By Ox Drover
My best friend has been visiting me and, as usual, when we get together we re-share “old stories” of “remember the time when so-and-so did such-and-such and how we laughed?”
One of those stories was a funny one about a small quarrel I had with my late husband. After relating the story, I had one of those “ah ha!” moments that applies to a lot of things in life.
My husband had a partial plate that was almost impossible for the dentist to get seated so that it did not “flop” and my husband used some of that pink goop that you put under a dental plate to keep it glued down. Every evening when he would get ready for bed, he would go into our bathroom, take the plate out, scrape the goop off, clean it, re-goop it, and then replace it into his mouth.
The pink goop, while wet, was the consistency of chewing gum, but when it dried on the sink, it became the consistency of concrete and I had to practically chisel it out to clean the sink. I offhandedly asked him if he would be sure he cleaned it out well before he went to bed and he assured me he would do so. I saw absolutely no improvement when I went to clean the sink the next time and I became irritated.
I asked him again to please make sure he got it ALL when he cleaned the sink and he assured me he would. Again, when I noticed that there was still no improvement, and now quite irritated, I started to nag him about how inconsiderate he was to make me have to chisel this stuff out of the sink, when it would be so simple for him to wipe it out when it was still moist.
He patiently listened to my tirade then said, “Honey, I am trying, but because it is pink, and I am color blind I can’t see it!”
Well, you can only imagine how small and awful I felt. About one inch high! Of course I knew he was partly color blind, so I should have known he couldn’t see it! His “reality” was not the same as “my reality” because we looked at the same sink and saw different things.
Blind to emotion
After thinking about this story in more detail and more depth, I think that the psychopath is maybe not “color” blind, but they are “blind to emotions” that we can see. Because we can see those things so clearly, we try to explain to them what we think is obvious, and “right before your eyes.” However, just as my husband could look at the sink and only see the “clean white” sink, and I could see the pink globs turning to concrete “right before my eyes,” our misunderstanding was because of the “different reality” that each of us saw.
A psychopath, who is unable to comprehend the “emotions” that go with words like “love” and “caring,” might think. “We are having sex, sex feels good, therefore, I love her. But because sex feels good with others as well, I don’t know why she gets so upset when I have sex with someone else. ”
We would think, though, because our “vision” is different, “we are having sex and the sex is good because we love and care about each other. Because we love each other, we will treat each other well. Treating each other well means we will not purposely do things that hurt the other one.”
My irritation with my husband was because I could see the pink blobs plainly, and I assumed that he could see them as well, and thought he was refusing to wipe them out. In fact, he was making an effort to wipe out the sink, but because he could not perceive them, he had no idea when they were gone, and his only “reality” was that the sink looked clean to him.
Family and friends
I also think this same “reality is what you see” can be applied to our friends and family members who “don’t see” what we see in the psychopath. There is a common thread among victims that “my friends don’t understand what I have been through” and “my friends don’t believe me that he is evil.”
Our friends and family members who “don’t get it” don’t see the same “reality” that we see. They are unable to draw the same conclusions that we draw, and therefore it is difficult for them to believe the same things about the psychopath that we believe. We can see things about the psychopath that they can’t see, just as I could see the pink globs and my husband couldn’t. Our realities were not the same. We didn’t see the same thing, even though we looked at the same thing.
Sometimes though we can see clearly the toxicity of the psychopath, our friends may not. They are sometimes “color blind” to the ability of a psychopath to be the way they can be. They are unable to see, to perceive, what we so clearly see as truth. These people cannot validate our vision, and they didn’t even have a way to know that their vision is defective, like my husband did. He knew he was color blind and couldn’t see certain colors, and because he believed I was honest and had good color vision, he took my word for the fact that the pink goop was there. Unfortunately, most of our friends and family are not aware that their vision is “blind” in this sort of situation. Just as the person who is color blind doesn’t know what color looks like, the person who has never personally experienced the true vision of a psychopath, has difficulty seeing this vision, even when it is before their very face.
