Sooner or later, those of us who are romantically involved, or have been romantically involved, with sociopaths and other exploiters recognize that the relationship is bad for us and must end. Although we know this intellectually, often we still feel incredible attraction, even love, for the individual. How do we break the emotional attachment?
For example, Lovefraud recently received the following letter:
I am single, and I think I was with someone very narcissistic, if not outright sociopathic. The thing is, even though I am no longer with him (and he did not get to my finances), he broke my heart.
My question is, how do you get over him? I have tried to date others, but no man has compared with the chemistry and (you know, all the rest) that I had with the narcissist. I have a man now who truly loves me, and we are soul mates. I just don’t have that “sizzle” with him that I did with the one who was bad for me. Do you think I should “settle” for the good, honest man? I mean, I am attracted to him; it’s just not the mad passion like the narcissist brought out.
Many, many readers have told Lovefraud that getting over relationships with sociopaths (narcissists, etc.) is much more difficult than getting over other relationships that they’ve had. The reasons for this are complicated, and are rooted in both normal human psychology and the sociopath’s pathology.
The seduction
The first thing to understand is that sociopaths engage in seduction. This is significantly different from a normal dating relationship.
When two relatively healthy people begin dating, they are both testing the waters. They are spending time with each other to see if they like each other enough, or have enough in common, or get along well enough, to keep going. Yes, one party may be more interested than the other, but neither of them has made a decision.
In contrast, sociopaths purposely and consciously seduce their targets. They lavish the person with attention. They want to know everything about the target, they call and text constantly, they shower the person with gifts large and small. Sociopaths move fast, and quickly begin talking about love, commitment and marriage. This is called love bombing.
For most of us, the only experience we’ve ever had with this level of attention is in a fairytale. We are swept off our feet, caught up in the intensity, the magic, of Prince or Princess Charming. We’ve heard all those stories of “love at first sight,” and hope that it’s finally happened to us. We think it’s real.
Here’s what you need to understand: The sociopath’s extraordinary pursuit is never about love. It is about predation. You are or have something that the sociopath wants—at least for the moment. Despite what the sociopath says, his or her interest in you is not about building a relationship or future together. It’s about acquiring a possession.
The sex adventure
Sociopaths, both men and women, are hard-wired for sex. They have high levels of testosterone, and a strong appetite for stimulation. These two facts are probably responsible for the “animal magnetism” that we sense with them.
But that’s only the beginning. Sociopaths are often extraordinarily energetic and proficient lovers—at least technically. Because of their tremendous sexual appetite, they start young and have a lot of partners, so they quickly become experienced. And, because they have no shame, they feel no inhibitions. In fact, they frequently want to push their partners’ boundaries.
Is this passion? No—it’s boredom. Sociopaths quickly tire of the same old thing, and want new sexual adventures. Getting the target to go along with their desires offers two types of rewards: They enjoy new modes of stimulation. And, they manipulate the partners. This is especially fun if the partner initially resists the demands.
The sex connection
From Nature’s point of view, of course, the purpose of sex is propagation—the continuation of the human species. Nature wants children to survive, and the best chance of that happening is when parents stay together to care for them.
Therefore, sexual intimacy causes changes in the brain that contribute to bonding between the partners. One agent for doing this is oxytocin, a neurotransmitter sometimes called the “love hormone.”
Oxytocin is released during sexual orgasm, and, in women, in childbirth and nursing. According to Wikipedia, here’s what the hormone does:
Oxytocin evokes feelings of contentment, reductions in anxiety, and feelings of calmness and security around the mate. In order to reach full orgasm, it is necessary that brain regions associated with behavioral control, fear and anxiety are deactivated; which allows individuals to let go of fear and anxiety during sexual arousal. Many studies have already shown a correlation of oxytocin with human bonding, increases in trust, and decreases in fear.
So during sex, your brain is being flooded with calmness, trust and contentment, and fear and anxiety are alleviated. If you’re involved in a true loving and committed relationship, this contributes to bonding, which is fine and healthy.
Sociopaths, however, do not bond in the same way that healthy people do. Although we don’t know if oxytocin works differently in sociopaths, or perhaps doesn’t work at all, we do know that sociopaths are deficient in their ability to love. So while the healthy partner develops a love bond; the sociopath does not.
The addiction
A love bond is created by pleasure, and during the seduction phase of the relationship, the sociopath generates extreme pleasure for the target. However, addiction research has discovered that although pleasure is required to form a bond, pleasure is not required to maintain it. Even when a relationship starts to get rocky, normal people still feel bonded. Again, this is Nature’s way of keeping people together. If parents split up at the first sign of trouble, the survival of children would be in doubt.
