It’s easy to get obsessed with, fixated on, “labels” and diagnostic categories like sociopath, psychopath, malignant narcissist, narcissist, etc. To be sure, labels and diagnoses can be important and informative.
In the case of “sociopathic” individuals, for instance, we know that there’s no changing them; we know that there’s no real hope for their redemption; and so, if you’ve correctly identified a sociopathic type, you can know that it’s pointless, self-destructive to invest another minute of your time in him. And this is a good thing to know.
But it’s also the case, I’d suggest, that an overfocus on labels and diagnoses can sometimes be a distraction, a form of avoidance, sometimes of obsession, and, in some cases, a habitually poor use of one’s time.
Does it really matter, as several LoveFraud readers have pointed out in various posts over the months, what precise label—accurate or not—you affix to an individual when he’s proven to be emotionally unavailable, or a compulsive liar, or an abusive personality, or a chronically selfish, self-centered partner, or a chronic, comfortable manipulator and deceiver?
Does it really matter, in the end, what you call this? It seems to me that what’s suitable to call this, and perhaps all that’s necessary, sometimes, to call this, is–This is a bad dude for me. This is the wrong dude for me.
Sometimes this is the diagnosis that ultimately matters: Wrong dude for me, or Right dude for me.
Whether he’s a narcissist, sociopath, or neither (in a fullblown sense); whether he’s got another personality disorder, or a hybrid of personality disorders, or whether, again, he fails to meet the full criteria for any personality disorder, sometimes this isn’t the main issue.
Often, what matters most is what it is that you require in a partner, and whether he has the goods to deliver it. And once you establish that he lacks what you require—say, sufficient integrity, emotional generosity, dependability, you name it—then, as I suggest, you’ve nailed the really, and sometimes only, relevant diagnosis—the he’s wrong for me! diagnosis.
I understand that a community of people who’ve suffered some of the common indignities inflicted by exploitive personalities can offer one another invaluable support, and I surely don’t mean to devalue the fantastic healing power of this communal process.
But it’s also important to remember, going forward, that we, each of us, needs to take a good, long look in the mirror and take charge of the kind of relationships that dignify us. I maintain that, in a great many cases, when we’re honest with ourselves, we discover, in examining the history of our relationships, that we may have tolerated, overlooked, or denied behaviors and attitudes that, in retrospect, should have been unacceptable to us.
These may have been the behaviors and attitudes of a sociopath, or just a selfish, immature partner; a narcissist, or just an emotionally unavailable, detached boyfriend or girlfriend.
We may have invested a great deal of false, unrealistic hope in the possibility that this person would change; that we could somehow change this person; that this person would somehow, someday, “get it,” wake up, possibly “grow up,” realize and, finally, properly value,what we had to offer him (or her)!
But as so many of us know all too well, this can be a misguided fantasy that leads us into dangerous, compromising investments–investments which can devolve us into protracted, paralyzing resentment of the individual in whom we made this too-long, too-patient and too-compromising investment; and then get hung-up on eviscerating him for his deviance—when all along, maybe more obviously than we ever wanted to admit, we might have recognized that he was the wrong dude for me.
Again, I sincerely don’t mean to minimize the trauma arising from the violating—sometimes the shockingly violating behaviors—of those in whom we’ve invested our trust. And I particularly don’t mean to minimize the pain engendered from the chronically violating behaviors of serial expoiters.
But I do mean to question whether, sometimes, dwelling on any diagnostic cateory, including the sociopathic spectrum category, can distract us from a most important, and, ultimately, liberating achievement, which is to own that sometimes we end up making terrible choices of partners, regardless of their diagnoses—partners incapable of doing us justice, and capable all too often of doing us terrible injustice.
These are partners—whoever they are, and whatever drives their unacceptable behaviors—whom we want to be grateful to be rid of, and whose destructive qualities, in future relationships, we want to seize every opportunity to steer clear of.
