By Joyce Alexander, RNP (Retired)
I’ve been reading some interesting books lately by some very interesting researchers in the field of psychology—Dr. Barbara Oakley dealing with the themes of altruism, Dr. Simon Baron-Cohen on empathy, and others who are trying to discover what makes people altruistic and how empathy (or lack of it) affects how we behave toward our fellow men. I’ve come to some interesting conclusions concerning my own part in my abuse by multiple people who were/are high in psychopathic traits, and very low in empathy, compassion and altruistic behavior. I have wondered about my own ability to repeatedly “explain away” the abusive behavior that I experienced from family members and “friends,” and to expect that they would change their abusive behavior. What made me think that I could somehow, by appeasing them, forgiving them, and being kind and caring to these people, make them realize just how much they had hurt me, how much I had suffered at their hands? What made me think that I could effect a change in someone else’s character, or instill character into someone who so obviously had no conscience, empathy or remorse?
In my studying about psychopathic behavior in former associates and in family members who have actually repeatedly done horrific violence to others as well as toward me, including battery, rape and actual murders, I have finally come to the conclusion, like many researchers, Dr. Robert Hare, Dr. Simon Baron-Cohen and Dr. Barbara Oakley, that there is little if any chance that a person who is very high in psychopathic traits and very low in empathy, without conscience or the ability to feel remorse for their behavior, is going to effectively change, either in their thinking or their behavior. That much finally got through to me. There are some things that are impossible to do no matter how capable you are.
When a person has had a life-long pattern of bad and/or violent behavior, does not have effective empathy, which is necessary for a person to have a conscience (a personality disorder), the likelihood of change is minimal. “The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior” is a truism that is not likely to change, no matter how “politically correct” it is to wish otherwise.
There are some instances when a person has a medical condition (either genetic or acquired) that keeps them from having empathy—autism or brain damage from a stroke or head injury, for example. But not all people who are without “normal” levels of empathy are violent or seem to enjoy hurting others. For those people lacking empathy and conscience, who do seem to enjoy control over others, or simply seem to enjoy hurting others, there is no “hope.”
Helper’s high
What about those of us on the other hand, though, who seem to have a desire to help others? It has been shown by medical and psychological research that “helping” others gives a chemical “atta boy” to the brains of those who are the helpers. This chemical “reward” for doing good reinforces the desire to “help” others. We are genetically programmed as a species to “do good.” It is rewarding to us and has helped keep the human race alive because we cooperate, help each other, and are to some extent altruistic.
The “pleasure” centers in the human brain respond to chemical stimuli from various sources—from orgasm, from doing good, from various drugs, and from various activities, such as “the runner’s high” that come from physical exertion. It has even been shown that working with your hands to produce something useful gives a chemical reward to the brain. That may be why people like to knit, crochet, build things, fix food, etc. But why, when the reward for “doing good” to someone, especially someone you love, is also accompanied by such intense emotional and/or physical pain, do we keep on doing what causes us pain as well as the “reward” for doing good? Why are we willing to endure the pain in addition to receiving the “reward” for “doing good?”
Narcissism
Some people high in psychopathic traits seem to be extremely high in narcissism, to the point that it is very obvious that they value themselves so far above others as to absolutely have no idea that anyone else has any value at all. They view others as lower than an object, but to the point that the very existence of other people is an insult to the highly narcissistic person. It seems as if the chemical reward for them for “doing good” is replaced by the desire for control.
If the narcissism is very apparent, people around the narcissist may notice this to the point that they don’t want to be around such a person. He is considered “stuck up” and we have probably been told from grade school on up that we should not “brag on ourselves” because it isn’t polite and others won’t like us. So the narcissism that is very apparent may be “off putting” to others around the person. Many people who are very narcissistic, though, have trained themselves not to appear as narcissistic as they actually feel. In other words, they have learned “good manners,” or to mask their true emotions. Those that don’t learn to conceal high levels of narcissism may not be very “popular.” A healthy level of narcissism, though, is an accurate self-assessment of your own abilities. The person who is very narcissistic may not be actually as smart or as competent as he thinks he is, however.
Self-assessment
I’m smart. I know that. I am capable and very able in learning how to do complex tasks such as fly an aircraft, knit, crochet, built things, train animals. I have led a life based on being a “can do” person. I’m somewhat justifiably proud of what I have accomplished in my life. That narcissism is a healthy level of self-assessment of my talents and abilities—yet my narcissism went further than that, I think, into making me think that there was nothing I couldn’t accomplish. Because I could do so many things, and do them well, I overestimated my ability to cope with the people in my life who were high in psychopathic traits and dysfunctional in relationships. I was too narcissistic in thinking I was able to accomplish the impossible—fixing dysfunctional relationships and dysfunctional people.
