I’ve spoken to many people who have had their lives shredded by sociopaths. They are traumatized about their physical, emotional and financial injuries. They can’t understand how someone can cause them so much pain, and be so callous about it.
A statement I hear frequently is, “I didn’t know such evil existed.”
Why don’t we know about sociopaths? I think there are several reasons:
1. Mental health professionals can’t agree on terminology and diagnostic criteria.
These disordered individuals are referred to as sociopaths, psychopaths or people with antisocial personality disorder. Which is the right term? It depends on whom you ask.
Dr. Robert Hare, the guru of the disorder, uses the term “psychopath,” which he applies to people who meet the criteria of his Psychopathy Checklist Revised (PCL-R).
The American Psychiatric Association uses the term “antisocial personality disorder,” and the definition is vague, unwieldy, and open to interpretation. This professional body has no diagnostic criteria for a psychopath.
For more on the different terminology, see Psychopath or Sociopath? on Lovefraud.com.
The point is that the professionals are in disagreement and disarray. So where does that leave the rest of us? How are we supposed to figure this out when the professionals can’t come to an agreement? More importantly, how are we supposed to educate others when the basic facts—what to call the disorder and how to identify it—are so cloudy?
Here on Lovefraud, many of you refer to these predators as P/S/N psychopath-sociopath-narcissist. It works among those of us who know what they look like. But people who have not had the experience of being defrauded, devalued and discarded don’t get what we’re talking about. The awkward terminology makes trying to explain our experience even more confusing.
2. The media won’t write about sociopaths.
When it comes to sociopaths, most journalists don’t get it. I am comfortable making that statement, because I was once a journalist who didn’t get it. And it seems that journalists don’t even want to get it.
Many people have told me that information about sociopaths should be in women’s magazines. I agree. In fact, I’ve tried to get their attention.
I am a magazine journalist. I was the original editor of Atlantic City Magazine, and I’ve written for other publications. I know how the business works. To pitch a story to a magazine, you first study the publication to determine how it serves its audience. Then you craft a story idea to match the publication’s approach. Then you send a query letter to pitch your story idea. Then, when the magazine accepts your idea, you write the article.
Since 2005, I’ve sent 18 query letters to magazines such as More, Good Housekeeping, Redbook, Ladies Home Journal, New Woman, Self, Health and Psychology Today. I tried a range of approaches to bring attention to the problem of sociopaths.
Every single query was rejected.
Personally, I think the magazines are afraid of touching anything that sounds “nasty.” But publications face another problem—defamation lawsuits.
Media lawyers don’t want the publications or broadcasters they represent to publish anything that may lead to a lawsuit. Here’s what they tell their media clients:
- Don’t accuse someone of a crime unless he has confessed or been convicted.
- Don’t say someone has a physical or mental disease unless you have proof.
- Don’t accuse someone of being incompetent or dishonest in his occupation.
- Don’t say someone is unchaste, especially if it is a woman.
Sociopaths commit crime, are portrayed as having a mental illness (although it is actually a personality disorder), are dishonest at their jobs and are downright promiscuous. Saying any of it could cause legal problems.
This is apparent in the case study on Lovefraud.com about Ed Hicks. The victim in the case, Sandra Phipps, received a lot of media attention, because her ex was married seven times, and committed bigamy four times. Every time she was interviewed, she said, “In my opinion, Ed Hicks is a sociopath.” Usually the newspapers wouldn’t print her quote.
Sandra was even on the Dr. Phil Show about her case. When the show was taped, Dr. Phil himself said Ed Hicks was a sociopath. The lawyers cut it out.
See Call Ed Hicks a bigamist, but not a sociopath.
3. Hollywood sensationalizes the disorder.
Most people believe psychopaths are serial killers. Deranged, diabolical murderers. I think this is a direct result of how they are portrayed in movies and on television shows.
The classic, of course, is Alfred Hitchcock’s Psycho, which had nothing to do with a psychopath. More recently, the TV show Dexter is about a serial killer who channels his violent impulses to only kill people who deserve it. Many describe the Dexter character as a psychopath or sociopath. I don’t know what Dexter is, but he wouldn’t be diagnosed as either.
Read Psycho movies add to the confusion.
The cultural image of psychopaths and sociopaths makes education even more difficult. Yes, some of these disordered people are bloodthirsty killers. But only a tiny fraction of them, at the highest end of the PCL-R, match the profile. Far more run-of-the-mill sociopaths exploit, abuse, cheat and defraud, but stop way short of killing.