Sooner or later, of course, relationships with sociopaths get rocky. Perhaps the sociopath engages in cheating, stealing or abuse. The sociopath’s actions create fear and anxiety in the target. But instead of driving the target away from the sociopath, anxiety and fear actually strengthen the psychological love bond.
So what do the targets do? They turn to the sociopaths for relief. The sociopaths may apologize profusely and promise to change their hurtful ways, reassuring the targets. The targets, feeling bonded to the sociopaths, want to believe the reassurances, so they do. Then the two people have sex, which reinforces the bond again.
From the target’s point of view, the relationship becomes a vicious circle of bonding, anxiety, fear, relief, sex and further bonding. The longer it goes on, the harder it is for the target to escape.
The result: For the target, the love bond becomes an addiction.
Vulnerability
How is this possible? How do targets get into this predicament?
Often, targets are primed for sociopathic relationships due to trauma that they have already experienced in their lives. As children, they may have suffered physical, emotional, psychological or sexual abuse from family members, authority figures or others. Or, the targets may have already experienced exploitative relationships, such as domestic violence, from which they have not recovered.
These abusive experiences create “trauma bonds.” As a result, abuse and exploitation feel normal to a target.
For healing to occur, targets need to look honestly into themselves and into their histories, finding the root of the issue. Was there a prior relationship that made you vulnerable to a sociopath?
Recovery
So, to answer the original question in the letter, how do you get over the sociopath?
First of all, you need to understand that what you are feeling is not chemistry or love. You are feeling addiction and a pathological love bond—the trauma bond.
Healing requires conscious effort. The book called The Betrayal Bond, by Patrick J. Carnes, Ph.D., is an excellent resource for doing this. Carnes writes:
Once a person has been part of our lives, the ripples remain, even though we have no further contact. In that sense a relationship continues even though we may consciously exorcise it from our conscious contact. Once you understand that principle, a shift will occur in all of your contact with others.
If the relationship was toxic, as in a traumatic bond, the relationship must go through a transformation, since it will always be with you. You do not need to be in contact with th person to change the nature of the relationship. You can change how you perceive it. You can change how it impacts you.
How do you do this? You commit to facing the reality of the relationship—all of it. Trauma tends to distort perception—you want to focus the good memories and forget about the bad ones. You must force yourself to deal with the truth of the experience—including the betrayal.
If you’re still feeling the tug of the pathological relationship, The Betrayal Bond includes information and exercises that can help you break free. The book is available in the Lovefraud Store. (My book, Love Fraud, describes an alternative path to recovery.)
And to the Lovefraud letter-writer: Do not confuse drama with love. Accepting a good, honest man is not “settling.” It is the foundation of a healthy relationship.
You can move forward.
Blue,
You say he sabotaged intimacy. Were you sexual with him during this time too? It sounds a lot like what my spathy would do to me.
Hello all,
I’d like to run by you (and vent) a fear/anxiety that’s crept up.
In final part of divorce, estranged for almost 3 yrs (Apr ’08). Just started seeing a nice man. Visited him all day yesterday–a bit of driving distance. Now that I like this person, I have a looming sense of disaster coming from soon to be ex.
My D. knows as I want to be honest when I go out or come home late. I can’t have her “swear to secrecy”–she may or may not tell her dad. If he finds out, I fear he’ll retaliate/ be vindictive legally. And I fear that whatever “progress” I made legally through my lawyer and the court, may be “ten steps back” if he gets jealous/angry. He used to stalk my garage and look in to see if my car was in, if I was home–suggesting possessiveness.
I fear that bec. of my dating, he can make the legal process/settlement even harder.
I don’t know if I’m irrational–to think that I need to put my life on hold even more than 3 yrs–just to avoid upsetting him or to avoid retaliation.
I’ve been seeing this man only 3 weeks.
Any experiences like this, suggestions?
Behind blue eyes,
Sorry I didn’t respond sooner.. This weekend was a crazy busy! N and I wanted to respond fully and well to you so here it is..
Did you read my full story? What did you think of it? Do you consider my professor a spath? I wasn’t exactly victimized in the same way many people here are” but I was LURED into the relationship, and when it ended (because of my family) it left me confused, feeling guilty and lost! I kept thinking she was this great person who wanted nothing but g ood things for me” but really.. she didn’t. That blindness completely consumed me and took over me. My relationship with my spath was only 6 months but left me feeling so confused. People here on LF really OPENED My eyes and told me WTF ARE U DOING WITH HER? SHE IS MENTALLY DESTROYING YOU. And she was. I just had to accept that. No she didn’t take money from me” she took the most important thing from me. Myself. She took that away and I am still working on gaining it back. And I will. My issue was that I kept wanting to go back to her. People here on LF really saved me and stopped me in doing so. They helped me in ways I will never forget.
