Last week Dr. Liane Leedom wrote about the tragic case Dr. Amy Castillo, whose children were murdered by their psychopathic father after several judges issued rulings that failed to protect them. I hope this terrible and extreme case will be a wake-up call for family courts.
Lovefraud frequently receives e-mail from men and women involved in child custody disputes with sociopaths, who hopefully, are not murderers. Here is one of them:
I am involved in a custody case with a sociopath, however, my case is being fought in Europe where I recently relocated to (I am American, he is European). After being the sole caregiver of my children for five years, I had no choice but to leave them with their father and return to the States. When we separated he took their passports and left the country for a year. It was NOT possible to obtain new passports for children without BOTH parents’ signatures.
By the end of that year my financial situation was desperate and I had no choice. I came back to the States, got myself back on my feet and recently I started my own company as a Virtual Assistant, allowing me to work anywhere in the world. While in the States I came back to Europe every six to eight weeks to visit my children. Well one month ago, I relocated back to Europe to live and continue my fight for custody of my children.
The court case had already been ongoing since January and in typical sociopath style he has lied and forged documents. Even so, my ex was recently given sole custody (temporarily while custody is decided) and that I must pay him 900 euros (around $1,300 USD a month!). As if that could not be bad enough, he sends me on a regular basis (the most recent being today) faxes full of lies and accusations that he then turns around and uses as evidence in his court case!!! Furthermore, I do NOT have 900 euros a month to give him. I just relocated and started my own business and this is a real slap in the face with all of the financial damage he has done to me as well as my credit in the U.S.
I have fired my attorneys and hired the best Custody/Family attorney where I live. He has been in practice for 30 years and not lost a case! Also he is known to be a very strong and tough attorney. I wish I would have had him in the beginning. So with this I feel confidence.
The reason I am writing is because although I have a very positive outlook and feel that I am a strong person, as I know that most of you can agree, it is very difficult dealing with a sociopath. When I receive these horrible faxes my stomach just drops and it can make me feel very anxious for hours after. So now I have stopped reading them at all. I do not know what I am looking for by sending this email. I think I just need the support of knowing there are others out there going through the same things as me and that this is manageable and that I will make it through. I would greatly appreciate hearing what others have done in a situation like this. Thank you.
Like most parents fighting a custody battle with a sociopath, this woman faces a difficult times. Below are some general suggestions about child custody and sociopaths.
Get him or her to walk away
If your ex is a sociopath, at best, he or she will be a lousy parent. At worst, he or she will intentionally try to damage your children. Therefore, if at all possible, it may be best to cut the sociopath out of your children’s lives.
You may want to consider offering the sociopath an incentive to walk away. Tell the sociopath to give up parental rights, and he or she won’t have to pay any child support. You may feel that you need the child support payments, but chances are that you’ll never get the money, or it will always be a struggle to get it. The money isn’t worth having the predator in your family’s life. Figure out a way to support your children without it.
Sometimes this works—there are sociopaths who care more about money than kids. But many times it doesn’t, because the sociopath considers children to be possessions. Or, the sociopath just wants to win the battle with you, and destroy you in the process. In those cases, you’ll end up in court.
Tactics in custody battles
I am forever grateful that I never had children with my sociopathic ex-husband. I avoided the most tragic of circumstances involving these predators—a child custody battle. Therefore, the suggestions I make below come from my research and what Lovefraud readers have told me.
If you’re fighting a custody battle with a sociopath, here are some tactics to follow:
1. Document, document, document.
Keep a journal of everything that happens. Often, the craziness is so intense that you don’t want to remember what happens. Your journal will be important when you need to tell a cohesive story of what has been going on with the sociopath, especially if you need to tell it long after events have transpired. Save every scrap of paper, every e-mail, every fax, every receipt. Develop a way of organizing the information, whether chronological, or by topic. Keep copies in a safe place.
2. Have witnesses
It is best not to deal with the sociopath alone; every interaction then becomes he said/she said. Have a trusted friend or relative present during child exchanges or other interactions as much as you can. You may even want to consider tape recording and videotaping some of what goes on.
3. Get your own information
Do not allow the sociopathic parent to control information about your children. Make sure you get information directly from schools, doctors and others.
4. Hire an aggressive, competent attorney
Child custody cases with sociopaths are not normal cases. The sociopath will not play by the rules. Your attorney must understand this. The sociopath will lie in court, although his or her performance will appear heartfelt, like he or she is “just concerned with the welfare of the children.” The sociopath will make outrageous accusations. The sociopath is also likely to retain an attorney who is also sociopathic. Therefore, your attorney must be up for the challenge.
