Last week Dr. Liane Leedom wrote about the tragic case Dr. Amy Castillo, whose children were murdered by their psychopathic father after several judges issued rulings that failed to protect them. I hope this terrible and extreme case will be a wake-up call for family courts.
Lovefraud frequently receives e-mail from men and women involved in child custody disputes with sociopaths, who hopefully, are not murderers. Here is one of them:
I am involved in a custody case with a sociopath, however, my case is being fought in Europe where I recently relocated to (I am American, he is European). After being the sole caregiver of my children for five years, I had no choice but to leave them with their father and return to the States. When we separated he took their passports and left the country for a year. It was NOT possible to obtain new passports for children without BOTH parents’ signatures.
By the end of that year my financial situation was desperate and I had no choice. I came back to the States, got myself back on my feet and recently I started my own company as a Virtual Assistant, allowing me to work anywhere in the world. While in the States I came back to Europe every six to eight weeks to visit my children. Well one month ago, I relocated back to Europe to live and continue my fight for custody of my children.
The court case had already been ongoing since January and in typical sociopath style he has lied and forged documents. Even so, my ex was recently given sole custody (temporarily while custody is decided) and that I must pay him 900 euros (around $1,300 USD a month!). As if that could not be bad enough, he sends me on a regular basis (the most recent being today) faxes full of lies and accusations that he then turns around and uses as evidence in his court case!!! Furthermore, I do NOT have 900 euros a month to give him. I just relocated and started my own business and this is a real slap in the face with all of the financial damage he has done to me as well as my credit in the U.S.
I have fired my attorneys and hired the best Custody/Family attorney where I live. He has been in practice for 30 years and not lost a case! Also he is known to be a very strong and tough attorney. I wish I would have had him in the beginning. So with this I feel confidence.
The reason I am writing is because although I have a very positive outlook and feel that I am a strong person, as I know that most of you can agree, it is very difficult dealing with a sociopath. When I receive these horrible faxes my stomach just drops and it can make me feel very anxious for hours after. So now I have stopped reading them at all. I do not know what I am looking for by sending this email. I think I just need the support of knowing there are others out there going through the same things as me and that this is manageable and that I will make it through. I would greatly appreciate hearing what others have done in a situation like this. Thank you.
Like most parents fighting a custody battle with a sociopath, this woman faces a difficult times. Below are some general suggestions about child custody and sociopaths.
Get him or her to walk away
If your ex is a sociopath, at best, he or she will be a lousy parent. At worst, he or she will intentionally try to damage your children. Therefore, if at all possible, it may be best to cut the sociopath out of your children’s lives.
You may want to consider offering the sociopath an incentive to walk away. Tell the sociopath to give up parental rights, and he or she won’t have to pay any child support. You may feel that you need the child support payments, but chances are that you’ll never get the money, or it will always be a struggle to get it. The money isn’t worth having the predator in your family’s life. Figure out a way to support your children without it.
Sometimes this works—there are sociopaths who care more about money than kids. But many times it doesn’t, because the sociopath considers children to be possessions. Or, the sociopath just wants to win the battle with you, and destroy you in the process. In those cases, you’ll end up in court.
Tactics in custody battles
I am forever grateful that I never had children with my sociopathic ex-husband. I avoided the most tragic of circumstances involving these predators—a child custody battle. Therefore, the suggestions I make below come from my research and what Lovefraud readers have told me.
If you’re fighting a custody battle with a sociopath, here are some tactics to follow:
1. Document, document, document.
Keep a journal of everything that happens. Often, the craziness is so intense that you don’t want to remember what happens. Your journal will be important when you need to tell a cohesive story of what has been going on with the sociopath, especially if you need to tell it long after events have transpired. Save every scrap of paper, every e-mail, every fax, every receipt. Develop a way of organizing the information, whether chronological, or by topic. Keep copies in a safe place.
2. Have witnesses
It is best not to deal with the sociopath alone; every interaction then becomes he said/she said. Have a trusted friend or relative present during child exchanges or other interactions as much as you can. You may even want to consider tape recording and videotaping some of what goes on.
3. Get your own information
Do not allow the sociopathic parent to control information about your children. Make sure you get information directly from schools, doctors and others.
