By Joyce Alexander, RNP (Retired)
I’ve been reading some interesting books lately by some very interesting researchers in the field of psychology—Dr. Barbara Oakley dealing with the themes of altruism, Dr. Simon Baron-Cohen on empathy, and others who are trying to discover what makes people altruistic and how empathy (or lack of it) affects how we behave toward our fellow men. I’ve come to some interesting conclusions concerning my own part in my abuse by multiple people who were/are high in psychopathic traits, and very low in empathy, compassion and altruistic behavior. I have wondered about my own ability to repeatedly “explain away” the abusive behavior that I experienced from family members and “friends,” and to expect that they would change their abusive behavior. What made me think that I could somehow, by appeasing them, forgiving them, and being kind and caring to these people, make them realize just how much they had hurt me, how much I had suffered at their hands? What made me think that I could effect a change in someone else’s character, or instill character into someone who so obviously had no conscience, empathy or remorse?
In my studying about psychopathic behavior in former associates and in family members who have actually repeatedly done horrific violence to others as well as toward me, including battery, rape and actual murders, I have finally come to the conclusion, like many researchers, Dr. Robert Hare, Dr. Simon Baron-Cohen and Dr. Barbara Oakley, that there is little if any chance that a person who is very high in psychopathic traits and very low in empathy, without conscience or the ability to feel remorse for their behavior, is going to effectively change, either in their thinking or their behavior. That much finally got through to me. There are some things that are impossible to do no matter how capable you are.
When a person has had a life-long pattern of bad and/or violent behavior, does not have effective empathy, which is necessary for a person to have a conscience (a personality disorder), the likelihood of change is minimal. “The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior” is a truism that is not likely to change, no matter how “politically correct” it is to wish otherwise.
There are some instances when a person has a medical condition (either genetic or acquired) that keeps them from having empathy—autism or brain damage from a stroke or head injury, for example. But not all people who are without “normal” levels of empathy are violent or seem to enjoy hurting others. For those people lacking empathy and conscience, who do seem to enjoy control over others, or simply seem to enjoy hurting others, there is no “hope.”
Helper’s high
What about those of us on the other hand, though, who seem to have a desire to help others? It has been shown by medical and psychological research that “helping” others gives a chemical “atta boy” to the brains of those who are the helpers. This chemical “reward” for doing good reinforces the desire to “help” others. We are genetically programmed as a species to “do good.” It is rewarding to us and has helped keep the human race alive because we cooperate, help each other, and are to some extent altruistic.
The “pleasure” centers in the human brain respond to chemical stimuli from various sources—from orgasm, from doing good, from various drugs, and from various activities, such as “the runner’s high” that come from physical exertion. It has even been shown that working with your hands to produce something useful gives a chemical reward to the brain. That may be why people like to knit, crochet, build things, fix food, etc. But why, when the reward for “doing good” to someone, especially someone you love, is also accompanied by such intense emotional and/or physical pain, do we keep on doing what causes us pain as well as the “reward” for doing good? Why are we willing to endure the pain in addition to receiving the “reward” for “doing good?”
Narcissism
Some people high in psychopathic traits seem to be extremely high in narcissism, to the point that it is very obvious that they value themselves so far above others as to absolutely have no idea that anyone else has any value at all. They view others as lower than an object, but to the point that the very existence of other people is an insult to the highly narcissistic person. It seems as if the chemical reward for them for “doing good” is replaced by the desire for control.
If the narcissism is very apparent, people around the narcissist may notice this to the point that they don’t want to be around such a person. He is considered “stuck up” and we have probably been told from grade school on up that we should not “brag on ourselves” because it isn’t polite and others won’t like us. So the narcissism that is very apparent may be “off putting” to others around the person. Many people who are very narcissistic, though, have trained themselves not to appear as narcissistic as they actually feel. In other words, they have learned “good manners,” or to mask their true emotions. Those that don’t learn to conceal high levels of narcissism may not be very “popular.” A healthy level of narcissism, though, is an accurate self-assessment of your own abilities. The person who is very narcissistic may not be actually as smart or as competent as he thinks he is, however.
Self-assessment
I’m smart. I know that. I am capable and very able in learning how to do complex tasks such as fly an aircraft, knit, crochet, built things, train animals. I have led a life based on being a “can do” person. I’m somewhat justifiably proud of what I have accomplished in my life. That narcissism is a healthy level of self-assessment of my talents and abilities—yet my narcissism went further than that, I think, into making me think that there was nothing I couldn’t accomplish. Because I could do so many things, and do them well, I overestimated my ability to cope with the people in my life who were high in psychopathic traits and dysfunctional in relationships. I was too narcissistic in thinking I was able to accomplish the impossible—fixing dysfunctional relationships and dysfunctional people.
