By Joyce Alexander, RNP (Retired)
I’ve been reading some interesting books lately by some very interesting researchers in the field of psychology—Dr. Barbara Oakley dealing with the themes of altruism, Dr. Simon Baron-Cohen on empathy, and others who are trying to discover what makes people altruistic and how empathy (or lack of it) affects how we behave toward our fellow men. I’ve come to some interesting conclusions concerning my own part in my abuse by multiple people who were/are high in psychopathic traits, and very low in empathy, compassion and altruistic behavior. I have wondered about my own ability to repeatedly “explain away” the abusive behavior that I experienced from family members and “friends,” and to expect that they would change their abusive behavior. What made me think that I could somehow, by appeasing them, forgiving them, and being kind and caring to these people, make them realize just how much they had hurt me, how much I had suffered at their hands? What made me think that I could effect a change in someone else’s character, or instill character into someone who so obviously had no conscience, empathy or remorse?
In my studying about psychopathic behavior in former associates and in family members who have actually repeatedly done horrific violence to others as well as toward me, including battery, rape and actual murders, I have finally come to the conclusion, like many researchers, Dr. Robert Hare, Dr. Simon Baron-Cohen and Dr. Barbara Oakley, that there is little if any chance that a person who is very high in psychopathic traits and very low in empathy, without conscience or the ability to feel remorse for their behavior, is going to effectively change, either in their thinking or their behavior. That much finally got through to me. There are some things that are impossible to do no matter how capable you are.
When a person has had a life-long pattern of bad and/or violent behavior, does not have effective empathy, which is necessary for a person to have a conscience (a personality disorder), the likelihood of change is minimal. “The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior” is a truism that is not likely to change, no matter how “politically correct” it is to wish otherwise.
There are some instances when a person has a medical condition (either genetic or acquired) that keeps them from having empathy—autism or brain damage from a stroke or head injury, for example. But not all people who are without “normal” levels of empathy are violent or seem to enjoy hurting others. For those people lacking empathy and conscience, who do seem to enjoy control over others, or simply seem to enjoy hurting others, there is no “hope.”
Helper’s high
What about those of us on the other hand, though, who seem to have a desire to help others? It has been shown by medical and psychological research that “helping” others gives a chemical “atta boy” to the brains of those who are the helpers. This chemical “reward” for doing good reinforces the desire to “help” others. We are genetically programmed as a species to “do good.” It is rewarding to us and has helped keep the human race alive because we cooperate, help each other, and are to some extent altruistic.
The “pleasure” centers in the human brain respond to chemical stimuli from various sources—from orgasm, from doing good, from various drugs, and from various activities, such as “the runner’s high” that come from physical exertion. It has even been shown that working with your hands to produce something useful gives a chemical reward to the brain. That may be why people like to knit, crochet, build things, fix food, etc. But why, when the reward for “doing good” to someone, especially someone you love, is also accompanied by such intense emotional and/or physical pain, do we keep on doing what causes us pain as well as the “reward” for doing good? Why are we willing to endure the pain in addition to receiving the “reward” for “doing good?”
Narcissism
Some people high in psychopathic traits seem to be extremely high in narcissism, to the point that it is very obvious that they value themselves so far above others as to absolutely have no idea that anyone else has any value at all. They view others as lower than an object, but to the point that the very existence of other people is an insult to the highly narcissistic person. It seems as if the chemical reward for them for “doing good” is replaced by the desire for control.
If the narcissism is very apparent, people around the narcissist may notice this to the point that they don’t want to be around such a person. He is considered “stuck up” and we have probably been told from grade school on up that we should not “brag on ourselves” because it isn’t polite and others won’t like us. So the narcissism that is very apparent may be “off putting” to others around the person. Many people who are very narcissistic, though, have trained themselves not to appear as narcissistic as they actually feel. In other words, they have learned “good manners,” or to mask their true emotions. Those that don’t learn to conceal high levels of narcissism may not be very “popular.” A healthy level of narcissism, though, is an accurate self-assessment of your own abilities. The person who is very narcissistic may not be actually as smart or as competent as he thinks he is, however.