My spath told me her childhood was miserable” and I believed that and still do. But that gave her no right to purposely emotionally damage me. Your spath sounds very much like mine. Mentally ill and pathological liar. BIG RED FLAG. Your spath sounds like he uses his looks and body to his fullest advantage.. you need to get away and stay away. I completely understand what you mean aabotu them only shaving if they were having sex. Understand, he was cheating on you. Believe it because its true.
Big thing I learned thought this whole process (and people here on LF told me I would learn this in the end, I didn’t believe them at the time, I do now). Is that I NEED TO WORK ON ME. I was insecure and my spath used that against me. She said things nice things to me but only to use me. I wont let anyone do that anymore. Behind blue, please sum your story up for me once more. I am a bit confused. I want to help you but I don’t know what to say exactly” so I want to hear your full story!
LL…..When I went into my PTSD, shock, in June of 2009, I told myself…”2b, you were just through a trauma. You need to pamper yourself to get through. I swear, I would wake up in the morning…and sit on this laptop in my kitchen…after the girls went to school…and I did NOTHING but read, post on here, read, talk to my neighbor, (the only one who listened). I ate whatever I felt like…donuts…nothing….I didn’t care about my weight…the dishes sat in the sink for DAYS as I sat here staring at them. I explained to my girls that I was going through something and needed some help to clean up. I didn’t shower for 2 days…had to force myself to jump in the hottub…I just went hour by hour and didn’t care. I forced myself to pay bills…to just do anything. And, all along, I said….THIS TOO SHALL PASS…but it IS what it IS right now.
I am in SHOCK and I need to do WHATEVER IT TAKES to process things and get THROUGH this.
I listened to music loudly…I read …I took a bike ride with my chiuauhua in my basket….when I could force myself to get out…sunglasses on….didn’t want to talk to anyone.
This lasted for over a month.
So, right now, if you need to just CHILL….give yourself the liberty to do so. You cannot expect to just continue life as usual. You have just been traumatized!!
I remember years ago…I was 27. I was a teacher, owned my own home..was a Rebecca Demornay lookalike (from Risky Business)….had it all. I got involved with a 20 yr old neighbor…friends..with benefits. When he told me that he has a “problem”..”I am a pathological liar” he told me. I ended it…and I fell apart. Missed him..friendship and affection and sex. I HAD to end it. I knew he was too young..etc.
Well, I couldn’t get out from under my covers!!! I called in sick to my teaching job. I was literally in bed for a week. My sister stopped over…worried and she literally grabbed my arm and threw me into the shower…clothes on and all!!!
I went to a psychiatrist who put me on meds..to get me out.
I went back to work and got through it.
(BTW, he IS a socio…found out from other women)
So, it was situational depression. I moved on and met another sociopath!!!
Funny, everytime I met one…and I attracted all the really good looking charmers back then, since I was so pretty…(didn’t know it at the time….stupid me)….but when I met one…I would say…He reminds me of the last one…
DUH!!! I was attracting all of the same types!!!! The hot guys…the charmers….the liars.
Even when I met this recent xbf…from hello, he reminded me of one of my x’s….a cold socio.
Yes, I was the queen of socio magnets. I swore, the next guy that I get involved with would NOT be good looking, charming..etc. And, this last one was SO different than the rest..He wasn’t that great looking,,…not the usual type I was attracted to….was even a different race than me!!!!
BUT….give yourself a break. Its like you were just in a car crash..you are in shock…BE GOOD TO YOURSELF.
I took a 2 mile walk today in the 10 degree weather and a 3 mile bike ride after!!!
My clean laundry is staring at me right now…and guess what…the queens not coming tonite!!! LOL
I AM the queen bee now. I will NEVER get duped again. In fact, I will save a lot of people from doing what I did…..
especially my girls!
I wake up every morning and think of ten things I am grateful for…healthy children..MY health…warm home…good friends…LF….you guys….still good skin..lol…
And, I know that someday I will meet a GOOD decent honest man.
tobe,
My house is a DISASTER! I’m a clean freak by nature, but I have no desire,motivation, nothing. It seems that when someone gets this depressed, people do a freak out. I can’t have the freak out right now. I’m in sooooooooooooo much pain. I’m so frustrated with it too. I want to be able to focus on school and concentrate, but I can’t. My mind wanders and I’m not integrating the information like i should, yet I survive on loans don’t work, etc etc. So I’m screwed more as a result of all of this.
