It’s easy to get obsessed with, fixated on, “labels” and diagnostic categories like sociopath, psychopath, malignant narcissist, narcissist, etc. To be sure, labels and diagnoses can be important and informative.
In the case of “sociopathic” individuals, for instance, we know that there’s no changing them; we know that there’s no real hope for their redemption; and so, if you’ve correctly identified a sociopathic type, you can know that it’s pointless, self-destructive to invest another minute of your time in him. And this is a good thing to know.
But it’s also the case, I’d suggest, that an overfocus on labels and diagnoses can sometimes be a distraction, a form of avoidance, sometimes of obsession, and, in some cases, a habitually poor use of one’s time.
Does it really matter, as several LoveFraud readers have pointed out in various posts over the months, what precise label—accurate or not—you affix to an individual when he’s proven to be emotionally unavailable, or a compulsive liar, or an abusive personality, or a chronically selfish, self-centered partner, or a chronic, comfortable manipulator and deceiver?
Does it really matter, in the end, what you call this? It seems to me that what’s suitable to call this, and perhaps all that’s necessary, sometimes, to call this, is–This is a bad dude for me. This is the wrong dude for me.
Sometimes this is the diagnosis that ultimately matters: Wrong dude for me, or Right dude for me.
Whether he’s a narcissist, sociopath, or neither (in a fullblown sense); whether he’s got another personality disorder, or a hybrid of personality disorders, or whether, again, he fails to meet the full criteria for any personality disorder, sometimes this isn’t the main issue.
Often, what matters most is what it is that you require in a partner, and whether he has the goods to deliver it. And once you establish that he lacks what you require—say, sufficient integrity, emotional generosity, dependability, you name it—then, as I suggest, you’ve nailed the really, and sometimes only, relevant diagnosis—the he’s wrong for me! diagnosis.
I understand that a community of people who’ve suffered some of the common indignities inflicted by exploitive personalities can offer one another invaluable support, and I surely don’t mean to devalue the fantastic healing power of this communal process.
But it’s also important to remember, going forward, that we, each of us, needs to take a good, long look in the mirror and take charge of the kind of relationships that dignify us. I maintain that, in a great many cases, when we’re honest with ourselves, we discover, in examining the history of our relationships, that we may have tolerated, overlooked, or denied behaviors and attitudes that, in retrospect, should have been unacceptable to us.
These may have been the behaviors and attitudes of a sociopath, or just a selfish, immature partner; a narcissist, or just an emotionally unavailable, detached boyfriend or girlfriend.
We may have invested a great deal of false, unrealistic hope in the possibility that this person would change; that we could somehow change this person; that this person would somehow, someday, “get it,” wake up, possibly “grow up,” realize and, finally, properly value,what we had to offer him (or her)!
But as so many of us know all too well, this can be a misguided fantasy that leads us into dangerous, compromising investments–investments which can devolve us into protracted, paralyzing resentment of the individual in whom we made this too-long, too-patient and too-compromising investment; and then get hung-up on eviscerating him for his deviance—when all along, maybe more obviously than we ever wanted to admit, we might have recognized that he was the wrong dude for me.
Again, I sincerely don’t mean to minimize the trauma arising from the violating—sometimes the shockingly violating behaviors—of those in whom we’ve invested our trust. And I particularly don’t mean to minimize the pain engendered from the chronically violating behaviors of serial expoiters.
But I do mean to question whether, sometimes, dwelling on any diagnostic cateory, including the sociopathic spectrum category, can distract us from a most important, and, ultimately, liberating achievement, which is to own that sometimes we end up making terrible choices of partners, regardless of their diagnoses—partners incapable of doing us justice, and capable all too often of doing us terrible injustice.
These are partners—whoever they are, and whatever drives their unacceptable behaviors—whom we want to be grateful to be rid of, and whose destructive qualities, in future relationships, we want to seize every opportunity to steer clear of.
(As usual, my use of male gender pronouns in this article is purely for convenience’s sake. Everything discussed in this article applies equally to female perpetrators of deception and exploitation. This article is copyrighted (c) 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
Dear Steve,
I get exactly what you are trying to say. I know that at first, the labels are important. They helped me to define what I had been dealing with. For every word, there is a definition and those definitions of what a sociopath, narcissist or psychopath helped me to define my ex.
Now, it’s all about working on myself and when I think of the ex spath, I simply think of the word, “bad”, which is what he is in all ways. I see no good whatsoever in he or his actions. But first, I had to learn.
I think what you are describing might be a one of the stages we reach in our healing process and it IS an important one. Be they male or female, I have learned there are those who are simply just plain BAD. They will never change, they LIKE the way they are and the real lesson is that, from this, those of us who have been through hell and back, we learn to listen to our intuition, we don’t ignore the red flags and we move farther and farther along in our recovery.
bluejay, how interesting that the very narcissist that drove this man to suicide would come out and deny any allegations. It’s kind of hard to argue with a letter that was written by a man who is now deceased. If anything good can come out of this, it will be that this particular employer will be known as the real person he is. And THAT particular label with stay with him for a very long time. How sad for this poor man who felt death was his only way out.
Listen to instincts.. that knowing inside that either shouts or whispers.. something is wrong here.. SOMETHING IS WRONG HERE!!!!
http://blog.womenexplode.com/2010/08/20/truth-or-lie.aspx
Cat, I’d like to agree to disagree with you on that one about the employer being labeled by the letter the dead man wrote.
