This week’s post is based on recent experiences and inspired by this comment posted on a previous article — “the eyes see only what the mind knows” (thank you ”˜woundlicker’). It’s the on-going subject about how on earth we can open other peoples’ eyes about the psychopaths who live and breathe among us. My recent experiences have highlighted, yet again, how tricky it is for people to get their head around this kind of information — let alone accept that they have been duped!
I often think back to the early days after I discovered the truth about my ex, and how puzzling I found it when people just didn’t seem to believe me when I told them what had happened. No matter how many reams of black and white evidence I had to support my claims, no matter how many times I repeated the story, and no matter how many ways I explained how a psychopath works (based on what I learned after the event) they would still ask questions that left me open-mouthed and speechless. “But surely he must be feeling absolutely terrible, and he must be missing you so much now — do you think there might be a chance you will get back together?”
I remember every time a question or statement like that was made — in all innocence, of course, because they were only trying to understand the unthinkable truth — I felt the emotional blows to my chest and my stomach as if they were real. Over and over, the shame and guilt would be relived as people screwed up their faces trying to make sense of what I knew to be the truth “but surely, Mel, a bright and intelligent person like you, surely you must have known something was going on?” “How can anyone tell so many lies for so long — it must have been exhausting!” Many times I felt like screaming out loud”¦ although on most occasions I decided that calm responses would serve me better in the long run! Yes, I am bright and intelligent (although there were times I began to wonder whether perhaps I might have been better understood had I been deemed slow and dim-witted!) and yes, lying is exhausting for the likes of normal people. But as everyone here knows, we’re not dealing with a ‘normal person’ — these people simply don’t tick the way we do!
We’re NOT All The Same!
As is often discussed here on this site, we don’t know what we don’t know”¦ and the fact is, in order to learn new things, people need to find something — anything — to connect with something they already know. It’s like finding a foundation stone, or a solid piece of ground from which to start”¦. The difficulty with explaining the psychopath, though, is that while they may look like us and often come across better than many normal people, that is where the likeness ends. So people who are doing their best to understand, automatically link the appearance of a normal person with what they know to be the behaviours of a normal person — specifically themselves, or people they know. And unless someone has already been targeted by a psychopath, the idea that such ”˜creatures’ exist and influence others in such a negative way is often pooh-poohed as being far fetched. As if such a notion is as ridiculous as early childhood fears about bogeymen and monsters under the bed.
I remember many times feeling certain that well-meaning people were quietly calling my own sanity in to question “well, you’ve been through an awful lot — perhaps you’re over-reacting a bit? It’s understandable, of course”¦ I’d do the same”¦ but perhaps, you know, it’s not as bad as you think”¦?” I knew at the time that they meant no harm. That their kind eyes and hugs were meant to reassure me”¦ but each time I heard words like that, it would be another kick in the teeth and I’d shut up and hide myself away even further — becoming more and more determined, absolutely resolutely and passionately determined, that some day I’d tell every detail of my story so that I would be heard and believed. Certain that in doing so, not only would I vindicate myself, but that my actions would also provide others with a platform to identify with and make sense of their own experiences. I’m coming to realize, though, that this is just the start.
The Parasitic Predator
In my professional career, I work in the field of leadership development. This means that I am regularly exposed to top-level directors and managers within large organizations. According to Robert Hare and Paul Babiak’s recent study of more than 200 executives, nearly 4% scored at or above the traditional cut-off for psychopathy. Dr Babiak uses the phrase ”˜parasitic predator’ to describe corporate psychopaths, saying “They are parasitic in that they are looking for a host to support them. A big company is an easy place in which to hide” Couple that with the fact that many leadership skills can arguably be translated in to psychopathic traits, it makes even more sense that this level of professionals could indeed include around four times the number of psychopaths than research suggests we should expect to find in every day life. In the corporate world where profit is king and ruthless decision-making can be viewed as a positive if not necessary attribute for successful leaders, it makes perfect sense to me that psychopaths should be attracted to this arena.
