By Ox Drover
I recently read The Gaslight Effect—How to spot and survive the hidden manipulations other people use to control your life, by Dr. Robin Stern. I highly recommend this book to Lovefraud readers.
Robin Stern, Ph.D., is a therapist specializing in emotional abuse and psychological manipulation. She teaches at Hunter College, Teachers College and Columbia University, and is a leadership coach for faculty.
This well-written book is quite reader friendly. Dr. Stern starts off by defining the term “gaslighting” as being “pressured by someone else to believe the unbelievable.” She goes on to show that gaslighting is “an insidious form of emotional abuse and manipulation that can be difficult to recognize and difficult to break free from.”
In the first chapter, Dr. Stern says:
I constantly encounter women who are smart, strong, successful. Yet, I keep hearing the same story: Somehow, many of these confident, high-achieving women were being caught in demoralizing, destructive and bewildering relationships. Although the woman’s friends and colleagues might have seen her as empowered and capable, she had come to view herself as incompetent—a person who could trust neither her own abilities nor her own perception of the world.
”¦ In every case, a seemingly powerful woman was involved in a relationship with a lover, spouse, friend, colleague, boss or family member who caused her to question her own sense of reality and left her feeling anxious, confused and deeply depressed ”¦ (and) whose approval she kept trying to win, even as his treatment of her went from bad to worse. Finally I was able to give this painful condition a name: The Gaslight Effect, after the old movie Gaslight.
In the 1944 classic film, Ingrid Bergman marries a charismatic and mysterious man played by Charles Boyer. It is the story of a young and vulnerable singer who marries an older man who, unbeknownst to her, tries to drive her insane in order to get her inheritance. He continually tells her that she is ill and fragile. He rearranges household items and accuses her of doing so, and manipulates the level of lights, which dim for no apparent reason. Eventually the heroine starts to believe she is going insane and begins to act “crazy.” She is desperate for her husband’s approval. She is only able to finally realize she is not insane when a policeman sees the lights dim and validates her reality.
Though Dr. Stern makes clear that not all gaslighters are deliberately trying to drive their partners insane, nevertheless, they invalidate the views and realities of their partners. In trying to please them, the partners let go of themselves and their view of reality.
Dr. Stern never uses the words “psychopath” or “sociopath,” but instead refers to emotional abusers as “gaslighters” and the abused as “gaslightees.” She does make it clear that there are patterns here that most of Lovefraud readers would equate with sociopaths and psychopaths.
Dr. Stern divides types of gaslighters into three categories of emotional abusers and three stages of gaslighting. She points out the internal signals, feelings that would tell a person being gaslighted that they are indeed experiencing some form of emotional abuse and invalidation of their reality by someone they want to please.
I am one of those people who, when reading a book, am apt to highlight passages in the book for later reference. With this book, I gave up highlighting because I tended to highlight entire chapters instead of a few phrases. In my opinion this book is a must have for every Lovefraud reader. It validates the very subtle feelings we get when we know something is wrong and can’t quite put our fingers on what is wrong with a relationship.
Not only does Dr. Stern point out how to recognize these feelings as warning signs, but she coaches readers in how to handle these in a way that is healthy and easily understood. She gives the tools to her readers to recognize even subtle signs of emotional abuse, and to confront this in such a way that if the victim is not dealing with a psychopath/sociopath, the relationship can be improved markedly. She also points out that there are some gaslighters that are so invested in being right that there is no hope for the relationship, and the only hope for the victim to be happy is to let go of that toxic relationship.
The Gaslight Effect is available on Amazon.com.
hurtnomore – stand your ground about the aunts.
i can’t tell you how happy it makes me that YOU are getting how to take care of yourself. you are learning things most of us here never knew and lost decades of our lives because we didn’t know.
TOWANDA!!!
Dear one step,
i will thanks for the advice!
Hi to you all!
Hi Ox!
You are right about the macabre dance, the triad where the person plays a different role as it suits him/her: Victim-Rescuer-Abuser ïŒ
Since I told my *best* friend that I was not going to her birthday party a week ago, she has not called or anything.
