It’s easy to get obsessed with, fixated on, “labels” and diagnostic categories like sociopath, psychopath, malignant narcissist, narcissist, etc. To be sure, labels and diagnoses can be important and informative.
In the case of “sociopathic” individuals, for instance, we know that there’s no changing them; we know that there’s no real hope for their redemption; and so, if you’ve correctly identified a sociopathic type, you can know that it’s pointless, self-destructive to invest another minute of your time in him. And this is a good thing to know.
But it’s also the case, I’d suggest, that an overfocus on labels and diagnoses can sometimes be a distraction, a form of avoidance, sometimes of obsession, and, in some cases, a habitually poor use of one’s time.
Does it really matter, as several LoveFraud readers have pointed out in various posts over the months, what precise label—accurate or not—you affix to an individual when he’s proven to be emotionally unavailable, or a compulsive liar, or an abusive personality, or a chronically selfish, self-centered partner, or a chronic, comfortable manipulator and deceiver?
Does it really matter, in the end, what you call this? It seems to me that what’s suitable to call this, and perhaps all that’s necessary, sometimes, to call this, is–This is a bad dude for me. This is the wrong dude for me.
Sometimes this is the diagnosis that ultimately matters: Wrong dude for me, or Right dude for me.
Whether he’s a narcissist, sociopath, or neither (in a fullblown sense); whether he’s got another personality disorder, or a hybrid of personality disorders, or whether, again, he fails to meet the full criteria for any personality disorder, sometimes this isn’t the main issue.
Often, what matters most is what it is that you require in a partner, and whether he has the goods to deliver it. And once you establish that he lacks what you require—say, sufficient integrity, emotional generosity, dependability, you name it—then, as I suggest, you’ve nailed the really, and sometimes only, relevant diagnosis—the he’s wrong for me! diagnosis.
I understand that a community of people who’ve suffered some of the common indignities inflicted by exploitive personalities can offer one another invaluable support, and I surely don’t mean to devalue the fantastic healing power of this communal process.
But it’s also important to remember, going forward, that we, each of us, needs to take a good, long look in the mirror and take charge of the kind of relationships that dignify us. I maintain that, in a great many cases, when we’re honest with ourselves, we discover, in examining the history of our relationships, that we may have tolerated, overlooked, or denied behaviors and attitudes that, in retrospect, should have been unacceptable to us.
These may have been the behaviors and attitudes of a sociopath, or just a selfish, immature partner; a narcissist, or just an emotionally unavailable, detached boyfriend or girlfriend.
We may have invested a great deal of false, unrealistic hope in the possibility that this person would change; that we could somehow change this person; that this person would somehow, someday, “get it,” wake up, possibly “grow up,” realize and, finally, properly value,what we had to offer him (or her)!
But as so many of us know all too well, this can be a misguided fantasy that leads us into dangerous, compromising investments–investments which can devolve us into protracted, paralyzing resentment of the individual in whom we made this too-long, too-patient and too-compromising investment; and then get hung-up on eviscerating him for his deviance—when all along, maybe more obviously than we ever wanted to admit, we might have recognized that he was the wrong dude for me.
Again, I sincerely don’t mean to minimize the trauma arising from the violating—sometimes the shockingly violating behaviors—of those in whom we’ve invested our trust. And I particularly don’t mean to minimize the pain engendered from the chronically violating behaviors of serial expoiters.
But I do mean to question whether, sometimes, dwelling on any diagnostic cateory, including the sociopathic spectrum category, can distract us from a most important, and, ultimately, liberating achievement, which is to own that sometimes we end up making terrible choices of partners, regardless of their diagnoses—partners incapable of doing us justice, and capable all too often of doing us terrible injustice.
These are partners—whoever they are, and whatever drives their unacceptable behaviors—whom we want to be grateful to be rid of, and whose destructive qualities, in future relationships, we want to seize every opportunity to steer clear of.
