Last week Dr. Liane Leedom wrote about the tragic case Dr. Amy Castillo, whose children were murdered by their psychopathic father after several judges issued rulings that failed to protect them. I hope this terrible and extreme case will be a wake-up call for family courts.
Lovefraud frequently receives e-mail from men and women involved in child custody disputes with sociopaths, who hopefully, are not murderers. Here is one of them:
I am involved in a custody case with a sociopath, however, my case is being fought in Europe where I recently relocated to (I am American, he is European). After being the sole caregiver of my children for five years, I had no choice but to leave them with their father and return to the States. When we separated he took their passports and left the country for a year. It was NOT possible to obtain new passports for children without BOTH parents’ signatures.
By the end of that year my financial situation was desperate and I had no choice. I came back to the States, got myself back on my feet and recently I started my own company as a Virtual Assistant, allowing me to work anywhere in the world. While in the States I came back to Europe every six to eight weeks to visit my children. Well one month ago, I relocated back to Europe to live and continue my fight for custody of my children.
The court case had already been ongoing since January and in typical sociopath style he has lied and forged documents. Even so, my ex was recently given sole custody (temporarily while custody is decided) and that I must pay him 900 euros (around $1,300 USD a month!). As if that could not be bad enough, he sends me on a regular basis (the most recent being today) faxes full of lies and accusations that he then turns around and uses as evidence in his court case!!! Furthermore, I do NOT have 900 euros a month to give him. I just relocated and started my own business and this is a real slap in the face with all of the financial damage he has done to me as well as my credit in the U.S.
I have fired my attorneys and hired the best Custody/Family attorney where I live. He has been in practice for 30 years and not lost a case! Also he is known to be a very strong and tough attorney. I wish I would have had him in the beginning. So with this I feel confidence.
The reason I am writing is because although I have a very positive outlook and feel that I am a strong person, as I know that most of you can agree, it is very difficult dealing with a sociopath. When I receive these horrible faxes my stomach just drops and it can make me feel very anxious for hours after. So now I have stopped reading them at all. I do not know what I am looking for by sending this email. I think I just need the support of knowing there are others out there going through the same things as me and that this is manageable and that I will make it through. I would greatly appreciate hearing what others have done in a situation like this. Thank you.
Like most parents fighting a custody battle with a sociopath, this woman faces a difficult times. Below are some general suggestions about child custody and sociopaths.
Get him or her to walk away
If your ex is a sociopath, at best, he or she will be a lousy parent. At worst, he or she will intentionally try to damage your children. Therefore, if at all possible, it may be best to cut the sociopath out of your children’s lives.
You may want to consider offering the sociopath an incentive to walk away. Tell the sociopath to give up parental rights, and he or she won’t have to pay any child support. You may feel that you need the child support payments, but chances are that you’ll never get the money, or it will always be a struggle to get it. The money isn’t worth having the predator in your family’s life. Figure out a way to support your children without it.
Sometimes this works—there are sociopaths who care more about money than kids. But many times it doesn’t, because the sociopath considers children to be possessions. Or, the sociopath just wants to win the battle with you, and destroy you in the process. In those cases, you’ll end up in court.
Tactics in custody battles
I am forever grateful that I never had children with my sociopathic ex-husband. I avoided the most tragic of circumstances involving these predators—a child custody battle. Therefore, the suggestions I make below come from my research and what Lovefraud readers have told me.
If you’re fighting a custody battle with a sociopath, here are some tactics to follow:
1. Document, document, document.
Keep a journal of everything that happens. Often, the craziness is so intense that you don’t want to remember what happens. Your journal will be important when you need to tell a cohesive story of what has been going on with the sociopath, especially if you need to tell it long after events have transpired. Save every scrap of paper, every e-mail, every fax, every receipt. Develop a way of organizing the information, whether chronological, or by topic. Keep copies in a safe place.
2. Have witnesses
It is best not to deal with the sociopath alone; every interaction then becomes he said/she said. Have a trusted friend or relative present during child exchanges or other interactions as much as you can. You may even want to consider tape recording and videotaping some of what goes on.
3. Get your own information
Do not allow the sociopathic parent to control information about your children. Make sure you get information directly from schools, doctors and others.
4. Hire an aggressive, competent attorney
Child custody cases with sociopaths are not normal cases. The sociopath will not play by the rules. Your attorney must understand this. The sociopath will lie in court, although his or her performance will appear heartfelt, like he or she is “just concerned with the welfare of the children.” The sociopath will make outrageous accusations. The sociopath is also likely to retain an attorney who is also sociopathic. Therefore, your attorney must be up for the challenge.
5. Do not allow lies to become part of the court record
Sociopaths lie. Sociopaths lie convincingly. You cannot allow unchallenged lies to become part of the court records. Once they are, they take on the aura of truth, and put you in a very bad position. Some lies, like accusations of child abuse, may haunt you forever.