So educating people about sociopaths is an uphill battle. First we have to overcome their currently skewed image, delivered by Hollywood. Then we have to overcome the confusion in terminology and diagnosis in the mental health field. Then we have to convince the media to deal with the disorder, and the people who have it, accurately.
Sigh. This will take awhile.
notcrazee – do you work out, or walk or swim, anything? It would help you to release some of the adrenaline.
Thanks one! Have a great evening! Maybe it will be restored Monday!
ntcrze1!
One of the first people who published about psychopathy called it “moral insanity”—and that is about as good as it gets because that is what they are, they are INSANE IN A MORAL SENSE…just as a person who is “crazy” (not a technical term) doesn’t know REALITY the psychopath doesn’t know MORAL REALITY, doesn’t recognize it from a stone!
There is some research going on, and papers being published and there is a professional organization for studying psychopathy (by that name) but still some of the professionals and researchers don’t really “get it” outside of a prison…so there isn’t anything we can do on a grand scale, unfortunately, but we can do it by word of mouth, by one-on-one working with victims, with DV shelters and with schools and with our own children and grandchildren. It isn’t a fast answer, just like MADD hasn’t wiped out drunk driving, but it is a start…
Drover,
That is exactly what I am talking about. You used the phrase MADD. That is the branding I am refering to. Everybody knows what MADD stands for. We the people, the victims and surviviors need to have that same recognizable branding when it comes to this “moral insanity”. If I talk about the abuse in my county and use the phrase sociopath, but someone else speaks in a county away and uses the phrase moral insanity…. the dots won’t connect, it won’t click in peoples mind and spread. Office chatter, church chatter, community chatter we all need to try and use the same phrase/title. Just my opinion. and YES they are morally insane!!! I never would have thought of that phrase until my xspath. No concept of the 2 words together. Boy I know it now! and I want people who aren’t victims to know what it stands for and to avoid it. Proactive, is what I am trying to be here when it comes to the abuse. Save just one life from D&D! It will be worth my effort!
Thanks for sharing!
soimnotthecrazee1!!
Drover,
OMG!!! I just a commercial for rudolph… that reminded me of the time he told me I came form the land of misfits just like him. That I was a misfit.
Let me tell you…. perfect I may not be BUT a misfit I am not!
I have moral sanity!!!!!!
That must be part of the devalue!
soimnotthecrazee1!!!
Yea, but sometimes they SEEM to fit in…they mirror to others what the other expects, they wear the MASK to cover their moral insanity. I agree with you it would be very good if there was a “brand” like with the Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD), and MADD has done a lot of good, but they estimate that on a Friday or Saturday night that 10% + of all drivers on the road are over the legal limit for “drunk”–all the MADD ABOUT PSYCHOPATHS, or “WIPE OUT PSYCHOPATHS” groups in the world, or “Women against Domestic Violence” or “people against domestic violence” aren’t going to Eliminate psychopaths or psychopathic behavior.
Since time began humans have been trying to figure out ways to control the violent behavior of psychopaths—in groups, we call it WAR, or genocide, in individual situations we call it assault or murder—or Domestic violence. We have trials, we judges, we have law enforcement, we have prisons and jails. We have ministers and teachers…and I’m afraid that nothing is going to wipe the slime off the planet no matter what we “brand it.”
I admire your enthusiasm, and I too see a big need to “get the word out” and I do my own little “bit” for doing that….but I don’t expect evil to be wiped off the face of the earth as long as it spins around the sun! (((hugs))))
Thanks Drover! I know that we won’t wipe out the evil… let’s leave that to God. Awareness to the innocent is where my target begins. To stay away from the—— because they are destructive in your life. What is the ——? That we as people, victims and surviviors going to call them? Not making an organization… just a common “title”, and the ivory towers can finally find their own minds and get a medical diagnosis for this or not. BUT we can still make the innocent aware. My passion is all about awareness…… not orgnization, not wiping evil out of my life…… !!!
Not only awareness to the innocent but the understanding to the victims. I want to see every victim become a survivior through understanding, like I have.
Thanks for sharing!
soimnotthecrazee1!