(As usual, my use of male gender pronouns in this article is purely for convenience’s sake. Everything discussed in this article applies equally to female perpetrators of deception and exploitation. This article is copyrighted (c) 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
Great article and great comments…everything here at LF rings true. I feel like the label helped me to understand what I could not understand prior to learning about sociopaths. Everything finally made sense!! But I agree that once you develop that understanding and knowledge of spaths, you realize that you can’t afford (emotionally, physically, or financially) to put up with such behavior, as it is MOST DEFINITELY TOXIC. I, too, have had to lose “friends” who really weren’t true friends, and have also had to cut out a sibling, because now I see how her behavior so closely duplicates that of the ex spath husband. I am emotionally torn because I also see some of the behavior in my elderly mother–yet I was raised to “honor thy father and mother.” It’s hard for me because some of her behavior through the years was emotionally abusive…of course, I now see why I ended up with the monster ex. But she will not live for many years longer at her age. So I feel at odds–I want that “mother” that she really can’t be, yet I’m tired of being hurt.
Anyway, I now KNOW that I have to be on guard to avoid people who have the same kind of traits. I don’t hesitate to back away from someone when my intuition tells me to. So in that regard, I guess I’m doing better now at taking care of me.
Am loving Donna’s book!! Am almost finished with it, and even though it triggers nightmares about my ex, I do get to be with the spirit of my son in my dreams (he took his life a few years back–I now think he also had PTSD that was undiagnosed). I commend Donna for all her hard work, because it has been a blessing for me and so many others!
Annmarie56, I too had that situation. About the time she turned 90, or maybe sooner, I was finally well “emotionally insulated” from her, in that I didn”t share from the depth of my soul anymore, actually I was not that “real” around her anymore, I just couldn’t be, didn’t take her guilt trips personally. It was how I would deal with a child. You don’t really share your troubles with a child, nor do you take their lies seriously, etc. Yet I could take real joy in giving her a present that pleased her, my love for her was real, and if she didnt’ like a present, I wasn’t anymore hurt than by a two year old that likes the box better than the present inside or simply tosses the whole mess aside. I really did get to that place that she couldn’t hurt me. A note she left for me to read after she died DID hurt, but it helped cure the grief.
neveragain–
Thanks, your input helps. I do love her, but I do not truly trust her, either. I am pretty sure she had abuse in her childhood, so I don’t think she really recognizes that kind of behavior. I live far from her now, but will be making a visit soon, so the anxiety will increase. Thank goodness for the anti-anxiety med for PTSD!! I do know that she loves me, but it has sure come at a cost.
Annmarie, Neveragain, Matt, and all the others who have had problems with a “toxic” parent— I think we never get so old or “adult” that we don’t want that mother/father we never had, or approval from the DNA donor, emotionally, at least, but at the same time, our own “adult selves” can be the parent we wanted but never had.
“Honoring thy father and mother” was a hard spot for me as well, but I no longer see it as allowing them to use or abuse me…but, instead, I HONOR them when I become the kind of person that would bring “honor” to a parent.
The Bible also says to parents, “Father’s provoke not your children to wrath.” Wrath is the kind of anger that seethes and festers from UNJUST treatment and abuse.
Accepting abuse from a parent is not “doing God’s will” for me. When I was young, my parents’ job was to love and nurture me, to “bring (me) up with the nurture and admonition of the Lord.” Not to bring me up in the TERROR of both God and my own DNA donors.
I made the mistake of thinking that the way I was brought up was normal and good. I didn’t know any other way of thinking. Now I know better, and now, I do better.
Some of us here at LF must go NC with our sibs, parents, other family, and some can simply live at a distance, or keep their “trust” in their own pockets. Each of us has a different situation with our families of origin that we must work out. The main point I”m trying to make is that if NC is what we truly need then that is what we should do. If having limited contact, or association is what you need or can handle then that is right for you, but none of us should feel that we HAVE TO have contact in order to “honor our parents”—we can honor them by becoming the kind of people that will bring praise and honor to them, but it doesn’t mean we must endure abuse from them.
It took a long painful road to come to that conclusion and to truly see that I can be happy and don’t have to endure whatever family members put out. It liberated me from the emotional bonds and slavery of my family and the idea that I had to “please” them no matter what the cost to myself.