4. Hire an aggressive, competent attorney
Child custody cases with sociopaths are not normal cases. The sociopath will not play by the rules. Your attorney must understand this. The sociopath will lie in court, although his or her performance will appear heartfelt, like he or she is “just concerned with the welfare of the children.” The sociopath will make outrageous accusations. The sociopath is also likely to retain an attorney who is also sociopathic. Therefore, your attorney must be up for the challenge.
5. Do not allow lies to become part of the court record
Sociopaths lie. Sociopaths lie convincingly. You cannot allow unchallenged lies to become part of the court records. Once they are, they take on the aura of truth, and put you in a very bad position. Some lies, like accusations of child abuse, may haunt you forever.
6. Be cautious in stating that your ex is, in fact, a sociopath
Unfortunately, many judges really do not understand what this means to the welfare of a child. Like the general public, many judges equate “sociopath” with “serial killer,” and may consequently believe that you are overreacting. So it may not be in your best interest to prove that he or she is a sociopath. Focus on proving the behavior.
7. Stay calm in court
You must present a calm, professional image when you go to court, even as the sociopath lies. Do not allow the sociopath to make you emotional. The sociopath will accuse you of being unstable, and you will prove it by your behavior in court. Keep your emotions in check, at least in front of the judge.
8. Make sure court orders are explicit
Insist on detailed court orders. The order should not say, “parent has visitation every other weekend.” It should specify exactly which weekends, starting at what times, returning at what times, who is responsible for transporting children, who is responsible for bathing and feeding them—everything must be spelled out in detail. If there is any ambiguity, the sociopath will exploit it.
9. Make the sociopath abide by court orders
If the sociopath fails to honor the orders, do not cut him or her any slack. Record any violation. Call the police if necessary. Continue to document everything that happens, because you may need to go to court again. If you ever decide that you need to cut the sociopath out of the child’s life, you’ll need evidence to do it.
10. Take care of yourself
You will need all your resources to deal with the sociopath. Therefore, make healthy decisions in your own life. Eat right, avoid drugs and alcohol, get enough sleep, exercise and develop a support network. In order to care for your children, you must care for yourself.
Post your suggestions
I previously reviewed the book, Win Your Child Custody War, on the Lovefraud Blog. This book is full of information that may help you, from how to gather documentation to how to hire an attorney and private investigator.
If Lovefraud readers have any more suggestions that may be helpful to others involved in custody battles with sociopaths, please post it in comments below.
Believe it baby!!!
In addition to having balls…..and taking your balls to the walls…..I think you really have to KNOW YOUR SOCIO….inside and out, backwards and forwards in order to take one down.
You have to be able to anticipate what they will do next BEFORE they do it.
EVERYONE shows patterns of behavior over time, even socios.
There is a huge advantage in knowing someone so well that you are able to anticipate their next move.
You are also going to need a THICK SKIN.
Some people are sidetracked by a single malicious lie.
You just have to let that stuff slide off your back, and keep your eyes on the prize, whatever it is (and it should be something MAJOR like children, $$, real estate).
Finally, like we always say on this site, it really comes down to US.
You have to WANT TO WIN.
You have to believe that when push comes to shove, you will be the one left standing.
This is what I call “GUT-CHECK TIME”.
Because that’s what it comes down to with these varmints.
It’s either gonna be you or the sociopath.
Surivival of the fittest, so make sure you are the fittest.
And, just for the record, having a strong will to win does NOT make someone a sociopath.
Fighting one of these disordered personalities is not for pussies.
But, life in general is not for pussies, either.
Sometimes, you have to break a nail.
Rosa concludes with,
Sometimes you have to break a nail. 🙂
That tickled me. Funny.
Mom:
Alright…..first….realize…..LIFE AIN”T FAIR!
So dont expect fair!
Now….ask yourself…..are your children in harms way with parents OR Ex?
If not…..your in a good position.
YOU must be workable.
I understand the situation with your parents…..I had the same. My parents participated in ‘hiding’ my kids when my ex spath kidnapped them.
They were completely under his spell.
You must decide how to go about your ‘plight’.
I would certainly start looking for and consulting with an attorney who ‘gets it’. One who COMPLETELY understands contentious child custody issues. Be totally honest and get feedback from several attorny’s
You’ve been given the headsup……by ex. Start doing your homework.
