Almost three years ago, Lovefraud published the story of a man from the UK whom I called Tom. Tom’s wife left him for another man, took their children, had him arrested on false charges nine times and wiped him out financially. Here is the original story:
UK man says sociopath stole his life
Now, three years later, Tom still hasn’t seen his children. His ex-wife and her new husband, who also sounds like a sociopath, have removed the children from the UK. They live in France, at a small town near the Swiss border. “My heart bleeds every minute for the loss,” he writes. “It is a living bereavement and a nightmare from which I may never awake.”
I asked Tom if he was taking care of himself. Here’s his reply:
I have taken care of myself and for the most part I am okay. Some days are worse than others. I do have my very depressed and painful days ”¦ but I close my eyes, dream of days and memories of long ago, sleep and they pass.
I have to deal with my health and look after my parents. My mother phones me and cries about her grandson all the time. She has post-traumatic difficulties and says she cannot connect with her other grandchildren because of what she feels for my son. She feels a deep loss and is constantly worried about the kids. Every open discussion starts with them [opening the scar] and ends with them.
I am holding my own and my health has deteriorated but I am stable. I hold my family in the balance on many fronts. I am keeping it together but the pain is immense at times.
I am working and seem to have bounced back somewhat to where I used to be”¦ the years have been tearful, painful and costly. I don’t think that I will every really recover.
Releasing the pain
How do you cope when there is no resolution in sight?
I asked Tom about how he is taking care of himself because that may be, for the time being, all he can do. Emotional pain weakens us and makes it difficult to continue the battle. So somehow, Tom needs to alleviate the pain, even though his circumstances have not changed.
This seems counterintuitive—how can he feel better when his children are still kept away from him? The solution is to deal with the pain directly. Pain can be processed and released, even when the source of the pain has not changed.
Pain comes from wanting things to be different. The solution is to accept what is, for the time being, reality. This does not mean giving up hope. It does not mean quitting the legal battle. But it does mean letting go of the internal upset that keeps us trapped, and makes us ill.
How do we do that? We allow ourselves to feel the pain and grief at our loss. This is best done privately, or perhaps with a skilled counselor. We allow ourselves to cry, moan with the anguish, perhaps pound pillows in our anger. We continue until we feel a release, and then we stop.
Tom will probably have to do this many times—the well of his pain and grief is deep. But each time grief is released, it makes room for healing. And from a place of healing, it is possible to find the internal resources to continue the battle.
Banana – As much as I am convinced that my X is a P and uncapable of comittment, I would hate to be in your shoes right now. However your X did say he has a sex addiction and intimacy problems and having sex is the only way he feels love and when sex gets boring or old or (mundane) as my X described it, they are off to find that excitment of new love and new sex with someone new that does not know about all their flaws… (fresh humanity) is what I call it. So if he comes back you will be wondering when sex is gettin old again will ne be poking somebody new for the thrill of it? Sure he wants (the family back) they like security and hate being alone..Sounds to me like he is gettin bored with the other women already…This is no way to live – it would drive you BANANAS hope more come to offer advise soon…..
Banana,
Sweetie, the prime thing about a psychopath is that THEY LIE. THEY ARE THE LIE.
None of what he says is any TRUTH, this is just a hook that he is trying to get into you by playing th epity ploy.
If you fall for this, and go back to him, or BREAK NO CONTACT again, you will continue to be upset, mined phucked and in the FOG (Fear, Obligation, and Guilt)
GET REAL GIRL—BOINK! THAT IS ME HITTING YOU ON THE HEAD WITH AN IRON SKILLET TO GET YOUR ATTENTION.
It is your decision what you want in life, but if you go back tothis freak of nature who is a pathhlogical liar, sex addict, who has cheated on you, lied to you, then you KNOW WHAT YOUR LIFE WILL BE LIKE—just like it was before. YOU get to make a choice. Which do you want? (((hugs)))) STAY FOCUSED and STAY STRONG!
Banana,
This is what you wrote:
“He has said although he doesn’t think he’s a sex addict he has an intimacy problem where he needs to show love through sex and when it get “old” or “comfortable” he feels unloved.”
Don’t let this float by without you paying really close attention to what he’s saying. Sociopaths and narcissists can be really insightful about themselves. And sometimes they give you really good information.
If he has this problem, what is he doing about it? This is virtually a textbook definition of some kind of addiction. Whether it’s sex or relationships. It’s a serious problem, and it’s his problem, not yours. But it will become your problem if you let him into your life again.
If he’s serious about the relationship with you, he’s also serious about making himself capable of a having a relationship that includes personal responsibility, loyalty and trustworthiness. None of that is possible with this kind of problem.
If he wants back in, he needs to go to work FIRST on that problem, and not come back until he has it licked. That’s what he would do if he really cared about you. Otherwise, he’s not relationship material. Unless he can find someone who will accept and enable this behavior. Because it’s not going to change until he goes to work in a 12-step program and/or with a therapist to find the roots of it and change himself.