Rememer this is the person who constantly talked about her husband (and other problems) with me, all the time; I forgot to mention that when she was in trouble, I lent her money, sometimes up to 1000 Dollars, she paid back on time that’s true, but I guess what I want to say is that now that I am in no place to listen to her problems and because she doesn’t want to get help, she is slowly retiring from me, and this is good I assume.
As I said, she is or was not a *bad* friend but now I can see that maybe she was there for me because I ve always listened to her problems and rescued her, I am the only person who for 20 + years has helped her the most.
Its sad to find out that in order to keep her friendship, I had to be there for her ALL the time and now that I cant be there because it was extremely toxic, she is begging to slowly disappear; it seems like we don’t have much in common anymore.
I know she is now turning into other people who are there for her now that I am not there and its sad to see how I’ve changed from being a good rescuer friend, to someone who is not needed anymore.
But I deserve fulfilling relationships and happy times, something that she doesn’t have and cant have because again, her husband makes her terribly anxious and therefore she has become more critical, ironic and aggressive towards people (and not just me, others too); especially now that she doesn’t have someone who will listen to her for hours and hours so that she can relief her anxiety, I was that *friend* for her.
Her therapist told her that friends are for that, to be there for each other and I agree, the thing is that my friend told me that her therapist told her if she (my friend) can no longer talk about her problems and be natural with her friends (i.e ME), than the friendship might just end because she (my friend) has to be authentic and natural, so go figure how I feel now, especially when I know that Ns tend to drain others with their eternal complaints, explosive moments, anxiety, problems, etc. She is like that and now that I am not willing to listen to all of this, she is no longer interested that much.
But thank you so much for being here!
I appreciate it!
And yes, it feels different (for good) to not have to worry about what her next problem will be; this is the life that we all deserve 🙂
Ox:
You said:
” Why do any of us need ANYone in our lives that treats us poorly and what “relationship” gives anyone the RIGHT to treat us like DIRT? Or talk to us mean? NOTHING DOES!~!!! ”
Exactly!
Only an abuser (male or female, friend or not), treats others like dirt or talk mean. Healthy people don’t do this, ever
Dear Blue Eyes,
Of course you are RIGHT ON!!!! But sometimes people say “Oh, s/he’s my ________(fill in the name of the relationship here) and you can’t turn your back on FAMILY”
Of course my reaction is “THAT ain’t family, no matter what the blood relationship is!”
It took my entire life for me to figure that out, to fiind out that “family” are the people who LOVE you, regardless of what the blood relationship is. It took me that same life time to realize that a “friend” does not treat you badly either, and so my “family and friends” are ONLY those people who are good to me, that treat me with KINDNESS, RESPECT and HONESTY above all else.
It doesn’t have to be a long list of things just those three, RESPECT, KINDNESS, AND HONESTY.
If the relationship has those THREE components, no matter what the problem is, it can be solved. You and that person may disagree 180 degrees but the PROBLEM BETWEEN YOU can be solved. Or at worst you can agree to disagree.
Without those three things, ALL three things, no relationship is worth having! IMHO, so just get away from it.
Blue eyes,
Her therapist (if her therapist DID SAY THAT, and I’m not sure the therapist did!) is off base. Friendships are NOT just about LISTENING and saying “oh, you poor darling!” when the person is NOT making any effort to GET OUT of the bad situastion.
Sometimes being a REAL FRIEND is saying
“Mary, john has hit you in the head 30 times and you’ve had him arrested and then gone and baled him out. Each time, you came to me and cried about how he hurts you. This has gone on for 30 years and IT IS THE SAME AS IT WAS 30 YEARS AGO. I love you, Mary, but I would not be your friend if I sat here and watched you let him hurt you for ANOTHER 30 years! SO I AM GOING TO BE YOUR FRIEND BECAUSE I LOVE YOU, and tell you somethin that is going to make you angry. ONLY YOU CAN HELP YOURSELF MARY, AND ALL YOU ARE DOING IS WHINING ABOUT BEING A VICTIM. I CAN’T SAVE YOU, YOU HAVE TO DO IT YOURSELF.”