One key is to be ahead of the ‘game’.
and be prepared.
You may not ever have to start ‘shooting’, but you’ve got your guns loaded.
Regardless of your depression last year or not….you’ve been a productive member of society, got your nursing degree and been raising your twins.
Courts don’t hold custody of parents if you show improvement in life…..and you’ve accomplished this.
DOCUMENT THESE accomplishments.
As one judge stated to me…..I am NOT in the business of breaking up families.
Start preparing your file NOW.
In regards to your parents……DON”T KEEP YOUR KIDS FROM THEM……they will resent you!!!! They are feeling the tension now……it’s UP TO YOU TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT!!!!
Bite the bullet…..and have em over for dinner. Start off small and sublte……
(assuming your kids are in no danger).
Your gonna need a relationship with your parents to smooth things over.
You need to think like a spath…..and counter control them with your behaviors and ‘moves’.
Ask if you can bring twins over for a picnic with gma and gdad…….and brother.
I know you ‘hate’ them……but your gonna ‘need’ them…….
Invite them to family night at the school…..you know….a game or something…..it’s called SCHMOOZE!!!!
If you can’t fight em……join em…..at least topically.
Figure out where their minds are and work their minds. You must be very smart about this. NOT EMOTIONAL….not dramatic…..but SMART!
Find a common ground to come to with them…..
If they think your immature, show them you’ve grown up.
If they think your a bad parent….show them your not.
ACTIONS NOT WORDS.
Smooze them…..tell them you appreciate all they do with your son.
Take it sloooow and steady…….and expect setbacks…..but NEVER let them see you sweat……and DON”T EVER TALK ABOUT EX WITH THEM……listen….don’t talk.
You need to play on their ‘feelings’ for their daughter…….My mother was so happey each time I took a deep breath and called……I called for info…..she was just happy to hear from me….it gave her the peice of mind…she was ‘okay’. Whatever she wanted to believe…..I told her…..
FAKE IT TILL YOU MAKE IT!
You know your situation….I do not.
It’s natural to be scared….you should be….
BUT….the whole world ISN”T Against you……get out of victim mode and be the survivor. Look at what you’ve overcome.
You will need strength for any child custody battle. Strength, perseverence and tenacity.
I am not so sure i’d strike first with the ex. You’ve got custody……let him do the work if he wants it otherwise. He bears the burdon of proof to change things……and it will be an uphill battle for him.
I would stand on whatever interpretation your current custody deal is and stick with it…..
Don’t be so available.
I suspect it may have been convenient for you to give him more time…….
Work it out other ways!
Don’t do it outwardly vindictive. Don’t cut off all daddy time…..but slowely start pulling back a bit…..
(if kids are involved, they naturally won’t have much daddy time) get it?
If dad is a good dad……let kids decide. YOU Must be honest with yourself and KNOW if your kids are in danger with dad.
If so……there ain’t a mountain on earth that would keep my spath near.
Portray to the world your stability and willingness at being a great mother.
Volunteer in the classrooms, coach soccer, be the brownie leader……BE INVOLVED, not too busy for your kids.
Infuse your kids in activities no court would rip them from.
Make sure others are present to ‘witness’ your good parenting and involvement.
Don’t talk about it…….don’t talk about their father at all to others…..just DO it.
Have your twins involved in gymnastics, youth sports, dance, book club, play group…….very involved.
You ask…..how do you go up against a pastor and your own parents……..YOU JUST DO! YOU FIND A WAY!!!
Find their weaknessess and exploit them……backspath them and counter control them…….
COVERTYLY, stealthly, quietly…….and let them hang themselves.
I have to tell you….reading your posts……YOU”VE GOT TO STOP BEING A VICTIM!!!!!!
Just because he sends emails out doesn’t mean he will pursue, OR that the courts will take them!
It’s a fear of yours…….yes……but change your thinking to…..
THERE AIN”T A PERSON ON EARTH WHO”S GONNA INTERUPT MY PARENTING THE TWINS!!!! PERIOD!
I will tell you…..if he’s a good father, and your parents are good grandparents……DO NOT keep your kids from either.
YOU WILL BE THE LOSER IN THE END!!!!
Rosa…..Everything you write above is SPOT on.