5. Do not allow lies to become part of the court record
Sociopaths lie. Sociopaths lie convincingly. You cannot allow unchallenged lies to become part of the court records. Once they are, they take on the aura of truth, and put you in a very bad position. Some lies, like accusations of child abuse, may haunt you forever.
6. Be cautious in stating that your ex is, in fact, a sociopath
Unfortunately, many judges really do not understand what this means to the welfare of a child. Like the general public, many judges equate “sociopath” with “serial killer,” and may consequently believe that you are overreacting. So it may not be in your best interest to prove that he or she is a sociopath. Focus on proving the behavior.
7. Stay calm in court
You must present a calm, professional image when you go to court, even as the sociopath lies. Do not allow the sociopath to make you emotional. The sociopath will accuse you of being unstable, and you will prove it by your behavior in court. Keep your emotions in check, at least in front of the judge.
8. Make sure court orders are explicit
Insist on detailed court orders. The order should not say, “parent has visitation every other weekend.” It should specify exactly which weekends, starting at what times, returning at what times, who is responsible for transporting children, who is responsible for bathing and feeding them—everything must be spelled out in detail. If there is any ambiguity, the sociopath will exploit it.
9. Make the sociopath abide by court orders
If the sociopath fails to honor the orders, do not cut him or her any slack. Record any violation. Call the police if necessary. Continue to document everything that happens, because you may need to go to court again. If you ever decide that you need to cut the sociopath out of the child’s life, you’ll need evidence to do it.
10. Take care of yourself
You will need all your resources to deal with the sociopath. Therefore, make healthy decisions in your own life. Eat right, avoid drugs and alcohol, get enough sleep, exercise and develop a support network. In order to care for your children, you must care for yourself.
Post your suggestions
I previously reviewed the book, Win Your Child Custody War, on the Lovefraud Blog. This book is full of information that may help you, from how to gather documentation to how to hire an attorney and private investigator.
If Lovefraud readers have any more suggestions that may be helpful to others involved in custody battles with sociopaths, please post it in comments below.
OxDrover,
I wish I knew then what I know now about these people….Unfortunately when all of this was going on I was also in the middle of being robbed by the other one! Overwhelmed….I am only starting to see the forest for the trees now! My daughter is 19 years old….a couple of years ago she told me she was doing drugs….but that after she almost died she stopped! She does not want my advice…..I know that he has told her lies about who I am….I’m not going to get into those lies…..but he backs it up with how my life turned out….loosing everything….In the past he told her as a child that she should have been born to his new wife….that it was a mistake to be with me…..The things I would tell you would floor you….a quick flash back of my life with him….LOVE….Pregnancy….kicked in the stomach at 5 months pregnant…hammer thrown at me….POlICE…..Beat up and thrown out on Christmas Eve….no human being deserves this treatment! I will never forget the day I went to pick up a few of my things…..we started fighting again….he didn’t want to give me the babys crib….all I could take were the few nick-nacks I had that my mother and aunts had given to me….and as I was leaving he took the box from me and turned it over so everything broke….I was 28 years old then and I cried so painfully….I had never known someone to be so cruel…..he pulled my hair back and spit in my face and said that is what I think of you…and I will always make our daughter think I care about you…but I don’t….and I will have her one day.
I didn’t know what I was in for….but he will not have her forever! I believe even though my daughter went through all of this that I instilled in her the tools that she needs to see the truth! She already sees some things that she questions…..I have to get stronger to show her that I am not what he tells her I am! I haven’t spoken to him for years…..two times I tried to mend our bad relationship….for my daughter and than I soon saw that was a mistake…so really I havent had a conversation with the man since she was 2 years old…..those two times don’t count because the conversation was one sided! I just will not have a conversation with a bad person anymore!
Sometimes I think my daughter wanted to me the mediator…the mendor…but she just didn’t know it was not possible…..The first time I went to therapy….my therapist told me after hearing situation after situation….that he doesn’t usually say this to clients…that he was crossing a boundary…but that he thought My daughter and I would be better off without her father! Unfortunately I had to send her to him every other weekend and she came back a wreck….every time….. I learned that he and his now wife had studied hypnosis with Tony Robbins…. I brought all of this stuff up in court….I learned everything I could about Tony Robbins…..it was mind boggling to say the least!
