail as to why he is telling her parents and sister, all this stuff it might look different. but on the surface to me it just looks like big time meddling by your husband (meaning I can see why the ex is telling him to just get over her blah blah) that would have even me (and I’m fairly laid back) wanting to tell him to F**k off and mind his own business.
I also understand your not wanting to change your religion, but changing churches is not changing religion. It’d be worth a drive to me just not to be in the same church with the ex and all the in-laws. Of course, I suppose one has to choose–same church and constant drama and chaos—or drive to a different church (you can find the SAme denomination) and eleminate the constant chaos of interacting with the socio and all her family.
Again, sorry if I have missed an earlier post that gives more of an explanation as to the problem with the ex wife dating.
kerisee,
As we heal and become more aware of warning signs and where they can lead, one of the most difficult things we face is watching someone else walk into danger. What I gather from your posts is that you’re trying to protect your step-children’s grandparents from grief. And you’re doing it with the interests of your step-children at heart.
The problem with this, as you’re probably recognizing, is that it keeps you and your husband in a constantly high level of drama. And involved with her and her family at a level that is arguably none of your business. Most people would think that the ex has a right to date whoever she wants and to have privacy. Whatever her deal with her parents, most people would think that you are not responsible for protecting or informing them unless they have specifically requested it.
I realize that the repercussions of her actions spill over to your family. But you can’t control her, either directly or indirectly through her parents. Your husband married this woman and had children with her. You can’t avoid the repercussions of being involved with children of this marriage, unless the two of you decide to grab the kids and go underground. You’re in a bad situation, but trying to control other adults’ decisions and behavior, unless you have some serious legal or financial leverage, is probably just going to make you two crazier, especially if those other adults are sociopaths or are emotionally involved with sociopaths.
The people who need attention in this drama are you, your husband and the children. You and your husband are failing to break free of this woman’s influence on your lives. Not your children’s lives, but yours.
If you’re husband doesn’t stop engaging with her and her family, she might was well be living with you. There is only one thing that connects you with her now, and that is the children. If you feel her children are unsafe or uncared-for, probably your only option is a legal assault. Not try to control her, because it won’t work, but to get the kids away from her.
To do that requires a level of calmness that enables you to plan a long-term project. You will need to document everything, related to that specific issue. You will also need to research your options in terms of lawyers, strategies and social services.
The church is a confusing factor here, in my opinion. You may have a commitment through the church to support each other, but it might be good for your mental health to consider the difference between support of someone’s goals and efforts, and unwanted meddling or policing of someone else’s life. It can be a fine line, but thinking about it may help you to regain your control of your household and your emotions.
Finally, asking for God’s help to stop thinking like a victim might help you reduce your involvement. Our ability to manage difficult situations and the options we see for our own actions are greatly influenced by our thinking about our own roles. You have the right to seek happiness in your own life. No matter how much you love this man, you are involved with someone who isn’t letting go. It may be that you have to get firm with him about what you want in your marriage, and that it isn’t someone who is obsessing about his ex’s behavior.
As far as the children go, the extent to which you two can be role models of a happy marriage, of people with full lives they enjoy, and as parents who are supportive of their children’s talents and dreams, and comforting and believing them in times of stress can go a long way toward giving them a safe haven.
I grew up with a sociopath father and a beaten down mother who was incapable of protecting us. My safe haven was my maternal grandmother. She loved me, encouraged me to be myself, and while she didn’t speak against my parents, she clearly knew that I had a hard row to hoe with them and told me she was sorry I had to go through it. The older I get, the more I appreciate her influence on my childhood, because she showed me that the whole world wasn’t like my home.
I’ve read a number of your posts, but I can’t remember what kind of outside support you personally have. If you haven’t “selfishly” sought your own private havens, you might consider it. Just to give yourself some outside input and perspective. Maybe Al-anon, maybe a therapist or even a yoga class. Something to help you find emotional relief and tools for maintaining your equilibrium.
I’m sorry you’re having to go through all this, and I hope it gets better.
