When is history predictive of future behavior? Who can change? Who will change? Can sociopaths change? What is meaningful versus unmeaningful change?
I would argue that history is most predictive of future behavior when the mindset of the individual—especially the motivational mindset of the individual—remains static. By this I mean that short of a radicalized mindset, one can assume that the individual’s historical behaviors and attitudes will not change, at least not meaningfully.
So motivation goes directly to the question who is likely, or unlikely, to make changes in historical behavior patterns. One must ask, what is the individual’s motivation to change previous behavior?
This isn’t always easy to answer for several reasons—one, we can disguise our motives; also, we can want to believe that someone’s stated motive is their true motive, when it isn’t (sometimes against our better judgement). Plus, as change-intenders, we can also deceive ourselves about our own motives, further complicating the task of ascertaining the true motive(s) behind an intended change.
In the case of the sociopath, we can be quite sure of this: His motives will be self-serving (which alone isn’t necessarily a fatal problem). What makes the problem “fatal” is that the sociopath’s motives will be exclusively self-serving. Sure, he may be motivated to please you, but it will be, exclusively, to benefit himself (from his pleasing you).
This means the sociopath won’t be looking genuinely to benefit you with his change, but rather, principally (if not entirely) himself.
And so sociopaths, if motivated enough, can make changes. But one can’t stress enough that their motives to change will be shallow. Now it may not look like this on the surface—that is, a slick sociopath can seem to want to change with convincing, genuine intent. But eventually, often much too late for his partner, the underlying, dominating self-centeredness of his agenda will surface.
This is a fancy way of reminding ourselves that the sociopath is manifestly out for himself; thus any changes he endeavors will be pursued with the aim to protect and advance his interests, his gratifications; not yours.
Let’s consider the case of the abusive personality—more specifically, someone with a significant history as a serial emotional, if not physical, abuser. Can this individual change? And, if so, under what circumstances?
If he’s a sociopath, we have our answer—no. The sociopathic abuser is a flat-out hopeless case; he will never stop his abuse in a permanent, reliable way. The reason why is that he’s lacking an essential motivation: to want, genuinely, to cease his role as a cause of his partner’s suffering.
In the sociopath’s case, he lacks this motivation permanently because, basically, he lacks love and empathy for his partner. This is the sociopath’s essential defect—his incapacity to love and empathize maturely. He is primitively, functionally deficient in this respect. Consequently, he has no intrinsic incentives to sacrifice himself meaningfully (including to make meaningful changes), especially in the long-term, for others.
Can the sociopath cease his abuse temporarily? Yes, if the short-term incentives are strong enough. The sociopathic abuser can sometimes suspend his abuse just long enough to recapture what he wants (like renewed sexual attentions), or just long enough to avoid losing what he’s unprepared to lose (like a doting partner who makes his life convenient in many ways).
But bear in mind the shelf-life for his changes will be temporary; also, i think it bears repeating, these changes will be driven to improve his, not your, sense of security and comfort.
Conversely, where you have an abusive individual who is capable of feeling love and empathy for his partner, it is possible that he may reach a point of recognition that he no longer wants to be a cause, through his abuse, of his partner’s suffering. This is where the kernel of hope lies and where the work begins–from the recognition that one can no longer justify, or rationalize, being a source of suffering to another. However this requires a capacity to empathize; and where one feels love, as well as empathy, for one’s victims, then one has a chance to begin to work through one’s abusiveness.
Unfortunately chronic abusiveness is often associated with, and supported by, a highly narcissistic mindset, in which capacities for mature love and empathy are limited. This explains why it is often very difficult to treat successfully chronic relationship abusers.
(This article is copyrighted © 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of male gender pronouns is strictly for convenience’s sake and not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the attitudes and behaviors discussed.)
I haven’t eaten an animal knowingly in over 20 years. It is not necessary for human health. Dropped it the millisecond I learned it is not a biological requirement. I don’t think I could ever get emotionally involved with somebody who eats animals. It’s a core value. There is nothing humane about killing to eat when you don’t absolutely have to. I make exceptions for sustenance farmers in third world nations but that’s about it.
Thanks Oxy, no grudge held of course!