And when I moved away I fell apart for a little while! So now he uses that as who I am to my daughter….She came one time back to Ocean City to stay with me with a girlfriend! It was her high school graduation…I threw a big family party….and she stayed a week and the first day she came in and so coldly….ransacked my apartment….looking in every closet at everything before she even sat down to talk to me….I still don’t know what that was all about….my daughter is not the same anymore….but I still love her…..
I had two seperate psychic readings done and both did not know I had a daughter and they said she will be back in her mid to late 20’s. It is all I have to hang on to! She will not let me be her parent and now she doesn’t even talk to me!
I have given her to God….and I know that my father in heaven is looking after her for me….that is all I can do…..He knows everything….and to say someting possitive about the situation….
My daughter has been working since she is 14 years old…she has paid her own way to Europe a few times with her High School Choir and now her college….she is a musician singer/songwriter….and she sang at the Montraux Jazz Festival…she is in a very good school for music….The only worry I have is that he prommised to pay her tuition and than made her take our student loans….she will end up with $60,000-$80,000 to pay back….that will take 10 years or more! She has alot going for her….and she is a good person too….I don’t see her turning into her father…..she is her own person! And I don’t believe she is doing drugs anymore. I know she misses me….the few times we did meet she lit up when she saw me and I am sure I did too! He can never take that away!
The problem I have with telling my story is that it all sounds “crazy” because it is! But I want to say that it didn’t have to be that way…we were fighting over custody of a small child…for years….and the damage is done….I just couldn’t let him get her as a young child…and I really though she would come back home….but there is no home for her with me anymore….It’s gone….I have to build a life back for myself now and maybe there will be a relationship for us in the future!
I faught because he wasn’t a good parent in my eyes…and that is why I don’t talk to him either!
I met a great man once and I let him go….because I was not sure I was going to be good for him….He had it all going on for him….and then once he got inside the gym and we worked out together he had that going on to! He had kindness, love, fun,intelligence, handsome and wealth…..and we never argued…never….and after one year he wanted to meet my daughter…and i had a horrible dream that my daughter fell down some stairs and died! She was only 2 at the time….He brought us to his upstate home and I had never been there before and there is where I saw the stairs….I hawk-eyed her that whole weekend….and looking back on it….I left him because of my fear……and I dreamed about him the year before I met him….
He is a very important person in this world….that is how successful he is…and I know that we were meant to be together for that year….and that I had to leave because the next 20 years of my life would not have been fair to him…..
I met a few other nice guys….but not my husband…it just wasn’t meant to be!
Dear TrishNJ,
My dear, ALL of us have stories that are INSANE–UNBELIEVABLE– Yet they are TRUE. YOu are not alone in that, and you can tell your story here and know that you will be believed, because for most of us our stories are JUST as unbelieveable and insane! When I went to a new therapist he thought I was a paranoid delusional nut case, and I had to take in documents from the court and a witness to convince him my INSANE STORY was true. I don’t blame the therapist either, and actually laughed at him wanting more than my word as proof! I would too if a patient came to me which such a story as mine!!! So you are NOT ALONE here, Trish.
The THINGS you have lost; the money, the possessions, in the end, are not the most important losses, though sometimes we tend to focus on the losses we can SEE or measure or put a dollar value on.
Your psychopathic ex reminds me of my own biological father and how he treated his wife that was the mother of his other three children. He hit her so hard on the back of the head that he blacked both of her eyes, she fled the US for her family home in Mexico to save her own life, leaving her children behind. She had NO CHOICE to save her own life.
I can only imagine how painful it was to leave her children in the clutches of the horrible man my biiological P father was. Two of those children did well in spite of him, and one is just like him.
I hope and pray that your daughter and you may be reconciled, and that she can see how much you truly love her. Giving her over to God is the best thing you can do for yourself, and your own peace of mind. She is an adult now, and for better or worse, she is responsible for herself. Even if she has college debt, she can take responsibility for it if he doesn’t do what he promised–she’s a big girl now, but all you can do is to love her, and right now, the BEST way you can love your daughter is to HEAL YOURSELF.
I know that money is important, and things for your life are important,, but I am also learning through this that MONEY AND THINGS ARE NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART, it is what is INSIDE US. The Bible says that a crust of bread eaten in PEACE on a house top is better than a FEAST eaten in unhappiness, and that is so true.
My P-father thought that money and fame (he got both) would make him happy, it never did. Look at all the “rich and famous” people that you can read about in the paper each day or see on the news and how unhappy so many of them are, how into drugs, multiple affairs, etc. and how miserable a life they live in their “gold plated” lives that are so EMPTY of anything of substance.
