People who have a particular gene, scientists have found, are more likely to cheat on a romantic partner.
Read The love-cheat gene: One in four born to be unfaithful, claim scientists on DailyMail.co.uk.
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How to recognize and recover from everyday sociopaths - narcissists
Agree CAmom. I am trying to teach my kids to avoid all trigger “temptations”. My ex has a sex addiction and that was started and promoted during his teen “playboy” days. I am teaching mine that sex can be addictive if it is used for pleasure. While that sounds stange, sex has become a “pasttime” and is such a trap for our youth.
sidenote-I was told the club foot tendency is not so much hereditary as environmental. But choose a sire with good strong feet. This from vets and farriers. I had a clubbed mare but did not breed her–Belgian cross.
Right now, horses are a dime a dozen because of the “kill ban” in USDA plants. I watched good horses the other day sell for $225 (well broken nice horses) and saw donkeys go for $17.50 and unbroken horses for $25, all went to slaughter in Mexico I am sure, so they will have a rough 2-day ride to Mexico where they will be put through the slaughter plant there (you can only imagine) so since there is a surplus of horses, I advise you NOT TO BREED YOUR MARE at all. Why create more horse flesh to suffer?
Even FANTASTIC horses with WONDERFUL bloodlines are going to slaughter in Mexico, or being turned loose on the highways of this nation. Please do not create another horse! If you want another horse, buy one, even the good ones are CHEAP as dirt, and any you buy will have a good home and not go to slaughter in Mexico. I am NOT against horses being used for meat, I just want them HUMANELY HANDLED and right now it costs more to coggins test one than it will bring on the open market, and feed is expensive so people are abandoning horses right and left to starve.
I also advise people not to breed pet dogs/cats for companion animals, when there are millions put down each year because there are no homes, and with the economy being what it is now more and more people are not able to properly care for their animals and are abandoning them or being forced to give them up.
Okay, that’s enough of my advertisement for animal welfare but you get the idea.
Flowerpower, I think sex should be a “bonding ritual between two people who love each other” but the psychopaths seem to think it should be a spectator sport, team sport or a tag-team match…LOL
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Isn’t is amazing how many of us are animal lovers/carers? (Probably not, actually, when you consider that it was our kind and caring natures that got us hooked in with spaths and/or kept us there too long)
I was the President for a large animal welfare society in my state some years back. My own animals (all rejects, acquired as rescues) are all sterilised and properly contained within my land holding. Having stood many times in the “back room” of the animal welfare shelter assisting the vet to put down up to 200+ beautiful kittens surrendered by the public on any given afternoon for no other reason than that they were irresponsibly bred and there were no good homes for them to go to, I get really cross when people don’t fix their dogs and cats.
I used to have a strict no-kill philosophy, but after seeing so much pain and suffering in dumped and unwanted pets, I eventually became convinced that the first best outcome was a kind, loving, responsible new owner – and the next best outcome (if the first was not possible) was the “green dream”. At least there is no more pain, hunger or abuse.
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What a coincidence when I read this post I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry to be honest. I live in the UK and the daily mail and most other papers here love to sensationalise everything. You couldn’t put a book in there without them wanting to make it into some kind of story. I got approached by a journalist a couple of years ago after writing an ebook on cheaters which I wanted some publicity for before I wrote the book I have just written and the wanted a take on the story. My dad is a sociopath and they wouldn’t print the story below without some kind of “validation” from him about as to whether he had cheated or not. Last count he finally admitted to about 12 affairs of which 6 were with my mums best mates !.
Anyway the point is I never got a plug for the book and they came up with this headline “Is there a cheating gene” and focussed the whole story on my dad. Just like they would do if any writers were to appear on shows like oprah talking about psychopaths and so on. If you have ever read the article from Dr Robert hare and I quote
“And into the ethical and political realm — the realm of extrapolation, of speculation, of opinion — Hare will not step. He’s been asked to be a guest on Oprah (twice), 60 Minutes, and Larry King Live. Oprah wanted him alongside a psychopath and his victim. “I said, ‘This is a circus,’ ” Hare says. “I couldn’t do that.” 60 Minutes also wanted to “make it sexy” by throwing real live psychopaths into the mix. Larry King Live phoned him at home while O. J. Simpson was rolling down the freeway in his white Bronco. Hare says no every time (while his publisher gently weeps).”
