I’ve spoken to many people who have had their lives shredded by sociopaths. They are traumatized about their physical, emotional and financial injuries. They can’t understand how someone can cause them so much pain, and be so callous about it.
A statement I hear frequently is, “I didn’t know such evil existed.”
Why don’t we know about sociopaths? I think there are several reasons:
1. Mental health professionals can’t agree on terminology and diagnostic criteria.
These disordered individuals are referred to as sociopaths, psychopaths or people with antisocial personality disorder. Which is the right term? It depends on whom you ask.
Dr. Robert Hare, the guru of the disorder, uses the term “psychopath,” which he applies to people who meet the criteria of his Psychopathy Checklist Revised (PCL-R).
The American Psychiatric Association uses the term “antisocial personality disorder,” and the definition is vague, unwieldy, and open to interpretation. This professional body has no diagnostic criteria for a psychopath.
For more on the different terminology, see Psychopath or Sociopath? on Lovefraud.com.
The point is that the professionals are in disagreement and disarray. So where does that leave the rest of us? How are we supposed to figure this out when the professionals can’t come to an agreement? More importantly, how are we supposed to educate others when the basic facts—what to call the disorder and how to identify it—are so cloudy?
Here on Lovefraud, many of you refer to these predators as P/S/N psychopath-sociopath-narcissist. It works among those of us who know what they look like. But people who have not had the experience of being defrauded, devalued and discarded don’t get what we’re talking about. The awkward terminology makes trying to explain our experience even more confusing.
2. The media won’t write about sociopaths.
When it comes to sociopaths, most journalists don’t get it. I am comfortable making that statement, because I was once a journalist who didn’t get it. And it seems that journalists don’t even want to get it.
Many people have told me that information about sociopaths should be in women’s magazines. I agree. In fact, I’ve tried to get their attention.
I am a magazine journalist. I was the original editor of Atlantic City Magazine, and I’ve written for other publications. I know how the business works. To pitch a story to a magazine, you first study the publication to determine how it serves its audience. Then you craft a story idea to match the publication’s approach. Then you send a query letter to pitch your story idea. Then, when the magazine accepts your idea, you write the article.
Since 2005, I’ve sent 18 query letters to magazines such as More, Good Housekeeping, Redbook, Ladies Home Journal, New Woman, Self, Health and Psychology Today. I tried a range of approaches to bring attention to the problem of sociopaths.
Every single query was rejected.
Personally, I think the magazines are afraid of touching anything that sounds “nasty.” But publications face another problem—defamation lawsuits.
Media lawyers don’t want the publications or broadcasters they represent to publish anything that may lead to a lawsuit. Here’s what they tell their media clients:
- Don’t accuse someone of a crime unless he has confessed or been convicted.
- Don’t say someone has a physical or mental disease unless you have proof.
- Don’t accuse someone of being incompetent or dishonest in his occupation.
- Don’t say someone is unchaste, especially if it is a woman.
Sociopaths commit crime, are portrayed as having a mental illness (although it is actually a personality disorder), are dishonest at their jobs and are downright promiscuous. Saying any of it could cause legal problems.
This is apparent in the case study on Lovefraud.com about Ed Hicks. The victim in the case, Sandra Phipps, received a lot of media attention, because her ex was married seven times, and committed bigamy four times. Every time she was interviewed, she said, “In my opinion, Ed Hicks is a sociopath.” Usually the newspapers wouldn’t print her quote.
Sandra was even on the Dr. Phil Show about her case. When the show was taped, Dr. Phil himself said Ed Hicks was a sociopath. The lawyers cut it out.
See Call Ed Hicks a bigamist, but not a sociopath.
3. Hollywood sensationalizes the disorder.
Most people believe psychopaths are serial killers. Deranged, diabolical murderers. I think this is a direct result of how they are portrayed in movies and on television shows.
The classic, of course, is Alfred Hitchcock’s Psycho, which had nothing to do with a psychopath. More recently, the TV show Dexter is about a serial killer who channels his violent impulses to only kill people who deserve it. Many describe the Dexter character as a psychopath or sociopath. I don’t know what Dexter is, but he wouldn’t be diagnosed as either.
Read Psycho movies add to the confusion.
The cultural image of psychopaths and sociopaths makes education even more difficult. Yes, some of these disordered people are bloodthirsty killers. But only a tiny fraction of them, at the highest end of the PCL-R, match the profile. Far more run-of-the-mill sociopaths exploit, abuse, cheat and defraud, but stop way short of killing.
So educating people about sociopaths is an uphill battle. First we have to overcome their currently skewed image, delivered by Hollywood. Then we have to overcome the confusion in terminology and diagnosis in the mental health field. Then we have to convince the media to deal with the disorder, and the people who have it, accurately.
Sigh. This will take awhile.
