Editor’s Note: The following was posted as a comment by the Lovefraud reader, NewLife43. I thought everyone should see it.
I had a small epiphany today while driving back from the grocery store. What, exactly, did the spath give me that I find so difficult to let go? I have been married twice before and when those marriages were over, I was sad and wished that they hadn’t ended the way that they had. But neither one of them was like this 8 year relationship! I was still the same person, what was so different this time? Why couldn’t I release it and move on with my life?
Neither one of my ex-husbands were like the spath. In fact, NO ONE had ever made me feel like he did. And by that I mean, no one had ever made me as physically sick, scared, confused, bewildered, ashamed, lost, financially devastated”¦well, you get the picture. Most of us on here have been decimated, humiliated and degraded by this sub-human species. What is wrong with us that we cannot LET THEM GO? We shouldn’t just be glad to kiss them good-bye, we should be kicking them goodbye! And instead, many of us would take them back in a heartbeat.
Why? Because they gave us something we so deeply needed, that the world ended the same time that the relationship did. I don’t know what everyone else received from their spath, but I do know what I got from mine. He made me feel loved and accepted in a way I had never been before. He made me feel beautiful on my worst days. He shrugged off my bad moods and laughed me out of them. He ignored any insults I hurled his way and didn’t hold them against me. I could be my most terrible self and he still called me “His Queen”. Since he couldn’t possibly make a mistake in his choice of romantic partner (in his mind, anyway) I was the perfect woman for him. In a way, he did create the world we lived in and so much of it was wonderful, fun, interesting and never, never boring. But. The price I paid was tremendous and I will have to pay it for a while yet. I know that this relationship, this world of his, wasn’t ever real, but you know, it sure felt real. More real than anything I had ever experienced in my life. Those are pretty special feelings and he doesn’t them own, unless I let him.
My spath must have said “I don’t care” at least a thousand times over the course of our time together. And he meant it. What would bother a normal person, he was able to simply shrug off. It was a lesson to me to lighten up my very serious view of the world. Sometimes, things really don’t matter. (Another of his sayings). When I would get upset because something had broken and I would now have to spend the money to replace it, he said, “Things break, they wear out. Why are you getting so upset?” So I would stop and reevaluate what was important. I appreciated that viewpoint and still remember to tell myself that when yet again, something breaks.
I loved his sense of fun, it was so child-like. And although his version of fun would wear thin sometimes when it was inappropriate conduct, I tolerated it because I was thrilled by it. He really lived like somebody left the gate open! I couldn’t have been less like him if I had tried and his way of approaching life helped swing me more to the middle of the road than constantly riding the bumpy shoulder. How sad, for him, for us, that he had no idea when to stop pushing the envelope. Not realizing that what he was doing was hurting so many people. And it caused so much legal trouble in his life. How I wish that he could have kept that sense of joie de vivre without spinning out of control. Sigh! And one day, he didn’t care and I didn’t matter. My heart was broken.
I loved him very much. I still do. But the point is, I have the capacity to love someone and he doesn’t. He never will. Good for me! That means even if I don’t quite know how yet, I will be able to move on. It’s so very, very hard.
So what did he give me? He gave me complete acceptance and what I believed was love, in a way no one had before. And I had an opportunity to explode with genuine love for another person. He made me feel beautiful, no matter what and I am grateful for that.
And even if it was all an illusion, who here wouldn’t go back just for a day when we were first being love-bombed by our spath? Unfortunately, we can’t go back. The good news is, we can find a way to give deep love and acceptance to ourselves! This IS good news!
The spath uncovered our deepest needs and showed us how we can feel about ourselves, through their eyes. Who says we can’t feel that way again? Now this is my goal which I will reach for every single day for the rest of my life. And I have him to thank for that. I didn’t know before I met him that I could be wholly acceptable in someone’s eyes. Only now it’s my eyes. I can love-bomb myself.