Look at that situation where the man was caught for stealing beer from the company and fired, then opened up and killed all those people as well as himself. He told his family that it was because he had suffered “racial slurs” at the plant.
EVEN IF he had suffered racial slurrs, did that justify the killing of those people. Even he said he had killed “all the ones who persecuted him” but others as well, and that he wanted to kill more….I’m sorry, his family may blame the “racial slurs” he allegedly suffered for him killing all those people, but I don’t buy that.
While I admit that a psychopath can “make us crazy” (been there and got the tee) taking our own lives or taking the life of someone else because we were “peresecuted” I think is a bogus excuse not a reason.
While I truly (I think) understand the reasons we don’t “just leave” a bad relationship, and therefore have some compassion and empathy for people who do “crack” and kill either themselves or someone else—I strongly believe, no one can MAKE us make that choice. We make it ourselves. Believe me, I have strongly wanted to hurt others, but I have never allowed myself to take the law into my own hands. UNLESS WE ARE TRULY PSYCHOTIC (out of touch with reality_-seeing thunder and hearing lightening) Our actions are our CHOICES. We are responsible for our choices and our actions.
Thank you Cat. You reflect my intention well. It certainly isn’t to diminish the impact of “really bad, disastrously destructive personalities.” Thanks for your clarifying remarks, which I appreciate.
IFinallyGotTheLesson…i also appreciate your feedback. I understand that, for you, “bad” doesn’t adequately capture the depth of the horror of your experience with your violator. I understand your reaction to my article.
NewLife, your comments always mean a lot to me. Always.
OxD:
For me, labels are extremely important. For you, maybe not, but for me, yes, indeed.
Dear Gotthelesson,
In different stages of the healing process different things are important to each of us, and that seems to change sometimes daily or even hourly as we “roller coaster” through all the emotions as we are trying to heal from the utter devestation that they leave in their wake.
There was a time when it mattered very much to me, as well. I’m just past the point now that THEY much less the label for THEM even matters. They are EVIL, BAD, TOXIC, POISON, HATEFUL, the words to try to describe them fail so utterly that none are truly adequate so it no longer matters to ME what they are called. My spirit and my soul know that they are bad and toxic for me and I must stay away from them. ((((Hugs))))
It matters to me.
Not on lf to receive comments or debates about my beliefs. Don’t think that is what this forum is intended for.
Wasn’t debating your beliefs, just sharing mine. Sorry if you were offended.
I understand all points made.
The first ‘word’ that came up in my world was Narcissistic.
I researched the meaning and it fit…..big time……explained alot.
This brought me to the place of awareness. …….the word….Narcissistic.
Then spaths phychologist represented the word…..SOCIOPATH.
But spath didn’t stick around with psychologist long enough for a formal diagnosis.
I researched sociopathic behaviors…..It also fit.
From this place of education and enlightenment……I learned…..and I asked the psychologist…..do they change?
Is there hope?
He said…..NO.
I asked, Ever??? I wanted hope.
He said…..generally NO. I have seen a few as they age, and run off all friends and support and family…..lose their looks, lose their ability to charm, and when they get ill……they want pity and support. THAT”S when they come to me and ask why, what is wrong with me?
As he told me this…..i’m thinking…..i’ve got a looooonnnggg time and alot more abuse to endure, to get to the ill stage and HOPE it changes him…..in time for me to nurse him and change HIS diapers……
Is this worth the chance……NO!
I’m done!
The label helped me recognize ‘what’ it was, and how the outcome would end……
Without having a ‘name’ for it……I still think i’d have hope-I think i’d still be enduring.
NOW…..outside of educating others about it…….it doesn’t matter what/how/who/when he is.
He’s ‘bad’ for me. Poison for me and toxic to me. All that is ‘bad’.
No….’bad’ doesn’t even scratch the surface of who he is…..
Bad is milk 5 days out of date.
Bad is not paying your electric bill and having it turned off…..
Bad is how bad you broke your leg.
Bad is how you feel when you are throwing up.
BUT…..bad=toxic=him, in my head.
To others…..I say he exhibits Sociopathic behaviors…….
To professsionals…..attorneys/judges etc… I say he exhibits Cluster B personality disorder traits. (It always peaks the interest of those types…..and then I go into the Socipoath speel) 🙂
I also think it’s an issue because 9/10 are NOT formally diagnosed and we can run into problems calling them a SOCIOPATH without a diagnosis….and we all know how spaths like to keep a court action going……slander is right up their ally!
Sociopath got me ‘out’ of the relationship.
Toxic….keeps me out.
Sociopathic behaviors keep me reminded of how toxic he is.
Knowing the pain I could ‘go back’ to……is ‘bad’.
Ifinallygotthelesson…..You are in a stage where it DOES matter…….and I can totally relate to that.
But what keeps us out forever and away from others…..is being aware of the ‘bad’ behaviors and how easily we can get hooked.
I think others are stating their place in healing…..of which you are also doing…..don’t think it’s a debate on what/how to refer to them and I don’t see judgement passed on your beliefs.
Bottom line is…..Whatever works to keep you and your soul away and healthy and on a healing path.
Steve:
Thanks for this article. I see your points and I think you are right in pointing these out to ‘healers’….
Soemtimes we can get ‘stuck’…..and sometimes being ‘stuck’ keeps us in this toxic, degrading, horrible relationship…..continuing to give ‘benefit’ of doubt….and hoping….if I waiver between N and S…..or maybe he’s neither and i’ve got it all wrong…..yadayada…..
Point is…..GET OUT! It’s bad for you!