It also makes perfect sense to me that, with an increasing awareness about psychopathy thanks to the work of people like Dr Robert Hare, and the growing audiences on sites like Lovefraud and I Am Fishead, people are finally starting to wake up and smell the coffee. Not as much as I’m sure most of us here would like — but it’s a start. Take for example the scathing resignation letter by Greg Smith, the executive who worked for nearly 12 years at Goldman Sachs. Whatever the gentleman’s reasons for writing the letter, he clearly stated the existence of unethical, immoral and callous tactics that he alleges were used by employees of the firm. Regardless of where the ”˜blame’ lies, I for one am pleased that truths like these are being aired — allowing people more opportunities to vote with their feet, and also to become curious as to what is meant by a bad or ”˜toxic’ culture. Along the old adage that no publicity is bad publicity, I buy into the idea that the more these issues are talked about, the more people can choose to find out more — and that, surely, can only be a good thing.
Because it’s a tough job getting people in senior positions to understand and accept exactly how damaging continuing actions of some of their peers can be — to the staff, to the culture and ultimately to the business. I came across a specific case last year, where it was perfectly clear to me that one particular senior person was creating havoc within her department. She was one of those people who knew all the right things to say and could turn on the charm at any given moment. Her bosses adored her, believing her to be the best thing since sliced bread, and her peers admired her business knowledge (marveling at her experience and buying her rather off-the-wall strategy for the business). Her team, though, was terrified of her. When I asked them on a confidential one-to-one basis how they would describe the culture, their eyes would dart around the room, they’d shift in their seats and they’d ask me how confidential their answers were going to be kept. After a great deal of reassurances, I got the truth — both barrels. As these people talked, words such as “fear-based” “abusive” “bullying” and “controlling” came out time and time again.
That, in my opinion, was bad enough. But when the performance of this particular department was actually scrutinized for factual proof of performance, it turned out that the results had plummeted since this lady had taken over — despite her consistent and eloquent affirmations that her plan was working! I found it baffling to understand how she was able to maintain her position — and what was stopping her peers and her immediate bosses from seeing through her performance. Until, that is, I started talking with them and really hearing what they were saying.
I Thought It Was Me!
Yes, they’d heard the rumours and had of course realised that the figures were not stacking up to the original plan. They also knew that it was difficult to stand up to this person in meetings, as she would shout people down and baffle them with long-winded justifications about what she was doing and why they need to stick with the plan. The entire team, not just those who worked under this person, had learned to walk on eggshells around her. This had been going on for so long that many of them had simply given up any idea of questioning her tactics — because it had become just too draining and too much hard work. “And anyway” whispered one of her peers when the truth started to emerge “I thought it was just me! I thought I was the one being stupid! I thought that I just wasn’t bright enough to understand the plan!”
It was a Homer Simpson “Doh!” moment for me. Well of course people are going to find it hard to stand up to people who are highly likely psychopathic — in exactly the same way it was difficult for me to break free, or even realize what was happening. Even after the truth became clear, there has still been (and continues to be) a long journey back to health and self-respect. So I can fully appreciate that it may seem the ”˜easier’ route to just let things continue, particularly in the workplace where (in many cases) you can leave it all behind when you leave at the end of the day”¦ better the devil you know eh?
Well no actually. The devil you know is certainly not the best option in my opinion. Because if we don’t stand up and do something when something is clearly wrong, well then we’re giving the message that this kind of behaviour and culture is ok. It’s in these kind of places that the good people tend to walk away when they realize what’s happening. These are the kind of places where the workforce that is left is emotionally shut down and just there to get through the day rather than being there to develop enthusiasm and passion for the business.
