By Joyce Alexander, RNP (Retired)
I’ve been reading some interesting books lately by some very interesting researchers in the field of psychology—Dr. Barbara Oakley dealing with the themes of altruism, Dr. Simon Baron-Cohen on empathy, and others who are trying to discover what makes people altruistic and how empathy (or lack of it) affects how we behave toward our fellow men. I’ve come to some interesting conclusions concerning my own part in my abuse by multiple people who were/are high in psychopathic traits, and very low in empathy, compassion and altruistic behavior. I have wondered about my own ability to repeatedly “explain away” the abusive behavior that I experienced from family members and “friends,” and to expect that they would change their abusive behavior. What made me think that I could somehow, by appeasing them, forgiving them, and being kind and caring to these people, make them realize just how much they had hurt me, how much I had suffered at their hands? What made me think that I could effect a change in someone else’s character, or instill character into someone who so obviously had no conscience, empathy or remorse?
In my studying about psychopathic behavior in former associates and in family members who have actually repeatedly done horrific violence to others as well as toward me, including battery, rape and actual murders, I have finally come to the conclusion, like many researchers, Dr. Robert Hare, Dr. Simon Baron-Cohen and Dr. Barbara Oakley, that there is little if any chance that a person who is very high in psychopathic traits and very low in empathy, without conscience or the ability to feel remorse for their behavior, is going to effectively change, either in their thinking or their behavior. That much finally got through to me. There are some things that are impossible to do no matter how capable you are.
When a person has had a life-long pattern of bad and/or violent behavior, does not have effective empathy, which is necessary for a person to have a conscience (a personality disorder), the likelihood of change is minimal. “The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior” is a truism that is not likely to change, no matter how “politically correct” it is to wish otherwise.
There are some instances when a person has a medical condition (either genetic or acquired) that keeps them from having empathy—autism or brain damage from a stroke or head injury, for example. But not all people who are without “normal” levels of empathy are violent or seem to enjoy hurting others. For those people lacking empathy and conscience, who do seem to enjoy control over others, or simply seem to enjoy hurting others, there is no “hope.”
Helper’s high
What about those of us on the other hand, though, who seem to have a desire to help others? It has been shown by medical and psychological research that “helping” others gives a chemical “atta boy” to the brains of those who are the helpers. This chemical “reward” for doing good reinforces the desire to “help” others. We are genetically programmed as a species to “do good.” It is rewarding to us and has helped keep the human race alive because we cooperate, help each other, and are to some extent altruistic.
The “pleasure” centers in the human brain respond to chemical stimuli from various sources—from orgasm, from doing good, from various drugs, and from various activities, such as “the runner’s high” that come from physical exertion. It has even been shown that working with your hands to produce something useful gives a chemical reward to the brain. That may be why people like to knit, crochet, build things, fix food, etc. But why, when the reward for “doing good” to someone, especially someone you love, is also accompanied by such intense emotional and/or physical pain, do we keep on doing what causes us pain as well as the “reward” for doing good? Why are we willing to endure the pain in addition to receiving the “reward” for “doing good?”
Narcissism
Some people high in psychopathic traits seem to be extremely high in narcissism, to the point that it is very obvious that they value themselves so far above others as to absolutely have no idea that anyone else has any value at all. They view others as lower than an object, but to the point that the very existence of other people is an insult to the highly narcissistic person. It seems as if the chemical reward for them for “doing good” is replaced by the desire for control.
If the narcissism is very apparent, people around the narcissist may notice this to the point that they don’t want to be around such a person. He is considered “stuck up” and we have probably been told from grade school on up that we should not “brag on ourselves” because it isn’t polite and others won’t like us. So the narcissism that is very apparent may be “off putting” to others around the person. Many people who are very narcissistic, though, have trained themselves not to appear as narcissistic as they actually feel. In other words, they have learned “good manners,” or to mask their true emotions. Those that don’t learn to conceal high levels of narcissism may not be very “popular.” A healthy level of narcissism, though, is an accurate self-assessment of your own abilities. The person who is very narcissistic may not be actually as smart or as competent as he thinks he is, however.
