The sociopath’s imperturbability has been widely noted. However, this is a generalization, not true of all sociopaths in all situations.
A sociopath around whom the net is closing, who recognizes that he’s played his last card and finds, alas, that the game is ending and that he faces inescapable consequences—sociopaths in this circumstance may feel forms of perturbability, like anxiety and worry.
But in situations where he perceives his security (however unrealistically) to be relatively unthreatened—especially where his grandiosity and sense of omnipotence remain relatively intact—the sociopath can be curiously imperturbable.
Imperturbable, that is, in the commission of his violating acts, as well as in the subsequent striking sangfroid with which he’ll brazenly perpetuate his deceit even when confronted with his flat guilt.
How do we explain this?
First, I pose a question: Have you ever played a really cruel practical joke or, if not, witnessed one (with enjoyment), that left its victim torturously duped, perhaps even mildly traumatized?
I’d suggest that the mindset involved in conceiving and executing such a prank, even the mindset (as a witness) involved in merely enjoying it, is temporarily rather sociopathic in several ways.
I stress temporarily because nonsociopaths will inhabit this state of mind only briefly and experimentally, and then, on the assumption that any suffering the prank causes its victim will be experienced as relatively fleeting and superficial.
But I use a “practical joke” analogy because I think it describes somewhat accurately the sociopath’s basic perspective in the world. Life, for the sociopath, is something like a big stage on which to perpetrate forms of ongoing deceit to suit his shifting agenda for comfort, convenience, tension discharge, and other gratifications.
After all, at the motivational heart of the “practical joker” is the driving question, Can I pull this off? This is a question, among others—a kind of perpetual carrot, if you will—that compels sociopathically-oriented personalities.
And the socopath’s response to this implicitly posed question is felt, if not implicitly answered, as, “Of course I can pull this off! I can pretty much pull anything off! Watch me do it! Watch me get away with this!”
In other words, the sociopath’s cocky faith in his powers of chicanery nicely captures his inflated grandiosity and sense of omnipotence. To put it even more basically, the sociopath thinks he is good, really good. And in inverse proportion to how smart he thinks he is, he thinks that you are just as stupid.
This is the sociopath’s signature contempt, and let us not underestimate it: You are as stupid as he is smart.
In the end, the sociopath ultimately takes neither you, nor anyone, seriously. And it’s not that he chooses not to respect people. It’s not that he’s unwilling to take others seriously. It’s that he can’t. And make no mistake: his inability to take people seriously, in an authentic way, is a core aspect of his disorder.
Does the nonpsychotic sociopath, intellectually, know right from wrong? This is a frequently posed question, to which the answer is yes. Intellectually, the nonpsychotic sociopath is usually well aware that his behaviors are exploitive and violate legal and interpersonal laws and boundaries.
But the point is, he just doesn’t care. The sociopath just doesn’t take these laws and interpersonal boundaries seriously, because he doesn’t take you, or others, seriously.
And so this is where his imperturbability enters. When you don’t take others seriously; when, on some level, others are a joke to you; when a malignant contempt pervades your view of others, then you can have your way with them, you can use them for whatever purposes suit your immediate agenda. Moreover, you can cause them pain and outrage as you seek your own ends unburdened by normal feelings of responsibility, accountability and guilt, because you don’t just don’t take them seriously.
So you’re caught in a lie? So you’ve been busted? Big deal. So your denials are preposterous? Big deal. Let’s remember, you are slick and smart enough to convince any stupid person to disbelieve the indisputable evidence of your guilt!
And even if you can’t persuade them to give you a pass this time; even if they’ve busted you cold this time, and your normally reliable glibness doesn’t spring you from the present trap, so what? After all, there’s no shame or embarrassment to be busted by someone you don’t take seriously.
And so the sociopath’s imperturbability, in this light, can be seen as a natural byproduct of his malignant disrespect of, and contempt towards, others. It is a pathological imperturbability, not an admirable, enviable one. His is not the imperturbability of a “cool cat,” or an enviably placid temperament, or the imperturbability that can derive from a certain hard-earned wisdom, confidence and perspective.
No, the sociopath’s imperturbability is that of an emotionally, interpersonally sick individual who, at bottom, has no true emotional stake in others.
And so finally, in his relationships with others, what he stands to lose, through his exploitation, is felt to be as superficial, and dismissable, as anything he stands to gain.
(My use of male gender pronouns in this article is for convenience’s sake and not to suggest females aren’t capable of the behaviors discussed. This article is copyrighted © 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
wow, this thread really touched a nerve; 30 posts in one day!
steve has a very good article on ‘stonewalling’ on his site.