PS> Dover… How was that cornbread stuffing? I read a few days ago about how you had the cornbread already made. MMMMMMMM…. that reminded me of mom’s dressing. We would make a few pones of cornbread and chop onion and celery and that was the best darn stuff I ever put in my mouth. I would love to have had a platefull of that today! and the gravy……OMG! moms was the best!!! I didn’t realize until I got much older what was in it!!! OMG…. giblets!!! YUK. but oh so tasty!!!
PSS. I could never even try to make any of that to compare to her food. I’m kinda a klutz in the kitchen!
soimnotthecrazee1!!
Drover, soimnotthecrazee1,
I am afraid I am in the group of enthusiasts and agree, and am on the same page, as soimnotthecrazee1.
Ever since I discovered, over much pain and frustration (futile efforts to research ’bullying’ that mostly lead to childhood bullying on the net) and several other dead-end attempts, an article on ’difficult people'[actually my wife, bless her], which led to me stumbling on the term histrionic, which led me to the cluster B’s, which held another whole world of research that I had to do to try to figure out what this guy, my tox, was doing. He is a sibling, hence my username.
I’m not sure he fits into a good category if you categorize, this, but my impression is that what he does falls into high-level narcissism, sociopathic behaviors, psychopathic behaviors, among others”…
My goal is to get these ideas into the mainstream much like the MADD organization. As a technology and music enthusiast, it was beyond me that it took so long for MP3 music to become main stream, but that only happened when Apple put out the iPod and made everything simple for the general population to understand and use. We need the same kind of tools that are approachable. Most of the terminology regular people see as psychobabble or scary, and they tend to think that you are off the deep end and you become the target when you start talking about it. It is not good to put off anyone who could become an ally.
I originally warmed to the moniker ’spath’, but it does not have the edge it needs. There is something fun sounding and stuffed animal sounding about it. To the world, my tox is one of the greatest, congenial, entertaining guys that ever lived. They would associate spath with this wonderfully entertaining humanitarian. Tox is not that ambiguous. People know what a toxin or toxic is. The word itself has an edge to it, a sharp edge, somewhat explosive. Imho, it lends itself to inquiry. It has enough flash. I think it will quickly spread.
If I had not found the information on the web to identify my tox’s PD, I am not sure I would be here, writing this to you. It was that close. LoveFraud (though my tox is a sibling and not a romantic partner and I know the site is more about the PD than just romantic predators. It was definitely a part of my awakening. We need to get the info and tools to the unaware and innocence out there so they can more quickly I.D. the predators.
I am divided on the PD footprint of Sam Vaknin, but I do owe him a debt of gratitude for the fifth segment of the documentary ‘I, Psychopath’ (search on Youtube). He bullies the director of the film, then turns around and describes what he just did to him (raising adrenaline, then back off, causing emotional chaos in the director). For me this was an ’Aha’ moment. I can’t tell you how many hours I spent arguing with my tox being played with/poisoned in this way. In another documentary, Vaknin makes two comments that are important. He states that narcissists believe that they are a superior race (most believe they themselves are superior beings). He also comments that 100,000 people are born every year—in his words”..100,000 more victims to choose from.
I do not know what the answers are. There are so many toxins covertly integrated and hidden in the general population. We need to get people to recognize these elements as easily as they recognize a Nigerian money scam artist in email.
I came from a family of toxins, with the exception that my mother might have only been an enabler, who was devastated by the death of her first born(my oldest brother to complications from down syndrome at the age of four. I heard several times by family members that she was never the same after that.
I do want to do the right thing and I try to let my gut guide my efforts, but I also try to be open minded.
Drover:
>>It really doesn’t matter what we CALL them, whether it >>is ABUSIVE partners, snakes, Gobbly-gooks, or what”>>as long as we show people the PATTERN OF >>BEHAVIOR”..as long as we get the drift of the >>behavior out there.
One in a million people will give us the time to describe these subtle behaviors and actully get it. We need short hand recognizable code word for the behaviors that will not put them off, yet alert them immediately to beware.
I have some promotion tendencies [hopefully not to heavy on the self promotion :)] and I think the moniker tox has qualities that could serve this community well to ignite understanding.
I also have urgency. I have found out way to late in life about this menace. So many books about this subject [these subjects…good and bad] are in the bargain price range. Good for motivated knowledge seekers, but it is an indication of waining interest.
So little time….so many to warn.
**I came from toxic DNA. I don’t think I am one of them, but I might have picked up some questionable behaviors spending my formative years with them. I hope not to display any or offend. Hopefully therapy will help. I started in earnest last week.