6. Be cautious in stating that your ex is, in fact, a sociopath
Unfortunately, many judges really do not understand what this means to the welfare of a child. Like the general public, many judges equate “sociopath” with “serial killer,” and may consequently believe that you are overreacting. So it may not be in your best interest to prove that he or she is a sociopath. Focus on proving the behavior.
7. Stay calm in court
You must present a calm, professional image when you go to court, even as the sociopath lies. Do not allow the sociopath to make you emotional. The sociopath will accuse you of being unstable, and you will prove it by your behavior in court. Keep your emotions in check, at least in front of the judge.
8. Make sure court orders are explicit
Insist on detailed court orders. The order should not say, “parent has visitation every other weekend.” It should specify exactly which weekends, starting at what times, returning at what times, who is responsible for transporting children, who is responsible for bathing and feeding them—everything must be spelled out in detail. If there is any ambiguity, the sociopath will exploit it.
9. Make the sociopath abide by court orders
If the sociopath fails to honor the orders, do not cut him or her any slack. Record any violation. Call the police if necessary. Continue to document everything that happens, because you may need to go to court again. If you ever decide that you need to cut the sociopath out of the child’s life, you’ll need evidence to do it.
10. Take care of yourself
You will need all your resources to deal with the sociopath. Therefore, make healthy decisions in your own life. Eat right, avoid drugs and alcohol, get enough sleep, exercise and develop a support network. In order to care for your children, you must care for yourself.
Post your suggestions
I previously reviewed the book, Win Your Child Custody War, on the Lovefraud Blog. This book is full of information that may help you, from how to gather documentation to how to hire an attorney and private investigator.
If Lovefraud readers have any more suggestions that may be helpful to others involved in custody battles with sociopaths, please post it in comments below.
Hope:
You seem to be putting so much emphasis on a therapist?
WHY?
What are you expecting from therapy?
Please ask yourself this question…..
There is ONLY one way to ‘fix’ this for you AND your kids…..
And thus far…..your avoiding it with all efforts.
There is ‘sticky’ stuff on the floor…..your not cleaning it up….your walking around it.
In order for the sticky to go away….YOU MUST GET DOWN ON YOUR HANDS AND KNEES AND MOP IT UP YOURSELF!
A therapist won’t do this…..He won’t do this….your kids can’t do this.
YOU MUST.
The longer you stay…..the longer and deeper your gonna get railroaded.
It seems your allowing him to portray you as ‘unstable’ and all your doing is ‘defending’ yourself.
Girl…your in a NO WIN situation! The longer you stick around in your fantasy, the more harm is gonna go down.
Look at how ‘progressed’ your daughter has become just since you started visiting LF.
One day…..SHE WILL follow through.
She see’s it for what it is…..and she ain’t gonna play the game with you and daddy-0.
Answer to yourself….HONESTLY…..(not to me….but to yourself!)
What outcome are you hoping for…..
AND
Is this outcome possible….given all facts.
HI Ya’ll,
Before I read your posts I just want to say I have been literally sick to my stomach reading the news report about three children shot dead in Houston by their father. He was upset over the upcoming court date which he would likely lose his visitation rights. The father said “everyone was lying” about him having a violent temper.
BTW, the father survived.
Can we talk? Let’s be honest. If ya put a gun to your head, and REALLY want to commit suicide, YOU DON’T MISS. He didn’t MISS when he shot his kids.
MY OP? He didn’t want the ex to have the children. He took them from her. AND my heart aches enormously for that poor woman. I wish they listed her name, I’d do something. I am SICK what she must now go through.
I am unaware of the situation that Katy talks about….I will look it up.
Friday, I heard about a similar situation….where the estranged father killed the grama (babysitter) and his 3 year old son, while the estranged g.friend was at work.
Stabbed them both and set the house on fire….(didn’t do a very good job of the fire as it just smoldered).
http://www.rgj.com/article/20100917/NEWS01/100917033
Did manage to kill both though……NOT himself….he ran!
I commented in the comment section on this article….and I was very amazed at the negative comments that were made towards my post.
Always someone to blame the victim…..or find fault with someone making a point!
Bottom line…..2 people are DEAD!
EB…
I feel like we should have a little golden statue of you and every time someone does an EB, they should get custody of the statue. So maybe we can figure a way to create a cyber golden EB?
This story you cite is similar to the one that I read. It is someone who takes ultimate control by murdering the child so the ex can’t have him/her. I think the wackos prowl those stories and say terrible things just for thrills. Spaths in training.
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2010/09/17/introspection-brain-region.html
wonder how spathy fits into this
Katy:
Well….just make it cyber skinny would ya!
