It’s easy to get obsessed with, fixated on, “labels” and diagnostic categories like sociopath, psychopath, malignant narcissist, narcissist, etc. To be sure, labels and diagnoses can be important and informative.
In the case of “sociopathic” individuals, for instance, we know that there’s no changing them; we know that there’s no real hope for their redemption; and so, if you’ve correctly identified a sociopathic type, you can know that it’s pointless, self-destructive to invest another minute of your time in him. And this is a good thing to know.
But it’s also the case, I’d suggest, that an overfocus on labels and diagnoses can sometimes be a distraction, a form of avoidance, sometimes of obsession, and, in some cases, a habitually poor use of one’s time.
Does it really matter, as several LoveFraud readers have pointed out in various posts over the months, what precise label—accurate or not—you affix to an individual when he’s proven to be emotionally unavailable, or a compulsive liar, or an abusive personality, or a chronically selfish, self-centered partner, or a chronic, comfortable manipulator and deceiver?
Does it really matter, in the end, what you call this? It seems to me that what’s suitable to call this, and perhaps all that’s necessary, sometimes, to call this, is–This is a bad dude for me. This is the wrong dude for me.
Sometimes this is the diagnosis that ultimately matters: Wrong dude for me, or Right dude for me.
Whether he’s a narcissist, sociopath, or neither (in a fullblown sense); whether he’s got another personality disorder, or a hybrid of personality disorders, or whether, again, he fails to meet the full criteria for any personality disorder, sometimes this isn’t the main issue.
Often, what matters most is what it is that you require in a partner, and whether he has the goods to deliver it. And once you establish that he lacks what you require—say, sufficient integrity, emotional generosity, dependability, you name it—then, as I suggest, you’ve nailed the really, and sometimes only, relevant diagnosis—the he’s wrong for me! diagnosis.
I understand that a community of people who’ve suffered some of the common indignities inflicted by exploitive personalities can offer one another invaluable support, and I surely don’t mean to devalue the fantastic healing power of this communal process.
But it’s also important to remember, going forward, that we, each of us, needs to take a good, long look in the mirror and take charge of the kind of relationships that dignify us. I maintain that, in a great many cases, when we’re honest with ourselves, we discover, in examining the history of our relationships, that we may have tolerated, overlooked, or denied behaviors and attitudes that, in retrospect, should have been unacceptable to us.
These may have been the behaviors and attitudes of a sociopath, or just a selfish, immature partner; a narcissist, or just an emotionally unavailable, detached boyfriend or girlfriend.
We may have invested a great deal of false, unrealistic hope in the possibility that this person would change; that we could somehow change this person; that this person would somehow, someday, “get it,” wake up, possibly “grow up,” realize and, finally, properly value,what we had to offer him (or her)!
But as so many of us know all too well, this can be a misguided fantasy that leads us into dangerous, compromising investments–investments which can devolve us into protracted, paralyzing resentment of the individual in whom we made this too-long, too-patient and too-compromising investment; and then get hung-up on eviscerating him for his deviance—when all along, maybe more obviously than we ever wanted to admit, we might have recognized that he was the wrong dude for me.
Again, I sincerely don’t mean to minimize the trauma arising from the violating—sometimes the shockingly violating behaviors—of those in whom we’ve invested our trust. And I particularly don’t mean to minimize the pain engendered from the chronically violating behaviors of serial expoiters.
But I do mean to question whether, sometimes, dwelling on any diagnostic cateory, including the sociopathic spectrum category, can distract us from a most important, and, ultimately, liberating achievement, which is to own that sometimes we end up making terrible choices of partners, regardless of their diagnoses—partners incapable of doing us justice, and capable all too often of doing us terrible injustice.
These are partners—whoever they are, and whatever drives their unacceptable behaviors—whom we want to be grateful to be rid of, and whose destructive qualities, in future relationships, we want to seize every opportunity to steer clear of.
(As usual, my use of male gender pronouns in this article is purely for convenience’s sake. Everything discussed in this article applies equally to female perpetrators of deception and exploitation. This article is copyrighted (c) 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
one_step_at_a_time,
I will keep your friend in my prayers, hoping that she is safe and sound.
Dear Still Trying To Understand, One Step, and Hens:
Thanks to all of you for your suggestions–very helpful and thank you for sharing your hope and your personal experiences. Your responses bring ease to my soul. God Bless you all. : )
IFGTL
IFGTL – Your very welcome..I just wish someone had had the right word’s for me when I first came here..I was getting all the same advice from these wonderful people but still it took a long damn time to get where I am today. I wish I could fast forward the next few years for you. Yes years, two and a half for me and still growing. Yes at first all the focus was on the X bf, I was obsessed with what had happened, what he was all about, it was so hard for me to wrap my brain around..And at the same time missing him and fearing him and that big horrible feeling of loss and dispair.