Dear Bluejay,
One thing I’ve noticed about grief (and it sounds like you are still in the grieving process) is that it tends to magnify all the past blows and sufferings to the point where it seems like that’s all that’s ever existed. In fact, it’s a lot like good Ms. Oxy’s diet struggles, where it probably seems to her (at the moment, at least!) like there’s never been anything in her life but HUNGER. Well, grief is the same way: when you’re in it, it seems like there’s never been anything BUT grief. (Which isn’t to minimize the other, earlier hardships you allude to – just to insist that they keep their proper proportion.) Of course, you can’t reason away grief anymore than you can reason away hunger. But if you stick it out long enough, it will ALWAYS lose its intensity and its hold over you – just as Oxy’s stomach will (one hopes) eventually stop growling! –Anyhow, I wish you the best.
libelle – your way of describing cancer patients is very insightful – I’d never thought of it in that manner!
Dear Constantine,
You are right about the hunger. The body actually sets a termastat of sorts…it depends on what you usually eat, plus the amount of light (time of year) and our body is iprogrammed to STORE extra food for hard times. It is only in the last few generations that with refrigeration and transportation and mechanical farming that most people in the “civilized world” have had sufficient food 12 months out of the year.
OUr bodies almost demand that we eat more than we need. Plus, if we are depressed those extra carbs give us the “feel good” chemicals in the brain and calm us down.
There are lots of reasons we over eat. I KNOW EVERY ONE OF THEM. But I STILL DID THEM. And told myself , “Oh, it’s only a pound or two, I’ll get rid of it later.” My psychological denial that kept me from taking any actions also contributed to this, so all around, it is now TIME FOR ME TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE and take off those pounds in spite of my body’s natural defenses tellng me I am starving (I am not it just feels like it!)
Oh, BTW , I’m not REALLY all that fat. I CAN STILL WEAR THE SAME EARRINGS I WORE IN HIGH SCHOOL!!!! LOL ROTFLMAO
Oxy, Oxy, Oxy you are soooo FUNNY! I read all these post to help me figure out why I attract spaths like crazy (no pun) and the laughter I experience when reading your posts is unfreakinbelievable girl! It is so healthy for us. Pleeze, pleeze keep it up.
I feel your pain. Last January my weight was way high for my height and I was developing health problems. I found that I qualified for our local senior fitness center and began working out regularly. I now go six days a week for at least an hour and I too restrict calories.
I do my BMI once a month and my calorie limit is 1350. I have lost about 20 pounds and several inches. I am hungry at night-that is the hardest time for me with all the commercials on the dang TV for the fast food. I finally quit TV-I got LF now!! It seems to help to stay away from the frickin boob toob.
Now that I am over 50 it is not easy to lose the actual pounds. The scale is slow in reflecting my hard work. The read out from the BMI machine is what I go by. My fat percentage has gone down!! YEAH BABY 🙂
I have trained my body to have only certain foods and only in certain quantities. Only downside is now the spaths are coming outta the woodwork! 🙂
I realized it was safe for me to be heavy. I was invisible. You know the story of my gym problem. I don’t let him get to me. NOTHING, not even a spath will keep me from my gym. I need to be healthy for my family-I am a single mom still with high schooler’s at home.
Hang in there Ox!
I have been struggling with whether to leave the state with my four year old son. His father, a serious sociopath nearly destroyed me during the custody battle. I was fortunate (and blessed by God) that the Judge saw him for who he is and ordered supervised visitation. I was also allowed to leave the state.
I would leave behind another son (from a previous marriage) who is 14 years old. He has a good relationship with his father, and I wouldn’t want to upset that. I feel guilty about leaving my older son. It’s like leaving one son to save another.
I would also leave behind a life that I’ve built in a state for the past 16 years, including a home and a very good job.
I also have the advantage of the courts here knowing the sociopath. I just fear that leaving will open up a whole new venue for him to “perform.” My fear is that he’d simply convince another court to give him our 4 year old son. On the other hand, I know that “supervised visitation” has a shelf life. The court will not be able to justify it forever, especially since he is has convinced the supervision monitors that he’s “so good with our son.” Oh, and he makes sure to bring lunch for everyone who happens to be in the office at the time of the supervision, along with plenty of new toys for our son.