(As usual, my use of male gender pronouns in this article is purely for convenience’s sake. Everything discussed in this article applies equally to female perpetrators of deception and exploitation. This article is copyrighted (c) 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
EB, When my P son got old enough to drive and go out with GFs and such he went to their homes and told such stories of abuse at his home and what a BEAST FROM HELL I was you just wouldn’t get any idea of how horrible I was to that poor baby. I actually had horns and a forked tail and not only that but I would dress up in a Nazi SS uniform and make him lick the kitchen floor clean It was soooo horrible. And for days I wouldn’t even let him sleep in a bed just on the floor with a blanket and all he had to eat was oatmeal. Poor baby.
Funny thing was, though we were not rich in cash, the neighborhood kids envied my kids because they each had their own 22 rifle, and a 410 shot gun each and a camping tent, and a horse (really cool thing) and we went campping in the national forests and parks and got to shoot. WOW!
That was before they were 11 and 12. Even after that age we still did some really cool things in gthe summer, like camping in national parks all summer. (cheap and great vacation)
However,, I did let my kids know that all the perks they got that their friends didn’t have were that the law ONLY required I feed and house and dress them. A blanket and a pillow qualified as a bed, and two sets of clothes from good will qualified as clothing, and oat meal qualified as food, so that was ALL the LAW required I gtive them, and EVERYTHING ELSE THEY HAD WAS GRAVY THAT I GAVE THEM BECAUSE I LOVED THEM, but if they would NOT COOPERATE WITH ME, we could go back to what the LAW REQUIRED and NO GRAVY.
Even as little as two years ago Patrick wrote to a priest friend of our family and told him that I had stopped giving him (P son) UNCONDITIONAL LOVE and that when he was a kid I had only given him a blanket and a pillow for a bed and two suits of clothes from good will and only fed him on oatmeal! LOL ROTFLMAO Therefore that was proof (to the priest I guess) that I was a bad Chrisitian and a bad mother. LOL
Hummmm, now let me see, does “unconditional love” mean I just have to keep on giving him what he wants no matter what he does to me? Funny, but I never found that scripture in the Bible and neither has my priest friend. Guess the P son’s Bible must have a page or two mine doesn’t. LOL
Oxy…..their bibles ALWAYS have pages others don’t!!!!
BTW….you sound as horrid as my MIL!!!
🙂
EB, I am WORSE than the wicked step mothers in all the fairy tales, even the one who tried to poison Snow White, or the one who poisoned the spindle for Sleeping beauity to kill her. I am the wicked witch of the North, South, EastAnd west. I am the WORST. Hey I called the cops on my own son just cause he stole $100K of computers out of our friend’s business and shut it down for god knows how long.
Funny thing was, our friend later tried to COMFORT US (my husband and me) to keep us from feeling guilty that our son had so ripped him off. He wasn’t even mad at our son. Looking back on that night, for years I wanted to crawl under the pavement. What a friend and I was so embarrassed I wanted to die.
He really is a great friend. Don’t have many of those.
Yea, Son P can go through the Bible and pick out my sins, but never seems to get the part where it says “thou shalt not kill’ or “thou shalt not bear false witness”—-oh, well. Maybe I’ll buy him a new Bible for Christmas.
Not a good move, Oxy. He will just quote a bunch of scriptures at you implying that you’re bad, bad, bad! Don’t give him that ammunition.
This song is so sad…but I sure recognize the feeling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7DLUWWCGKA&feature=related
Actually, that was a joke, because he can ALMOST quote the Bible from memory! No kidding! Makes me want to puke though. Oh, well, Kimmie, SATAN himself quoted scripture to Jesus, so anyone can quote it, it is living it that is hard.
Thank you for the kind postings. I think I am getting the hang of retrieving my postings a little better.
I do believe that Jim really had a horrific childhood. Cause I met his dad.
His dad also ‘slums’ his house just like Jim, and his dad has the same ‘self importance’. And Jim’s dad also gains favors from people through promising false promises. Jim like his dad is articulate and well read, high IQ.
So I believe Jim that his childhood was the worst of it’s kind.
