Sooner or later, those of us who are romantically involved, or have been romantically involved, with sociopaths and other exploiters recognize that the relationship is bad for us and must end. Although we know this intellectually, often we still feel incredible attraction, even love, for the individual. How do we break the emotional attachment?
For example, Lovefraud recently received the following letter:
I am single, and I think I was with someone very narcissistic, if not outright sociopathic. The thing is, even though I am no longer with him (and he did not get to my finances), he broke my heart.
My question is, how do you get over him? I have tried to date others, but no man has compared with the chemistry and (you know, all the rest) that I had with the narcissist. I have a man now who truly loves me, and we are soul mates. I just don’t have that “sizzle” with him that I did with the one who was bad for me. Do you think I should “settle” for the good, honest man? I mean, I am attracted to him; it’s just not the mad passion like the narcissist brought out.
Many, many readers have told Lovefraud that getting over relationships with sociopaths (narcissists, etc.) is much more difficult than getting over other relationships that they’ve had. The reasons for this are complicated, and are rooted in both normal human psychology and the sociopath’s pathology.
The seduction
The first thing to understand is that sociopaths engage in seduction. This is significantly different from a normal dating relationship.
When two relatively healthy people begin dating, they are both testing the waters. They are spending time with each other to see if they like each other enough, or have enough in common, or get along well enough, to keep going. Yes, one party may be more interested than the other, but neither of them has made a decision.
In contrast, sociopaths purposely and consciously seduce their targets. They lavish the person with attention. They want to know everything about the target, they call and text constantly, they shower the person with gifts large and small. Sociopaths move fast, and quickly begin talking about love, commitment and marriage. This is called love bombing.
For most of us, the only experience we’ve ever had with this level of attention is in a fairytale. We are swept off our feet, caught up in the intensity, the magic, of Prince or Princess Charming. We’ve heard all those stories of “love at first sight,” and hope that it’s finally happened to us. We think it’s real.
Here’s what you need to understand: The sociopath’s extraordinary pursuit is never about love. It is about predation. You are or have something that the sociopath wants—at least for the moment. Despite what the sociopath says, his or her interest in you is not about building a relationship or future together. It’s about acquiring a possession.
The sex adventure
Sociopaths, both men and women, are hard-wired for sex. They have high levels of testosterone, and a strong appetite for stimulation. These two facts are probably responsible for the “animal magnetism” that we sense with them.
But that’s only the beginning. Sociopaths are often extraordinarily energetic and proficient lovers—at least technically. Because of their tremendous sexual appetite, they start young and have a lot of partners, so they quickly become experienced. And, because they have no shame, they feel no inhibitions. In fact, they frequently want to push their partners’ boundaries.
Is this passion? No—it’s boredom. Sociopaths quickly tire of the same old thing, and want new sexual adventures. Getting the target to go along with their desires offers two types of rewards: They enjoy new modes of stimulation. And, they manipulate the partners. This is especially fun if the partner initially resists the demands.
The sex connection
From Nature’s point of view, of course, the purpose of sex is propagation—the continuation of the human species. Nature wants children to survive, and the best chance of that happening is when parents stay together to care for them.
Therefore, sexual intimacy causes changes in the brain that contribute to bonding between the partners. One agent for doing this is oxytocin, a neurotransmitter sometimes called the “love hormone.”
Oxytocin is released during sexual orgasm, and, in women, in childbirth and nursing. According to Wikipedia, here’s what the hormone does:
Oxytocin evokes feelings of contentment, reductions in anxiety, and feelings of calmness and security around the mate. In order to reach full orgasm, it is necessary that brain regions associated with behavioral control, fear and anxiety are deactivated; which allows individuals to let go of fear and anxiety during sexual arousal. Many studies have already shown a correlation of oxytocin with human bonding, increases in trust, and decreases in fear.
So during sex, your brain is being flooded with calmness, trust and contentment, and fear and anxiety are alleviated. If you’re involved in a true loving and committed relationship, this contributes to bonding, which is fine and healthy.
Sociopaths, however, do not bond in the same way that healthy people do. Although we don’t know if oxytocin works differently in sociopaths, or perhaps doesn’t work at all, we do know that sociopaths are deficient in their ability to love. So while the healthy partner develops a love bond; the sociopath does not.
