By Joyce Alexander, RNP (Retired)
I’ve been reading some interesting books lately by some very interesting researchers in the field of psychology—Dr. Barbara Oakley dealing with the themes of altruism, Dr. Simon Baron-Cohen on empathy, and others who are trying to discover what makes people altruistic and how empathy (or lack of it) affects how we behave toward our fellow men. I’ve come to some interesting conclusions concerning my own part in my abuse by multiple people who were/are high in psychopathic traits, and very low in empathy, compassion and altruistic behavior. I have wondered about my own ability to repeatedly “explain away” the abusive behavior that I experienced from family members and “friends,” and to expect that they would change their abusive behavior. What made me think that I could somehow, by appeasing them, forgiving them, and being kind and caring to these people, make them realize just how much they had hurt me, how much I had suffered at their hands? What made me think that I could effect a change in someone else’s character, or instill character into someone who so obviously had no conscience, empathy or remorse?
In my studying about psychopathic behavior in former associates and in family members who have actually repeatedly done horrific violence to others as well as toward me, including battery, rape and actual murders, I have finally come to the conclusion, like many researchers, Dr. Robert Hare, Dr. Simon Baron-Cohen and Dr. Barbara Oakley, that there is little if any chance that a person who is very high in psychopathic traits and very low in empathy, without conscience or the ability to feel remorse for their behavior, is going to effectively change, either in their thinking or their behavior. That much finally got through to me. There are some things that are impossible to do no matter how capable you are.
When a person has had a life-long pattern of bad and/or violent behavior, does not have effective empathy, which is necessary for a person to have a conscience (a personality disorder), the likelihood of change is minimal. “The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior” is a truism that is not likely to change, no matter how “politically correct” it is to wish otherwise.
There are some instances when a person has a medical condition (either genetic or acquired) that keeps them from having empathy—autism or brain damage from a stroke or head injury, for example. But not all people who are without “normal” levels of empathy are violent or seem to enjoy hurting others. For those people lacking empathy and conscience, who do seem to enjoy control over others, or simply seem to enjoy hurting others, there is no “hope.”
Helper’s high
What about those of us on the other hand, though, who seem to have a desire to help others? It has been shown by medical and psychological research that “helping” others gives a chemical “atta boy” to the brains of those who are the helpers. This chemical “reward” for doing good reinforces the desire to “help” others. We are genetically programmed as a species to “do good.” It is rewarding to us and has helped keep the human race alive because we cooperate, help each other, and are to some extent altruistic.
The “pleasure” centers in the human brain respond to chemical stimuli from various sources—from orgasm, from doing good, from various drugs, and from various activities, such as “the runner’s high” that come from physical exertion. It has even been shown that working with your hands to produce something useful gives a chemical reward to the brain. That may be why people like to knit, crochet, build things, fix food, etc. But why, when the reward for “doing good” to someone, especially someone you love, is also accompanied by such intense emotional and/or physical pain, do we keep on doing what causes us pain as well as the “reward” for doing good? Why are we willing to endure the pain in addition to receiving the “reward” for “doing good?”
Narcissism
Some people high in psychopathic traits seem to be extremely high in narcissism, to the point that it is very obvious that they value themselves so far above others as to absolutely have no idea that anyone else has any value at all. They view others as lower than an object, but to the point that the very existence of other people is an insult to the highly narcissistic person. It seems as if the chemical reward for them for “doing good” is replaced by the desire for control.
If the narcissism is very apparent, people around the narcissist may notice this to the point that they don’t want to be around such a person. He is considered “stuck up” and we have probably been told from grade school on up that we should not “brag on ourselves” because it isn’t polite and others won’t like us. So the narcissism that is very apparent may be “off putting” to others around the person. Many people who are very narcissistic, though, have trained themselves not to appear as narcissistic as they actually feel. In other words, they have learned “good manners,” or to mask their true emotions. Those that don’t learn to conceal high levels of narcissism may not be very “popular.” A healthy level of narcissism, though, is an accurate self-assessment of your own abilities. The person who is very narcissistic may not be actually as smart or as competent as he thinks he is, however.
Self-assessment
I’m smart. I know that. I am capable and very able in learning how to do complex tasks such as fly an aircraft, knit, crochet, built things, train animals. I have led a life based on being a “can do” person. I’m somewhat justifiably proud of what I have accomplished in my life. That narcissism is a healthy level of self-assessment of my talents and abilities—yet my narcissism went further than that, I think, into making me think that there was nothing I couldn’t accomplish. Because I could do so many things, and do them well, I overestimated my ability to cope with the people in my life who were high in psychopathic traits and dysfunctional in relationships. I was too narcissistic in thinking I was able to accomplish the impossible—fixing dysfunctional relationships and dysfunctional people.
