I’ve spoken to many people who have had their lives shredded by sociopaths. They are traumatized about their physical, emotional and financial injuries. They can’t understand how someone can cause them so much pain, and be so callous about it.
A statement I hear frequently is, “I didn’t know such evil existed.”
Why don’t we know about sociopaths? I think there are several reasons:
1. Mental health professionals can’t agree on terminology and diagnostic criteria.
These disordered individuals are referred to as sociopaths, psychopaths or people with antisocial personality disorder. Which is the right term? It depends on whom you ask.
Dr. Robert Hare, the guru of the disorder, uses the term “psychopath,” which he applies to people who meet the criteria of his Psychopathy Checklist Revised (PCL-R).
The American Psychiatric Association uses the term “antisocial personality disorder,” and the definition is vague, unwieldy, and open to interpretation. This professional body has no diagnostic criteria for a psychopath.
For more on the different terminology, see Psychopath or Sociopath? on Lovefraud.com.
The point is that the professionals are in disagreement and disarray. So where does that leave the rest of us? How are we supposed to figure this out when the professionals can’t come to an agreement? More importantly, how are we supposed to educate others when the basic facts—what to call the disorder and how to identify it—are so cloudy?
Here on Lovefraud, many of you refer to these predators as P/S/N psychopath-sociopath-narcissist. It works among those of us who know what they look like. But people who have not had the experience of being defrauded, devalued and discarded don’t get what we’re talking about. The awkward terminology makes trying to explain our experience even more confusing.
2. The media won’t write about sociopaths.
When it comes to sociopaths, most journalists don’t get it. I am comfortable making that statement, because I was once a journalist who didn’t get it. And it seems that journalists don’t even want to get it.
Many people have told me that information about sociopaths should be in women’s magazines. I agree. In fact, I’ve tried to get their attention.
I am a magazine journalist. I was the original editor of Atlantic City Magazine, and I’ve written for other publications. I know how the business works. To pitch a story to a magazine, you first study the publication to determine how it serves its audience. Then you craft a story idea to match the publication’s approach. Then you send a query letter to pitch your story idea. Then, when the magazine accepts your idea, you write the article.
Since 2005, I’ve sent 18 query letters to magazines such as More, Good Housekeeping, Redbook, Ladies Home Journal, New Woman, Self, Health and Psychology Today. I tried a range of approaches to bring attention to the problem of sociopaths.
Every single query was rejected.
Personally, I think the magazines are afraid of touching anything that sounds “nasty.” But publications face another problem—defamation lawsuits.
Media lawyers don’t want the publications or broadcasters they represent to publish anything that may lead to a lawsuit. Here’s what they tell their media clients:
- Don’t accuse someone of a crime unless he has confessed or been convicted.
- Don’t say someone has a physical or mental disease unless you have proof.
- Don’t accuse someone of being incompetent or dishonest in his occupation.
- Don’t say someone is unchaste, especially if it is a woman.
Sociopaths commit crime, are portrayed as having a mental illness (although it is actually a personality disorder), are dishonest at their jobs and are downright promiscuous. Saying any of it could cause legal problems.
This is apparent in the case study on Lovefraud.com about Ed Hicks. The victim in the case, Sandra Phipps, received a lot of media attention, because her ex was married seven times, and committed bigamy four times. Every time she was interviewed, she said, “In my opinion, Ed Hicks is a sociopath.” Usually the newspapers wouldn’t print her quote.
Sandra was even on the Dr. Phil Show about her case. When the show was taped, Dr. Phil himself said Ed Hicks was a sociopath. The lawyers cut it out.
See Call Ed Hicks a bigamist, but not a sociopath.
3. Hollywood sensationalizes the disorder.
Most people believe psychopaths are serial killers. Deranged, diabolical murderers. I think this is a direct result of how they are portrayed in movies and on television shows.
The classic, of course, is Alfred Hitchcock’s Psycho, which had nothing to do with a psychopath. More recently, the TV show Dexter is about a serial killer who channels his violent impulses to only kill people who deserve it. Many describe the Dexter character as a psychopath or sociopath. I don’t know what Dexter is, but he wouldn’t be diagnosed as either.
Read Psycho movies add to the confusion.
The cultural image of psychopaths and sociopaths makes education even more difficult. Yes, some of these disordered people are bloodthirsty killers. But only a tiny fraction of them, at the highest end of the PCL-R, match the profile. Far more run-of-the-mill sociopaths exploit, abuse, cheat and defraud, but stop way short of killing.