We aren’t crazy (though sometimes others think we are!) our vision is REAL and our vision is VALID, and so is theirs, as far as they are concerned. I know it frustrated me for people about whom I cared and thought cared about me, could not “see” what I so clearly saw where my egg donor or my psychopathic son were concerned. I now realize these people cannot see what I see, cannot accept what I have finally so painfully accepted. Realizing that these people are blind in this sphere makes it easier for me to accept that they can’t “see” and can’t “get it.” Just as I had to accept that my husband was doing the best he could to clean the pink goop off the sink, but his vision prohibited him seeing it, I have to accept that those people who have a “blind spot” where psychopaths are concerned are doing the best they can with the somewhat “limited” vision that they are capable of. I also realize that my own vision was somewhat “limited” before the “scales fell from my eyes” and I could truly see the psychopaths.
My vision is my reality. The vision of others is their reality. Maybe those things will never be the same, but it doesn’t mean my reality is not valid. It also doesn’t mean that they are purposely doubting me, it just means that their vision is not the same as mine.
Just like the mythical “vampire” doesn’t show up in a mirror, psychopaths, don’t always appear in their true form in the vision of those who behold them. Just like the soiled sink with its pink globs appeared perfectly clean to my husband, with his limited color vision, psychopaths appear “perfectly normal” to those who do not have the sphere of vision capable of “seeing” them for what they truly are.
midlifecrisis,
Thank you for being so supportive.
I am actually surprised that her posting did not upset me like her last one did. I almost saw it as a “gaslighting” maneuver. She or He WANTED to upset me. They failed. I guess I just came to accept that she is being victimized and that there is nothing I can do about it.
I told her the truth as I see it. I told her MY reality. I do not think it will make a difference for her, but I said what I had to.
Now I am No Contact. I blocked her from my site and I don’t plan to visit her page again.
If anything changes between her and I it will be because she chooses to reach out to me in an email. I’m not holding my breath on that.
I can’t continue to worry about things I cannot control. I am now concentrating my love and energy to the the things I CAN change.
I need to make life better for me and my boys. I will do it and I will do the BEST I can.
Thank you again
Toolate:
I have minimal to say about this, although what I do have to say is IM SO SORRY that you’re going through this…
WOW! Im speechless…
toolate/justintime: this is so painful for you, but you are swimming to the other shore, which is a mighty thing to do when every stroke is still painful. maybe this is what is called the hero’s journey?
i have never directed a word of anger to my spath. i thought about that yesterday. i did say that i thought she was a spath, etc. there was only one conversation – and i have been NC since. I am digressing – but your post to your daughter made me think of things left undone that need doing – and how we need sometimes to walk away and not do them, and how we need sometimes to do them and that doing them moves us forward, even if it is further into the sea of pain and grief.
i wish you comfort and peace,
one step
Dear Too late,
Your reply to her ravings was rational, calm and supportive, but I believe fell on “deaf ears” because she is, like any victim of a psychopath, totally unWILLING, but also UNable.
If this gave you some closure (and I think I am “hearing” that it did) then it was worth the effort for that if nothing else.
I DO know what it is like to have a child(ren) turn on you, to have them believe you are “evil” because you confront their or other’s behavior. I DO know what it feels like to ME, to have my entire family plot and rage against me, while I am trying to protect them from the rest of the psychopaths in the family. Your feelings may be somewhat different than mine were, but in both cases, I think our PAIN WAS/IS TOTAL.
The “trick” for me is that I am starting to see the “trees” now that I am no longer blinded by the “forest.” Right now, I am seeing something I don’t want to see, and that is that my “good son” C who is not a psychopath, but none-the-less harbors some sort of rage or anger against me, such that he was a WILLING VOLUNTEER to go along with the psychopath’s attacks on me, UNTIL HE GOT ATTACKED BY THEM, which they seem to always TURN on their “co-conspirator-victims,” eventually, throwing them to the wolves when things get dicey!
None of us (humans) have been perfect parents, and none of us have perfect kids, but I have seen wonderful people come out of some very very abusive homes and terrible people come out of some pretty “good” homes, and I’ve seen a mixture of both situations, where both horrible and wonderful people come out of the same home.
I wasn’t a perfect parent by any stretch of the imagination, and I bet you weren’t either, but Iialso know that I and I bet you did the best we could because we love our kids. That is all that anyone can do is to love your kids and do the best you can.
The rage that your daughter obviously feels toward you is I imagine fueled by your X which intensifies whatever “normal” feelings that kids that age have due to a parent being a parent and “not a Friend” to them. I have told my kids the same thing, word for word.