Self-assessment
I’m smart. I know that. I am capable and very able in learning how to do complex tasks such as fly an aircraft, knit, crochet, built things, train animals. I have led a life based on being a “can do” person. I’m somewhat justifiably proud of what I have accomplished in my life. That narcissism is a healthy level of self-assessment of my talents and abilities—yet my narcissism went further than that, I think, into making me think that there was nothing I couldn’t accomplish. Because I could do so many things, and do them well, I overestimated my ability to cope with the people in my life who were high in psychopathic traits and dysfunctional in relationships. I was too narcissistic in thinking I was able to accomplish the impossible—fixing dysfunctional relationships and dysfunctional people.
I think in part, my narcissism was because there were so few things I couldn’t accomplish if I set my mind to it and worked hard at acquiring the knowledge and skills to learn a new task, and perform it well. It never occurred to me that I could not also be “successful” in fixing a bad relationship with a person who had no conscience. Just as my psychopathic son, Patrick, who is extremely bright and also extremely narcissistic, never had any trouble in school, decided there was no one on earth as smart as he was, and that because he was smart, he could “get away with” anything. It never occurred to him that there were cops that were “smart enough” to catch him. Even when he was caught in his most violent crimes, crimes he didn’t even try to cover up, it never occurred to him that he would not be successful next time. When he was caught again, his narcissistic idea that he was the smartest, most capable person on Earth didn’t let him realize that he was wrong. His narcissism precluded him having an accurate self-assessment, or assessment of the capabilities of others.
I too was very narcissistic in my appraisal of my own abilities to effect change in these people, no matter how many times I failed in effecting change in them. No matter how many times I failed, or how bad the pain was because of my failure, it never dawned on me that I wasn’t capable of success if I just tried harder in this endeavor. If I just gave more of myself, if I was just more selfless, more giving, surely next time I would succeed. My own narcissism kept me in the game. My own desire to effect change in someone else’s behavior was fueled by my narcissism, by my poor self-assessment of my abilities.
Ignoring the danger
If a horse or a steer was aggressive and I was not able to effect change in the animal’s behavior, I would eventually give up when the animal continued to try to hurt me. I could at some point come to the conclusion that the potential harm to myself was not worth the effort of trying to control the animal’s violent tendencies. Though I am an excellent animal trainer, I know that not even the best animal trainer in the world can make some animals safe to work with, and the danger of trying to continue to do so foolish. Why could I not see that where it concerned dangerous humans?
Why was I willing to put myself, my life and my health, to say nothing of my happiness and peace, at risk in order to maintain a “relationship” with dangerous people for extended periods of time, decades in some cases? Why did I focus on the potential reward of changing their abusive behavior instead of on the pain they caused?
Family secrets
Part of the answer, I believe, lies in the way I was conditioned in my family, that the family “secrets” must be kept at all costs so that the “neighbors didn’t know.” This culture of shame, and covering up the general knowledge in the larger community that our family was not a “nice normal family” was handed down for generations by abusers and enablers working together to hide the family dysfunction. I participated in this “cover up” by keeping information about my son Patrick’s crimes from general knowledge of my extended family and “the neighbors” for years. I participated in the family myth that he had “found Jesus” when I knew otherwise. I participated in “family Christmas” celebrations that were a travesty and were anything except a “Norman Rockwell Christmas.” I think partly because I was so narcissistic that I thought if I just kept up the pretense long enough it would become real ”¦ especially if the “neighbors didn’t know.”
My coming out of this FOG (fear, obligation and guilt) was traumatic for me as well as for my family members who were as invested in this fantasy family as I was. That change from the status quo on my part released the “hounds of hell” within the family dynamics and resulted in my psychopathic son, Patrick, sending one of his ex-convict buddies to try to regain control of the family, since he couldn’t do this by emotional manipulation from inside his prison cell. He would kill me, if that is what it took in order for him to regain control. Several members of my family co-conspired with him, or at least knew what was going on and did nothing to stop the attack on me. Maintaining the status quo within the dysfunctional family was of paramount importance for everyone involved. Maintaining the FOG without change felt secure to them. Life was predictable. Change was scary.