Wow many good points here to think about from the article and others like swallow and recovering. It is hard to label many of these people because they do change their tactics to fit different situations/people although it is also surprising just how similar their patterns are. I have a new label for them as I have been reading up a little on fools in the Bible. Here are some quick references to such people.
As a dog returns to his vomit, so a fool returns to his folly….
It is a sport to a fool to do mischief…
Honor is not fitting for a fool….
I could go on, but here are a couple of more that also tie into why you should go no contact.
Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you will be like him yourself.
Do not speak to a fool, for he will despise the wisdom of your words.
Trying to diagnose and converse with such people will only make you crazy as many of us have found out the hard way. I think about the movie “What About Bob” applies to these people. If you hang around evil/foolish/psychopathic people you are in certain danger yourself. And they may come out looking good with you as the bad person. Believe it or not.
Recovering – I will certainly look out some bookmarked links for you = what I was referring to with the term ‘cluster b diagram’ is the listing of presenting symptoms in each type of disorder – to see each class of disorder laid out beside each other gave me the view that personality is a spectrum and there is a spectrum within each type of disorder too. For example – a person may have just a few of the traits of psychopathy – that doesn’t necessarily mean they will do you less harm, but they might not be as far up the scale as for example a convicted murderer who has been formally diagnosed.
I can certainly also give you some resources to read on abuse – most are around psychological and emotional abuse. Over a period of about three months, I copied and pasted things I could relate to or had experienced from lots of abuse sites – within three months that document I saved was almost seven hundred pages in length! So that was my first clue that my gut had been right and there was definitely something wrong here – I realised with horror that I was being abused. I kept looking for REASONS for the abuse and that’s when I came across the concept of personality disorders – it was useful to me to read the traits of all of them – including CLuster C so I could recognise traits in him and traits of dysfunction in me to understand the dynamic that was created by the two of us.
Male priviledge is really a feminist term – the idea that men are entitled to better treatment in society and subserviance from women by virtue of the fact they are men. It seems to have largely disappeared from our awareness in society, but one place where the concept still thrives is romantic relationships – for example – when in relationship with someone – who does the cleaning? Who does most of the cooking? True there are some men who are changing the picture and taking responsibility for themselves, but on most research women do 10 – 20 hours per week more unpaid work – whether taking care of children or doing unpaid domestic tasks. Imagine if this work was compensated for … or included in the Gross National Product! I’ve decided bugger getting a husband … I want a wife – they do so much more for free lol
Will have a dig for the links – this stuff is really interesting – just depends how in depth you want to go with it. As always with things published online use your own judgement and look for correlations between different versions of information you read – not all of it is totally accurate, but more than happy to share what I found helpful in my journey thus far. Actually wouldn’t it be good to have a thread on useful links and resources?
Recovering – here are a few to have a look at – will find you more when I have a bit more time!
This one gives an awesome breakdown of abusive behaviours – emotional and psychological abuse is hard to pin down because it is generally covert and happens in private …
http://www.outofthefogsite.com/CommonBehaviors.html
This one is from Theodore Millon who thinks there are ten subtypes of psychopathy …
http://www.scribd.com/doc/15904839/Ten-Subtypes-of-Psychopathy-Theodore-Millon-Roger-D-Davis
This site gives a great overview of emotional abuse techniques
http://eqi.org/eabuse1.htm
And this gives an overview of what invalidation is and why it is so harmful to people
http://eqi.org/invalid.htm
This one has a lot of ‘opinion’ and is not the most scientific – if you have a look around they are also into ideas about aliens and crop circles! But nonetheless I found some of the writing on psychopathy fascinating and read everything I could get my hands on …
http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm
The last two are quotes from survivors of abuse – whether the person had a personality disorder or not … I don’t know but I read a lot of quotes that I could really relate to
http://www.homestead.com/~site/scripts_newguest/newguest.dll?CMD=CMDGetViewEntriesPage&&STYLE=elegant%2f&RETURN=http%253a%252f%252fpa2%252ehomestead%252ecom%252fArchives%252ehtml&GBID=4367261&ENTRYID=1602747&FORWARDFLAG=true&DISPLAY=17&EM=false&EMAILADDRESS=ENC%5f%5f&CUSTOMVALUE=false&TARGETURL=&H_H=6425604&H_P=1&H_A=8207084&H_V=
(my that’s a big link!)
This one categorises quotes into themes on various topics
http://survivorquotes.bravehost.com/danddd.html
Hope this helps – I’ll dig out some more later for you 🙂
To your good learning and healing!
Geminigirl – there is a new poster called HurtMom who is seeking to blog with others who have children who are disordered – she posted on the After the sociopath how do we heal part 16 – the end of recovery thread and is looking for advice and support from others in the same situation.
You must be very shocked to see this situation unfold with your own daughter – I am so sorry you are seeing all this – it must be so hurtful to you as her mother. Hugs.