But you know what I’m realising? I’m realising that when people begin to understand and consciously embrace positive team and leadership behaviours, the ”˜devil you know’ is suddenly left out on their own — because they can no longer thrive or manipulate when their peers and bosses are learning about honest and open communication. When the team trust each other enough to say “no” whenever inappropriate behaviour creeps back in. When they are confident enough to ask each other to explain the detail when something is not clear. With those behaviours becoming second nature, the psychopath’s manipulation and mind-games are suddenly ineffective — because fear is replaced with trust, silence with questions, and uncertainty with passion.
And I’m learning that there is no need to point the finger or even use the word psychopath — which, in a corporate environment can create some pretty big responses. No. The fact is, the more we as ”˜normal’ people learn to step up and say “yes” to the good stuff (the things we like, that are healthy, that enable us to grow as individuals and as a collective) and say “no” to the bad stuff (fear, control, manipulation and deliberately confusing word-smithing) the less psychopaths will be able to thrive among us.
And you know what? It only works 🙂
Mel – yes, the word needs to get out. Sociopaths damage everyone in their path, whether the people are romantic partners, business associates, family members – whatever the involvement.
The more we can educate people, the more we can expose them, the fewer places they’ll have to hide.
Once you know, you know. And there is nothing to apologize for.
It is also true, that in the wake of discovery, we all seem to go through a phase of discovering how many toxic situations we’ve been in and the whole world is colored by it.
Its not all bad to be questioned. Or to consider the answers. But when it looks like and smells like…it probably is……
Holy mackerel, WHAT an article! Thank you so much, Mel, for your insight! I’m printing it out and I intend to give it directly to my attorney.
The understanding that people only know what they know is spot-on.
Thanks, again.
In addition – it’s the incredulous reactions that I find to be quite challenging. I often feel as if I am also defending myself, my shattered previous perceptions, and my own sanity.
Very, very good article.
Hey there, I have a “is this a psychopath” question;
so I’m at work and this dude comes up, starts talking to me about how he got screwed over by dirty cops; he said that he was just walking one day, found a pack of newports on the ground with 4 cigs in it, so he put it in his pocket. Then immediatly two cop cars showed up; he said that the cops told him the headlight on his bicycle was out, searched him- went immediatly for that pocket and pulled out the cigs. At the bottom of the pack there was white powder-can’t remember what he said it was, but he ended up spending 30 days in jail, and is now being his own lawyer, reading books and trying to prove that the cops are dirty.
Now theres two things that make me suspicious; the first is he was so upset about how he “would never do drugs” was the “last person who would ever try them”…further emphasis. ect…which makes me think he’s trying to convince himself or something. And then…my co-worker told me that whenever he is in the store, he always asks for extra change, then asks her if she could cover him.
So is this dude just down in the dumps or do you think he is a con? If he is a con, how do I deal with him since I work nightshifts alone and he’s all askin me if I want to take a smoke break with him? (I did say no, but think he will keep pesturing me).
Take care
Yes. Stop smoking.
Mel, whenever a post or an article speaks to me on a deep level, I print it and highlight the heck out of it, and keep it in a folder that I review frequently. I’ve printed this article and will begin picking out those insights that hit home with my highlighter in hand on my lunch break. Thank you for sharing this with our community.
Freakingravy, I’m from the school that believes if you’re asking the question, you are halfway to the answer. I work with a manipulative drug addict. Sociopath? No way to know, but what I do know tells me to keep my boundaries up. The damage and affect on you is the same. Behaviors are insight into someone’s character. I don’t need to have a Masters degree to know what kind of associations are harmful. Speaking in generalities, you can hold the contact with someone to your own standards, thereby keeping yourself safe from any ulterior motive. If it is a legitimate situation, time will clear up any misunderstanding on your part. It takes me A LOT longer now to warm up to someone.
Thanks, Mel, for this article. And thanks, Donna, for creating this forum and allowing it to be about more than romantic relationships.
People who are sociopaths can have such a good masking system that they *never* take their mask off to anyone, or not for many years — not to their church, their employer, their friends, their spouses… I think it depends what they are after.