You are right in that he will eventually tire of her or her needs and wants will conflict with his and the “rodeo is on”—and to stay NC with her I do KNOW is tough, because even being NC with my psychopathic son in prison was tough.
Hang in there, Toolate, your last sentence is ALL you CAN do in this situation. You may or may not at some time be able to help your daughter, but that is up to HER to accept the opportunity for help that is available. (((hugs))))) and GOD BLESS YOU! Oxy
TooLate:
One of the hardest things for me to cope with was when the S kidnapped the kids…..
I sat paralyzed for weeks….in a recliner…and NOT moving….day went into night…night went into day….
I checked out!!!
Until my butt hurt! 🙂
No really…..I decided I couldn’t live in this highly contmplative state without ‘action’…..
So….I moved into ‘action’ phase…..
And what I decided was……there was nothing at that point, I could do…..so do for myslef…..I had to be well…(I was being treated for C)…so I threw myself into my own medical care….took off for MD anderson in Houston and plowed through……
I was told by friends….YOU EB have given them a foundation and NOW is the time you must trust what you have taught them…..they WILL come back to you.
It was like putting your last 20 bucks down on red on the roullete table…..I thought …..a gamble…..that I COULDN”T afford to lose….
But it made me look inside and reflect on how I raised them…..and I was very secure in the influence I was on them…..
I had no choice , in this situation, than to trust.
So….I trusted…..
I didn’t push or go rambo….like my instincts suggested…..Go mamma bear on the world….
At this point…..I learned the value…..of something I was very unfamiliar with….
PATIENCE!!!
It was wretched….painful, heartbreaking and horrid….out of everything I went through……THIS was the hardest lesson….BY FAR!!!
But…..the most valuable!!!
Everything changed at that point…..I now knew the value of patience……
Patience teaches so many other things…..self control, going against your instincts (not gut….instincts)…..
I couldn’t force myslef on my kids….they had been poisened….fed lies by folks of trust in thier lives….father and grandparents…..
malicious wrong hateful lies……I KNEW it…..but it was UP TO THEM…..to recognize it…..and when they ‘came to’……and rebelled against the allienation…….they were sent home…..flew into an airport 100+ miles away and I got a call….can you come pick us up……
There was an immense amount of damage done to them during these 3.5 months they were gone…..we are still picking up the peices….and may for years…..
BUT….THEY GOT IT! THEY SAW IT for all that it was.
Toolate….You must satisfy your heart…..I so understand this….and I understand this pain and conflict.
This is where we need to have the confidence in the tools we have given our children.
It takes time…..
I do believe…..it will all work out the way it should…..in whatever time it takes…..
I have been ‘shown’ this.
XXOO
EB
HI. I’m glad to be on this journey with such incredible HUMAN beings. Thanks for support, sharing and being there.
After much reading, I come up with the idea that there must not be dgrees of S/P ? Am I correct in understanding that you’re either wired that way or not?
I can easily see that the traits could be translate into skills that are rewardable in business, sport and espionage.
Its about that different way of seeing.
Its wreaked as much hell on my psyche as everyone else’s it sems like. It is so hard to understand because of the difference in the way I see. So hard to let go of what seemed so true and so good.
The early stages of NC are hell because of it even if I know it to be the right thing, the temptation to suck back into my vision is nearly insane.
I can’t say enough how inspired I am by the strength and wisdom of everyone else here.
There are hours when I feel like a horse who,when the barn is burning, is compelled by the urge to run back into the place it knew as safe. When in fact that is the very place where the animal will likely perish.
My “true love” scores on the S/P profiles no doubt. The lies he told and the online cheating within days of our marriage are a huge marker.
So why am I struggling to walk away because of the lingering doubt that I may be overlooking something which is true? Why is it so hard to find the anger that I am going to need to get through this?
I have much support for not turning back- there are a lot of people who are THERE to make sure I don’t. I have much gratefulness for it, but I don’t understand the internal conflict that spins me around a couple of times a day.
Does everyone go through this kind of conflicted feelings? What is useful in resolving it for my self?
My trust in everything and everyone is shattered. I feel so alone. I hate to describe to anyone that there are these lonely hours when I miss him so rawly the impact is physical even though I understand intellectually he was not real. I was. And I was taken in hard emotionally.