Seeing the light
It was only the fear of actually losing my life that made me “see the light,” and see just how dangerously I had been behaving in trying to convince myself that I could effect change in these people. They had no conscience, no empathy, and enjoyed a high level of narcissism that made them believe themselves invincible. I too had felt invincible, and was way too narcissistic in my own self-assessment of what my capabilities were. I could not control these people, I could not change them, and they were too dangerous to deal with.
Now I try to look at myself more realistically, and to see that while I am a smart, capable person, there are some things that I am not capable of, and I need to be aware of these things. While I was realistic and humble enough to realize that there are some animals I can’t safely train, I am now humble enough to admit there are some dangerous people I can’t afford to associate with either, no matter how altruistic I feel or how much reward I get from helping others. The rewards I get from being “helpful” to others must also be tempered with the humility that I am not all-powerful in my abilities with people, any more than I am with animals. Just as I must assess the potential benefit of helping a person or training an animal, I must also assess the potential “costs” in terms I can afford to pay. While I still feel good when I am able to help someone else, I am no longer willing to overlook the repeated bad behavior of others and convince myself that if I am just “helpful enough” that I can change them.
I must take responsibility for my own life, my own behavior, and set my boundaries in such a way that I eliminate those dangerous relationships, no matter how smart or capable I am in other aspects of my life. There are just some things we can’t accomplish no matter how hard we work, and changing someone else is one of those things.
I have been an avid fan of this web site for several weeks now and I have to say this is one of my most favorite blogs. What astounds me the most about all of the posts is how eerily similar our situations are. I arrived here after 5 years of slowly, meticulously, being played and used by a man that I would have laid my life down for. I defended this guy to everyone who tried to talk me out of the relationship. It is amazing how clearly other people could see what love will blind you to. Mine is also the “King” of projection, he would constantly say “I can’t do anything right for you” but in reality I would be the one doing all the doing right while he led a life of freedom from any adult responsibilities. I paid all the bills, I supported him while he was in prison, I took in his kids, and I bought him jewelry and clothes, a truck, his medical bills, on and on and on. He lies about everything, even things he doesn’t have to lie about. I never knew lying was a sport until I met this guy. He is smooth like butter, handsome as they come and all macho, alpha male. Life owes him just rewards. We are all here to serve him. He once told me “watch me I will collect people who can do things for me” and it was true, men and women flock to him and I guess in my own narcissistic haze I thought I was privileged to have such a smart, savvy husband. Only problem, I was the biggest prize collected of all. I used to say “he says all the right words but his actions never seem to match the words.” He would tell me he loved me constantly, lavish me with affectionate touches, yet let me pawn my jewelry when we couldn’t pay the bills, let me drive my car to the shop when the brakes were failing, call me every vile name you can think of when I made him mad and if I really backed him into a corner threaten to murder my children. Nothing is ever his fault, every ex was crazy and my memories of events were always wrong. He made me feel out of control crazy for years.
I found this web site and started to read several of the authors mentioned here and I came to the realization of what he really is and that it isn’t possible for him to love me or anyone. Now I also have some insight as to why I fell for it. I am a very intelligent, educated, successful woman but I too am a “Fixer”. I train horses, dogs, raised 4 kids to be contributing members of society and I have a soft spot for anything in need of fixen’. I too don’t have a single doubt that I can do anything if I work at it hard enough but Oxy you are so right some critters can’t be fixed or even made right enough to live among us without being a constant threat. My heart aches for all you parents whose children fall into this category, I can’t even imagine the long hard years of trying to support and nurture someone with this void of basic human compassion and conscience. It would be like cutting off your own limb to have to sever that tie but like having to amputate an arm infected with gangrene that is what you have to do or they will eventually destroy you.