So educating people about sociopaths is an uphill battle. First we have to overcome their currently skewed image, delivered by Hollywood. Then we have to overcome the confusion in terminology and diagnosis in the mental health field. Then we have to convince the media to deal with the disorder, and the people who have it, accurately.
Sigh. This will take awhile.
Well, Skylar, I understand MOST of what you wrote just above. I would not, nor ever would be understanding as that woman who befriended her finally-outted husband. At least I don’t think so, but then my ex never apologized. He sucked 8.5 years of my life from me..including the last few years I could have had children. He more or less did the same to his first wife (he had two failed marriages before me) who got pregnant. When he would not even help her name the baby and he (according to her) one night didn’t come home after running off with “two gay guys on motorcycles”, she was left no choice but abortion, which left her with an infection, which left her barren..never able to have children from her body. Really.., it was as if he WANTED to turn us into MEN! NO. SORRY. I would NEVER be as understanding as that wife of the “outted” guy. Oh, and I did read that book by King, but I would never PAY for it. My S.O. found a copy of it in Salvation, for $1. I found it to be a useful book, but I don’t necessarily think King’s a hero for writing it, though one thing he did say made sense..that no matter how much anal sex or oral sex the wife of a man like that gives him, it will NEVER have him stop from sexing men on the side..it WON’T make him heterosexual. Might have been one thing to find out he decided ONLY to “do” men after me, but I found out from ANOTHER FEMALE FRIEND that he had been having an affair with a MARRIED FEMALE, as well, who was an individual who had PRETENDED to be my friend for a couple of years..or at least pretended to be a friendly acquaintance when she was married to her SECOND husband, a friend of mine.
Must clarify, though, Skylar..he never put anything up MY yazoo, nor will any man..not ever.
I’m not going to get into any tits for tats about my opinion, nor defend it anymore, not to one/joy or anyone else. For all I know, there could be one or more bloggers up here..(possibly even my ex using a secret “handle”) & getting off on the “thrill” of reading about people being abused), but I will say that I found this next source, “Cycle of child sexual abuse: links between being a victim and becoming a perpetrator” to be highly informative:http://bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/full/bjprcpsych;179/6/482
Someone posted a comment to my womansaver.com profile about my ex..told me about that one.
To Eva’s statement above, RE Hugo Marietan’s theory.. “He says there’s nothing to cure, because they’re not sick at all”
Well then .., maybe someday those “not sick at all” persons (SPATHS?) will have their come-uppins, will be prosecuted for fraud, and will not be able to get off the charges with “mental insanity” pleas. That’s why I hope a law will be created to prosecute sexual identity/orientation fraud, because they ARE defrauding us, and not telling us what the real scoop is about their true identities, but pretending to be something else. Again..doing so REMOVES our “informed consent” .. as badly as rape does, in my opinion.
Nor have I personally “attacked” or “insulted” Hopeforjoy or one/joy_step_at_a_time, nor was that my intent. Hopeforjoy might try to understand, though, that he or she at least got the chance to become a parent/grandparent, and did. That choice was removed from me by my ex. I can understand how one who has been blessed to become a parent might not be able to empathize with a woman who WANTED to become a parent/grandparent, but her choices were REMOVED.
Many are “uninterested” in “books that categorically draw lines between gay/ bi sexual orientation and same sex incest” but others ARE interested. I don’t think I mentioned books, though, I mentioned an online source about a scientific study, and that study was not conducted by just ONE person (homophobic or otherwise.) Scientists are typically not “biased” that way, or at least aren’t supposed to be. No need to be antagonistic. I wasn’t trying to be, and don’t think I was.
Actually, “Normal For Abuse to Lead To Homosexuality?” is a blog, not a book. The bloggers are wondering THEMSELVES if their sexual orientation could have come from being sexually abused, so blogged on topic. The cached version:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:do7S_qfLYMwJ:www.psychforums.com/sexual-abuse-incest/topic59008.html+%22http://www.psychforums.com/sexual-abuse-incest/topic59008.html%22&hl=en&gl=us&strip=1
To me, lovefraud.com is an OPEN forum, open for discussion on various/sundry subtopics (of the main topic, “Why we don’t know about sociopaths”) .. about why people may or may not have become SPATHS, about why or why they may {key word is “may” here} or may not have become so, about why women did/didn’t know their guy was a spath. So, it was free speech for me to post my opinion/take on things. Whoever reads my posts can choose to get angry or not, or to ignore my posts, and not to call someone “homophobic” just because he/she points to a topic. I happen to have gay friends, too, so am NOT a homophobe. That was one label that my ex tried projecting on me, too [because I SUSPECT, down deep he wanted ME to experience sexual identity confusion the way HE did, and I suspect he was “re-enacting” that abuse onto me!], with a gutter-language e-mail he sent, threatening (emotional blackmail) that he could “expose” me for having once watched a film about lesbians with him and how my panties “got wet” [they did not, and the film was one rented in Blockbuster, not from a porn shop (where he typically bought/rented his sick gay/orgy porn.)]