Self-assessment
I’m smart. I know that. I am capable and very able in learning how to do complex tasks such as fly an aircraft, knit, crochet, built things, train animals. I have led a life based on being a “can do” person. I’m somewhat justifiably proud of what I have accomplished in my life. That narcissism is a healthy level of self-assessment of my talents and abilities—yet my narcissism went further than that, I think, into making me think that there was nothing I couldn’t accomplish. Because I could do so many things, and do them well, I overestimated my ability to cope with the people in my life who were high in psychopathic traits and dysfunctional in relationships. I was too narcissistic in thinking I was able to accomplish the impossible—fixing dysfunctional relationships and dysfunctional people.
I think in part, my narcissism was because there were so few things I couldn’t accomplish if I set my mind to it and worked hard at acquiring the knowledge and skills to learn a new task, and perform it well. It never occurred to me that I could not also be “successful” in fixing a bad relationship with a person who had no conscience. Just as my psychopathic son, Patrick, who is extremely bright and also extremely narcissistic, never had any trouble in school, decided there was no one on earth as smart as he was, and that because he was smart, he could “get away with” anything. It never occurred to him that there were cops that were “smart enough” to catch him. Even when he was caught in his most violent crimes, crimes he didn’t even try to cover up, it never occurred to him that he would not be successful next time. When he was caught again, his narcissistic idea that he was the smartest, most capable person on Earth didn’t let him realize that he was wrong. His narcissism precluded him having an accurate self-assessment, or assessment of the capabilities of others.
I too was very narcissistic in my appraisal of my own abilities to effect change in these people, no matter how many times I failed in effecting change in them. No matter how many times I failed, or how bad the pain was because of my failure, it never dawned on me that I wasn’t capable of success if I just tried harder in this endeavor. If I just gave more of myself, if I was just more selfless, more giving, surely next time I would succeed. My own narcissism kept me in the game. My own desire to effect change in someone else’s behavior was fueled by my narcissism, by my poor self-assessment of my abilities.
Ignoring the danger
If a horse or a steer was aggressive and I was not able to effect change in the animal’s behavior, I would eventually give up when the animal continued to try to hurt me. I could at some point come to the conclusion that the potential harm to myself was not worth the effort of trying to control the animal’s violent tendencies. Though I am an excellent animal trainer, I know that not even the best animal trainer in the world can make some animals safe to work with, and the danger of trying to continue to do so foolish. Why could I not see that where it concerned dangerous humans?
Why was I willing to put myself, my life and my health, to say nothing of my happiness and peace, at risk in order to maintain a “relationship” with dangerous people for extended periods of time, decades in some cases? Why did I focus on the potential reward of changing their abusive behavior instead of on the pain they caused?
Family secrets
Part of the answer, I believe, lies in the way I was conditioned in my family, that the family “secrets” must be kept at all costs so that the “neighbors didn’t know.” This culture of shame, and covering up the general knowledge in the larger community that our family was not a “nice normal family” was handed down for generations by abusers and enablers working together to hide the family dysfunction. I participated in this “cover up” by keeping information about my son Patrick’s crimes from general knowledge of my extended family and “the neighbors” for years. I participated in the family myth that he had “found Jesus” when I knew otherwise. I participated in “family Christmas” celebrations that were a travesty and were anything except a “Norman Rockwell Christmas.” I think partly because I was so narcissistic that I thought if I just kept up the pretense long enough it would become real ”¦ especially if the “neighbors didn’t know.”
My coming out of this FOG (fear, obligation and guilt) was traumatic for me as well as for my family members who were as invested in this fantasy family as I was. That change from the status quo on my part released the “hounds of hell” within the family dynamics and resulted in my psychopathic son, Patrick, sending one of his ex-convict buddies to try to regain control of the family, since he couldn’t do this by emotional manipulation from inside his prison cell. He would kill me, if that is what it took in order for him to regain control. Several members of my family co-conspired with him, or at least knew what was going on and did nothing to stop the attack on me. Maintaining the status quo within the dysfunctional family was of paramount importance for everyone involved. Maintaining the FOG without change felt secure to them. Life was predictable. Change was scary.