Our media and our culture tells us that if we are “successful” in terms of money, status, etc. that we will be happy, but it is a falsehood, just like the psychopath’s falsehoods, it is an illusion. Our happiness, our contentment comes only ONLY from within. If we have a roof over our head so that we are not cold or hungry, that is all we NEED–the other things might be “nice” but they will never give us HAPPINESS or contentment.
My mother (P-by-proxy) sits with her money in her beautiful home ALONE…she has no daughter now, and one grandson is in prison forever (I hope), the other one no longer trusts her (my son C) and I am NC with her—what good did her money do her? She tried to use it to BUY “love” from the Psychopaths, to buy “respect” and fawning—and now she has NOTHING because she rejected the true caring that was available for the FALSE addoration of the Ps who were after her money. How pitiful she is now, because she put her trust in her money being able to get her what she wanted—holding it out like a carrot to the Ps and they grabbed for the money, but despised her. I tried to give her love and healthy concern (but not enabling) but she rejected that for the fawning lies of the Ps, now she has nothing.
Believe me Trish, your P is an EMPTY shell inside. He knows that some how you have something he can’t have, he’s not even sure what it is, but he knows that other people have SOMETHING he can never hope to have and he tries to smash those people out of his anger, rage and greed.
You may never have as much “stuff” or as much money as he or the other Ps, but that is not what makes life wonderful. What is wonderful about life comes from inside ourselves. As long as we focus on the external things, give them more value than they really have, as just things to make our external lives more “comfortable,” then we will never be able to focus on the INTERNAL RICHES that we all have available if we will just look inward and see those ABUNDANT RICHES.
The Bible tells us to “lay up treasures in heaven” rather than here on earth–the treasures we lay up inside ourselves will never rust, corrode, or be stolen, they are OURs forever. God bless you in your healing journey (((hugs)))) and prayers.
s
Dear OxDrover,
Thank you again for your wonderful insight…..I just got back from a wonderful healing massage….when we started the session she said she wanted to do some visualization with me….from head to toe we visualized my body as a vase and as it filled up with this violet, indigo gel….the murky stuff was forced to leave….and to leave it all for good! All the bad relationships…all the pain and suffering…gone….the vase filled up to my neck but for some reason I couldn’t fill it fully….maybe I’ll put some beautiful flowers into it and as you know that forces the liquid to the top…I know I am suffering….but I know the transformation is at hand…..and I have the ability to learn and change my life from all of this…and you are right….it’s just stuff….and stuff doesn’t make life wonderful…..and you certainly cannot take any of it with you when you die….and I am blessed…that I know….I am healing now from this horrific situation….but it is nothing more than that for me….and I feel even more blessed for having gone through that situation as I have become a stronger woman because of it….I am no longer a timid, gullible, little girl….or a victim….I am a stong, intelligent woman and who knows where that will take me…only God….one thing I do know is that I can see the forest for the trees now! Thank you for all your transformational insight…..((Hugs))
TrishNJ. Woweee. Stick with it girl – its all part of the transformation from the dark to the light!!! My love, respect and support to you.
One thing I learnt is that because women have the ability to give birth, they have the ability to transform. If you get into a situation, you can get out of a situation. It may be painful, but you will grow as a result of it, you will re-invent yourself.
I had my first radiotheraphy treatment today and it was fine. The thought was worse than the experience. One treatment down, 17 to go!!
TrishNJ. Your contribution has made my day. I feel as elated as you do. Thank you.
Beverly,
Good luck with your treatments. My housemate from Hawaii, who is a dear dear friend has gotten through Breast cancer twice. When I was trying to decide if I should make the move to Hawaii, she said, “You never know when the big yellow school bus is going to come around the corner and run you over.”
We all should remember that the Bad Man, whomever he was, is just a chapter in life and if we are still here… there are other chapters to be written.
I am working on other chpaters now… Bad Man may be a pivotal character in my life but he is not the star of this show. I am. He’s gone now and I am sure he doesn’t even think of me anymore. And you know what, I think more about the ladies at LF than I do about him.
So Beverly, this is your chapter about kicking Cancer’s ass. You have already been through Hell, right? I bet that helps you to know you are tough and you can get through anything.
I wish you all the best and I am dedicating my sail to you this evening… maybe I can take some pictures. I don’t know how to get them off my phone but I will try!
Aloha…
Many thanks AloaT. xxx
If there is copyright, we all know who Bad Man refers to. But as you say, he is not the star of your show anymore – you are! xxxx
Thank you, I love boats as an analogy of sailing on ‘life’s ocean’. But my big boat is a bit busted and worn out and I am trading it in for another!!! xxx