Last week, I was invited to participate in a “Women’s History Breakfast” at a local high school. The school asked six local women to speak about obstacles they’ve overcome in their lives and careers to a group of approximately 50 girls.
I used the opportunity to talk about sociopaths.
First, I briefly summarized my story: I married James Montgomery, an Australian, who told me he was a Hollywood movie producer and screenwriter, a war hero who served in Vietnam with Special Forces, and who came to Atlantic City to open an electronic theme park for adults on the Boardwalk. The only thing that was true was that he was Australian.
Montgomery took $227,000 from me, cheated with at least six different women during out two-and-a-half year marriage, had a child with one of them, and then, 10 days after I left him, married the mother of the child, committing bigamy for the second time.
I had the girls’ attention.
Then I told them that my husband began his career as a liar and a cheater in high school. One of the women that I interviewed for my upcoming book relayed to me a story that James Montgomery told her: While he was in high school, Montgomery picked up a girl for a date. As they were on their way to wherever they were going, she said she forgot something and had to go back home. The girl and James walk into the house, and sitting there were six other girls—he’d told each one that she was his girlfriend. He was busted.
Now I really had the girls’ attention.
What was this guy’s problem? James Montgomery was a sociopath. I explained what a sociopath usually wasn’t—a delusional serial killer. I explained what it was—someone with no heart, no conscience and no remorse.
Then I read a shortened version of the letter that Lovefraud posted last year from a 15-year-old girl, I didn’t want to be alone and believed that he loved me. The girl described her involvement with a guy who was two years older than her. It was mostly a phone relationship—he couldn’t be bothered to actually see her. But if she went out, he got mad because she wasn’t paying attention to him. Then I read the part of the letter where he tries to get the girl to go along with his sick sexual fantasies.
By now, the girls in my high school audience were shocked.
I concluded my presentation with points on how they could protect themselves from sociopaths: First, know they exist. Second, know the warning signs. Third, trust your intuition.
The girls asked a lot of questions: How did I recover from my marriage to my ex-husband? (Good therapy.) The guy in the letter was verbally abusive—are sociopaths violent? (Sometimes.) Is there any treatment for sociopaths? (Once they are adults, no.)
I hope that I’ve warned 50 girls to be on the lookout for sociopaths.
Dear ErinBrock,
Thank you for believing in me when nobody else does. Dealing with my dad is like dealing with a crazy person. He gets mad about things that normal people wouldn’t get mad about. I’m tired of him constantly bothering me especially when its obvious that I’m not in good humor. Apparently, sociopaths can’t tell emotions on people because they lack empathy. Well, he definitely lacks empathy and thinks he deserves all the more respect. He doesn’t deserve anything for leaving children hungry for weeks. I just ignore him and keep to my studies but sometimes its difficult. Especially, when we go on road trips he will try to pick a fight. When his family is around he will make up lies about disrespect. I don’t really do anything but he makes it up. And nobody believes me because they think I’m just a child with a wild imagination.
Dear Jell, Glad you are back and recovering from your surgery! Take care of YOURSELF, and keep your stress level as low as possible. ((((Hugs))))
Donna
It really cheered me up to see the work you continue to do. Thank you so much for helping me and so many people in such an organised, generous and constantly loving way. No sociopath could keep you from shining your light and it’s contageous.
I work with troubled teenagers and at times I still feel like one myself. Yes I know…Here I am dispensing advice and during my time with these kids I meet and fall in love with a psychopath myself for chrisssake!!!
I have learned (eventually) to turn it into another valuable qualification for the job! A nessecary experience to arm me with a realistic view of the world and I give them eh…shall we say “up to date state of the art” information all the time on sociopaths straight from this site.
what worries me at the present time is the area of sex and sexuality. Some young boys are learning about sex on internet porn sites….duh…of course!!
The fallout is hurt and confused young girls wondering what is normal sexually and what is not. We have had police in to talk to them, community workers etc. to educate them on the law but Apparently these days boys expect oral, anal, show no empathy for the female, and put extreme pressure on young girls to “just do it” I am bound by child protection obligations and alarmed at what seems to be not just the odd rare psychopath lying his way into a vulnerable girls life but an all pervading CRUELTY to girls by young boys via sex. there is something very unsexy and miserable going on…love a discussion on it sometime here on lovefraud.
I have had at least 6 young girls (14 to 17) with stories that are fast becoming police statements. Why are governments of the world not talking about this time bomb? time to assess the messages going out to young males through pornography, about sex!!!
ErinB, I haven’t been around in awhile, so what’s up with the blood work? Whatever it is, it will all work out. Yes, I DO see the changes and there are days, like everyone else has, when things seem to go backwards, but they are slowly getting few and far between. Hey, where is that boring little sucker? hehehe
tobehappy, LUCIFER CUPID??? Roflmao! Although, if one thinks about it a bit, it fits! A man’s conscience is in his “wee-wee”? Ooooooooo K! I am so happy you got out of that and you are living a new life. Sometimes it seems so hard, but each moment you work on YOU and don’t give him any attention or thought, you are making you a bette person. Go girl! I have read “The Power of Now”. I read it a couple of years ago. It’s an excellent book and yes, it’s very deep. Worth reading though!