Seeing the light
It was only the fear of actually losing my life that made me “see the light,” and see just how dangerously I had been behaving in trying to convince myself that I could effect change in these people. They had no conscience, no empathy, and enjoyed a high level of narcissism that made them believe themselves invincible. I too had felt invincible, and was way too narcissistic in my own self-assessment of what my capabilities were. I could not control these people, I could not change them, and they were too dangerous to deal with.
Now I try to look at myself more realistically, and to see that while I am a smart, capable person, there are some things that I am not capable of, and I need to be aware of these things. While I was realistic and humble enough to realize that there are some animals I can’t safely train, I am now humble enough to admit there are some dangerous people I can’t afford to associate with either, no matter how altruistic I feel or how much reward I get from helping others. The rewards I get from being “helpful” to others must also be tempered with the humility that I am not all-powerful in my abilities with people, any more than I am with animals. Just as I must assess the potential benefit of helping a person or training an animal, I must also assess the potential “costs” in terms I can afford to pay. While I still feel good when I am able to help someone else, I am no longer willing to overlook the repeated bad behavior of others and convince myself that if I am just “helpful enough” that I can change them.
I must take responsibility for my own life, my own behavior, and set my boundaries in such a way that I eliminate those dangerous relationships, no matter how smart or capable I am in other aspects of my life. There are just some things we can’t accomplish no matter how hard we work, and changing someone else is one of those things.
Dupey, you are in my prayers! Keep us posted!
One/Joy, well I talked with “Grandpa’s” daughter an hour or so after I sent him on his way, insisted that son D drive him back home, and had OFFERED to drive him over to his daughter’s house he said he needed to borrow gas to get to her house so she coulod fill up his tank so he could go to the doctor….but refused to let me drive him to his daughter’s…so when I called her….found out he wasn’t TOTALLY lying….he did intend to go to her house to STEAL GAS OUT OF HER CARE WHILE SHE WAS GONE. LOL Sheesh. I FEEL so bad telling him NO and setting boundaries for him, but I did tell him if he is without food I will feed him, or I will drive him to the doctor’s office, but I will NOT give him gas, gas money, or money for food…only transportation for HIM. He doesn’t like that, but I set the boundaries. I FEEL bad, guilty, about doing that—-but logically I know I have to turn off the empathy and set boundaries which I am DOING and dealing with the feelings of guilt with a little bit of logic and a light tap or two with the skillet! LOL
Hope your leg is responding!
oh lordy oxy, she must be good to get an old man to walk in the heat and steal time and money fro his neighbours and gas from his daughter…poor deluded old soul. she is gonna suck the life right out of him. but you are not letting him ‘play it forward’ and that’s a good thing. must be hard not to give how pathetic he is, but enabling is no longer your job!
leg MUCH better today – heat has gone out of 50% of it and the red is going down and the bruise is coming up. wicked headache and the rest of my body is so sore. figure my neck is out. i tried to do some stretched this am and couldn’t – well, if one falls is an crevice of rocks and gets wrenched about this is to be expected…but i had to deal with the infection first. today i try to deal with the headaches and pain. so looking better today. thanks for all your support during this oxy – most people don’t understand how dangerous infection is and how quickly it can turn you dead. it’s been great to know you were here.
(((((((DupeD)))))) – just read your post about colon cancer, I have been a bit preoccupied the last couple of days. big hugs to you and my best wishes. my grandma had colon cancer 20 soe years ago, and is STILL going strong! keep your chin up and let us knon how the tests go!
One/Joy ~ so glad to hear that your leg is better!! Infection can be SO scary. Thank goodness the antibiotics are kicking it for you!!
Don’t forget, One, as soon as this is over, to deal with the flora die-off as a result of your anti-biotics. Take lots of pro-biotics.