I think in part, my narcissism was because there were so few things I couldn’t accomplish if I set my mind to it and worked hard at acquiring the knowledge and skills to learn a new task, and perform it well. It never occurred to me that I could not also be “successful” in fixing a bad relationship with a person who had no conscience. Just as my psychopathic son, Patrick, who is extremely bright and also extremely narcissistic, never had any trouble in school, decided there was no one on earth as smart as he was, and that because he was smart, he could “get away with” anything. It never occurred to him that there were cops that were “smart enough” to catch him. Even when he was caught in his most violent crimes, crimes he didn’t even try to cover up, it never occurred to him that he would not be successful next time. When he was caught again, his narcissistic idea that he was the smartest, most capable person on Earth didn’t let him realize that he was wrong. His narcissism precluded him having an accurate self-assessment, or assessment of the capabilities of others.
I too was very narcissistic in my appraisal of my own abilities to effect change in these people, no matter how many times I failed in effecting change in them. No matter how many times I failed, or how bad the pain was because of my failure, it never dawned on me that I wasn’t capable of success if I just tried harder in this endeavor. If I just gave more of myself, if I was just more selfless, more giving, surely next time I would succeed. My own narcissism kept me in the game. My own desire to effect change in someone else’s behavior was fueled by my narcissism, by my poor self-assessment of my abilities.
Ignoring the danger
If a horse or a steer was aggressive and I was not able to effect change in the animal’s behavior, I would eventually give up when the animal continued to try to hurt me. I could at some point come to the conclusion that the potential harm to myself was not worth the effort of trying to control the animal’s violent tendencies. Though I am an excellent animal trainer, I know that not even the best animal trainer in the world can make some animals safe to work with, and the danger of trying to continue to do so foolish. Why could I not see that where it concerned dangerous humans?
Why was I willing to put myself, my life and my health, to say nothing of my happiness and peace, at risk in order to maintain a “relationship” with dangerous people for extended periods of time, decades in some cases? Why did I focus on the potential reward of changing their abusive behavior instead of on the pain they caused?
Family secrets
Part of the answer, I believe, lies in the way I was conditioned in my family, that the family “secrets” must be kept at all costs so that the “neighbors didn’t know.” This culture of shame, and covering up the general knowledge in the larger community that our family was not a “nice normal family” was handed down for generations by abusers and enablers working together to hide the family dysfunction. I participated in this “cover up” by keeping information about my son Patrick’s crimes from general knowledge of my extended family and “the neighbors” for years. I participated in the family myth that he had “found Jesus” when I knew otherwise. I participated in “family Christmas” celebrations that were a travesty and were anything except a “Norman Rockwell Christmas.” I think partly because I was so narcissistic that I thought if I just kept up the pretense long enough it would become real ”¦ especially if the “neighbors didn’t know.”
My coming out of this FOG (fear, obligation and guilt) was traumatic for me as well as for my family members who were as invested in this fantasy family as I was. That change from the status quo on my part released the “hounds of hell” within the family dynamics and resulted in my psychopathic son, Patrick, sending one of his ex-convict buddies to try to regain control of the family, since he couldn’t do this by emotional manipulation from inside his prison cell. He would kill me, if that is what it took in order for him to regain control. Several members of my family co-conspired with him, or at least knew what was going on and did nothing to stop the attack on me. Maintaining the status quo within the dysfunctional family was of paramount importance for everyone involved. Maintaining the FOG without change felt secure to them. Life was predictable. Change was scary.
Seeing the light
It was only the fear of actually losing my life that made me “see the light,” and see just how dangerously I had been behaving in trying to convince myself that I could effect change in these people. They had no conscience, no empathy, and enjoyed a high level of narcissism that made them believe themselves invincible. I too had felt invincible, and was way too narcissistic in my own self-assessment of what my capabilities were. I could not control these people, I could not change them, and they were too dangerous to deal with.
Now I try to look at myself more realistically, and to see that while I am a smart, capable person, there are some things that I am not capable of, and I need to be aware of these things. While I was realistic and humble enough to realize that there are some animals I can’t safely train, I am now humble enough to admit there are some dangerous people I can’t afford to associate with either, no matter how altruistic I feel or how much reward I get from helping others. The rewards I get from being “helpful” to others must also be tempered with the humility that I am not all-powerful in my abilities with people, any more than I am with animals. Just as I must assess the potential benefit of helping a person or training an animal, I must also assess the potential “costs” in terms I can afford to pay. While I still feel good when I am able to help someone else, I am no longer willing to overlook the repeated bad behavior of others and convince myself that if I am just “helpful enough” that I can change them.
I must take responsibility for my own life, my own behavior, and set my boundaries in such a way that I eliminate those dangerous relationships, no matter how smart or capable I am in other aspects of my life. There are just some things we can’t accomplish no matter how hard we work, and changing someone else is one of those things.