If anyone got upset because I mentioned, above, that a researcher had posted/quoted many profiles on-line, to my comment section, under my profile about my ex, and of those posted most were about DL guys, most of whom ALSO alleged/profiled to be “bisexuals” and ALSO alleged to be gigolos. Well..don’t shoot the messenger, because I DIDN’T PROFILE THOSE OTHER GUYS, but what was posted in that comment section turns out, I think, to be an excellent “down-low” list, warning other women about them.
Other reading I recommend (because these can lead to understanding OTHER REASONS why SPATHS BECOME SPATHS, and WHY, at first, or maybe not even for years, we fail to notice how they PREY on us):
SOURCE 1 (NOT A BOOK BUT A LECTURE): “Incest and Sexual Addiction” by John Bradshaw, http://www.johnbradshaw.com/incestandsexualaddiction.aspx : “John Bradshaw presents his perspectives on new concepts of sexual abuse, including startling data on the extent of incest, three levels of sexual addiction, the dynamics of incested families, a profile of sex offenders and predators and a profile of the partners of sex addicts (COSA–Codependents of Sex Addicts). In the computer age, it is possible to secretly and compulsively act out sexual addictions without having an intimate relation. Often, sexual addiction predates other addictions and it is primarily rooted in shame. This revealing lecture series explores and exposes the various causes, index of suspicion and healing for sex addicts”
SOURCE 2 (NOT A BOOK): “Molestation – incest and sexual addiction”, Expert: Sarah Harrison – 11/18/2009, http://en.allexperts.com/q/Molestation-1453/2009/11/incest-sexual-addiction.htm
SOURCE 3 (NOT A BOOK): http://mentalhealthedce.com/courses/contentSA/secSA11.html , “Detecting a History of Undisclosed Incest,” Healthcare Training Institute, Section 11, “Sexual Abuse / Trauma,” “Can a child molester be rehabilitated?” EXCERPTS: “The type of child molester most resistant to treatment is called a fixed pedophile. These people primarily abuse children of their own gender, and across family lines (which is not the majority of sex abusers). We don’t have a good record of stopping fixed pedophile from abusing again. In general, this is not the case with incest perpetrators” “Common Presenting Symptoms [ ] Sexual problems including [ ] avoidance of sexual intimacy, sexually aggressive and compulsive behaviors, sexual identity confusion [ ]” “Disguised presentation of undisclosed incest [ ] Gelinas [ ] identifies three underlying negative effects: chronic, traumatic neurosis, continued relationship imbalances, and increased intergenerational risk of incest”
As for being “proud” of myself. Yes, I guess I am proud .. proud to have FINALLY gained back much of the self esteem that he STOLE from me, though I will admit I might be “obsessed” about trying to figure out the reasons why he became a (in my opinion) SPATH, and how he got from point A to point B. But I don’t have OCDC, at least I don’t think so.
Hi zimzoom. Hugo mostly says that psychopathy is a way of being. They can not change so after studying them for decades he’s now more interested in what he calls “the complementary” of the psychopath, who are mostly women.
He works in putting those complementaries out of what he calls “the psychopathic circle”. He says when the woman is receiving some kind of pleasure from the psycho is impossible to put her out, but when they’re abandoned by the psychopath or they themselves get exhausted, he tries to prevent they to look for the psycho again.
And now he’s interested in what it is that maintains those dysfunctional relationships that he says are voluntary relationships. Of course he insinuates are sadomasochistic relationships in which both sides get what they need.
And be sure he doesn’t consider psychopaths human. He is interested in the complementary, who is, despite the many issues, the human one.
zimzoomit 😀 you’re refering to bisexuality. That can not be a crime because there’s no way to prove the crime since there exist in fact people confussed about their sexual orientation.
So the psychopath would always say he/she is confussed too.
“I saw a hole…” You know them. There’s nothing to do.
Other more serious crimes of them need to be persecuted before their bisexual “confussions”.
It could be mine could have had more than one confussion of those…And i suspect which role he would play.
Eva
“I saw a hole…”
LOL!
You crack me up.