I think in part, my narcissism was because there were so few things I couldn’t accomplish if I set my mind to it and worked hard at acquiring the knowledge and skills to learn a new task, and perform it well. It never occurred to me that I could not also be “successful” in fixing a bad relationship with a person who had no conscience. Just as my psychopathic son, Patrick, who is extremely bright and also extremely narcissistic, never had any trouble in school, decided there was no one on earth as smart as he was, and that because he was smart, he could “get away with” anything. It never occurred to him that there were cops that were “smart enough” to catch him. Even when he was caught in his most violent crimes, crimes he didn’t even try to cover up, it never occurred to him that he would not be successful next time. When he was caught again, his narcissistic idea that he was the smartest, most capable person on Earth didn’t let him realize that he was wrong. His narcissism precluded him having an accurate self-assessment, or assessment of the capabilities of others.
I too was very narcissistic in my appraisal of my own abilities to effect change in these people, no matter how many times I failed in effecting change in them. No matter how many times I failed, or how bad the pain was because of my failure, it never dawned on me that I wasn’t capable of success if I just tried harder in this endeavor. If I just gave more of myself, if I was just more selfless, more giving, surely next time I would succeed. My own narcissism kept me in the game. My own desire to effect change in someone else’s behavior was fueled by my narcissism, by my poor self-assessment of my abilities.
Ignoring the danger
If a horse or a steer was aggressive and I was not able to effect change in the animal’s behavior, I would eventually give up when the animal continued to try to hurt me. I could at some point come to the conclusion that the potential harm to myself was not worth the effort of trying to control the animal’s violent tendencies. Though I am an excellent animal trainer, I know that not even the best animal trainer in the world can make some animals safe to work with, and the danger of trying to continue to do so foolish. Why could I not see that where it concerned dangerous humans?
Why was I willing to put myself, my life and my health, to say nothing of my happiness and peace, at risk in order to maintain a “relationship” with dangerous people for extended periods of time, decades in some cases? Why did I focus on the potential reward of changing their abusive behavior instead of on the pain they caused?
Family secrets
Part of the answer, I believe, lies in the way I was conditioned in my family, that the family “secrets” must be kept at all costs so that the “neighbors didn’t know.” This culture of shame, and covering up the general knowledge in the larger community that our family was not a “nice normal family” was handed down for generations by abusers and enablers working together to hide the family dysfunction. I participated in this “cover up” by keeping information about my son Patrick’s crimes from general knowledge of my extended family and “the neighbors” for years. I participated in the family myth that he had “found Jesus” when I knew otherwise. I participated in “family Christmas” celebrations that were a travesty and were anything except a “Norman Rockwell Christmas.” I think partly because I was so narcissistic that I thought if I just kept up the pretense long enough it would become real ”¦ especially if the “neighbors didn’t know.”
My coming out of this FOG (fear, obligation and guilt) was traumatic for me as well as for my family members who were as invested in this fantasy family as I was. That change from the status quo on my part released the “hounds of hell” within the family dynamics and resulted in my psychopathic son, Patrick, sending one of his ex-convict buddies to try to regain control of the family, since he couldn’t do this by emotional manipulation from inside his prison cell. He would kill me, if that is what it took in order for him to regain control. Several members of my family co-conspired with him, or at least knew what was going on and did nothing to stop the attack on me. Maintaining the status quo within the dysfunctional family was of paramount importance for everyone involved. Maintaining the FOG without change felt secure to them. Life was predictable. Change was scary.
Seeing the light
It was only the fear of actually losing my life that made me “see the light,” and see just how dangerously I had been behaving in trying to convince myself that I could effect change in these people. They had no conscience, no empathy, and enjoyed a high level of narcissism that made them believe themselves invincible. I too had felt invincible, and was way too narcissistic in my own self-assessment of what my capabilities were. I could not control these people, I could not change them, and they were too dangerous to deal with.