So now, homework proves a lot I didn’t know and no thanks to two private detectives who didn’t turn up the current parole violation at the time we were to be married.
Wherever we were he was always present and attentive, people always remarked on how happy we seemed to be as a couple and how nice it was to see two people as comfortably married as we.
When the whole time, he was up at night online and on his cell phone making dates. He told me stories which were incredible and impossible to check into fully because they involved so many countries around the world.
There are holes in the story that are just big enough to let things he said to me possibly be true but I have to make the bet that looks like, smells like probrably is and that there were lies, disrespect for the law and online cheating.
I know it won’t get better. I know what I have to do, but I am not at all sure how to get through it.
Help?
Dear Silvermoon,
From what I remember of your story, he sounds like my P-son, because that is exactly how he would have behave if he got out on parole. NO DOUBT in my mind at all.
There ARE “degrees” of them in the amount of VIOLENCE they do, whether it is serial killing or cheating on a spouse, but as far as conscience or not, I don’t think any of them have any conscience. Some are criminals, but NOT ALL, some are smart enough to stay just on the edge of what the law can arrest them for, others, throw caution to the winds and don’t give a rip about the law catching them. What makes that difference I don’t know. Most of them do not have FEAR of going to prison, mine actually is NOT afraid of any kind of punishment because he sees it as ALWAYS some other person’s fault, not his own.
He is in prison, not because he killed a young woman when he was 20, but because I turned him in to the police when he was 17 for robbing our friend’s business. Makes sense to HIM, of course to no one else. He has been in prison all but a few months of his adult life, and ALL of it is “my fault” according to him. HE has no problems. He actually sees himself as a SUCCESSFUL person though he is not even a “success” as a criminal if you count getting caught almost every time he did a criminal act as part of the score, but he doesn’t count that.
How can he think like that? I’m not sure HOW, but it is a fact.
Why did it take me so long to figure out my son is a monster? Because my thinking was skewed and I wanted to believe him, to think he had reformed, so he used that love I had for my son (himself) to manipulate me. Now, the scales have fallen from my eyes, and for so long it hurt because I didn’t LIKE WHAT I SAW, but in order to live I had to see and accept reality. You do too. Maybe he isn’t a physical threat to your life, but at the same time, until you work out this emotional mess, you are not happy and liviing a good life, so stay on that road toward processing all this. It will take time and work, but you are on the right path! (((hugs))))
Silvermoon:
You know how ya get through it………..
One baby step at a time…..through education and awareness and putting your puzzle peices together……recognizing ‘what’ happened and ‘how’ it went on…..
Familiarizing yourslef with YOU, learning about YOU….through conncecting with the pain and the journey.
We can’t ‘duck’ from it…..it doesn’;t go away….
Learn from the experiences and pain…..
and give it TIME!
You sound so clear in your post…..you seem to have much support….your so way ahead of the ‘game’…..
Give yourself credit and love yourself….
It DOES get better…..in time!
XXOO
EB
silvermoon –
you said
” It is so hard to understand because of the difference in the way I see. So hard to let go of what seemed so true and so good.”
i know, i know.
it’s a daily practice. a daily practice like walking or prayer or yoga. we have to look at what they did that was not true and good, and to understand to whatever degree we can on any given day, that they do not function as we do, do not act with empathy, compassion, or in our best interests, and are not bonded to us. that whatever they are and whatever they experience inside themselves and how they relate to the world, it is devastating for us.
Our feelings of love and compassion, care and commitment were real. Their illustration of those feelings were affectations. it is a big gulf to bridge, it makes NO SENSE to us, but it is the truth.
it takes time and understanding to build our intellectual, somatic and emotional knowledge of this gulf; the dissonance it causes within us and to reconsicile this dissonance.
I wish you the very best on this journey. dig deep and travel. that shiny safe place is you. he is a distorted reflection. i am sorry that this is true, sorry that he was not worthy or your love and commitment, your care and your dreams.
that you cared so deeply tells me that you are worthy of all that you gave to him.
best,
one step
One:
You are so very strong…..
You are a giving, loving and wise woman…you offer so much to so many…..
Please take care of yourself darlen!!!
XXOO
EB