The addiction
A love bond is created by pleasure, and during the seduction phase of the relationship, the sociopath generates extreme pleasure for the target. However, addiction research has discovered that although pleasure is required to form a bond, pleasure is not required to maintain it. Even when a relationship starts to get rocky, normal people still feel bonded. Again, this is Nature’s way of keeping people together. If parents split up at the first sign of trouble, the survival of children would be in doubt.
Sooner or later, of course, relationships with sociopaths get rocky. Perhaps the sociopath engages in cheating, stealing or abuse. The sociopath’s actions create fear and anxiety in the target. But instead of driving the target away from the sociopath, anxiety and fear actually strengthen the psychological love bond.
So what do the targets do? They turn to the sociopaths for relief. The sociopaths may apologize profusely and promise to change their hurtful ways, reassuring the targets. The targets, feeling bonded to the sociopaths, want to believe the reassurances, so they do. Then the two people have sex, which reinforces the bond again.
From the target’s point of view, the relationship becomes a vicious circle of bonding, anxiety, fear, relief, sex and further bonding. The longer it goes on, the harder it is for the target to escape.
The result: For the target, the love bond becomes an addiction.
Vulnerability
How is this possible? How do targets get into this predicament?
Often, targets are primed for sociopathic relationships due to trauma that they have already experienced in their lives. As children, they may have suffered physical, emotional, psychological or sexual abuse from family members, authority figures or others. Or, the targets may have already experienced exploitative relationships, such as domestic violence, from which they have not recovered.
These abusive experiences create “trauma bonds.” As a result, abuse and exploitation feel normal to a target.
For healing to occur, targets need to look honestly into themselves and into their histories, finding the root of the issue. Was there a prior relationship that made you vulnerable to a sociopath?
Recovery
So, to answer the original question in the letter, how do you get over the sociopath?
First of all, you need to understand that what you are feeling is not chemistry or love. You are feeling addiction and a pathological love bond—the trauma bond.
Healing requires conscious effort. The book called The Betrayal Bond, by Patrick J. Carnes, Ph.D., is an excellent resource for doing this. Carnes writes:
Once a person has been part of our lives, the ripples remain, even though we have no further contact. In that sense a relationship continues even though we may consciously exorcise it from our conscious contact. Once you understand that principle, a shift will occur in all of your contact with others.
If the relationship was toxic, as in a traumatic bond, the relationship must go through a transformation, since it will always be with you. You do not need to be in contact with th person to change the nature of the relationship. You can change how you perceive it. You can change how it impacts you.
How do you do this? You commit to facing the reality of the relationship—all of it. Trauma tends to distort perception—you want to focus the good memories and forget about the bad ones. You must force yourself to deal with the truth of the experience—including the betrayal.
If you’re still feeling the tug of the pathological relationship, The Betrayal Bond includes information and exercises that can help you break free. The book is available in the Lovefraud Store. (My book, Love Fraud, describes an alternative path to recovery.)
And to the Lovefraud letter-writer: Do not confuse drama with love. Accepting a good, honest man is not “settling.” It is the foundation of a healthy relationship.
You can move forward.
One,
VERY good point and you might just be onto something here!!!
Something I’m seeing VERY clearly, about a lot of things, is how he tried to sabotage every good thing I was doing. If it was for myself, he would get WORSE! And even if I DID what he demanded me to do, it was NEVER good enough. He SAID he supported my efforts to become independent and what a “turn on” this was for him, but then the very next DAY he’d be all over my ass about not coming out when HE wanted me too!! Or he would say/do something that would just crush me mid effort.
I felt like I was literally being crushed. I couldn’t take anymore of it. I was so frustrated and tired. I literally felt like he wanted to DESTROY me!! At every single turn!!!! The projections were amazing, “You’re an alcoholic” I remember hearing this VERY early in the relationshit and I WAS NOT YET, HE WAS. But not having been intimate with him very long, new to the whole wine MO thing, this WOUNDED me deeply!!! I don’t know why this just came up for me, but when you said your ex would say you’re this or that, it’s true, mine did it to me too.
Okay, so here is my mental block. I know that I’d like to have (Someday) a relationship with someone that is healthy. Obviously I’m nowhere NEAR healthy at the moment, so another relationship now would be ridiculous. My radar is WAY off. That scares me enough NOT to try again at the moment.
There IS something to this idea that somehow he’s wasn’t that bad, can somehow change. WHERE does this come from? WITHIN ME? The times I’ve felt MOST at peace, is when I trust that my experience with him was truth about him, all the rotten things he did to me, that he hasn’t and won’t change. Why is this so hard for me to integrate?
