Sooner or later, those of us who are romantically involved, or have been romantically involved, with sociopaths and other exploiters recognize that the relationship is bad for us and must end. Although we know this intellectually, often we still feel incredible attraction, even love, for the individual. How do we break the emotional attachment?
For example, Lovefraud recently received the following letter:
I am single, and I think I was with someone very narcissistic, if not outright sociopathic. The thing is, even though I am no longer with him (and he did not get to my finances), he broke my heart.
My question is, how do you get over him? I have tried to date others, but no man has compared with the chemistry and (you know, all the rest) that I had with the narcissist. I have a man now who truly loves me, and we are soul mates. I just don’t have that “sizzle” with him that I did with the one who was bad for me. Do you think I should “settle” for the good, honest man? I mean, I am attracted to him; it’s just not the mad passion like the narcissist brought out.
Many, many readers have told Lovefraud that getting over relationships with sociopaths (narcissists, etc.) is much more difficult than getting over other relationships that they’ve had. The reasons for this are complicated, and are rooted in both normal human psychology and the sociopath’s pathology.
The seduction
The first thing to understand is that sociopaths engage in seduction. This is significantly different from a normal dating relationship.
When two relatively healthy people begin dating, they are both testing the waters. They are spending time with each other to see if they like each other enough, or have enough in common, or get along well enough, to keep going. Yes, one party may be more interested than the other, but neither of them has made a decision.
In contrast, sociopaths purposely and consciously seduce their targets. They lavish the person with attention. They want to know everything about the target, they call and text constantly, they shower the person with gifts large and small. Sociopaths move fast, and quickly begin talking about love, commitment and marriage. This is called love bombing.
For most of us, the only experience we’ve ever had with this level of attention is in a fairytale. We are swept off our feet, caught up in the intensity, the magic, of Prince or Princess Charming. We’ve heard all those stories of “love at first sight,” and hope that it’s finally happened to us. We think it’s real.
Here’s what you need to understand: The sociopath’s extraordinary pursuit is never about love. It is about predation. You are or have something that the sociopath wants—at least for the moment. Despite what the sociopath says, his or her interest in you is not about building a relationship or future together. It’s about acquiring a possession.
The sex adventure
Sociopaths, both men and women, are hard-wired for sex. They have high levels of testosterone, and a strong appetite for stimulation. These two facts are probably responsible for the “animal magnetism” that we sense with them.
But that’s only the beginning. Sociopaths are often extraordinarily energetic and proficient lovers—at least technically. Because of their tremendous sexual appetite, they start young and have a lot of partners, so they quickly become experienced. And, because they have no shame, they feel no inhibitions. In fact, they frequently want to push their partners’ boundaries.
Is this passion? No—it’s boredom. Sociopaths quickly tire of the same old thing, and want new sexual adventures. Getting the target to go along with their desires offers two types of rewards: They enjoy new modes of stimulation. And, they manipulate the partners. This is especially fun if the partner initially resists the demands.
The sex connection
From Nature’s point of view, of course, the purpose of sex is propagation—the continuation of the human species. Nature wants children to survive, and the best chance of that happening is when parents stay together to care for them.
Therefore, sexual intimacy causes changes in the brain that contribute to bonding between the partners. One agent for doing this is oxytocin, a neurotransmitter sometimes called the “love hormone.”
Oxytocin is released during sexual orgasm, and, in women, in childbirth and nursing. According to Wikipedia, here’s what the hormone does:
Oxytocin evokes feelings of contentment, reductions in anxiety, and feelings of calmness and security around the mate. In order to reach full orgasm, it is necessary that brain regions associated with behavioral control, fear and anxiety are deactivated; which allows individuals to let go of fear and anxiety during sexual arousal. Many studies have already shown a correlation of oxytocin with human bonding, increases in trust, and decreases in fear.
So during sex, your brain is being flooded with calmness, trust and contentment, and fear and anxiety are alleviated. If you’re involved in a true loving and committed relationship, this contributes to bonding, which is fine and healthy.
Sociopaths, however, do not bond in the same way that healthy people do. Although we don’t know if oxytocin works differently in sociopaths, or perhaps doesn’t work at all, we do know that sociopaths are deficient in their ability to love. So while the healthy partner develops a love bond; the sociopath does not.
