You are involved, say, with a pathologically self-centered personality, perhaps a narcissist or sociopath?
That is, he wants what he wants when he wants it, and he’ll do whatever’s necessary (his entitlement) to get it, or take it.
Key diagnostic trait: he reserves the right to punish you when you obstruct his agenda.
Now here’s the thing: in the heat of the moment, you may actually be pretty good at confronting his abuse. Maybe you stand up for yourself pretty effectively? Maybe, in the moment, you’re even pretty good at setting limits and challenging his nonsense?
So then what’s the problem?
The problem occurs when you step away from these incidents.
In stepping away from them, you potentially risk enacting your own form of compartmentalization, by which I mean that, while in the moment you may address his abuse with some backbone, yet beyond the moment you effectively “drop the ball” by failing to process, and own, the greater pattern.
It’s a case of our seeing the trees in the forest just fine, yet somehow, defensively, ensuring that we fail to see the forest through the trees.
I’m referring, of course, to a kind of defense mechanism with which some—not all—of us may be familiar?
As I suggested, strategically this defense mechanism deploys a form of compartmentalization, while tactically it assumes forms of denial, minimization and avoidance (of reality).
What precisely is the function and, more importantly, the danger of this defense mechanism?
Its function, I suspect, is to prevent us from connecting the dots; that is, our failure (defensively) to connect the dots enables our avoidance of confronting the greater pattern that underlies the series of incidents.
So long as we address the “abusive incidents” separately—as discreet events—thereby defensively ignoring their wider pattern, then we can rationalize more easily our “staying in” the relationship with a kind of pseudo-dignity and pseudo self-respect.
To be clear, we achieve this self-compromise by reframing the abuse as a series of brushfires to be troubleshot on an ongoing basis, much like a manageable chronic illness.
And especially if, as I’ve noted, we’re pretty good at this—somewhat effective, that is, at confronting these brushfires on a case by case basis—then it becomes easier to compartmentalize in the manner I’m describing.
The danger, of course, is how this defensive process—in its reframing of the exploitation as a series of disconnected, but manageable, events—supports our denial that the relationship has, in fact, been globally and fatally compromised by the exploitation.
This highlights, yet again, the basic conundrum of defense mechanisms: the protection they confer is so often exceeded, unfortunately, by their cost to our well-being and, sometimes, integrity.
(My use of “he” in this article was for strictly for convenience’s sake, not to imply that females aren’t capable of the behaviors discussed. This article is copyrighted © 2009 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
OXY:
This is prime example of my ‘ability’ to remain in ‘denial’…..I WANT TO TRUST PEOPLE….I WANT to believe they ‘make mistakes’…..and they do…..but this is where I personally wrestle with my own boundaries…..and second guess myself…which is NOT helpful to anyone….let alone myself.
I respect your strong convictions and well thought our response to your sons lying to you and HOW it made you feel, and his choice of crossing the line….
Your example of your sons sister….and how the ‘former’ you would have reacted by burying it…..IS ME!!!!!
WHY DO WE DO THIS???????
WE have a voice, we have feelings and WHY is it that WE ARE THE ONES feeling like we can’t speak up when WE are wronged? Why do we feel we need to protect others.
It is to avoid confrontation….?
This is what I have been way more cogniscent of in my life….but still wrestle with……
I have the issue of trust with my parents…..and the lack of validation and making ‘moves’ to show me they were truely ‘sorry’ for their actions when I needed them most…..
Then I go back to ……..but they are my parents……
And this is what I did in your situation….but it’s your son…..
BUT TRUST IS TRUST…and you are right……
So, why do I put so much weight in ‘family’????
A lie is a lie…..a murderer is a murderer, a con is a con……why give ‘family’ the blind eye to do whatever they wish to us, cross boundaries, lie and manipulate???
WE SHOULDN’t.
I’m learning this…..as a WHOLE concept…..
I am sorry your having to deal with this…..but i’m glad you handled it the way you have…..if we don’t ‘teach’ us how to treat us……then they will make up their own minds and it might not work for us.
HUGS and loves to you OXY……
Hi everyone,
This is my second post to this board. I made another one a couple of hours ago about watching this board for a couple of months. No one responded :(. I hate to sound needy. You all seem so nice and I have gotten to know you from reading this blog for awhile. My biggest reluctance to post anything was and is fear of rejection from even you all. Isn’t that silly? It is the truth though. I know it takes awhile to get to know NEW people. I am at the beginning of this journey that so many of you seem to have come so far on. I surely would appreciate any support any one can spare.
Thanks so much
FREE:
It is a fear a lot of us share or have at one point shared. We have been rejected for so long, it’s like we become to expect it…….even from strangers!
It only shows our pain.
We are all in need of validation and nurturing….and you WILL recieve it here! LF is a group of strangers…..some of us ‘stranger’ than others…. 🙂 but we all have a common thread. (unfortunately).