You mentioned in an earlier post about your mother, father and brother and your childhood. I know you dont want to hear it now but soon your focus will turn to that and the life that lead you to this place your in now. This is where I found so many answer’s. I was forced to lift up that rug and deal with all the trash I had swept under. Trash that I could not wrap my mind around as a kid because of shame and guilt that should never of been mine to begin with. I think of the abuse my sister suffered along with me, hers was thousands times worse than mine, and how my parent’s should both die in prison for what they did..My sister took her life at age 48, maybe if I had know what I know now I could of brought some peace into her life, because I know she lived a tormented life, the demon’s in her mind were just too much I guess. Maybe i have strayed off my intent here with you but, everything happens for a reason and being involved with a sociopath is what brought me to my knees, the burden was just too much, the last straw as they say.. I am here and I am alive and greatful every moment of it…
One…..
🙁
BlueJay,
Thank you for your encouraging words. I am happier now than ever before: I am at peace. Wanting to find a mate is natural, accepting challenges, including fears is a given and in my situation it helps me keep on my path because I can’t trust my gut yet. But, I agree: prayer helps and so does self care. Thank you.
EB, bluejay and oxy – thanks. she’s so lovely. the idea of her never being able to ‘live’ or her dying either by his hand or through her inability to fight is just so wrong and painful.
I just read an excerp from How to talk to a narcissists … why does she say that all women involved with narcissistic men are borderlines?? I have not read women who love psychopaths yet will she say the same thing? Personally I do not identify with that label of myself sucker fits better kind loving caring and low self esteem maybe….
Spirit40 – I agree with you. The more I read the more I feel disordered. I was a sucker and a easy target. He was/is a serial exploiter,,nuff said.
Spirit40 and Hens…The book Women who Love Psychopaths points out the GOOD traits that get us (men too) sucked into these relationships…..such as empathy, strong commitment to relationships etc.
Just remember, no bad guy/woman, no problem! Our traits that many of us have in common don’t get us into trouble with GOOD people.
The one thing that many of us do have in common is growing up in circumstances, where to survive, we had to forgive, minimize, discount, disassociate, become highly tolerant of,whatever ABUSE. So to survive as kids, we couldn’t have good strong boundaries against abusive behavior because the people we depended upon to take care of us were abusive and we had no choice as children but to accept it. The abuse didn’t have to be severe to have that impact either.
But for whatever reason, I think our greatest VULNERABILITY is a willingness to ignore red flags, no matter what the reason. Or worse, to not even recognize red flags. But most of us do recognize them.
And it is not only that we are used to abuse. It can also be that we want so desperately for something to be true….As the betrayal bond book says, usually there is a story we believe in that explains why we and the other person are in this situation. There is a mission that we believe in. We also usually believe there is something special about the person, that leads us to be super tolerant, or has our guard down. And lastly there is a promise of some cherished dream coming true at last!
Could some of us be disordered in someway? Perhaps. But that is not a criteria for being a victim of these people.
Sprit, She may SAY that Narcissists attract BPDs, but that doesn’t make it SO! Narcissists (and frankly I think Ns are just Mini-psychopaths, i.e. the more “normal” end of the spectrum if you will. All Ps are Ns but “not all Ns are Ps” is what I have heard before too, but I think there really isn’t anything except a spectrum or continuum of say from Zero to 10, with Zero being pretty normal, and say 3-4 being an N on up to the 10 being the Ted Bundy/Charlie Manson.
However, it is fairly often though as I see it that there is a “gasoline and fire” relationship with two Ps get together in a relationship and abuse each other. Each one pretends to be what the other wants in terms of victim, but when the honeymoon is over, HERE IT GOES, UP IN SMOKE!
Those relationships are the ones that used to, and probably still does, make cops hate “domestic calls” because the guy would be beating the woman and when the cops got there, the woman would turn on the cops and “protect” her abuser.
In these relationships there may be a “BPD” or any other PD mated with a PPD, so that may be where this author is coming off. However, that is not ALWAYS or even MOSTLY the case, but it is NOT rare.
When such a relationshit ends, the “loser” will pose as a “Victim” (and OH, such an ABUSED pity party victim you have never seen before” they will HAM IT UP IN THEIR PITY POLY—but they are simply seeking another REAL VICTIM to take care of them, and to feed off of.
There are ways to spot these pseudo victims however, and the main one is that they will absolutely refuse to accept responsibility for their own choices. They are INNOCENT, OH, SOOOOOOO INNOCENT AND SOOOOOOO ABUSED, POOOOOOR THEM. Booo hoooo.
I notice them from time to time here on LF and the main thing is that they SUCK advice and comfort from others, but NEVER GIVE IT BACK to anyone else. It is allllll about their pain. OH THE PAIN! Now, we ALL get in a pity party from time to time, but between outbursts of pain, even with newbies, you notice they start to reach out and welcome others, to extend comfort to others, but not the VAMPIRES, they just keep on sucking with their hoovers and do not give back to anyone! It is ALL ABOUT THEM. Their pain is the worst. Much worse than yours of course. It is, like for any other N/S/P/ASPD ALL ABOUT ME! (Like all “RULES” there are exceptions to this!)
They hang around here for a while