The addiction
A love bond is created by pleasure, and during the seduction phase of the relationship, the sociopath generates extreme pleasure for the target. However, addiction research has discovered that although pleasure is required to form a bond, pleasure is not required to maintain it. Even when a relationship starts to get rocky, normal people still feel bonded. Again, this is Nature’s way of keeping people together. If parents split up at the first sign of trouble, the survival of children would be in doubt.
Sooner or later, of course, relationships with sociopaths get rocky. Perhaps the sociopath engages in cheating, stealing or abuse. The sociopath’s actions create fear and anxiety in the target. But instead of driving the target away from the sociopath, anxiety and fear actually strengthen the psychological love bond.
So what do the targets do? They turn to the sociopaths for relief. The sociopaths may apologize profusely and promise to change their hurtful ways, reassuring the targets. The targets, feeling bonded to the sociopaths, want to believe the reassurances, so they do. Then the two people have sex, which reinforces the bond again.
From the target’s point of view, the relationship becomes a vicious circle of bonding, anxiety, fear, relief, sex and further bonding. The longer it goes on, the harder it is for the target to escape.
The result: For the target, the love bond becomes an addiction.
Vulnerability
How is this possible? How do targets get into this predicament?
Often, targets are primed for sociopathic relationships due to trauma that they have already experienced in their lives. As children, they may have suffered physical, emotional, psychological or sexual abuse from family members, authority figures or others. Or, the targets may have already experienced exploitative relationships, such as domestic violence, from which they have not recovered.
These abusive experiences create “trauma bonds.” As a result, abuse and exploitation feel normal to a target.
For healing to occur, targets need to look honestly into themselves and into their histories, finding the root of the issue. Was there a prior relationship that made you vulnerable to a sociopath?
Recovery
So, to answer the original question in the letter, how do you get over the sociopath?
First of all, you need to understand that what you are feeling is not chemistry or love. You are feeling addiction and a pathological love bond—the trauma bond.
Healing requires conscious effort. The book called The Betrayal Bond, by Patrick J. Carnes, Ph.D., is an excellent resource for doing this. Carnes writes:
Once a person has been part of our lives, the ripples remain, even though we have no further contact. In that sense a relationship continues even though we may consciously exorcise it from our conscious contact. Once you understand that principle, a shift will occur in all of your contact with others.
If the relationship was toxic, as in a traumatic bond, the relationship must go through a transformation, since it will always be with you. You do not need to be in contact with th person to change the nature of the relationship. You can change how you perceive it. You can change how it impacts you.
How do you do this? You commit to facing the reality of the relationship—all of it. Trauma tends to distort perception—you want to focus the good memories and forget about the bad ones. You must force yourself to deal with the truth of the experience—including the betrayal.
If you’re still feeling the tug of the pathological relationship, The Betrayal Bond includes information and exercises that can help you break free. The book is available in the Lovefraud Store. (My book, Love Fraud, describes an alternative path to recovery.)
And to the Lovefraud letter-writer: Do not confuse drama with love. Accepting a good, honest man is not “settling.” It is the foundation of a healthy relationship.
You can move forward.
The sex is definitely my stumbling block . . . because yes it was fantastic. And I realize that’s what I was addicted to, and that’s why I held onto the relationship.
And I’m not as far along as you think I am, because I still hold onto the same stumbling block. And despite learning about all his sick perverted behavior that he hid from me for years, it still drives me crazy to think he’s doing to her all what he did to me . . . and she’s loving it, just like I did. I know she’s addicted to the sex as well.
I’m getting ready to tell on myself . . . and basically share something very sick that I did this past summer. So here goes 🙂
When I told you yesterday that I knew he was still doing things online . . . well, the reason why I know is because I created an online alias and began chatting with him as I knew his new user name. And guess what, I had him hooked immediately — yet he never knew it was me.
The chats were major turn-ons for both of us, and I found that he was becoming obsessed with my online persona. And I felt it was sweet revenge, because I was now the OW and I was doing to her what she had done to me . . . I may have not been with him physically, but I knew he was obsessing over me. Thinking about me when he was with her, plotting our next chat, plotting when/how we could get together.
But as time wore on, I could not do it anymore. It was getting way out of hand, I didn’t trust myself . . . and it was consuming me as well. And, too, he was now starting to flirt with me as the ex-wife . . . because obviously my online persona was reminding him of his time with me.
So I finally confessed to him. And know what? It turned him on . . . he wasn’t even furious! So for a week or two after, he was begging to see me . . . and I finally relented late one night. He drove two hours in the middle of night to have one last go-around.