There IS something to this. I remember feeling this way about my Spathy daddy and my spathy sis. I saw them as GOD-LIKE figures. They knew ALL and it was ME that was inherently bad. It is the EXACT same feeling! The frustration in trying to win their love and approval is also the EXACT same way I’ve felt with exPOS. It didn’t matter what I did, ALL of them scapegoated me. It didn’t matter what I did or tried to do that was good, they would sabotage me. I think my spirit just gave up with all the pummeling…..that somehow with so many that hated me, sabotaged me, hurt me, didn’t keep me safe, I BELIEVED that I was worthless, therefore, my choices were too from then on out. No one believed a word I said when I did try to protect myself. This also makes sense in my reactions to exPOS’s first love bomb that I found out about and my having tortured the poor woman. I was AFRAID she would not believe me, or that she somehow didn’t, when she really did. It was CRAZY on my part. But I think it comes from that place of disbelief. These are HUGE revelations for me. I feel the same way going outside of my home now and seeing spath, the same way I did about my bio fam. Shame. Stupid. He is God. I’m shit. Just like they were. They had the goods on me (the good stuff they knew of me) and exploited every single word or action. He did too.
I feel very sad from all of that, as well as very tired. I literally felt like I was fighting for my life and have been, all of my life….
I’m examining my own behavior. How I’m reacting or not reacting and see that it’s so disjointed. I reacted badly to her and I reacted badly to his ex wife too when I told her what was going on awhile ago. I just wanted to be believed, that the things I said about him, were the truth. They already know/knew who he is. But it was me that wasn’t convinced. Even though he was evil to the core. He held a position of authority over me for a long time, professionally and personally, as did my bio fam. Another thing to note, as the relationshit was coming to an end this last year, on and off, I FOUGHT him, on EVERYTHING. Everything he did or said that was negative, turned into a screaming match at him. The audacity to which he tried to pull shit on me or tell me who I was, pissed me off all the more. I wasn’t taking it, even though I was still involved in it. I wonder now if that wasn’t symbolic of my trying to take my power back from ALL of those who had taken it away. Just a thought.
Interesting stuff to ponder and the similarities are a bit uncanny.
LL
LL, didn’t it boggle your mind sometimes how someone could treat you horribly, but still continue to request your presence? i think that is part of where i am stuck. so many mixed messages.
i definitely miss what i had hoped would be, not what actually was. i was thinking today, how nice would it be if i still had a boyfriend on this chilly day, we could cuddle up and watch a movie and that would be so nice. But that was NEVER who he was, that never would’ve happened. i miss something i never had with him, so i cant figure out why that feeling is attached to him.
maybe im not far enough out of the fog either, it hasnt been quite a month yet, and its only been a week without contact (he decided after a couple weeks that he was going to return some things of mine. he arrived in tears and again my feelings for him just overwhelmed me).
i struggle with the fact that he ended it, not me.
i have a hard time thinking he is “bad”, because in the end, he was “doing me a favor”. He said he had to leave because he realized how badly he had hurt me, that he didn’t want to be responsible for hurting someone who had been nothing but kind and understanding to him. He exprsesed feelings he never showed me while we were together. (and then throwing in a nice “i dont think i could love you anyway, because you obviously don’t love yourself enough and i dont believe you think you are a good person”) He showed me everything i wanted to see, and then ran away, leaving me to figure out what happened and why, what did i do wrong? why couldn’t he just stop the abusive behavior if he felt so awful for it? He acknowledged that he had done the same to his exwife, humiliated her (also hit her, and took everything from her) He told me he is insane, irreparably broken, and that he will never be able to give me as much as i have to give him. so why do i still so desperately want it??? i continually have the feeling of being way too smart to be going through this, but here i am.
i struggle with the fact that i didn’t want it to end, even though i KNEW it was unhealthy. i forgave everything hurtful he ever did to me, when i KNEW i shouldn’t have. i KNOW i deserve better.
love to this person will never be what love is to me. this roller coaster isn’t one i wanted to get on, but for some reason i ran to the front of the line.
i hope being here, reading all of this information and others experiences, will help me understand how to forgive myself for giving him a chance, and will help me see better things ahead.