I think in part, my narcissism was because there were so few things I couldn’t accomplish if I set my mind to it and worked hard at acquiring the knowledge and skills to learn a new task, and perform it well. It never occurred to me that I could not also be “successful” in fixing a bad relationship with a person who had no conscience. Just as my psychopathic son, Patrick, who is extremely bright and also extremely narcissistic, never had any trouble in school, decided there was no one on earth as smart as he was, and that because he was smart, he could “get away with” anything. It never occurred to him that there were cops that were “smart enough” to catch him. Even when he was caught in his most violent crimes, crimes he didn’t even try to cover up, it never occurred to him that he would not be successful next time. When he was caught again, his narcissistic idea that he was the smartest, most capable person on Earth didn’t let him realize that he was wrong. His narcissism precluded him having an accurate self-assessment, or assessment of the capabilities of others.
I too was very narcissistic in my appraisal of my own abilities to effect change in these people, no matter how many times I failed in effecting change in them. No matter how many times I failed, or how bad the pain was because of my failure, it never dawned on me that I wasn’t capable of success if I just tried harder in this endeavor. If I just gave more of myself, if I was just more selfless, more giving, surely next time I would succeed. My own narcissism kept me in the game. My own desire to effect change in someone else’s behavior was fueled by my narcissism, by my poor self-assessment of my abilities.
Ignoring the danger
If a horse or a steer was aggressive and I was not able to effect change in the animal’s behavior, I would eventually give up when the animal continued to try to hurt me. I could at some point come to the conclusion that the potential harm to myself was not worth the effort of trying to control the animal’s violent tendencies. Though I am an excellent animal trainer, I know that not even the best animal trainer in the world can make some animals safe to work with, and the danger of trying to continue to do so foolish. Why could I not see that where it concerned dangerous humans?
Why was I willing to put myself, my life and my health, to say nothing of my happiness and peace, at risk in order to maintain a “relationship” with dangerous people for extended periods of time, decades in some cases? Why did I focus on the potential reward of changing their abusive behavior instead of on the pain they caused?
Family secrets
Part of the answer, I believe, lies in the way I was conditioned in my family, that the family “secrets” must be kept at all costs so that the “neighbors didn’t know.” This culture of shame, and covering up the general knowledge in the larger community that our family was not a “nice normal family” was handed down for generations by abusers and enablers working together to hide the family dysfunction. I participated in this “cover up” by keeping information about my son Patrick’s crimes from general knowledge of my extended family and “the neighbors” for years. I participated in the family myth that he had “found Jesus” when I knew otherwise. I participated in “family Christmas” celebrations that were a travesty and were anything except a “Norman Rockwell Christmas.” I think partly because I was so narcissistic that I thought if I just kept up the pretense long enough it would become real ”¦ especially if the “neighbors didn’t know.”
My coming out of this FOG (fear, obligation and guilt) was traumatic for me as well as for my family members who were as invested in this fantasy family as I was. That change from the status quo on my part released the “hounds of hell” within the family dynamics and resulted in my psychopathic son, Patrick, sending one of his ex-convict buddies to try to regain control of the family, since he couldn’t do this by emotional manipulation from inside his prison cell. He would kill me, if that is what it took in order for him to regain control. Several members of my family co-conspired with him, or at least knew what was going on and did nothing to stop the attack on me. Maintaining the status quo within the dysfunctional family was of paramount importance for everyone involved. Maintaining the FOG without change felt secure to them. Life was predictable. Change was scary.
Seeing the light
It was only the fear of actually losing my life that made me “see the light,” and see just how dangerously I had been behaving in trying to convince myself that I could effect change in these people. They had no conscience, no empathy, and enjoyed a high level of narcissism that made them believe themselves invincible. I too had felt invincible, and was way too narcissistic in my own self-assessment of what my capabilities were. I could not control these people, I could not change them, and they were too dangerous to deal with.
Now I try to look at myself more realistically, and to see that while I am a smart, capable person, there are some things that I am not capable of, and I need to be aware of these things. While I was realistic and humble enough to realize that there are some animals I can’t safely train, I am now humble enough to admit there are some dangerous people I can’t afford to associate with either, no matter how altruistic I feel or how much reward I get from helping others. The rewards I get from being “helpful” to others must also be tempered with the humility that I am not all-powerful in my abilities with people, any more than I am with animals. Just as I must assess the potential benefit of helping a person or training an animal, I must also assess the potential “costs” in terms I can afford to pay. While I still feel good when I am able to help someone else, I am no longer willing to overlook the repeated bad behavior of others and convince myself that if I am just “helpful enough” that I can change them.