That is so funny! Thanks for the LOL!!
I’m busy making my points on that comment page from the article link above…..did ya happen to read the reaction I provoked?
Get the word out…..however we can! 🙂 As long as people are ‘thinking’ about ‘it’….the seed has been planted…..
Some seeds will die off and some will take root.
That is the thing, they will do anything to keep someone else from “Winning” even if it is to kill the child to keep the other parent from getting the child.
Remember the story of Solomon and the two women each claiming the baby boy that was living was hers? King Solomon said “let’s be fair, just take a sword and cut the kid in half and give each woman half.” The psychopathic woman said “FINE WITH ME! Cut him in half” but the REAL MOTHER said, “NO! NO! Let her have the living child.”
Solomon knew that the REAL mother loved that baby and the other woman who was claiming to love and want the child was a LIAR and a psychopath. (Male children were very valuable in those days)
The “parents” who love their kids so much that they would kill them before letting the other parent have them PROVE BY THAT FACT that they are psychopaths in my book.!
Even if your P was getting your child’s custody you would not murder the child, because you would hope that there was SOME CHANCE the child would escape or the custody would change. Only a control freak psychopath would kill the child.
KatyDid, we kind of have a “cyber award” with the Silver, or Gold or Platinum skillet award! EB has received several awards of the cyber skillet! Even a rubber skillet once I think! LOL
I’ve been completey fried in skillets! 🙂
ErinB my darling, I have never fried you in a skillet, though I have flattened your head a time or two! LOL
How are things out in snow-before-long land? It is still 96 here but the humidity is low, let me know when you get snowed in and want to come back to God’s country where the ground is still snow free 99% of the time in the winter!
Got doctor’s appt tomorrow to readjust my darth varder mask sleep machine again. Laugh
Did you read about my set to with AT&T over the 43 cent bills they keep accidently tagging on to my bill every month? No telling how many millions they rake in doing that accidently to a couple of million bills. I have have a new cause to take up—a psychopathic phone company! LOL I’ll hitt’em with the BIG SKILLET and ride old Fat Ass into their offices in New York or where ever! UGH!!!! LOL
Well, got to get to beddie by—on second thought I’m going to skip NY they have bed bugs up there and I don’t want to get any in my saddle blanket to bring back home! Might make Fat itch!
Must have been in my CAUSTIC days! 🙂
Weather was nice this weekend….until today. Winds and a storm on the other side of the lake.
Took some clients out jetskiing on Sat am after breakfast…..did the ‘shore’ tour……
These guys were big wigs, so they liked seeing the homes from inside the lake……Kinda funny having big, grown executive men on the BACK of MY jetski! 🙂 (none of them wanted to drive it alone).
Talk about humble men….for being so high up in LARGE companies…..and me being the fly on the ‘wall’…..there was just normal conversation, business talk but no sign of spathyness….and they were very gracious to me, appreciative up through the end.
VERY REFRESHING!
I had my checkup on Wed….the bloodword gig and 6 month check.
Should get the bloodword back this week and a call from the Dr. to discuss.
I didn’t read about your 43cent AT&T oversight…..funny how that happens! It also seems to happen in grocery stores……unless you catch it.
I HATE having to be so vigilant about being charged what is correct.
AT&T really pissed me off…..the day divorce was final spath went from court house to att store to purchase himself a new iphone! Dang it…..I don’t even have a iphone…..
I just so happened to see my next door idiot neighbor in the yard a few days later and he mentioned he had seen spath…
I said Oh yeah….where? He said in town at the att store. Oh, yeah….when was this? He said xx day…..and I knew I was in trouble.
I had put a pass code on my account and a pass word……TWO passthings…….
and it still didn’t prevent the dope sales guy from allowing spath to hack my account.
The dude wanted to make a sale…..
You can imagine the BITCH I PITCHED! Went to corportate.
Then….into the store…..TPO’s in hand….informing them of the danger they had exposed me to.
Dude got fired…..AND
It provoked a Regional training on the privacy issues and liability of the company, of which they dedicated one day in training…..they cc’d me on all management emails regarding this.
Go getem….don’t let these corportate cons get away with this extra billing.
Most peeps would say….oh, it’s only 43 cents…..and not do a thing about it….hence…they get away with it.
The point is……it’s YOUR 43 cents!!!!
I like my snow…..just not quite ready for it just yet. Hoping for more jet ski days.
The wind was so strong today, I almost lost a Kayak…..it floated off to the neighbors house……talk about timing…..I saw it through the security camera just as it was starting to float off the beach….YIKES…..EB went a runnen!
What are you having your mask bedazzled tomorrow?
Sleep tight darlen….don’t let the bedbugs bite!! 🙂
(ya see…..in snow country we don’t have snakes….fleas OR BED BUGS!)
I’m sticking around here!