LL,
I experienced the same thing all my life: sabotage. Even when I didn’t actually know it was happening, I DID notice the pattern – I thought it was continual coincidence FOR 25 YEARS! – GOD, I’m stupid, but then who could imagine anyone would do suff like that?
For example, I learned to not tell anyone when I have an appointment. because if I did, somehting would happen to trip it up. The clock would get unplugged or an emergency would happen. ALWAYS SOMETHING! At the time, it seemed like I was engaging in magical thinking, like when you are a kid and believe stepping on a crack is bad luck. BUT IT ALWAYS WORKED! If I said nothihg about my plans, if I hid my goals, I would accomplish them. But if I said anything, BOOM. Now, of course I know the real reason: spath was actively, planning every single day to destroy EVERY little plan , hope or dream I might have. Even something as simple as getting the garbage to the curb on fridays – he actively employed the neighbors and my sister to call me around noon and distract me, so I would forget. This started after i told him how much I hated to miss the garbage collection and I had made a big deal about it. I know it sounds paranoid, because I mean, who the hell would do something like that? A SPATH WOULD.
That’s why I am always telling everyone here that when dealing with a spath, WE MUST MISDIRECT THEM. So they use their energies sabotaging something that doesn’t matter.
But anyway, the sad consequence of living like that for 25 years and not realizing it until the last few months, is that I still retain the old habits of not telling people what is important to me. I can trust no one to not sabotage my plans.
It makes me sit and do nothing rather than reveal, by my actions, what is important to me. I fear sabotage.
I’ve been slowly spirallying downward on so many things, so today I took 1/2 a lexapro and next week I’m going to start therapy.
greenbean
That DID happen with me and exPOS. The watching movies together and all, MAYBE A FEW TIMES!! But there was something so awful about it when it did happen. I can’t explain to you what that was, but it was just awful. Whenever we laid there on the couch, and he’d “Hold” me it felt TOO TIGHT! He was just stiff as a board. It bothered me. I felt so uncomfortable I was afraid to breathe. It’s so funny when I think back on that now. I never EVER felt comfortable lying around with him. EVER. It’s so different when you can just lie around and be yourself. At first he gave the impression that this was possible, but it became so clear after at time that it was not, so in thinking about this, all I can come up with is that the reason all of it felt so fake and unreal was because HE was fake and unreal. THERE WAS NO EMOTIONS. How can you really hold someone close and be comfortable when you know that you may just move wrong or say something that will get no response or a rage attack? It was just AWFUL!
Just awful. The whole time
You do deserve better greenbean. Better than that. Always.
LL
Sky,
Yep, sounds familiar. I didn’t live with my spath, but I was dealt enough sabotage to see that he would have totally destroyed me had I allowed my relationshit with him to go on. Ten years was long enough but I guess I should thank my lucky stars I DID NOT live with the man. SEriously, skylar, I’d probably be dead. I would have drank myself to death, all the while he’s provoking it, encouraging it, while calling me alcoholic and no good while he himself was one. I would have DIED from it had I not gotten out. I was SCARED to DEATH about my usage. He said he supported me NOT drinking, I told him let’s stop together because he kept accusing me of being a drunk, yet when it came down to show time, I STOPPED AND HE KEPT GOING!!!! He NEVER had intentions to stop drinking. EVER.
That was a major hook he thought he had to me. He was totally delusional and predicted incorrectly. Asshole.
I have a therapist now, sky. I hope the meds work for you. I’m not going down medication row yet, preferring to work with my therapist first to see if that’s necessary. I am on anti anxiety meds however to ease the anxiety a bit.
Let me know how your therapy goes???
LL
WOODROW!! WHERE ARE YOU ????
LL – good work! you are seeing the patterns. 🙂
it is hard to go against god(S) when all you want is to be valued, believed, loved. if we tryyyyyyyyyyyyy hard enough god(s) may just love us and protect us. if we don’t they won’t. if we call them evil they won’t. if we don’t please them they won’t. you see, all of these things have one thing in common: they WON’T REALLY LOVE US. AND, IT’S NOT ABOUT US! IT’S THEM. THEY ARE FUCKED!!
of course you were fighting back against the pantheon of gods, it’s often what we do when we access the power of anger that comes from setting boundaries with a resounding, ‘NO’! you finally got to a place where you drew the line. but i don’t think it was symbolic, it was concrete!