If you are old enough, you may remember the poem, “Desiderata”. The best line was: “For all its pain, drudgery and broken dreams, it’s still a beautiful world. Strive to be happy”. Because if I give happiness to myself, then no one can ever take it away from me again. And it can’t be that hard to help myself feel that way again. If the spath can do it, then ANYONE can! What I finally understood is that it’s not him I miss or want back (he comes packaged with too much pain), it’s those amazing feelings. You know they’re already in you. He (or she) doesn’t have a copyright on them. Go get them, everyone!
Shane, Skylar, Sunflower and Truthspeak,
Thank you for the words of wisdom. How awful it is that because of 1 decision we made to let one person in our life long after the relationship is over it seems like many of us are still paying for that bad decision. AFter 4 years I am still paying for it. Thank you for the support and words of encouragement.
Deceived, Of course, you are most welcome! This is a very supportive place to come. I highly recommend that you spend time here, as for me, it has been a blessing to have this place to come to, to spend time with those who understand. To write and express, to release, to receive support, and to give support to others in need. I have only been here for a few weeks, however Lovefraud and the (cyber) friends that I have here, have played a tremendous part in my recovery. I have felt accepted, learned and grown and have had more “break-throughs” within the past few weeks, than I have, in all of the time that I have spent in the aftermath. Much love to you on your journey~ Shane
Deceived,
Your “state of mind” and not trusting others right now is a NORMAL REACTION to being hurt by someone that you didn’t see it coming.
If you walked down the street and saw some man who looked like Charlie Manson and he had a knife or gun in his hand and was screaming “I’m gonna kill you” you would run for your life, but you would find some SENSE in having been scared by tis person, or even maybe wounded by this crazy person.
The person who was mean and wounded you though, looked NORMAL (for a while anyway) so now you are afraid that the next person you encounter will be DECEPTIVE and really not what they seem.
FIRST SUGGESTION FOR HEALING: Get and read over and over if necessary Donn’a book RED FLAGS OF LOVE FRAUD, HOW TO KNOW IF YOU ARE DATING A PSYCHOPATH. Read that book as your relationship “Bible” (not just in romantic relaitionships but any relationship)
SECOND–LEARN HOW TO SPOT THOSE RED FLAGS IN ANYONE
THIRD– Upon seeing ANY RED FLAG in anyone, DRAW BACK from them
FORTH: Do not GIVE trust to people, but let them EARN TRUST over a period of time and different circumstances. For example if someone wants to borrow money from you, loan them $5 and then if they pay that back, maybe next time loan them $10 but NEVER MORE THAN YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE
As for “emotional trust” treat it the same way as you would financial trust….CAUTIOUSLY, SLOWLY and with consistent behavior on their parts. Watch how they treat others, not just you, and WATCH FOR THE “love bomb” especially EARLY on in the relationship.
Learning to trust the others in our lives and to let new others into our lives and our circle of intimacy either as lovers or friends is a SLOW process. use CAUTION not “TERROR”
You can do it, just give yourself time and follow the RED FLAG RULES. They work. God bless!
When I think back to the times I spent with the s-path I now happily call my ex-husband, I see how he was deceiving me. I don’t have any happy memories of HIM, but I do have good memories of times that, without realizing it, I frustrated his attempts to control, manipulate and deceive me. He tried to kill me, tried to drive me crazy, tried to alter my mind and personality. He is nothing and no one, yet he acted like he was a god. I wanted someone to save me, and he volunteered for the job and proceeded to make my life a living hell. I finally realized that I had the power to save myself and left him high and dry.
For the lessons I learned, I am grateful. However, I NEVER want to be with that demon again. The love bombing was a figment of my imagination. Reality is such a better alternative!
Thanks Ox Drover. I took your advice and ordered “RED FLAGS OF LOVE FRAUD”. Hopefully it will help me deal with and heal from the nightmare of getting involved with my ex.
Dear Deceived,
I think it will help you….and there are other things (books and articles) that will also help you…it is a continual thing to LEARN, first about them, what they are and what makes them tick, but then about ourselves, and why we allowed them to continue to abuse us.
Love Fraud has HUNDREDS of articles here that will help you. Plus lots of good folks here almost 24/7 for support. Hang in there, it WILL get better. ((hugs))) and God bless.
I’m posting my dream before I forget it.