Now I try to look at myself more realistically, and to see that while I am a smart, capable person, there are some things that I am not capable of, and I need to be aware of these things. While I was realistic and humble enough to realize that there are some animals I can’t safely train, I am now humble enough to admit there are some dangerous people I can’t afford to associate with either, no matter how altruistic I feel or how much reward I get from helping others. The rewards I get from being “helpful” to others must also be tempered with the humility that I am not all-powerful in my abilities with people, any more than I am with animals. Just as I must assess the potential benefit of helping a person or training an animal, I must also assess the potential “costs” in terms I can afford to pay. While I still feel good when I am able to help someone else, I am no longer willing to overlook the repeated bad behavior of others and convince myself that if I am just “helpful enough” that I can change them.
I must take responsibility for my own life, my own behavior, and set my boundaries in such a way that I eliminate those dangerous relationships, no matter how smart or capable I am in other aspects of my life. There are just some things we can’t accomplish no matter how hard we work, and changing someone else is one of those things.
sarahsmiles….
ramble all you want here..
and congrats on the NC! sometimes you have to let all the poison seep out (by rambiling, venting…) before you can let the wound heal.
It will get better..
Thanks, Backintothelight, the inspiration here at LF is that we all pull together on the same end of the rope! Reaching out a hand to those that are deep into the “abyss of despair” and working together we can all get out of that dark cavern! We can all move together BACK into the light! (((hugs))) and Thanks!
Dear Ox Drover, THANK YOU!!! I do need some encouragement right now. Nothing to drink since Monday, by the way. Got past that dreaded third day when my yeast monster screams FEED ME! My kids come back from vacation today, which will bring some much-needed normalcy and love back to my life.
backintothelight, I told my mom, my brother, and my ex-husband everything. This holds me accountable. If I let him back him, I would lose everything I have left. My kids are the most important thing in the world to me, and I know my ex wouldn’t let them come back to an unsafe environment. I have a lot of repair to do with them and the rest of my family. I’ve been pretty unplugged and unavailable for over two years now.
I hope your migraine lifts! Sending healing thoughts to you!
Ox – this is brilliant. Thank you. What you have posted makes SO MUCH SENSE.
Sarahsmile,
Just popping in from work, but I saw your post. This is a real crucial time and decision. Going no contact is KEY. If you don’t absolutely, positively, HAVE to have contact (you have kids together), then really let it go. IT. Even negotiating belongings is an opportunity for It to project onto you, and try to keep you off center.
Projection can be SO confusing. Any decent human being will search themselves for a grain of truth to someone else’s projection, and usually find it. That means they are able to identify little places where they find weaknesses, or need for improvement. It’s called ‘insight’ and ‘self-assessment’.
It does NOT mean, however, that a sociopath’s projections are TRUE. A sociopath uses projection to DISOWN their own behaviors. They NEVER take real responsibility. Even if they pay lip service to it and make it sound completely authentic. They use it to avoid insight and self-assessment, and therefore GROWTH. Part of the reason they can not change.
I hear you say you have ‘outed’ yourself to your family. Congratulations! This is huge! I did the same. Once I told my peeps what had gone on it really helped me hold myself accountable for my own truth and my path to healing. Kinda like AA maybe?
Sarah I don’t always post. So I haven’t connected, as online friends, with many folks here. So if you respond to me and don’t hear from me it is because I check in and out, but not regularly. But I wanted to offer you some support. And I don’t want you to feel hurt if you post back to me and hear nothing for a few hours or days.
I wish you strength and courage with NO CONTACT!!!
xo, Slim
Thank you so much for this article, and also for the comments below it, which were just as helpful.
I am in a similar position to Sarahsmile. I have just embarked on “no contact” again for perhaps the third time now, because it had got to a point again where every time he spoke to me, it would upset me and make me cry. His angry demeanor frightened me and I felt like he was constantly putting me down or minimalize anything I try to say when I was upset. It is so subtle.
He has written to me from jail, saying I have over-reacted and we have got past bigger things than this (bigger things he has done.) Really though, I just feel like I have less ability to deal with it, and whereas when I was less “clued-in” to the way he was, I could put up with the misery between us for a long time, with the hope he’d see the light and change- now, the second I sense something bad in my gut, it is almost unbearable.
He is in a situation where he is either going to be in prison for life or will be set free completely, after rejecting earlier plea deals. He tells me he took this gamble “for us” as he says he knows he would have lost me had he got a few yrs in prison, so he took the risk for the possibility of getting free again. This is what he is holding me to now that I have initiated no contact. “You are walking away and leaving me as I am facing a life sentence that I chose to face because of you.”
I never told him to take that gamble. I always told him that he was the only one who could make such a decision, and to take the best advice from his lawyer, and proceed as he thought best. In fact much of the advice around him, was to take the original plea deal.