Years ago, when he had written his first book, I also met Deepak Chopra. He had actually come to visit my ex FIL. No connection to the ex spath I got rid of. The ex spath came 3 years after a 20 yr. marriage had ended. Deepak has some wonderful books out there as well. He was truly one of the nicest men I’ve ever met and he had a very calming influence on my soul. He truly lives what he writes.
hurtnomore010, I’ve read your posts and my heart goes out to you. I agree with what everyone has written to you. Knowledge is power and the fact that you truly understand your father is a HUGE step in your freedom. We can’t get out of something if we don’t even know what it is. It also sounds like you already have a plan(s). That’s a good thing! I think it takes enourmous courage to come to LF at your age and open up as you have. At the same time, I’m sorry you have to be here at all. You have a bright, wonderful future ahead of you and as someone has already said, this doesn’t last forever! Stay positive, focused and keep coming back!
Hugs,
Cat
Dear Hurtnomore,
Erin B’s advice is as good as it gets. We can’t let other’s opinons of us or the lies they tell about us be the mirror in front of which we stand! It presents a distorted picture.
I agree that you should find another adult to talk to about this. You talk about your father, is your mother or an aunt or school counselor or SOMEONE that you can completely trust to keep your confidences available?
Sometimes emotional abuse can be from a person who is NOT a psychopath, but just doesn’t have any idea how to be a supportive person, and uses striking out at others as a way to diminish stress, and with some motivation, they can LEARN to not be emotionally or otherwise abusive. However psychopaths do not learn and grow.
Being both a teenager and living in an emotionally abusive environment is a doubly difficult role to play. Finding a trusted adult to talk to, to help you work these feelins out positively, may be difficult but in the end, will help you grow and validate yourself as a good person.
I also can tell that you are a smart young woman!
Keep on reading here as well.! (((Hugs))))
Hurtnomore,
We all believe you. Dealing with an spath’s temper is very hard because often they explode at nothing and their anger is irrational. They pick the first target they see. Kudos to you for recognizing your dad for what he is and learning about this at a young age.
Hurtnomore:
Darling…..I tell my kids….we walk this earth with only our shadows…..so we MUST learn to only rely on ourselves.
I DO BELIEVE IN YOU!!!! You show courage, heart and compassion and pain.
Please don’t let ONE PERSON (important to a child nonetheless) take you down. Don’t let anyone tell you YOUR worth in this world, what your able or not able to do…..YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU PUT YOUR MIND TO!!!!!
It is confusing and severly upsetting, i’m sure. My kids had a father who was ‘no good’ also. He alwyas put them down, they could never please him, and they kept trying…….they were failures to him……Everyone loved him, and believed anything he spoke….he spoke horror stories about us…..
In the end…..we couldn’t change him or shut him up, please him or make him happy…….we stuck to our morals and character and stood tall….ignored him……and eventually
with time, and awareness….we are coming out of our mess and into ourselves…..confident in our capabilities and WHO we are.
Not just the kids……but me, as an adult woman too.
When you can remove yourself from your fathers ‘grasp’…..do at your first opportunity!!!!
Life will open up for you. Set yourself up to support yourself…..come hell or high water. It will be tough at first, but you will learn so many lessons……and best of all RELY ON NO ONE!!!!
Seek the sunshine, so you always have your shadow with you!!!
Know….your NOT going to change your father, HE WILL NEVER CHANGE, because he doesn’t see a problem…..he projects his problems on to you…….DON”T TAKE ANYTHING PERSONALLY…..IT”S NOT YOU!!!
Value yourself, love yourself and go off into the world with your eyes wide open.
YOUR DOING GREAT…..remain strong and do it for YOU!!!!!
XXOO
EB
Cat….I am really moving forward with my new life…reading anything that will help me to NOT be the same as I’ve been.
Trying not to let my “subconscious” stuff from my past, rule me. Most people are still functioning from this place and I realize now that I have been in a state of “dysfunction” all of these years…since childhood. I have let what happenned to me stay unresolved and now its time to resolve the past…be aware of how my “insecurities” and “low self esteem” has caused so much pain in my life. So, my new mission is to learn how to re-route my brain and not think and feel like I am still a child..so afraid of abandonment.
I have ACCEPTED my role in all of my failed relationships. I accept the fact that I wasn’t being WISE and choosing the wrong people to try to fill that void..inside of me..that I felt all of my life.
I realize now that “I” need to fill that void. I need to like and love who I am before I can like or love anyone on this earth.
My recent relationship was just a replay of an old trauma…my childhood. It was me trying to get love from someone who was just like my mother…and it failed. It only caused me frustration and agony. It wasn’t healthy.
I am in the process of getting healthy…mentally and physically. Thats my mission this year.
One year from now, I will be a completely different person..I feel it already. I am more confident…and I don’t even pay mind to what anyone thinks about me. I only listen to my gut feeling about what “I” feel about everyone I meet or deal with.
Its really the most peaceful I have felt in my whole life. I have NO fear…at all. I am functioning from a different place.
I am no longer that little girl…full of fear ….afraid of abandonment. I am a grown woman who can create her own reality now..on a new level.
Lots of work…but well worth it.
TOBE:
YOU GO GIRL!!!!
Jell:
Welcome home darlen!!!
Take the time required to heal from your surgery…….don’t overdo anything!
I hope it was a success and your back on the mend.
Keep your spirits high girl!!!!
XXOO
EB