(((duped))) and (((one joy)))
I am so sorry to hear about the health issues. Scary stuff for both of you!!
Duped- hopefully it is a non-cancerous polyp. My thoughts are with you.
One joy- glad you are doing a better. Keep positive. Stop climbing those darn rocks. 🙂
A big huge thank you with love to all of you for your wishes and prayers. All of the medical problems I am coming through right now is very unfair, I am afraid. After having survived the spath, I am NOW faced with tremendous hurdles medically. Just doesn’t seem fair but nobody ever said that LIFE was “FAIR”.
I have been so busy with medical problems, I have hardly had any time to even CONSIDER the spath with ANYTHING but disdain and I must admit the hatred is increasing moment to moment.
I KNOW that when I am online, “IT” can see me through my messenger use. While I used to HIDE MYSELF when online, the past few weeks, I have taken MY OWN POWER BACK and have been SHOWING MYSELF ONLINE, providing ‘status messages’ with ‘conscious inspiring sayings’, such as: “Lies and deception make life pointless”; “Those with evil in their hearts for others shall reap the same evil.” 🙂 Just cute, little, mind-awakening things.
I SAW “IT” online late last night. Probably after having sex with his NEW OW, I saw him online, all night long, more than likely PHISHING for new prey online, after his new victim had adequately fallen asleep, I would surmise. At least that is how it played out, during the deception he created about ‘not being married’ for four years prior to telling me!
I am NOT going to stop making myself visible on my messenger anymore. “IT” can make “ITSELF” visible, which it has done now, but I know “IT” is still tuning in! And, I shall continue to provide these thought provoking one liners to “IT” because IT IS NOTHING BUT A CHICKEN SHIT who doesn’t even have the balls to say anything to the mother of IT’S dead child!!!!!!!!!!!! The mother of IT’s dead child, that IT tried to murder.
I refuse to back up and give IT ANYTHING. No — it’s not breaking NC – and all of my status messages are non specific. When I finally fell asleep last night, I noticed “IT” still online and “IT” has not been able to muster one peep to me. Although, if IT should say something to me, it would be GRAY ROCKED… That goes to show you how “tough” and “rough” they TRULY ARE: run from the face of adversity; right?
I am finding out test results on this coming Tuesday. Some of these test results will affect him in one way or another. I have absolutely NO INTENTION on backing down and if “IT” wants to continue threatening me, we can deal with that too.
I am standing firm and not changing my mind, not ever.
If you are as fortunate as I am, being in the legal field and have law enforcement support and cooperation, I would suggest if you have anything legal (of a serious nature, as I do) I would recommend HIGHLY following through with defending yourself in every way that you can. Some people may call that ‘vengeance’, I call it JUSTICE and I do intend to effect my justification in this horrible ugly nightmare this uncaring, sociopathic, homicidal MANIAC has perpetrated on not only me, but ex wife, ex girlfriends, etc.
WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND.
(Another one of my status messages).
I will keep you all posted on what happens with me.
I go through periods of such extreme HATE and RESENTMENT over all of this, especially NOW, since IT has forced me into several medical issues. Dupey is going to come out AHEAD on this one, no matter what happens to me medically. IT is hoping I DIE from my heart attack soon so it can slime off into the sunset…it’s not going to happen for IT that way because I WILL make or break his future.
Thank you so much, again, every one, for your love, encouragement and support. Right back at you!
Dupey Doo Duh
Constantine: My love, prayers and best of wishes are with you and your Mum, this day, as always. Remember you are in my thoughts and prayers. I so appreciate you for the wonderful, caring, warm person you truly are. Thank you for your prayers and thoughts.
Always ~ Dupey
sky – when it’s over??? HA, first thing I did was start chucking back pro-biotics!
thanks H2H and coping. still feel like someone beat me up, but all signs are that the infection is receding. I am sore all over and all i want to do to help the aches is to – GO FOR A SWIM! ha! (which i will not be doing with an open wound.) i was so looking forward to these next weeks of swimming before the lake gets too cold. it has been really helping in so many ways.