Now mary may become angry at you….and there may be others on this blog that think what I am saying is counter productive, but themore I learn about abuse, the more I know that while we can support each other, we CANNOT SAVE EACH OTHER. Each of us must do that for ourselves.
People who are UNCOMFORTABLE in a relationship but really have NO real desire to change that relationship will whine about it and play the pity ploy as a form of (for lack of a better word) socialization. The relationship is their whole life, so that’s all they want to talk about, that’s all they are interested in.
Heck, I’ve DONE IT MYSELF, I’ve been there and bitched and whined about my P son but really not DONE ANYTHING to save myself. DONE ANYTHING LIKE SET BOUNDARIES! LIKE NC. I wish my friends had KICKED MY ARSE!!!
Fortunately, I kicked the P-BF to the curb myself, but I am sure if I hadn’t done so, my friends would have just listened to me whine! LOL
LISTENING and supporting in a friendship where there is nothing that can be DONE—your friend has cancer, or a sick kid, or loses a kid from an accident, etc. THAT’s GREAT, or where there is something that CAN NOT BE DONE that isn’t bein done is wonderful.
I also know that it takes several times for most of us to be agle to gain strength and actually go NC on a relatiionship, ANY relationship, so a reasonable amount of supportive listening is a GOOD THING, but there comes a poiint that it doesn’t do anything except pllay the game.
Each of us has to make that distinction on when we bow out and say “Mary, YOU have got to help yourself, I’ve given you all the advice I can. I’m your friend and I love you, but let’s don’t talk about jJohn’s abuse of you any more until you are jready to take some action. In the meantime, let’s talk baseball, “HOW ABOUT THOSE CUBBIES.”
OxD, you’re SPOT-ON! The former spath friend complained bitterly about how her husband abused her BUT only when the focus was placed upon her actions. In the middle of my asking why she felt that she was allowed to disclose sensitive personal information to someone that she was waiting on in a restaurant, she turned on the waterworks and attempted to immediately change the subject and referred to the domestic violence.
What I have learned about friendships is that I am not obliged to accept bad behavior, stupid choices, or listen to negativity, ad nauseum. Talking about our issues is one thing, but to dominate a conversation about how she can’t wait for her mother to die and then expect me to allow it after I’d made it CLEAR that I found such remarks upsetting is not, under any circumstances, a “friendship.” I was nothing more than a fencepost for her to hang her baggage on.
Nope – no thank you. I prefer my own company, alone, rather than accept bad behavior as a trade for company.
Dear Buttons,
Sometimes people who are abused (for sure) are so ALONE they will pickk out people, their hair dresser, or the customer if they are the client or ppeople they are waitin on if they are a server to tell their tale of woe to. I’m not sure what drives this because I would never have done such a thing, but there were times after the “light went on” for me that I almost wanted to run out and grab the first person I saw and tell them my pain!
I think you did the right thing, confronting it6 and showing that you do NOT want to continue this coversations. SETTING BOUNDARIES. GOOD JOB!
Thanks, OxD….I’m getting there, bit by bit.
This gal does this to EVERYone. And, when she does this, it’s as if she’s “sharing a big secret.” That she is the ONLY person who has an inside link to whomever she’s talking about. The preface to the disclosure to this customer was, “You probably don’t know this, but Buttons is leaving for a while, but….” and she went on to disclose my financial situation down to the amount that I had in my checking account!
Now, I have to own part of this because I should NEVER have allowed myself to feel comfortable enough with anyone to tell them THAT much about myself and my personal issues.
Yessssss………….setting the boundaries. Thanks! 😀
Dear Ox,
THank you so much for your time and post 🙂
“LISTENING and supporting in a friendship where there is nothing that can be DONE—your friend has cancer, or a sick kid, or loses a kid from an accident, etc. THAT’s GREAT, or where there is something that CAN NOT BE DONE that isn’t bein done is wonderful.”
Yup, this is Empathy, caring for another human being, and what my friend does is pretend to be ALL that.
Thank you!