Was it good . . . somewhat (anything is good when you haven’t had sex in a year), but not really. I performed just like he wanted, but I couldn’t even kiss him. I realized then that I no longer loved him, that he actually disgusted me. But more importantly, I realized once and for all he was a liar and cheat through and through, and would never change. And despite all his proclamations of loving her, he would cheat on her and anyone else in a heartbeat. So that was my closure.
Now, I still have my moments . . . even despite all that. When I lay alone in my own bed, I think he’s with her doing to her what he used to do to me.
But I only want to remember the good stuff, not the bad . . . and that’s where I have to turn my mind around.
I was with him for 20 years . . . and let me tell you what happens after 20 years with a man like this. The sex is fantastic, over-the-top and can go on like this for years if your imaginative and adventurous. But how do you out-do the night before night after night (as well as deal with the day-to-day life of kids, work, house, etc.).
For him, I did just about everything imaginable, without bringing in a third person. Yet as time went on to get him off, he needed more and more and I relented to please him. He abused me, he was rough/cruel, and there were many nights I cried feeling like I didn’t even exist. In fact, I sometimes I felt as if I was being raped.
And, too, I maintained my life of denial. While I made what I thought was love to this man, I would look into his eyes and declare my love and he did the “I love you, too.” with those empty eyes. I saw that emptiness . . . but, as always immediately would erase it from my mind and say it was just my imagination.
The want for sex became less and less for me in our 16 year marriage and I made every excuse that I could. And if we fought as a couple, that’s what we fought over (not over money, his absences, his irresponsibilty) it was over sex. And I was the one to be blamed because I was the one who was wearing the flannetl pjs at night.
And, naturally, I accepted the blame, it was NEVER his fault because he was always ready for a romp in the hay. He had me convinced that it was all my fault, that I had lost my desire, that I had become fat, that I didn’t love myself so how could he love me?
But now I realize that I was just another piece of a$$ to him. Unknowingly, I was being compared to all the porn, the online chats, the phone sex, the BJs from strangers in parking lots, the random sexual encounters he had on business travels, the mistress.
There was no real emotional connection in our making love — it was just f*cking, nothing more, nothing less. And that gets old over time . . . not just for him, but for me too.
This “aha” moment didn’t really happen for me, until months after he left me when I read the book, “Women Who Love Too Much.” In it a client who had numerous sexual affairs, was finally in a healthy relationship and was in love with someone who loved her back . . . and despite her numerous past flings she was scared to have sex with him. The therapist pointed out that she was “finally” bonding with someone . . . that there was an emotional connection she never had before.
So this is what makes me sad. That what I thought was love was just sex. I am 42 yo and I don’t know what it is like to truly make love to someone, and to be loved.
But, to tell on myself again . . . as you may recall, my ex was my one and only. So since my divorce, I’ve had a couple of one night stands that for me were fun. It wasn’t great mind-blowing sex like with the ex, but it wasn’t bad.
The best part for my own ego/self-esteem is that I truly “rocked” these guys’ world and they can’t get enough me. I guess the ex did teach me a thing or two 😉
Will I see them again? I don’t know . . . that’s up to me.
Please don’t think I’m a slut . . . but, I needed to do this. It makes me feel desirable, wanted, and too, it shows that I can find good sex again if I want it. That my ex is not the end all, be all God of Sex
But what I know now is I don’t want “just sex.” I had that and it turned bad . . . I want a love, a connection, that lasts forever!
Wow I love True Confessions, I applaud you for being REAL. Playing the online chat game with him was sick, sounds like some games I played on my X. Sick. Yes I am guilty too. One time the X said “I was just like him” and at the time I was. I never got a tender caress from him, no eye contact from him during sex..but that is what it was – just sex – We rated our sex session’s on a scale of 1 to 10 – many times we hit 12 or 16…..I was but a performance for him, a porn star, a captured sex slave. I have made love many times but never with the X….. Not just sex is a stumbling block for me but age is a huge stumbling block for me. He was 12 years younger. And 7 years of my life was wasted on this charade? Well should I click on post or cancel?
OMG Woodrow,
I’m absolutely amazed by this. I WISH I could get the closure in the way you got yours.