Pollyannanomore, thanks for the good websites. They are all helpful in their own way and knowledge is power!
I wish that schools would have programmes to teach kids about personality disorders ( maybe some do have behaviour classes). It does not need to be explained in scary or disturbing ways but could outline such things as acceptable and non -acceptable behviour, red flags to look for , how to enforce boundaries and how to deal with such people.
If my sister and I had been given that knowledge when we were young, we would have realised that our Mother had a personality disorder and it may have saved us from many, many years of emotional and psychological torment.
Swallow
Persephone (and others)
Yeah, I always thought it was a trite comment to say “blame it on T.V., but when you look at all the porn that’s readily available to anyone with a cable subscription, and the amount of porn on the internet, well, it’s just out there; it’s everywhere. And young people today have a such a different attitude about their bodies and sexuality. Sometimes I look at teen-agers and kids in their early 20s, and think “this is what my generation raised” (yeah, I’m in my early 50s, but I never had kids.)
This means a two-fold brutal admission, and I hope that those of you who very conscientiously raised your kids will excuse me. As someone who works with underprivileged young people, I have seen a fair sampling of a certain part of this upcoming generation and their dysfunctional parents to feel I can venture such conclusions. I will also say I implicate myself in these points: 1. my generation, myself included, was the “me” generation, and we did a fair amount for our own satisfaction. Perhaps we didn’t even realize we were fulfilling our own desires so fully, sometimes without paying as much attention as we might to the needs of our children. (Of course, other social circumstances contributed: the NEED to have a high income and also the generation that raised us that wanted us to have more than they had. . . . ) 2. many of our children were raised with TV as a major pacifier and baby-sitter. They are absolutely media oriented, and turn to a screen for answers to their problems far more quickly than they turn to a real human being.
So now we have kids sending pictures of themselves naked over their phones or over the internet. There’s a plethora of websites with college girl (and guy) porn, and college girls think NOTHING of putting their bodies out there. You know, it happens at sorority and fraternity parties, and a number of other places where kids just aren’t using their right minds, and experimenting with testing their boundaries.)
Part of me is terrifically jealous of the physical confidence these young kids exude, as well as their willingness to be open to alternative sexualities. But what about their emotional health? Did they have to come up with their own alternative to emotional health, as they sat there in front of the television or video game while their parents were off working, drinking, smoking pot, having affairs, or whatever they did? Is this generation that is just now entering the work force a generation in which sociopathy is a more dominant psychic state?
But there are kids who are feeling, caring individuals out there. I know from experience that some are working really hard to take responsibility for their actions. Still even those kids are out there, taking chances and testing their own boundaries, and inadvertantly advertising themselves, either consciously or not so consciously, on the web or in other media. And those sicko sociopaths who have their radars out for innocence and naivete are out there, too, enjoying the show, and reaching into the candy dish every now and then and taking a nibble.
Unfortunately, this was something I noticed my S starting to do. When I found it on his computer, he claimed he was not looking at the College Girl Porn, that it was his son, but his son had moved out months previous to this! And I think he was starting to do more than look. I know he’s absolutely capable of luring in some inexperienced, naieve young girl or guy and doing some real damage to their psyche before discarding them. It makes me really worried, and really sad.
I posted but I guess someone took it down, I don’t know why, I am dealing with this problem two fold, one has a chance because he is young the other is too far gone, I wish someone would tell me why my post was taken down.
pollyannanomore — Thanks for the extensive resource list. I’ve been keeping various resources for 20 years on all forms of topics related to oppression including male privilege, racism and sexism, mental and spiritual health issues.
Once in a while I find that someone will pull together all this diverse information in ways that provide new context for understanding things at a higher level.
I like Patricia Evans’ book, “Controlling People,” which deals with people who are “pretending” in a more routine way, without using N/S/P criteria, but her overview helps me see the N/S/P framework from a different angle.
Lots of great stuff out there! Knowledge is power.
teacher123: Fascinating quotes you reference on foolish people, that can be found in the Bible.
You make a very good point that trying to figure out/diagnose such people can make anyone look crazy — because so many people on the “outside” refuse to believe that evil is real; they can only accept it as a concept/idea, if that.
I’ve seen how in many workplaces, good people can end up looking crazy and get attacked/not supported when they try to be honest or right wrongs done by slick and manipulative types.
Too right Louise – slightly feminist though I am I have to admit that much of this damage may have been done by these kids having no adult available to them as they were in previous generations when Mom was at home. Mind you there is no possibility really of Mom staying home now – Dad might leave and then where would the family be with no career to support them. Childcare is all well and good but strangers don;t have the same investment in the children as a blood relative does and in childcare there are so many children to too few caregivers and teachers – one to one attention is an impossibility with a focus on profits. I am seeing how wrong it all is but don;t see any answers ahead – people have to work to live.