I was reminded a few weeks ago, after my son contracted a cold sore on his face, from his father who has the oral herpes virus, that his dad REALLY will destroy him. When my son was a baby, I’d warned the sociopath many, many times not to make facial contact with our son when he had an outbreak or felt one coming on. None of this matter to him though, because his primary objective is to show the supervision monitors how much he loves his son — and that includes making exaggerated displays of affection. I’ve seen it for myself, so I know what he does. I told the director about it, but it was too late by then.
I would appreciate the thoughts of people who understand these sick people. Thanks.
This was a great article.
DEar Still standing,
I wish I could give you an answer—you are between the devil and the deep blue sea, a rock and a hard place. I’ve felt that pull from doing one thing for one kid that seems to take away from what the other one needs, and I do not have an answer for you.
My only suggest to find the answer is to PRAY and discuss it with people close to you that you can TRUST and see what the day to day situation is. With jobs not being easy to find that’s a consideration, and SUPPORT NETWORKS in other areas might be thin if any at all..so there are lots of things for you to consider.
I will keep you in my prayers–it is a difficult decision. (((Hugs))) and God Bless.
WOW!!!!!! and OMG!!!! Don’t ask me how i managed to find this site?! But i have been in a relationship with this man who is the Identical to the “ONES” described here. I was not looking for any site like this one however, i have been going through some really CONFUSING emotions bc of this man. Now it is all starting to make sense. Thought i was losing my mind….. Well i want to thank you all for this group.. I’ll be back on when i have more time but i think i have enough ammo now to fight without getting smeared. I just changed my phone #, which should be done today… WOW…. Thanks again….. Light and love, Caylin
and who sais that prayer dose’nt work?!
I haven’t been posting the past few days—-for several reasons, but one is that I was trying to just stop thinking about it all, & it seemed like I was dwelling on it more when I spent a lot of time in here. As I’ve discovered, I dwell on it More when I’m Not in here….probly because venting here helps me to, well, Vent it out!
Anyhow, I was reading the earlier comments, starting with hen’s, about gaslighting, & perfect examples of gaslighting. I have to admit that I hadn’t quite understood what “gaslighting” is…..but after what I read above, it seems to be when they turn it back on you—-to make it all your fault, to make you feel that there’s something wrong with you. Is that right?
If so, then are these examples of gaslighting?
*”yup, I am a creep and took complete advantage of everyone the entire time—let’s just leave it at that. probably not possible to understand. and you know the truth as well as I do. but best left alone—-I don’t want to tell you why I felt the way did or why i finally made up my mind to leave. it would be mean and is unnecessary. let’s just say I am a creep and not mentally well. that works.”
*”You have always thought money will buy you happiness. It will not and never will. I did all I can; i think you got by pretty cheap. Do you want to put a price on what I suffered and my mental anguish?”
[[I was pretty content with what I had until he came along & started telling me every week about the new deal he was making, & how much money he was going to make! And then he left me for a wealthy woman!]]
*”Please spare me of your negative thoughts and energy. I am finally moving on. i wish you nothing but the positive”
*”You have sent one too many poisonous letters to me and even worse to D. This has made it virtually impossible to write you in a kind manner—so, I haven’t.”
[[The letters of outrage after I found out he was married.]]
*”people respond really well to kindness and emotional support..they sort of wither and die without it. I am not terribly tough to begin with…especially these last 6-12 months.”
[[The months when he was spending more & more time with her]]
*”i have tried my best to be kind.”
*”I tried to do the best I could for you and, for me, to find a way out. As your behavior [[ my crying & begging & pleading for him to please come back ]] has shown over and over again, this wasn’t and isn’t easy.”
*”If you would have ever been aware and less self absorbed, you might have had some idea of what has been going on since I got out of prison.”
These comments from a man who’d been in a concurrent relationship with another woman for Four Years, (who he contacted shortly after he came home from prison, when I’d waited 2 yrs for him to get out) & who he married 7wks after he walked out on me….lying so efficiently, covering his tracks so well for 4 yrs that I’d never had the slightest thot that he’d do something like that!
I only knew that he’d become increasingly distant from me, & no longer wanted to have sex with me, (which he blamed on low testosterone & being in prison). No matter how “kind” he was with me—taking care of me, shopping, cooking, etc—I felt the distance, knew I wasn’t getting any emotional juice from him, could feel his body stiffen slightly when I’d put my arms around him….I knew there was distance, but I just thot it was a place we’d fallen into while he was focusing so much on work….
I still find myself claiming the blame…..