And again, none of this is your problem. His needy little baby routine is just the addict talking. He’s trying to get you to take responsibility for him by making you feel sorry for him. Or he’s trying to trigger your insecurities so that you and he can be needy together.
Don’t bite. You’ve come this far. You’ve found the strength in yourself to take your life back. If you’re ever going to find another partner, you want to keep on getting stronger so that you attract someone like yourself. Someone competent, responsible, trustworthy and who knows how to love without deliberately doing things that hurt you. Those people exist, but he’s not one of them.
Life sends us temptations to see if we’re really serious about not doing the same stupid thing over again. Sometimes we create our own temptations to test ourselves. This is just one of those times. You’re better than this. You deserve more.
Just brush it off. Say “no thanks” to whatever sent this to you. It’s a distraction, not important. You’ve got better, happier things to look forward to.
Namate.
Kathy
Banana
Here, here Kathleen and Oxy, I’ll second that!
Re: the crying – why is he crying when he is the one who has betrayed you? He wants the ‘instant fix’ and he will go to any lengths to get it.
Stay strong and stay away. As Kathleen so rightly said – he needs to fix himself – you can’t fix him. He will NEVER fix himself, he will NEVER be truthful and loyal – he just wants the security of the stable relationship – as soon as this is re-established, he will just get cleverer at blindsiding you – this is HOW THEY OPERATE – you will just be enabling him.
God bless and keep you and keep posting for strength.
banana:
Three things jumped out at me from his texts.
First, count the number of “I”s as in “I want”, “I need”, etc. The number is staggering.
Second, count the number of “we”s. Pretty damned small except with respect to the “we”s illuminating what he/I want.
Third, look at the “you” statements in his texts. If I am not mistaken, every “you” statement involves something that “you” can do to give him what he/I wants.
Fourth, the manipulation in those statements is staggering. Especially when it comes to the baby. “Please call me about the baby. It’s important.” Extremely manipulative. If there is something important than he should be communicating it directly. I hate to sound heartless, but since he is the parent responsible for your child’s well-being during what I am concluding is his visitation, he should have the numbers for doctors, emergency rooms, etc and act accordingly.
Fifth, the manipulation by using your child is also very illuminating. Classic sociopath — use others to do your dirty work — even if they are infants.
Sixth. Your lawyer is right — he can’t save you from yourself if you are determined to go back to this lunacy. If you are thinking of doing this for the “sake of your child” — I can speak as the victim of two lunatics who stayed together for my siblings and my sake. We would all have cheerfully sold body parts to finance our parents divorce. Don’t do this for your kid’s sake. He will thank you later.
Seventh. If you go back, by the time you decide to refile for divorce, I suspect you will have given up so much leverage, and be so much more beaten down that you will not be able to wage half the battle you are now waging.
Save yourself. Save your sanity. Save your kid. Don’t get drawn in.
Speaking as a lawyer, I would go into court and get a restraining order prohibitting him from contacting you except with respec to CLEAR AND EXPLICIT EMAILS REGARDING YOUR CHILD.
On those emails, I would make him use what in law school we called the “IRAQ” method which stands for Issue, Reason, Answer, Question. (Obviously you rearrange them into the proper order). See? Clear and Explicit. None of the manipulation I saw in his texts.
banana:
Now that I see the posting, a hell of a lot more things than three jumped out at me. Sorry.
Banana, Yes, his disorder is “more than this.”
I thought his repeating, “alone just let me know that i’m not gonna get in trouble for talking to you. please answer me.”
Clear sign that he is only thinking of himself, not you.
I thought it was interesting that he thought it was a “great” conversation when you basically called him on everything.
Please don’t let the “God is helpint me” persuade you from your decision to divorce him. Mine pulled that on me and I let it get to me but only “bought” me 10 months of more inrwnaw pain. I did feel good about giving him a chance — but was it worth it? NO!!
Golly, “inrwnaw” should be INTENSE pain. (Where did I put my reading glasses?!)
Banana,
All good advise above. For me, and I think many women, we pay attention to WORDS instead of actions. TURN OFF THE SOUND. Look at what he is doing….and NOT DOING. As Kathy points out, he has DONE nothing to deal with his problem. As Matt points out, his focus on himself has not changed.
When my husband (who is NOT a n/p/s) confessed that he had hid a drinking problem from me for 38 years, he said “I know words won’t make this right, only actions. Here are the actions I’m going to take. Let me know if there are more actions you want me to take. And I know none of this counts until I start doing them.” His actions included joining support groups, signing a promise to me that I could have all the assets if he ever lied about drinking to me again, books he purchased and read, going to a marriage counselor with me, not drinking, answering all my questions honestly, and most importantly, he started being RESPONSIBLE about our finances, the work at home, helping me with my at home job, applying for jobs, doing income producing activities, working his butt off. And he has kept it up for 6 months
Matt…
You are doing GREAT at deciphering these people! All that you said did not occur to me.