Get the nail file out ladies…..cuz I can assure you….your gonna be breaking a few nails!!!!!
Remember also…..just because you may not have been in a spaths life for awhile…..doesn’t mean they’ve changed ANY of their behaviors….you can bet the house….they havn’t!
Study them!!!!
And yes….not everyone with bad behaviors is a sociopath.
The EB inspiration song~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvWj18LeU1g
Love ya EB
Mom
Just a little from me. Like EB says, talk to a lawyer that “gets it” NOW. Make some strategic plans NOW. Don’t initiate anything yourself, just follow the scout rule and be prepared.
Maybe instead of trying to find dirt on him, start assembling proof of your parenting assets. Example – if you don’t already, become involved in your girls school, sports and interests – get yourself seen as an active, capable Mom. A teacher is going to have great things to say about her classroom volunteer, get the drift?
Just wondering – could your parents be siding with your X because they fear that the custody they have on your son is somehow in jeopardy? Maybe X started a rumor suggesting something like that. If they are indeed doing a good job with your older son, make sure they know you are grateful.
Love – Milo
MILO, You are a GENIUS!!!!!!
Mom, everything EB and Milo says is right on. Get that volunteer hat out. Go to church every time the door is open, baby sit in the nursery, get your kids into scouts, little league or ANYTHING they are involved with or interested in 5-6 days a week if need be. Be so NICE to everyone that it would make you want to puke! LOL
Keep your self calm, BREATHE BREATHE BREATHE and don’t worry about tomorrow—-one day at a time.
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Being depressed and even taking medication and even going to a hospital for depression does not make you either crazy or a bad parent. Get medical documentation that you are “sane” —I did this and it helped. ((((Hugs)))))
Well…….in oxy’s case…..they may have been wrong!
Mom:
We are all just peeps on keyboards…..but we all are real and we want to offer of ourselves to others…..because we too have been at your keyboard not so long ago, needing support…..and some still there.
If they live cross country….great…..start calling. Especially if spath just got his grips on em.
NEITHER know your current life……just place the call, however you can pull it off…..RECORD IT with a digi recorder…..on speakerphone…..and listen to the calls back and critic yourself, and see how you can do better…..force a smile in your tone and just call for info on Jr. slip in a how ya been mom/dad…..how’s your new house…yadayada…..
Keep it aboiut Jr mostly, but slip in stuff about them.
If they ask…..talk about how great your doing….twins are thriving, involved in gymnastics and they went to camp with the brownie groups….we had a ball. Stuff like that….’normal’ stuff mom may expect to hear…..maybe even say…..oh, their right here….wanna say hi…..and pass the phone to twins to say a quick hi to gramma and encourage them to tell gramma about xx or yy like winning the softball game on saturday, or catching the frog at the pond last night…….
Girls won’t talk too long with you there, no need for worry.
You control how the conversation goes and where.
Just call to check in on sons grades, or whatever seems ‘natural’.
The longer you go without contact with parents…..the easier it is for ex to grasp hold. He sounds like he’s only exploiting a fracture….my spath did the same thing!
He created the fracture and tried to break it solid. He did…..but I never played along.
In the end…..when he announced in court that HER PARENTS will be the ‘go between’ with the kids……I had a written notice from my parents that they were NOT interested in being involved. I exploited him right back!
I also exploited my parents…..knowing they wanted nothing to do with the ‘riff raff’ of our divorce……so I announced to them that spaths attorney says your gonna be the go between………(spath hadn’t told them…..he just assumed they’d go along with it)….I knew they wouldn’t……so I told them to write down their feelings in an email to me…..they did……(it was like washing their hands).
My attorney presented this in court….and spath looked like a dufus…..with all his announcements of I am closer to HER parents and they support me 100%. Well……heres the documentattion….of that statement! HA!
This is how I suggest you ‘play’ your parents.
Do it for you…….NOT THEM…..but let them think whatever they willl…..as long as it’s positive.
I’m not suggesting you become buddy buddy, or forget the past and become vulnerable……but fake it till you make it.
You gotta do whatcha gotta do.
Toxic is toxic…..you gotta figure out the rules they play by, and study them……their weaknesses and use em for your benefit. It’s just like a spath does to you…….it’s called counter control!
Think before you act…..at all times!!!