Sometimes we post ‘over’ each other, and generally someone is most of the time on the board…..
Everyone here is caring and loving individuals (unless we get a troll, which we occasionally do)…..we are all at different ‘stages’ of our recovery, and I think this is the beauty of this site.
With all the different threads and where people are lurking at certain times…..your post might be missed for a bit, but don’t worry.
it may take some time.
If you need immediate attention…..or are in crisis…..type ‘ALERT” or “HELP’ or something like that in the beginning of your post and someone will take note….i’m sure.
Please don’t hesitate to post….about whatever…….writing is a good way to progress and ‘get it out’.
Read, read read……and comment when/how/where you please….the more the merrier…..
Sometimes we get silly, sometime we are in crisis…..but we all care!
XXOO
EB
Just a thought. So many of you have more than just the “MEN” in you life as p’s. Parents children in law’s. Does anyone out there think that there is more than 4% of the population are p’s? Or is it just us that encounters them all?
It seems like all I have ever known are p’s. It counfounds me.
ty erin
I think awareness of the Cluster B disorders brings them to light to those of us that (eventually)choose to educate ourselves on the topic.
There are so many ‘acceptances’ of different behaviors….and rose colored glasses wearers, and denial type personalities……and I can do it….but you can’t….thinking….
I don’t know what the actual percentage is…..but what we must understand (rather than diagnosing someone) is that TOXIC is TOXIC….and we can’t control how others percieve toxic or OKAY/acceptable behaviors……
I’m still trying to figure out my parents…..But i know they are TOXIC…..so the bottom line is…..who cares….and why should I…..they are hurtful-toxic people to me .
ACTIONS speak way louder than words……
This is why we need to keep our eyes open.
There are old posts about this topic….I’m sorry I can’t direct you to them….but if you continue reading there is a wealth of new info from each aricle and members posts…..we reveal things as we are ‘triggered’ or remember different situations in common with other members…..and the posts twist and turn and conversations start…..
I have been reading the posts for a couple of months and feel like I know most of you all ready. Even you! LOL! Was reluctant to get my feet wet so to speak.
I am so grateful to finally put a name to the monster. I have always believed it was me. Something was wrong with ME. It is eye opening.
Free:
YEP….that’s the design….spin, turn it and it’s YOU that’s the problem…..
“If you didn’t, I wouln’t have had to”
“you made me XXX”
It’s always YOU YOU YOU.
This is why they don’t change….for anyone to change we must first recognize WE have a problem.
Without this recognition…..It’s NOT MY FAULT….so why do I need fixing?
When the ‘term’ was brought to my attention, I feel this was a life saver also….many of us do…..
We try and try and still we can’t please. Then we are portrayed as ‘crazy’…..and set up in all our heartache and fall into that trap…..split off from support and projected upon….
BOOOM….mission accomplished. Power and control!
We must take back control over our own lives and remain strong.
Knowledge is power…..
We all have a different learning curve….but bottom line….it’s important to have a support system to get through this emotional hell!
GLAD YOUR HERE!!!!
A wee niggle … Free = probably the reason you didn’t get a response immediately is because the thread you posted on was an old one and was lost from the left menu when other people commented on newer (or any) threads. I have missed replies to stuff I have written about too because of this issue.
Is there any way we can track what we post on? Without an email alert? In other blogs I have posted on, it leaves a summary of what I have commented on so I can trackback to check for replies and continue conversations – I realise this is more of a message board function, but is there any way we can have a facility like that on here? It would be really useful? I don’t know anything about RSS so have never clicked on it.
Oxy – when I read your first post about your son, I have to admit I thought a bit like EB and thought ‘Ooooh that’s a bit harsh – it’s only video games.’ But having read your second post, I realise now the importance of your decision – you are dead right. It doesn’t matter if the lies are about booze, prostitutes, gambling or drugs – they topic of the lie is immaterial – it is the lie that counts. And one lie is just the beginning of a downward spiral to more about bigger matters.
I am really sorry for you going through this especially at this time of the year when families should be able to spend some really good time together. But you are right in standing your ground on this and you may have given your son the best lesson possible he will ever get in his life. Although it hurts both of you right now, it protects you by keeping only trustworthy people in your life and he will have some time to reflect on his priorities and where his life is heading. That must be so hard to practice tough love like this though – I have such respect for the parenting lessons you are giving him here. I hope if I have kids in the future I can teach them half as well as you do. You deserved much better kids in your life Oxy – isn’t it a shame that those closest to us can never recognise the gifts and wisdom each of us has but strangers can?
Wishing you all a much better 2010 than 2009 was!
Dear Oxy, you are so good at helping others with their pain and I wish I could help with yours. I’m praying for you to have the strength for this. When we realise we’ve never had sufficient boundaries it does become very important to us to keep them up once we’ve got them in place. Hugs, Oxy (((())))