Anyway for anyone that wants a laugh heres the post that the daily mail did on me
As for my dad he had a field day. He phoned up all his mates and loved all the attention and told them to buy the paper because he was now “infamous” even though the newspaper edition used the worst picture of him ever and it painted him as a cheating lethario but he was getting attention LOL and despite his swimming trunks he would normally have an all over tan as he loved to sunbath naked which is a whole other disgusting story in itself.
Pathetic LOL
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1036162/Is-adultery-gene-One-woman-traces-infidelity-patterns-shaped-life.html
My personal view is there are some genetics involved but just because we have parents who are sociopaths doesn’t mean we have to grow up like them! I have two brothers who thankfully haven’t grown up like my father. All of us has some learned habits but next thing they will be saying is there a “high sex drive Gene”
There is alot of misinformation about genes and genetics and yes there are many interesting articles on the net including a recent study by Jim Fallon who carries what he calls the “warrior gene” after finding out his own family are a bunch of serial killers but even though he carries it he hasn’t murdered anyone yet.
Just because our parents are cheaters and we may carry some gene doesn’t mean we will do it. Its called having a consience !
I read a Dr Oz posting that showed up on my facebook page that said that Narcissism is no longer going to be considered a disorder-has anyone heard anything about that?
Dear nolonger naive,
They are just changing around the terminology mostly, but the Narcissistic (SEPARATE) PD will not be listed separate from the other personality disorders and personally I think it is a SUB-set of psychopathy anyway, rather than a separate one. I don’t think you can be highly narcissistic and NOT be a psychopath….there are still a lot of arguments and semantics over what to call them and just what is a symptom and what isn’t and at what level and so on, it will take another 10-50 years to sort it all out I think.
Thanks no ordinary, just why SOME of us develop consciences and others don’t even with pith-poor and abusive backgrounds Plus the genetics, is a mystery for sure, but the identical twins raised apart in adoptive homes show that in one twin is a P there is a 50-80% chance the other one will be as well, that’ speaks pretty highly to the role of genetics.
I truly beleive that we are what we are. We are born with our temperaments. Yes, environment can definitely change our “bad genes”. But, the problem is that if a psychopath is born, and the parent(s) are psychpaths, then they are raising the children wrong (abuse, neglect) too!
For example, my xbf. His mother was mentally ill, (had 12 kids with 9 different fathers!), then abandoned all of them one day! He has no idea who his father is! Nor do the rest of the children. So, he was raised by a grandmother, who was an abusive woman who beat them and inflicted fear into themdaily! So, the genes get perpetuated,….more monsters are created! Its a cycle and it may not ever stop in that geneline!!!
He turned out to be a paranoid, selfish, pathological lying “warrior” (as he called himself).
Now, the sad part. He was TELLING me what he was, what he came from…and showing me by his actions, that he was really messed up. Yet “I” thought, somehow, that he could be “NORMAL”??????
Well, he did put on a good “mask”, became a “professional” ( cop) and was college educated, and “appeared” to be someone who rose above the adversity in his life.
NO, he was NOT ‘normal’. He never addressed his emotional issues…had two failed marriage, doesn’t believe in “therapy” or any psychological counselling….so he went through his life, being “impulsive” and fooling people, and hurting people.
How I thought that I could have a relationship of any kind with such a disordered person, I don’t know. He put on a good “show” ….had me fooled on a certain level ( my gut feelings were telling me all along not to trust him!)…and I allowed myself to be taken advantage of by a disordered person.
So, now its back to ME. What is ME gave him a chance to hurt me. Why “I” didn’t listen to my gut feelings about him all along.
Knowing his genetics and childhood, I can’t be angry at him for how he affected ME. I am more upset with myself for not listening to my gut feelings about him. And, I ask myself, “what in ME let him into my life?”
The answer is in the “betrayal bond” and the low self esteem I’ve had being raised by a sociopath mother.
Now, the question is, “what do I do about it?” How do I not get into situations like this again? I married one, divorced one, and then got sucked in by another one!
They say that we usually make the same mistake twice. There WILL NOT be a third time. I will work on changing MY neurons for abuse, before I ever get involved in a romatic relationship with any man again.
That, I promise to myself.
Oxy-I agree with you 100% on the DSM thing. Narcissism has to be a subset of psychopathy. That’s why I had to call mine N/P all the time. When you look at the checklists for each one, he had all the characteristics from both disorders. It’s just crazy how we come in contact with so so many in our daily lives. I think that the percentages of disordered people is underestimated.