Hurtnomore, I understand that you wish you had a loving father and a loving mother…but you don’t. Neither do I. My biological father was a psychopath, my egg donor was not someone who nurtured me, but was a control freak. Sure—I wish I had a loving family. I’m an only child on my mom’s side, and so I have no brothers or sisters, nieces or nephews, and only have one set of first cousins and they are from my mom’s psychopathic brother, my “Uncle Monster”—and they are not close to me. I am NC with two of my biological sons, one of whom is in prison for murder and is a psychopath, the other one isn’t a psychopath, but he is not a man I care to associate with. Yep, it is lonesome sometimes. However,, I choose to NOT have these toxic people in my life because I would rather live on a desert island all alone than deal with the torture of manipulative and hateful people in my life. I DO have one adoptive son who is a wonderful young man, and I have friends…but most do not really understand what I have been through with the psychopaths. Your friends probably won’t understand either, but that is just the way it is. You can’t control that.
Don’t let your life be all about the pain of not having a loving family, make your own life, make your own happiness….make good friends. Learn what a healthy relationship is and raise healthy children in a stable marriage. I strongly suggest that you get some counseling from a professional counselor. It is very difficult to form lasting bonds and to have healthy relationships when you have had nothing but UN-healthy ones at home and in your young life. You deserve better! (((hugs))))
Hi Hurt…..
A small family is a GOOD thing!
Less to hurt and piss you off! 🙂
Make your college friends your new family….this is the time of your life….embrace it.
Don’t pine for what you don’t have…..if you do….you will NEVER see what you DO have!
Tell your ‘self imposed surrogate’ that due to the fact you have been sexually molested and abused by your father, you are thankful for her concerns re; your family, but you are not looking for a shrink OR a matchmaker! Thank her for her concerns, but you’ll conduct your life as you see fit.
Short sweet to the point and mind blowing enough to shut her the hell UP!
Move on from her too…..if she doesn’t get this and continues her behaviors!
Ivory566 – Good on you for finally filing for divorce and getting rid of him. This web site is so insightful as it keeps you focused when you feel yourself sliding back into the trap again. Unfortunately I am still living with my SP and some days it can be so blinding and I think I’m over reacting or perhaps I misconstrue everything. Am i expecting too much? I then pop onto this blog and read stories like yours and many others and realise there are just too many similarities in all our stories.
I truly don’t mean to sound silly, but I’m still a little confused about the big difference in Narcissistic behaviour as opposed to sociopathic? I always thought that once someone was narcissistic they would always be narcissistic?
Dear Oxi,
Fantastic article! You really know how to clearly articulate your research findings, your personal experiences and share your wisdom on the subject….above all you are a true blessing here on this site for all the compasionate love, advise and encouragement you give everyone! TOWANDA 2 U girl!!!!!!!!
Dear Ivory,
I hear the pain and anger in your post and can really say I’m glad you finally got it!…. and better yet, your on the road to recovery.
Remember to be patient with your self, it’s a bumpy ride and it takes time, above all DON’T punish yourself for being involved with the Spath….you didn’t know, be kind to yourself and know that here you are safe!
Dear Hurtnomre,
A loving family sometimes only exists in fairy tales….and in the Hallmard cards. EB and Oxy are right….”less is more” and your friends can become your loving extended family and give you the love and support you need close by. In so many instances this is the best family you could have.
You are wise to have found this site and trust your instincts enough to recognize that you are being manipulated and used. Educate your self more and you will wisen up to the all the wolves in sheep’s clothing that exist out there…especially when it’s your own family members. (((hugs)))) and peace to you.
Nice article Ms. Oxy Moxy!
It’s all about the learning girly!! 🙂
Thank you Ms EB, that is high praise indeedy coming from you!
Melly,
When you read the definitions of sociopath, psychopath and narcissist, they are very similar and I am not a psychiatrist but I would say most “paths” do not fit neatly into one of these definitions. Every individual is made up of varying degrees of these tendencies. We all exhibit some of these behaviors, occasionally, which I think was one of the points of Oxy’s blog. The difference is that the “path” will never know real love or compassion or care that they don’t. When I tell a lie or act out of selfish motives I feel bad about it. I know I have done something “wrong” because what I did caused someone else pain and it makes me feel bad. I have empathy for other people’s feelings and I have a conscience that nags at me when I know I have behaved badly, this is the essence of what makes us human. The “path” doesn’t have this humanity and I think that is the biggest difference between them and us. All path’s regardless of their varying degrees of sociopathic, psychopathic and narcissistic tendencies have this one basic trait. They have no conscience.
We have to be careful not to beat ourselves up for getting involved with these people because we are easy targets. It is our nature to think people are essentially good or that they are messed up by circumstances out of their control and we can help them become better people. We are lured into a relationship by someone who is a master at deception. My husband is a very good actor. The actual sound of his voice would change depending on who he was talking to. I don’t mean the sound level I mean his actual voice would change, it was very freaky but I could always tell whether he was speaking to another man, a woman, or a child just by the way his voice altered. My husband can change his personality so well he could win the academy award for best actor but when you see him 24/7 the real deal always comes out.
I was just like you for a very long time. I loved my husband so much and I had put so many “eggs in our basket” that I couldn’t face the reality of who he is and that he is not capable of being human. You will get to that point too but until then you have to protect your sanity and a good way to do it is to talk to the people here because unless you have lived the experience of loving a “path” you just don’t get it.
I’m not rescuing anybody anymore,
is that why I feel like crap?