I was with a family of hard-working oystermen. It was a “family” event where everyone was sitting around joking, eating, and picking up puppies. Very loving and supportive.
There was a fellow that was there – very nondescript and quiet, but he felt comfortable to me. No bad vibes, and no sudden rush of lust or desire – just a hard-working guy.
Well, for whatever reason, I was on one of the oyster boats with him – his fellow oysterman had set a capsized boat right-side-up, and they were all dredging up oysters from the riverbed. The fellow that I felt comfortable with told me to take the controls to the dredge bucket, and I didn’t hesitate. I told him that I knew that I could operate this machine, so I did.
Later – the way that dreams do this – we were all back on dry land and I was getting ready to leave so that I could finish packing and move to another location. I noticed that I had a deep, deep gash on my thigh that really needed medical attention. I looked into this gash and it went all the way down to my bone. There was debris in this wound and I got it all out. I told the guy that I needed to take care of this wound before it became infected and that I was going to go to the doctor’s. The guy said that he had medical supplies in his “long trailer” where he lived – he lived in a mobile home. I said that I would appreciate using the medical supplies and that I would take care of this, myself.
The odd thing was that he leaned over me to examine my wound and didn’t say a word. We were in close physical proximity, and it felt comfortable to feel him next to me – not sexual so much as just comfortable – so I allowed myself to feel that good comfort, and I clearly remember thinking to myself that I would feel the comfort, but put the brakes on any notion of becoming attached to this fellow because I was moving away, and I wasn’t going to start something that would just be pointless. I also remember thinking that I wasn’t goint to start anything, anyway, so I was totally in control and told the fellow that I was going to be leaving.
I don’t remember if I ever tended to the wound, or not – I woke up before I did, I think.
SO………what’s that all about?!?!
Truthy, First let’s take a look at oysters. An oyster is a crustacion…it has a hard shell that protects the soft flesh inside it. An oyster creates the beautiful pearl from secreting a substance to relieve the irritation felt by tiny grain of sand.
Dredging the river bed….dredging….In Jungian Theory, water is a symbol of the unconscious…you are dredging your unconscious, trying to come to terms with something as yet, unknown.
The man offers you the controls, and you are confident that you can operate the machine.
You are in control of this process and know you can do it.
The man offers you his medical supplies, so that you ccan attend to your wound…this is the second time in the dream that this man has assissted you.
Who is this man? Perhaps the archetype of “the wounded healer” A therapist, perhaps?
They up-right a capsized boat….a shipwreck?
The ace of cups, reversed? You mention the feeling of comfort several times, even though you are wounded. To the bone.
I think this dream is about trust…trusting yourself first and foremost, then trusting another to assist you, secondly, and finally trusting in your ability to discern who is worthy of that trust.
Just a few thoughts.
Thruthy,
I second kim’s explanation. Oysters are regarded as luxuries from the sea, and they create the pearls that we don’t want to throw away to the swines anymore.
So, you’re treasure hunting for your pearls in your unconscious to me. The wound is about the trauma from the spath imo. It needs to be tended, but you will do the healing yourself. I think the man stands for the hypothetical confrontation with a trustworthy man. What if you were to meet a kind, honest, good man right now? What would you do? It’s clear that you don’t feel this is the right time yet. You know you need to have healing to do
To me it sounds like you are processing something, a relationship that isn’t or wasn’t good for you, or a relationship within your self. You thought you were in control, but really you are not since you’ve been wounded. You also mention that there is something comfortable, but this comfort will not take responsibility for you. To me that says it’s something familiar, something you feel like home with. It might be a specific pattern you need to address, if not, it may infect your healt/life. The medicine described in the log trailer suggest that the answer may lay in the past, either with him or with you. Him is a symbol of the trigger of that specific type of mechanism described as the machine/boat. You fool your self when you are thinking you are in control thereof the concern of your body. You are still controlling some mechanisms in you that you no longer need. You have not come to terms with this yet, because the man feels safe, it’s safe to stay just like you are. In the other hand, you are ready to let go, to more forward and leave the past behind. But either way you need to address it before it becomes infected.