I may not be
He was ‘just a bad dude’ I could not comprehend, that had me in a knot of lies, torment and confusion…who could lie so convincingly you would think he was a really beautiful kind hearted sensitive dude, this is not about recognising a bad dude…this is about being driven crazy by lies and deception…if he was ‘just a bad dude’ I would be fine!!!!
All very valid and insightfull comments, above.
It really does come down to what works for you, and what works today may not work as well tomorrow, and so forth.
I am at a point where my healing needs to be a spiritual one. I need to heal my own spirit and honor it. This requires rigorios honesty, a desire to do the next right thing, and the ability to forgive myself and others for their futile and hurtfull and ignorance driven behaviors.
How can I forgive myself and have compassion for myself if I can’t forgive others?
Please don’t misunderstand, I’m not trying to sway anyone else to forgive anything if they aren’t there yet, and I understand that there are some people who don’t deserve forgiveness. Being self righteously angry IS ALLOWED and absolutely neccisary, in my opinion.
So, my obsession with labels is this:
While it is my responsibility to honor my own spirit, I will not allow a bad dude in my life…He would poison the holy water of my spiritual life, but I can forgive a bad dude for being a bad dude if I can see that he is a damaged and wounded spirit himself, acting out of ignorance to meet his enormous needs. In short, if he’s human and HAS a spirit.
I draw the line at sociopaths. They are not even remotely human, and they are souless and it’s not my job to forgive them.
I know that all sounds sooo philosophical, and I’m sorry, but that’s where I’m at, in my own recovery.
I’m fortunate enough to not have any of them in my lfe at this time, but I still have to deal with the effects they’ve had on me in the past.
God bless us every one, and am so happy to be sharing this journey with every one of you.
Kim what you talk about is probably the answer….it’s a spiritual one. A mysterious one, and one that needs to be…well….allowed breath..so do not apologise for being philosophical because the answer is NOT a scientific one….that can be labelled or categorised…I guarantee as soon as you put a label on it…it will jump out and away!!
labels help to a DEGREE but when analysis becomes a way of coping in an intellectual attempt to be safe (another illusion) labels are useless but we need to have them….as a form of vocabulary yes, as an answer? no. There are so many interpretations of the word psychopath, none of them yet all of them are accurate.
Science has turned quantum and it’s no longer as solid and reliable as we previously thought….a sea of waves and particles…space and time….shifting paradigms….so labels are okay to describe the present state of affairs…but once the world was flat and space travel was impossible…
I’ll forgive myself, and I will shine a white light on the memory of the P…because he no longer causes me harm…it was nothing personal as it turns out..it’s what he does and what he is doing…he has forgotten me like an old car he used to drive…he always will have a new one. If he comes into my life again and I have to deal with his moron existance again he runs the risk of getting killed. Wonder does he know that, I would say he does…Perfect, so we understand eachother…and if another psychopath has the misfortune to come into my life again and I find out….WATCH what’s going to happen to them…ha ha..offensive? I’ll show you offensive…..
Thanks for the article its been a while since I have logged in and made any comments… I needed the label! because for me it was hidden behind he is an “alcoholic” Bull s&*^……. I believed that crap for over 23 years since I was 17 when I met him… family fed me that crap too…. when I could put the label to him he tried to have everyone he knew tell me I dont think he is a sociopath BS!!!!!!! Bad Dude! LMAO EVIL DUDE PURE EVIL…… Thanks for LF because when I found this site I knew the alcoholism was just the mask…. for the true disorder and I finally could put a label on it and chalk it up as get the hell outta here as fast as you can….
We are free and I am getting myself back…. I had to leave school oh and when you do tell people like I told my professors do you think they helped me??? no they thought I was crazy… so I withdrew from school will enroll again in my new location… and am somewhat NC for the most part just emails… Oh he is in a chrisitan rehab maybe we can get “family” counseling? NO WE ARE NOT FAMILY!!!!! hello….. thank god ! ahhhh I am better it was a year in July I found LF thank you ! all …..
BP, 🙂
Spirit40, I totally understand the alcoholism confusion. My Xspath is a dually addicted bad dude, and I struggle with the S label. Is he or isn’t he? Don’t know. Probably never will, but he is toxic and I’m trying not to be. That’s all I need to know.