I must take responsibility for my own life, my own behavior, and set my boundaries in such a way that I eliminate those dangerous relationships, no matter how smart or capable I am in other aspects of my life. There are just some things we can’t accomplish no matter how hard we work, and changing someone else is one of those things.
Oxy,
Thank you so much sharing for this wonderful article. Your wisdom helps us all.
Donna, you and Liane, Kathy, M.L., Steve, and the many other authors and bloggers here have been the source of my “wisdom” and learning…both about my relationships with the psychopaths and my relationship with myself.
I came to this blog just a little over four years ago a total emotional wreck, living in an RV on a friend’s lot near a lake because it wasn’t physically safe to live in my own home because of the psychopaths in and around my family.
The first thing that impressed me about LoveFraud was the intelligence and kindness of the authors and articulate comments from the bloggers.
The second thing that impressed me about LoveFraud was the fact that flaming was not tolerated or encouraged.
The third thing was that you recognized that our healing journey is not without a spiritual aspect as well as an emotional one and provided an atmosphere in which that spirituality could be expressed and fostered…no matter what the beliefs of each blogger were/are.
Over the four years I have been here as a blogger/author on Love Fraud, I have seen many people come and go as bloggers and authors, but I am still here because I still gain new insights about myself and healing every day from LoveFraud and the people here. Thank you Donna for all the hard work you and Terry do to maintain the LoveFraud site.
Oxy,
Aw, shucks, you warm my heart. I’m just glad that all of our negative experiences are helping others heal and move on.
Oxy,
What a wonderful article! Thank-you….
My therapist was the one who initially pointed out to me that my own ‘narcissism’ was partly to blame for why I kept trying to fix the unfixable. After my inital shame over hearing that we dug into the reasons why my healthy narcissism had gotten warped.
Poor early parenting/mirroring, and then a highly dysfunctional family…with lots of secrets.
It’s funny, I write on this blog every once in a while and nearly every time I think about what I am writing and realize I’ve learned what I’ve learned, in large part, right here. From you, Ms. Hawk, Steve, Donna, etc…..
My gratitude for this learning grows and grows, along with my healing.
Thanks again for mirroring that learning and being an example of what happens when we ‘See the Light’…..
xo, Slim
What a great article. It really gets to the heart of how we become victims of spaths. They go after strong, competent, responsible people because they envy us. And then they use our own strengths to suck us in by asking us to bear the burden of helping them become better people or achieve their goals.
Because we know we ARE strong, we think it won’t be much work to assist a fellow human being, but they have other plans. They sabotage all our efforts to help them, laughing all the while, as we redouble our efforts, because that goal seems just within reach. Then, they pull the carrot away at the last second. By this time we’ve invested so much time and energy into them, that we’ve lost focus of anything else we were doing. We’ve forgotten all of our other goals, friends, family. It becomes all about them. Which is what they wanted in the first place.
They’ve successfully isolated us and make us feel like failures, at the same time. We begin to doubt our abilities, we see our lives in shambles, we wonder how we got here. That’s when they discard us like used toilet tissue. They’ve sucked the life out of us, there is nothing left to use, we aren’t as shiny and desirable as we were before.
All this because we were narcissistic enough to think that we should bear someone else’s burden.
To me the road to healing started in trying to figure them out, find out what they were —-with the purpose of course, of knowing more so I could more easily FIX THEM! LOL ROTFLMAO Got to learn about horses before you can train one, got to learn about dogs before you can train one,, got to learn about psychopaths before you can FIX ONE!
I remember back when My son Patrick was first starting his life of crime and I keep thinking if I COULD FIND JUST THE RIGHT WORDS to get through to him, I could get him to see he was wrecking his life. LOL JUST THE RIGHT WORDS. I knew there were some “right words” out there somewhere because I could fix almost everything, and if I couldn’t it was because I just couldn’t find the RIGHT WORDS for that situation, but I knew there HAD TO BE “RIGHT WORDS” FOR EVERY SITUATION.
It was so frustrating “knowing” (I thought) that there WERE “right words” but I just couldn’t find them YET—but I’d keep on trying before it was too late and my beloved son Patrick ended up with a —GASP— “Criminal record”—that just didn’t happen in “our family!” When he proved me wrong on that one and did get his first ADULT felony crime, I kept thinking about how if I just kept people in Arkansas from knowing, he could still come back up here and get a college degree and still have a life in spite of the felony record…all he had to do was keep his nose clean from here on in, and though it precluded him from having some jobs because of the felony record, he would still be able to do a lot of good things in spite of that….and if people up here didn’t know, they wouldn’t “hold it against him.” I had to keep those secrets. Keep the neighbors and extended family from finding out…no matter what it cost me in terms of emotional “coin.”