But, from there. Jim swears he was ‘switched at birth’. He will aggressively go at anyone who points out he is just like his dad.
Oh, and one more thing. In my earlier post I wrote how Jim dumped his cargo off on my neighbor lady across the street. He dumped his cargo in her garage without her permission. (so she would have to move it to get her vehicle in her garage)
I got feedback from my sister and a few other people. They said Jim is looking to ‘service my neighbor lady’.
I pointed this out to her tonight and she denied it. But, then she admitted that he asked for a home cooked meal in addition to the gas money she paid him to run a favor.
Just like my sister said he would do.
Jim can keep surveillance on me while he is with my neighbor lady across the street. Have his cake and eat it too.
The biggest pisser of it is that he makes sure he picks friends that won’t date his ex’s.
Bet that is all a part of Jim’s big picture.
Jeannie;
Ha….spath did the same thing…..I have a rental and he smoozed the neighbor lady with drugs and i’m sure sex……he had her conned!
He stalked me from her deck. Even when the police were with me….he was up on her deck snickering.
The restraining order specifically stated 350 yards from my rental also…..
He was about 30 feet.
The glory was…..she saw through him eventually. Her life got complicated and peeps in her life died and he still insisted on her ‘covering’ and giving him time and energy with the DA…..she dropped out as he didn’t recipricate.
My son saw her daughter at youth group about a year ago….the d said….OMG…..that’s your dad….MY MOM HATES HIM!
Pretty funny.
Yeah…..just wait……he’ll expose himself to all…..you don’t even have to date his friends!
Thank you Erin,
I wouldn’t want to date Jim’s friends. They are just like him. They went to the same school.
Isn’t it such a pisser that people will allow this guy to stalk you from their premises?
I don’t think my neighbor lady will ever get it. She has already ‘explained away’ Jim’s behavior.
She told me I’m wrong when I said Jim is controlling. She said he is not controlling. He just likes everything his way. He is not abusive. He just gets mad when things don’t go his way. Then she’d tell me that me and Jim are ‘fire and gasoline’, and we need to learn to get along. (I was blamed as the trigger for Jim’s bad temper.) She also said we need to put the past behind us. (she wouldn’t listen that Jim’s past behavior continues into the present)
Well, maybe neighbor lady needs to experience the ‘Jim experience’.
Great Article!
I been visiting Lovefraud for well over a year now. It helped to get through some really tough times. Mainly because it let me know that I was not alone (that there were so many other people out there that had dealt with an evil partner as well).
I continue to get the latest e-mails each week, but only take a peak at them when I have the time and am in the mood. Believe me, it is NOT a reflection of the site or what others have to say.
It is because I have learned so much and am NO LONGER focusing on the hurt and pain. I am truly so happy now. I have gotten rid of the sociopath in my life and have gotten over the hurt. I survived! And more importantly, I have stopped dwelling on the fact that I should have seen through him a lot sooner than I did.
It’s such a wonderful feeling when it doesn’t matter anymore. I rarely think about “him” or “that time of my life”. I couldn’t care less about any of it, nor do I want to waste another minute on it.
So now, I’ve been concentrating on myself. Enjoying my life. Doing things that I’ve always wanted to do. I have found “myself” again! Yay!
I will always be thankful for the people here that have helped me to get to where I am today. For all those who are still in the midst of the pain and confusion…..hang tight….and find that spirit within yourself to move on and never look back. It does get better, if you let it!
And after all is said and done, you will be able to spot the “sociopath” or “wrong guy” in a heartbeat! When I do, I chuckle to myself, because now I know better. Of course I wish I knew better back then, but I didn’t. So if it ever comes up into to my mind, I consider it a learning experience. One learned the hard way. Even so, don’t let your devastating experience define who you are!
And I know he didn’t deserve to ever have a wife like me. I am whole and happy now. I’m sure he’s not, because he will always be searching for that “someone” to manipulate to help him feel whole. He will be living his life of internalized torment of constantly having to play his sick game. Not me, I left the game, took my ball and went home to peace and contentment.