Part of this for me, is that I’m so upset with myself for not having been more adventurous after a time. I was genuinely exhausted from all of the pain OUT of bed, that performing for him was exhausting to me. He wanted me to use my vibrator SO BAD with him, begged me, but I made excuses and I did so because I knew I was being used, I was an object. I did everything to him, rarely did ever do anything to me. Rarely did he kiss me, rarely did he ever do anything that would be considered circus monkey sex, he was somewhat inhibited, however, with his divorce, his sexual appetite was growing. The sex got old for me. His abuse was so bad, I just didn’t want to “connect” with him anymore. But there is this underlying feeling that somehow he’s connecting with someone else and that she’s opening up his inhibited side. That truly bothers me. It bothers me because I’m the least inhibited person sexually and was willing and did do what he wanted. Which by some of the standards here isn’t the circus monkey sex some here have had. He used my being good in bed against me too. “Just because you’re good in bed, doesn’t mean I want to be with you”…kind of crap. The ONLY time in the past he was “nice” to me was right after sex, “You’re the bomb babe” “You’re the best”…blahblahblah….I wish I had proof that he was on porn sites or whatever. If he was, he kept that side of him well hidden and with the idea that he was pretty “virginal” other than just wanting a close connection and more open sexuality. We did a sex tape several months ago. He still has it UGH, anyway, he would love to watch it with me. I HATED it! He also made fun of the way I would give him bj’s. Are you KIDDING ME? Unreal. It was unreal. I got good at it because I did it so often! And still he would make fun of me. Another thing that I found so interesting about that video in watching it is that he kept looking at the camera, and there was no expression. NONE. It all felt so technical to me, you know what I mean? That REALLY bothered me. In one sense, it was a huge turn on, in another, it wasn’t at all. So now, what I think about is that someone else is going to “bring him out of his sexual shell”…I had lots of fantasies surrounding what I wanted to do with him, but I could not bring myself to do it. Many opportunities, but I just couldn’t. I often wonder where that was coming from. That fear was from the reality that I was giving my best self to him, but knew that the abuse would be soon forthcoming. I knew I would never escape it. How could I give myself to a man who only was using and hurting me? I’m really glad I didn’t go through the whole vibrator thing with him now. Woodrow, I’ve never been “Made love” to either. Not in the sense to which it should be. I don’t know what that’s like and I think I”m grieving that. I think that is a fear that further fuels my anxiety to which removes the reality of EVERYTHING that the relationship was when I focus on what he’s doing with this other woman and that somehow monkey sex would change his attitude about her or life in general. This has really called my own sexuality into question.
Oh sweetie, I don’t think you’re a slut LOL! If anyone could be that label given my status with the ex,it would be ME!! LOL!!! I completely understand why you would be sexual with others. I like Star’s gutts in doing Costa Rica man lol! I WISH I could be so daring! But I think for me, especially right now, I just don’t feel as good about myself sexually anymore and question my desirability because I’m 47 and gravity has taken it’s toll lol! Truthfully, I’m still very attractive and have a nice figure for someone who is 47 and having had six children. My ex use to tell me all the time, “you’re just pure hot”. Not that he believed that because the next love bomb was definitely different in body style than myself and ex’s ex wife. That’s when it dawned on me that it really didn’t matter to him. He wanted to be adored and I did adore him for a long time. But it didn’t matter what “she” looked like, but all the same, it’s still very painful thinking of him with someone else. Logically, I know that sex is merely an act and was just that for him. I’m working hard to keep in mind that the abuse out of bed, was the killer of any sexual desire I had in wanting to further pursue “sex play”. I’mnot sure that if I had it would have mattered anyway. I think I used sex as a measure to keep him drawn in too. I wanted to be the best so he’d not go anywhere or be with anyone else. It wasn’t just his sickness that took hold, it was mine too. I learned that sex was what men liked, wanted and that’s how you kept them interested, in wasn’t about who you are. I learned that from a very young age with multiple sexual molestations and later in my relationships with my ex P and then ex Spath. I overlooked the abuses inflicted upon me and focused on the sex and how to make each man happy. Ironically, two of my ex’s, from my first boyfriend, to my exP husband, both in the last year called out of the blue and during conversation told me,”You were the best sex I ever had”. Well, um, YEAH. But does this one think so? Probably not.