And hey, I’m not for airing every tiff you have have with your spouse, or every argument you have with you kid to the whole world, but keeping the “family secrets” by covering up serious drinking, drugging, crime, cheating, thefts and other felonies, etc. doesn’t do you or THEM any good at all. Covering up for you kid when YOU (but not the store owner) catching him shoplifting isn’t the way to handle it either. We have to set examples for our kids, but expect them to follow those examples by making them responsible for their own behavior to the extent that it is possible to “make” anyone do anything.
When my husband and I discovered my Son Patrick had robbed our friend’s business during the night (stealing our car out of the yard to haul the loot) we called the cops. If it had been YOUR son I would have called the cops, and just because it was MY son didn’t give me a pass to do what was right….besides, I was narcissistic enough to think that some day he would thank me for it as he was only 17 and that “juvy” record would be sealed and maybe this would “snap him out of” his crime spree.
Dealing with a psychopath, however, they don’t EVER thank you for a narcissistic injury or for “besting” them in any kind of contest of wills and control. He hates me to this day for calling the police….and the girl he killed in 1992 was murdered because she “ratted him out” to the cops…therefore deserved to die, in his mind.
Getting into a “leg hiking” contest like two dogs trying to claim dominance and territory with a psychopath can be fatal, they are the human equivalent of a pit bull dog and if you challenge them, they may very well turn on you and eat your lunch. I no longer believe I can win a contest of wills in hand to hand combat with a psychopath. When you can’t fight harder, fight smarter.
Fantastic article! I needed to read this right now. I’m struggling so much with my complicity, trying to focus NOT on the things he did, but how and why I allowed it to happen, what I did to foster and nurture his behavior. The first paragraph under “Self Assessment”… wow. Yes!
Early on, when I thought I was “simply” dealing with a Narcissist, I read something along the lines of “Only a Narcissist would think they could fix a Narcissist…” It really helped me to see my own tendencies that went beyond the norm. But I think by then I was so caught up in the cycle, and the high — as the author says, “endure the pain in addition to receiving the “reward” for “doing good…”
I am on a roller coaster of emotions. Relieved, little bursts of joy, followed by sadness, anger, awe at the destruction this relationship caused in both of our lives. His life is in shambles right now. It’s hard for me not to feel responsible for that. I could’ve walked away at any time. He keeps saying that he kept trying to forget about me, and I kept drawing him back in. It makes me feel like *I’m* the sociopath. I know I keep repeating myself on this. I’m sorry. It’s hard for me not to feel responsible. He told me that he was the weak and vulnerable one, and I saw the opportunity and pounced. It’s so hard for me to see what the truth is here. I read what Ox has posted about dual Spath relationships, co-abusive relationships, etc., and it triggers an “oh shit” response. Is that what this was? Did I f*ck with him just as much as he f*cked with me? That scares me.
But then I think about things like all the times I said to him, “I am a HUMAN BEING. I have FEELINGS.” And last week, he was hovering over me, boxing me in, intimidating me under the guise of affection and sweetness, and said, “You know what I think? You are a human being, and you have feelings,” with this sick drunk smile on his face. He was mocking me. I never, ever, ever treated him like that. If I ever thought I’d hurt his feelings or bruised his ego, it crushed me. I never heard an apology from him. He would get mad at me when I would show emotion over anything he said or did.
I’m rambling. I’m sorry. This is the first day after I told him not to contact me any more. I’m all over the board.
Oxy –
Such a wonderful post – very good self-assesment.
I have a real bad migraine here at work today, otherwise I’d try to come up with some other words… but today the simplest is the best for me..
so… Thank You! I’m so glad you have spoken out and up.
Dear Sarahsmile,
Glad you liked my article….and yes, I think all of us who were so “narcissistic” to think we can fix them are capable and competent people….we just gave ourselves credit for being able to do the IMPOSSIBLE….and we can’t. That doesn’t mean though that we aren’t able to do the POSSIBLE!
Yes, you have feelings, and yes, you have compassion and can feel remorse and guilt….things that are very difficult for the person high in psychopathic traits, some of them have zero empathy, zero compassion and zero guilt or remorse….that’s what makes them high in psychopathic traits and us high in altruistic feelings. That’s why we get “high” on doing good and they don’t.
He is PROJECTING on to you….he is accusing you of being what he IS….HOLD ON TO NO CONTACT LIKE IT IS YOUR LIFE! Because it IS your life….your NEW, GOOD, WONDERFUL LIFE….and you can only get there by CLINGING TO NO CONTACT! (((hugs)))) You can do it. God bless.
Inspiring – That’s the word I was waiting for.
You are definitely an inspiration to all of us here at LF – with your story and your frying pan…
Thank you so much