We have to build our esteem. we have to figure out how to do this. This, is part of the script i live also, ‘The frustration in trying to win their love and approval is also the EXACT same way I’ve felt with exPOS. It didn’t matter what I did, ALL of them scapegoated me. ‘ i have been working on the scapegoating part for a while now. I absofreakinglutley refuse to play. I find I run into this most often in my working life, but also in other areas.
today, i think i can finally start journalling about the spath. I haven’t been able to. I needed to write here, but i think i can begin to write now, after a year of posting. i can look at the details – things i can’t go into online- and ask my puzzle piece questions of myself.
it took me a lot of work to get all the ‘characters’ and the true personality, the spath, to hang together as ONE entity – one lying sack of shit evil *c* spath, and to get over my love for a person who never existed. i have spent the last 15 months in orange alert survival mode. I am not downgrading that status. now i can start to dismantle the spath story at a different level. it’s progress. we are all making progress.
you could try making a list of ALL of the things he said you were, and all the things he said other people were – and see how many of them are actually what he IS.
sky – need i point out that you do tell us some of what is important to you? you do have some trust in us.
i am sorry that you are spiraling down. you are dealing with a lot and i think finding out that the abuse goes back decades is just fucking exhausting and disenheartening. you are taking the actions you need to to get help. sounds like a hard time, but i trust you to figure out, and do what’s best for you. you are one smart cookie and committed to your healing.
i think a lot about your advice for dealing with spaths. i have an n landlord, who has a whacked wife – don’t even know what she is, but i need to deal with them in an ongoing way. so, i will think about ‘redirecting’ and how i can employ that with their sorry butts.
hold you chin up sky, you’ll remember who you are more easily that way.
Guys,
I need some advice.
I’m really struggling with depression. My house is an absolute disaster. I’ve had no motivation to deal with it all. I have all of this shit in my head twenty four seven. I’m finding it difficult, if not impossible to keep up with my studies. I’m grieving and hurting. I have so much work to do on myself, I feel exhausted from trying.
I’m in therapy and addressing some health issues. I think my PTSD is really bad right now. Part of me doesn’t want to give up school, but part of me says I need too. This will be the THIRD blasted time I’ve had to bail out on school for personal/physical reasons the last two years. It’s a pattern now and not a pleasant one. I did very well last term and was very focused. This term,I can’t focus at all. It feels like an added burden and I’m very depressed about it. I don’t know what I want to do anymore and I owe thousands now, over at least a hundred thousand for student loans.
I feel like I need to either drop another class or be honest with my instructors with why I’m behind. I don’t know how to do that either, because it would mean revealing things about myself and situation that I’m not comfortable doing thinking I will be pegged as emotionally “unstable” which could jeopardize any career that I want to pursue. I would try to go back in the Spring, just not sure what to do.
Please advise.
LL
“My therapist told me every time you think of him.picture the man of your dreams in action.treating you nice.
Focus on that you will draw that to you.”
Good advice. 6 months after my x-spath, I met the most incredible guy. There were issues of distance and any (he was too young) but with Nicolay there were no games, no dramas, no manipulations, no lies. Nicolay loved and wanted to be with me.
Funny though, I never felt the same way about him as I did the x-spath. The question I have is why do I seem to associate love and hurt?
In addition, to me Nicolay seemed too perfect. Cute, intelligent, hard-working, expressive. Somehow, I felt that I could not relate to Nicolay, that I would relate better to somebody like the x-spath, who had been out on the gay scene and who, just like myself had troubles with relationships and troubles with depression.
I know the answer to some of this, my own insecurities. With the x-spath, I was merely willing to “settle” for less than what I ordinarily would have because went I met the x-spath, I had a lot of issues in my life.
Part of my therapy was to keep pictures of Nicolay with me. Any time I found myself thinking about the x-spath, I look at pictures of Nicolay.
I also go over the list in my mind of what the x-spath did to me and in the long run, the favor he did to my by dumping me when I unmasked him.
Virtually every time we were together in that short relationship, except for one or two dates, the x-spath did something to sabotage intimacy. One night while he slept, I remember even saying to him “you are so nice to me on the phone, why are you so cold to me in person…”
If my x-spath is like that with somebody he just met, I can imagine the hell he could put somebody through in a longer “relationship.”
lessonlearned, do everything you need to do to make yourself feel stable. Do not feel pressured to take on all these obligations, explain to your professors if need be, drop a class if need be. There is no reason to overwork yourself. It will be better in the long run if you give yourself a break now to work on yourself and take a breather.