And I have to ask myself why it would even matter. Why the sex was such an important element. I think that that was the only way I felt loved and appreciated. Sad, isn’t it? If I wasn’t good at that, I was an utter failure when I had so many other things within my soul and heart to offer. Because when it comes right down to it, the sex is important, but self respect, respecting boundaries, etc, was more important. If I ever have sex again,it will be within the confines of a healthy, loving relationship, something that I may never know. I’m grieving that too. I love sex, but not enough now to degrade myself anymore. That’s progress for sure, but that stumbling block remains, just trying to figure out how to bring the balance of perception in so as to heal from all of that.
Isn’t this weird, Woodrow? Sharing on a wife/OW level LOL! Funny how God brings people together to promote more healing. These exchanges are so helpful to me too. I really appreciate you sharing what you have. It just goes to show that you can have monkey sex and in the end, it really doesn’t matter so much,huh?
I’m working VERY hard to get past this because it hurts.
I think you’re right in that it’s just going to take some time.
Thanks again, Woodrow! You’re quite the interesting woman!
LL
I was just trying to catch up on last nights posts. THANKS TO YOU ALL that made Jazzy feel comfortable here. Somewhere along the line she has lost that warm and fuzzy comfy feeling here. When you are “raw” some peoples overbearing/dominating personalities raise the anxiety level. That’s the last thing you need to deal with being “raw”. I know I felt the same way at one point. THIS IS NOT A JOB…. THERE IS NO PECKING ORDER!!!! Last time I checked… we are here voluntarily to share and find healing tools and maybe help another along the way. No reason for a person/persons to dominate/intimidate threads! There is not one of us that means more then the other. There is NOT a gold star for your forehead at the end of the day! We all have different things to offer without all of us the wheel would not be complete.
soimnotthecrazee1!
LL —
Go back and read everything you wrote to me yesterday. Just add the “sex” to the equation, and apply it to yourself. Like you told me, what he’s doing to the next one, is the same he did to you. Trust me, I’m sure with time she’ll feel like you did. And then guess what? its time for him to move on.
They don’t change. And NOTHING is going to satisfy them sexually, because they can’t feel like we do. They’ll just keep looking for that next high.
Too, being the OW, I don’t know how much time you spent with him. But my argument to my ex when I first learned about the OW is that he was living a fantasy life with her . . . he didn’t deal with the day-to-day responsibilities of kids, work, house, bills, etc. His time with the mistress was fun/sex. But as you well know, that can only last so long and reality settles in.
So in regard to my ex, his relationship with the OW has lasted longer with her than I expected . . . but, it was a long-distance relationship up until a month ago. We’ll see if they’re still hanging on this summer (but, then again — as you said — the MONEY may keep him longer than it should).
And, yes, I am an interesting woman 🙂 LOL . . . crazy sometimes! But ya do what ya gotta do!
S1 I couldn’t agree more.
Hens, Woodrow- I find it amazing that you could even find your exes on those sites. I would think that that alone would have been testament enough as to your exes insatiable sexual appetites. I never had proof that mine was on one and I only caught him on one dating site. I think he only chooses one target at a time and stays with that target awhile. I never had proof that he had more.
Hens.
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Woodrow, could ya just keep reminding me of that over and over? LOL!
After awhile, I wasn’t even fun, I was just sex. When it came down to spending more time with him, I got something different than what Ihad when I wasn’t with him often. I never got the “privilege” to live with him, but I got some ideas from the time I did spend with him. I didn’t get the focused attention that new gf does because I was old news at that point, but I did get some ideas. He was demanding, mean,demeaning, degrading, moody, raging, victimy. Blaming, shaming. I’m sure new love bomb is not seeing that rightnow. That’s part of the heartache,like I”m missing something. This is where your posts help so much. I thank you so much for sharing what you have with me with your insights. It is very helpful.
And yea, you are a very interesting woman! HIS LOSS!
Woodrow.
We saw each other everyday. At lunch. Everyday for nine years. Sometimes after work or rendevous he would try to create (didn’t go).
Somehow, I knew I was sex. I always felt he was giving his wife more. That she was getting something of him that I wasn’t…the kids, responsibilities, love, care, public sharing, family, friends sharing…that kind of stuff…….
And even when he became single, I wasn’t going to see that either.
It is a great source of heartache. And it was the hook of the promise that never evolved.
And I bet you that’s what your ex had his new gf hooked with too.
I think it’s the money. As I suspect with exPOS and his new gf too, as he’s highly indebt.
LL
LL .. it wasnt online or chatting.