My main questions to those with the experience gathered on this blog is:
1) How do you deal with the conflict of feelings when someone keeps telling you that you have overacted over arguments or these type of situations. I feel it is bigger than what he says, but I know I am an emotional person, so it makes me constantly question myself- is he right?
2) In his letters he doesn’t refer to any of the things specifically I told him that cause me problems, but focuses on the fact that anything he does wrong is because he is under so much pressure being up against a life sentence and I just don’t understand. I feel awful guilt for leaving him at this time, 2 months ahead of his trial, but the other side of me is conflicted and I’m asking myself, how can I keep putting myself out there as I cushion for his anger, life sentence or not?
3) How do you deal with his truth being the one that friends and others believe? He already making people believe I am the worst person on the face of the Earth by ignoring his calls as he is facing a life sentence and walking away from him at this time. And that he loves me so much, so if I loved him any, why would I walk away?
This is me now. But it is a situation that has spanned around 3.5 yrs now, with him in prison and out of prison. There have been times when he has been good, and we can communicate, but whenever he is ever the least bit stressed, he gets aggressive and angry and I feel manipulated and controlled. I have a 12 page letter in front of me asking me how I could do such a thing and not be understanding of his situation and if I had only told him sooner that I was upset we could have fixed things. I feel like I did tell him sooner, as I have given love and forgiveness constantly over this time, even if he says I haven’t. Or he says I didn’t care about him nearly as much as he did me etc.
It is so confusing… I’m so sorry all, my mind is full of it and I don’t know which way is UP?
Thank you so much all. I have very very few people, perhaps just one (who doesn’t even really understand) that I can even tell about this, so I appreciate every word given.
And Dear Sarahsmile, I wish you the best of luck with your own No Contact also xoxo
Dearest SnowSettled,
Change “prison” to “leaving my wife,” and I could write your letter VERBATIM. There’s just too many similarities in behavior… I can’t even choose one to quote and respond to. It’s the same story, over and over. I’m sure others will echo this and you can read it in their stories.
One thing that’s so confusing to me is how someone can be SO ANGRY at someone who loves them, someone who is trying to help them. It’s like the vampire who recoils at the sight of a cross. Dude, I’ve got my hand stretched out to you! I’m strong enough to pull you out of this, and we can go forward together! I don’t know how many times I said this. And my hand was either bitten, or I was dragged down with him. In my case, I can’t yet let go of thinking that he DOES feel remorse. He doesn’t know why he acts this way. But it doesn’t stop the behavior.
I feel for you, SnowSettled. Thank you for the kind words, and best of luck with your No Contact. There’s a wealth of knowledge and support here.
P.S. slimone: Thank you so much! Right now I am pretty much glued to these boards, but I understand that not everyone is! 🙂
I also wanted to add that in my darkest times, it has always helped me tremendously to think in terms of numbers. Out of 6 billion people on this planet, odds are that there are hundreds and maybe thousands of people going through EXACTLY the same thing that I am at that exact second. Same situation, same miniscule details, same context. Immediately, I don’t feel so alone. I feel a sense of oneness that is immediately soothing — I can actually feel a shift in the energy around me — and then I say a little prayer that we all find our way back to the light.
Snowsettled – welcome. Now, let’s back-peddle…..how has he come to be in prison so many times? (do not divulge anything which may identify you) Did YOU make HIM do those things? No? Well he did (whatever it was) and now he’s paying the price. Is that your fault? NO.
Will he change? NO
Will he end up in prison again? YES
Are you going to waste your life? Only you can answer this question.
Spaths always want to shift the blame onto us. The ‘you made me do it’ or ‘I did it for us’
This is your chance to break free of him for good.
Stay and learn. This site is excellent. There are lots of people here who will help you.
Snow,
it’s a game. He doesn’t even CARE that he is in prison. But he knows that YOU care, so he’ll work that angle.
He feels nothing, but he wants you to feel everything.
My spath did a similar thing. He would fly off the handle and act ridiculous and then say it was because of the “stress” of having so much pressure to earn a living because we were always broke.
NO, we were not broke until HE CREATED that situation, IN ORDER TO THEN HAVE DRAMA REVOLVING AROUND BEING BROKE.
They LIKE the drama. They know it is stressful for us and not for them. They don’t care about the actual situation revolving around them, they only care that it creates drama for US. That’s what they are getting off on. They want to see us react. That’s all it is.