Areobicsgirl….I think your on to ROBS game!!
BINGO!!!
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Couldn’t resist btw….. 🙂
midlifecrisis:
You sound just like me. I went thru exactly the same thing as you describe. Back in the 80s and 90s, the man made $100,000 a year and still, I had to take up sewing jobs and babysitting at home to pay the bills. To this day, I don’t know where all the money he made went (computer pornography is one theory). Of course, while I was the one caring full time for two young children, paying the bills, putting food on the table and keeping the water and electric on, he laughed at me with all his heart for being a sucker and working until 2 and 3 in the morning to make $75/week from piece work.
I think back and so many bad memories come to mind such as the time I walked into the post office and was detained at the manager’s office because I had given them a check which bounced. Not only did they interrogate and humiliate me but they also threatened to press criminal charges against me. When I told him about it, he couldn’t stop laughing for a good half an hour.
There’s also the one time when he went to the ATM machine before a day trip, got back in the car cursing, kicking and screaming because “the machine wouldn’t give him any money.” I asked him why and he replied “the machine says I have no money.” To which I said, “well, do you?” And with the most self-righteous, aggrieved and angered of attitudes, he replied ‘Well, no!”
You just can’t make this stuff up!
I remember the moment.
Early on in our “courtship” we were walking in the park. Conversing about everything from A to Z. Back then we would walk and talk for hours. As we were rounding the bend discussing HIS past relationships- I said wouldnt it be just amazing and wonderful to have 100% honesty with someone – just never ever doubting or having to wonder about dishonesty.
His response was ” thats just unrealistic. And plus that would probably be so boring” – I remember IN THAT MOMENT feeling an uneasiness about his response (if only I was paying attention and noting every quirky feeling I had and made the choice to not pursue with him). Instead I just said my point of view – how I aspire to have that kind of relationship in my life – and ever so slightly uncomfortably laughed with him about his response. I did that alot 🙁 Oh and his phone rang on that walk – his response was “damn I thought I turned this thing off” – another red flag – HUGE RED FLAG…
Lastly, he was notorious for saying “I was teasing” or “I made that up” or “OMG you believed that” — MONTHS AFTER THE FACT. You know how sometimes we do tease and joke with others and we say Im teasing RIGHT AWAY. Well he felt he could lie about something and then when it came to the surface he would just say “I was teasing” or “you believe anything and everything”
And many times we would have these (what I perceived as) intense talks (because of the energy and listening I put into it) about different things ex. a dream he had…. and several months later somehow the subject came up and he would say – OMG I totally made that dream up – I never had it. You believed me??? I would say are you freaken for real? Who does that???? Who puts time and energy in making up things just to make them up??? His response was huge amounts of laughter. I would be stunned – so shocked that I couldnt even deal with the reality of ALL OF IT – ALL OF HIM – ALL OF HIS WAYS. I chose not to deal with it/face it and I stayed way toooooo long.
I remember saying because I want to believe you and be able to believe you 100% of the time. I want to trust you. So I did. Each and every time without fail. And each and every time I got burned. From the beginning I NEVER set out to have him earn my trust. I just gave it to him. MY BAD. If I had firm boundaries and beliefs in place about earning my trust – he would have failed in the first 4 months and I would have moved on without guilt or fear because I would have rationalized that he was not a good decent soul – took me 4 PLUS years. Until i realized what was unhealthy about me was not having a good sense of what a healthy relationship entails. A willingness to grow and learn together – honestly respectfully openly with the right amount of selfishness and selflessness as well as give and take…
“the sociopath’s imperturbability is that of an emotionally, interpersonally sick individual who, at bottom, has no true emotional stake in others.”
No truer words have been spoken about the ways of a S.
learnthelesson:
The monster in my life used to do something similar, however, his gig was whenever he said very cruel, mean things and I called him on it, he would say “oh, I was just kidding” but if I didn’t call him on it, it would remain said and, with time, I found out, would become his “truth”
Funny, how they’re all the same, huh?
…. and the question is WHY would anyone want to wrong foot another… in the way LTL describes? Who on earth would want to do that…and for what gain?? What kind of person would even be coming from this angle…oh…:(
I need to see this kind of behaviour for what it really is in it’s ‘infancy’, nip it in the bud before it hurts me.x
When caught in a lie, my N/S would always say, “well you know I lie, so why did you believe me when I said/promised I would/wouldn’t”, ect. it would make me so crazy…
He is calling and emailing again today, now it is “please”…I am waiting on word from my attorney that the TRO, TPO and divorce has been filed. I have been waiting for this day for 2 months now, since they took him away and then he fled.