Others have public masks but terrorize their families (or only selected family members).
And some others are angels to their families but are serial killers or ruthless business people or child molesters.
But isn’t there always some sort of mask? Yep.
Some people think the mask covers up shame. Perhaps with some, but I don’t really think it’s quite that.
I think it covers up a lack of empathy, and deep down the person knows there is something missing from them (empathy) which other people have in far greater measure, and they partly perceive this lack in themselves as a “strength” and its presence in normal people as their “weakness.” It is possible that some of them perceive this lack in themselves as something to be ashamed of, and they try “faking it til you make it” but empathy must be one of those hard-wired things that is nearly impossible to get. (what do all of you think about this? can empathy be learned or taught?).
In this case, I am wondering if years of trying to fake it, but no “feelings” come… would make a person angry? (I think anger is definitely a feeling that sociopaths are capable of!)
I also think that they only feel a partial aspect of “love” — the bonding part which has to do with possession — but they miss the empathy part and fake the rest. That’s why they can love-bomb but eventually that mask will slip. Because deep down they do NOT care about the other person — they only care about themselves and how others behave towards THEM.
Manipulating others through faking empathy (to appear normal or even super-normal, like the love-bombing) WORKS.
I also think that some sociopaths know they are faking and do it very deliberately and calculatingly, and others start to believe their own lies about themselves.
Since most people do NOT fake like this, it is very hard for any of us to believe that someone would live such an elaborate lie as their life. As well, since most people have empathy in a significant measure, it is hard for us to conceive of being a human being without the empathy.
Honestly… I could be wrong about this, but I think the sociopath emotional makeup is so abnormal that we still have not quite gotten our minds around it. For example, I don’t think they really do feel normal shame. Maybe we can call it some kind of perverted shame — or maybe it’s something else entirely. I think there is a coldness there, a void, which allows for the predation. The anger can come from being unmasked.
But as far as our unwillingness (and the unwillingness of others) to believe the reality, absolutely I think it comes from our trying to assume that the sociopaths are like us (normal) and to come up with some plausible explanation (assuming they have normal emotional makeup) for their actions.
It also is taught to many of us that evil does NOT exist; that if people behave badly, then they must have been mistreated as children, and they are more to be pitied (helped) than censured (condemned). We would rather blame the victims than the perpetrators!! This myth still will not die, for some reason!
20years, you asked some very good questions and tossed out some insightful ideas.
The “mask” that you mentioned varies, but you are 100% spot-on: all spaths use one and often many to hide behind. Their “anger” isn’t so much as what we would consider to be “feelings,” but more of a reaction, IMHO. The exspath has retaliated in every way possible since he was exposed for what he is, and it is the exposure that they want so much to avoid, I think.
Can people learn how to be empathetic? I think that they can if the predisposition is already there but undeveloped. Can a sociopath learn how to be empathetic? I believe that a child with spath symptoms can learn how to “manifest” empathy, but I do not believe (nor, will I allow myself to believe) that spaths cannot ever “feel” on any level. If I look back over my marriage(s), I can see that the exspath(s) could only mimic or parrot emotion. But, true feelings are simply not in their capacity. Hard-wired, environmentally developed, or the Moon rising in Pisces, it doesn’t matter to me HOW they got the way that they are, but that they ARE sociopaths and are, therefore, a danger to anyone who has empathy.
With regard to the existence of evil….my belief is that we are conditioned to believe that evil does exist, but just for everyone else and cannot exist within our own circles. That’s one of the reasons that it’s so painful for a parent of a sociopathic child to accept the truth for what it is, and sever those ties.
When you speak of the “coldness” and “void,” it chills me to my marrow. I can distinctly remember the exspath staring straight through me during our most “intimate” moments, as well as during my explosive reaction to his betrayals. He simply wasn’t there, on any level.
To me, it’s just something that I cannot process and the article above put it plainly and truthfully.
Brightest blessings.