I tried so many times with this man to make things better. If only I did this or I only did that, but it was futile, he would act differently for a few days but he would always revert back to his true nature and then I would feel more and more defeated. This is the cruel cycle they use and it is very effective because I think for most people, you get so beaten down you give in or like his Mother you are so deep in denial that you won’t ever stop the cycle. I have stopped the cycle. I filed for divorce a few weeks ago and he finally moved out last weekend. Now I start probably the hardest phase of NC. I will make that list of all the things he did to control, use and abuse me and I will post copies of it on my mirrors. I have to constantly remind myself why he can’t ever be the man I thought he was. I will now have to be self analyzing every time I develop a friendship or relationship. You know in one of our last fights he said “You are such a stupid girl, you believe anything anybody tells you”! Of course he wasn’t talking about something he said but it was like a holy epiphany—I FINALLY GOT IT!
One/Joy ~ sending hugs and well wishes your way! Make em take care of you!
h2h
Ivory566,
Good for you (filing for divorce). Once we reallize what type of person we’re involved with, it becomes easier to separate ourselves from them, knowing that the craziness (coming from their end) will never stop. I wish you well in reclaiming normalcy.
Ivory,
excellent post. You summarized the classic user/abuser spath.
They know what they are and what they do. And they revel in it. This PD is getting outed and the sooner the better. We have to leave them no place left to hide.
Welcome to real sanity, not the mask of sanity.
Thanks Skylar and Bluejay, this site has been a Godsend!
Dear Ivory,
TOWANDA for you, Chickie!!!!! When you said “prison” I knew—if you haven’t heard me preach on that one, there ARE NO EX CONVICTS, JUST CONVICTS! That is a huge red flag.
You will eventually be able to trust yourself to find good people and to have them in your life without being scared shiatless. But once you set your mind to it, YOU CAN DO ANYTHING…EXCEPT FIX A PSYCHOPATH! You CAN do NC, you CAN stand up, you CAN take care of YOU!!!!!
So welcome to Lovefraud, Ivory! You are on the right path and NC will keep you on the right path. Before you contact him or allow him to contact you….come here. That’s all it takes, because there are lots of good people here to support you! God bless!
One/Joy, hang in there kiddo! FIGHT the infection! (((hugs))) and my prayers!
I have a concern. The woman I stayed with this summer had told me earlier on that she takes me as her own child because I don’t have much family. I appreciated it until she started to want to change me as a person. She didn’t like the way I dress because she believes in simplistic clothing. I love fashion so putting outfits together is a favorite. She constantly hated everything and anything I put on even the more modest wear. She and her daughter is a more of a t-shirt/jeans kinda woman. Fashion is the last thing in their mind. She tried to enforce some of her beliefs and traditions on me as well. But what really takes the cake is her getting involved in my family affairs. For example, she visits my family often and thinks as a “child” I’m supposed to call my family. She thinks I have no right to choose what’s best for me. So she called earlier and yelled at me because I haven’t called my grandmother. She had went by her house. She wants our families to be together which means she really wants me to be with her son. Personally, I just want her back at a distance in my life and stay out of my family life. She has no idea what’s goes on and the chaos. I’ve chosen to limit my family contact and she’s like I’m wrong and Honor thy mother and father. My concern is what are some strategies on how to keep her at a distance and to get the “mother in law” idea out of her head. It’s annoying and stressful.
Dear Hurtnomore,
Well, for one, use caller ID and don’t answer her phone calls. You are NOT obligated to allow this woman to yell at you. If she gets you on the phone and starts that say “I can hear in the tone of your voice that you are angry with me, and I don’t like it when people yell at me, so I am going to hang up now and when you are less angry maybe we can talk then. CLICK” (*the sound of you hanging up!)
People who “butt in” to your life will always be there….and she is trying to manipulate you.
Keep in mind that you will be leaving for college soon….so avoid her as much as you can until then. YOU have the right to make your own decisions about how you interact with others, and she has NO right to try to manipulate you. Be FRANK with her if you must talk to her, but avoid her as much as you can. In the future, don’t accept “favors” from your family or others in the groups that interact with your family. You may just have to cut them all out and form new associations and friends. It takes work, but I’ve made it happen. Good luck!
OxDrover- Its just that it gets lonely not having my immediate family. I’ve cut out most of my mom side. For some reason, my dad side doesn’t attempt to get too involved. At college, some of my friends just don’t understand what it’s like to not have a mom to call to do things for them. It gets lonely too during family weekend. My “family” keeps getting smaller.