Kerisee04:
There are a lot of levels to what you’re dealing with: legal, inter-family dynamic, religious. From a legal perspective, I think Kathleen has given you good advice — you need to document, seek legal and psychological representation. The religious dynamic I leave to you.
On the inter-family dynamic I have two thoughts:
First, I think if you and your husband continue your personal assaults on the ex-wife, the kids are going to pick up on this and turn on you. I saw it happen first hand with one of my siblings.
The behavior between my sibling and the ex escalated and escalated, and my parents and others got enmeshed in the mess. I saw the kids being manipulated so badly that they got to the point they were literally dissembling the truth before my eyes. They are kids. They want to please everybody.
However, no matter how loving a home you and your husband provide those kids, they are going to get to the age where they see the attacks on their mother and take them personally. And there will definitely be one loser in this game–you, and possibly a second — your husband. No matter how bad the ex is, she is their mother.
I finally had to read my family the riot act. And I’ll tell you the same thing I told them. You are in bed with this woman until the youngest kid is 18 — and beyond that if the kids decide to maintain a relationship with her.
You have got to make this work. For the kids’ sake. You are the adults here. You and your husband must call a “time-out”. Find a separate playground. Find a separate church. Find a separate life.
The ex is an adult. Her business is her business unless it proves a threat to the kids. Then you involve the authorities. But, you don’t go running to her parents.
The second point here is that second marriages have an even higher failure rate than first marriages — and that hovers around 50%. Second marriages have more hurdles to overcome than first marriages. When you throw kids into the mix, those hurdles rise. A crazy ex-spouse, even higher.
If things are already at a fever pitch this early in your marriage, where are you going to go from here? Can you honestly say you and your husband can keep the plates spinning for the next 50 years? For the sake of your marriage you have both got to back off.
I just wanted to add, Kerisee, that regardless, I think you need a support system such as Lovefraud and hopefully one in real life as well. It sounds like your husband is still staying involved in his ex-wife’s life way past the point of necessary contact regarding the children, and you are caught in the middle of all the drama. The children of course will always be a connection, but the ex and all her family does not have to be such a presence in your lives. They really don’t.
But at any rate, I’m hoping my earlier post didn’t come across as being too judgemental or harsh towards you, as like I said, I just get the sense you are caught in the middle in a bad situation with two ex-spouses, who although they have moved on physically, still are sort of “emotionally” married and wanting to maintain control over the other, not really letting go of each other. Hopefully the passage of time and putting some distance between your “present” family you have built together and his “past” family and in-laws will help things get better. I wish you well, and hope things smooth out for you.
Kathleen,
A most excellent response up there. Bravo! *clapclapclap*
See, that’s my primary concern regarding these types of intrusions. I no longer feel or think anything but indifference for the former PDIs in my life. I now study them from a sort of clinical distance. In the abstract, I should say. To increase my comprehension and knowledge.
But when the vile serpent entered our sacred garden the first time, total fury enveloped me in a white hot flash.
The quicksilver images that crossed my mind, were the terribly heartbroken, wounded, broken folks, sitting in front of their monitors with tears streaming down their lovely faces and their throats constricted and tight with pain, anxiety and despair.
So vulnerable, so fragile, so delicate to any and all perverted and disgusting words from the P/S/N they would read on LF.
LoveFraud is a life line for us. The beautiful people here willingly and lovingly extend a helping hand, a comforting shoulder to cry upon, a non-judgemental caring friendship to the hurting and grief stricken.
My protective instincts kicked in like no one’s business as yours and Oxy’s did also.
Heh, I’m not surprised in the least that we have such a commendable character trait. We have many exceptional, exemplary traits which the evil ones would seek to strive to abscond or when they realize that’s an impossibility…..they destroy without impunity.
I’m not the least bit ashamed that my comments ooze with revulsion for these creatures. They make no damn sense in my world nor do they belong.
I will shun them forever more with a force field of blinding light and titanium resistancy.