I have been rather depressed the past couple of days, lots of tears, why me’s and poor me’s…seems like everything is going wrong and I have to handle it all myself…but then again, as I recall, I always had to, he was never really any help.
He would take a week off for the birth of our son, or when I had surgery and tell everyone he was helping me out but at home, he would sleep all day or do his own thing telling me, “it’s my vacation”…
And when he got perturbed or if I was asking to much, I would get the “now you get nothing from me for the rest of the day” and put that stupid pillow over his eyes and just sleep and sleep.
I know depression is part of the grieving process so I hope that is all it is…
Do you recommend the divorce support groups? There is one at the local church and it is free, what I can afford:) Any thoughts?
Thanks!!
myboysmattermost – hang in there girl!
You are dealing with a tough set of circumstances right now, but are doing the necessary things, and standing up for yourself. and this is golden!
best,
one step
Excellent article, insights and posts. Thanks once again Dr. Steve.
Glad I still read here because I always learn. Reading others posts and expereinces is still amazing. Expecially how fundamentally the same they (P’s) are. That still is shocking somehow to me. That there are people who are just like THAT, period.
The imperturbable aspect of the P/S/N/’s can, when done well, really resemble stoicism, strength, cool, unflappable…and I think that they get a huge amount of mileage from that, especially if they are in a business setting where these qualities are valued.
Flavor that with a wiff of , I’m just a tad “more” than any body else, and I deserve to be treated with adoration, but done in the subtlest of ways, with lots of shy boy interludes and “I don’t like to brag..”
I can so relate to Oxy’s post about the he that made the mess being all calm about it, and another poster I belive as well.
Ditto for mine. Sooooo Cool. And for the longest time I respected that, and when bad shite kept happening, I would try to match his stoicism. He expected that too…and had not much use for any handwringing on my part. But all that turned me into more and more of a mess.
I saw the pattern and talked about the pattern, and here too it was, “that’s over” “don’t talk about the past” etc.. bang on.
Presently I am dealing with his imperturbability in court. And he is classic. Deny, bully,deny. Stall,push, threaten. Refuse, deny, bully some more, and so on. But I have seen his hands shake.
Lately I have been deeply questioning if I should go on. And his classic “best defense is an offense” tactics really do have an impact.
Reading this article re-inforces why I need to carry on. Because I have the truth on my side. And he has humiliated me far more than enough.
It is all an act in any event. The I am strong and if you worry about my actions you are weak.
The stuff I couldn’t fathom he was being so calm about? It was all manufactured as a fear base for my benefit. And he was calmly knowingly torturing me mentally with these things. Now that I have unravelled the last 6 years of books, I KNOW that all of it was fabricated. How sick is that?
Thanks all for your posts and stay strong! Life is infinitely better without them. N’est pas?
anitasee: i have read many comments and articles here, and i see my spath in so much of it. But your post is the first time i have actually ‘FELT’ her.
“The imperturbable aspect of the P/S/N/’s can, when done well, really resemble stoicism, strength, cool, unflappable”and I think that they get a huge amount of mileage from that…”
and she did, with me and others, a HUGE amount of mileage. stoic, honorable, suffering, but laughing. i just didn’t realize that it wasn’t with me, it was AT me.
“Flavor that with a wiff of , I’m just a tad “more” than any body else, and I deserve to be treated with adoration, but done in the subtlest of ways, with lots of shy boy interludes and “I don’t like to brag..”
shy interludes, a tad more – intelligent, special, sweet, knowing, self deprecating 😉 all of it…
“…And for the longest time I respected that, and when bad shite kept happening, I would try to match his stoicism. He expected that too”and had not much use for any handwringing on my part. But all that turned me into more and more of a mess. ”
I was started to get that. That sense of being devalued if i had any needs or feelings that didn’t match hers. it had just started – ’cause i tried SO HARD to match her, but i started to need to have more needs met – and then the cracks started to show.
This is truly, the first post i have read where i can feel her, and the truth of how she was, ans what satrted to happen to me.
“It was all manufactured as a fear base for my benefit. And he was calmly knowingly torturing me mentally with these things.”
yup. every word was manufactured – all the ‘characters’ – the family and friends, the illnesses, the surgeries, the mental breakdowns, the suicide attempts, the incest with the father, the sister, the old girlfriend, finding out about having a son on the eve of life threatening surgery, the going blind. the dying. everything that keep me on 24/7 alert and constantly hyper vigilant………done to create bonds and fear, to torture me and others, mentally and emotionally.
on purpose.
anitasee – FIGHT!
ty and bless you.
one step