So I push harder, get more frustrated, more depressed…..I think you see where I’m going with this.
I’m taking the steps I need to take to move forward. I’m not a big anti depressant person. I”ve taken MANY before and they either didn’t work or I got very sick on them. The one that DID work was black labeled several years ago and doc took me off those too because I was getting sick on them.
I don’t think there is anyway to not go through the pain. I feel completely traumatized by all of this. Completely.
I’m anxious to see my therapist again on Wednesday so I can walk through some decisions that I need to make. I have health issues that I’m dealing with now as well.
This is VERY frustrating to me.
LL
DW,
I absolutely hate to give you this advice but you may have to be less than honest with your D. Just until it’s over. That is the way it is with spaths, discretion is an absolute necessity.
LL,
I know what you are going through. It’s been 18 months for me and I think about this crap 24/7. Their is a feeling of urgency to hurry up and heal so I can get on with my life, and until then, I’m NOT GETTING ON WITH MY LIFE. It’s because I know that I made mistakes based on my old wounds, so I want to fix them so as not to waste time making the same mistakes. This isn’t so much a conscious decision as much as it is a symptom of PTSD. It’s my way of being on high alert for spaths, and learning all about them., it’s a survival mechanism. The problem is that the brain can’t take on any other tasks and I’m failing to do the more physically productive things, like renting out my house. Perhaps Erin B can advise us. She seems to take it all on and not miss a beat.
One Joy/Step, thank you for pointing that out. LF is the only place where I do let my real self show. It’s ironic that I only feel safe with people who don’t know my real name, or who I am. Thanks for your confidence in me, it helps to hear. I should have gotten therapy months ago. It took this long to realized that I need it for the abuse my parents caused me. They are 75 and 70 y.o. and they need therapy too because they know that they abused us simply because they were abused. What they don’t know is that they MUST become angry and outraged about it, or they won’t heal or change their patterns. If they can’t be angry about the physical and psychological abuse they suffered, then they should be angry about how that abuse, by their parents, ultimately destroyed their children’s futures. 2 kids are spaths and I am crippled. Only one has given them grandchildren.
I came here to LF to learn about spaths and now I’m learning about child abuse. Life goes in circles, doesn’t it?
this link has good articles about anger and child abuse.
http://www.alice-miller.com/articles_en.php?lang=en&nid=54&grp=11
“You say he sabotaged intimacy. Were you sexual with him during this time too? It sounds a lot like what my spathy would do to me.”
Lesson Learned;
Other than sleep over and “heavy petting” no. We had decided to take things slowly, both from a mutual desire not to repeat both our previous mistakes of jumping into bed too soon, but from a practical problem on my part. I was very, very sick. Unknown to me, I was suffering from Hepatitis and while I was seeing him, I also developed a case of shingles. I was under huge stress, lost a lot of weight and had constant stomach problems. So, you can see from my point of view why I might not be very sexual.
He was playing this “innocent” game to hide that he was HIV+. Thus, I take him a “Sex and the City” restaurant that he actually hints at in the personal ad I posted above and walks out on me when I simply asked him if he wanted to go back to my apartment after dinner. Outside, he told me “I offended his British reservedness…” Erm, keep in mind this is coming from a 35 year-old flight attendant.
He also because angry at me for burning too many candles “you could burn this place down…” Other stuff like we talked about looking forward to Xmas and about each of us buying a tree, something neither of us had done in years. My tree was a live Norfolk Pine. He looked at it and said “where did you get that Charlie Brown tree from.”
What I never told him was I picked that tree because it reminded me of him. Not the biggest, a little rough around the edges but I figured with a little TLC it would be OK, just like him…
Sends me a text how much he is looking forward to going out with me again the next night and then when I meet him he is standing out front, smoking a cigarette and does not even give me a hug.
So, on the phone, emails, texts, he is completely charming. In person, cold as ice. I gave him slack because I had never dated a British guy before.
Behind blue eyes,
that is so interesting the way you describe his treatment of you. My BF and I went to a social networking conference and were talking with some people at the after party, last summer.
there was this handsome guy, dressed casually, but I think it was the shoes that told me he was a narcissist. They were pointy italian loafers and didn’t go with the jeans. Then I saw how he was treating my BF: he would talk to him intensely for a couple of minutes and then pointedly ignore him, then rinse and repeat. I told my BF, that is a spath! But BF didn’t see it, he really liked the guy and was impressed by his “entourage” of yes-men that followed him around. Finally my BF noticed. That is typical spath behavior to mess with your self esteem: get you excited with their charisma and then make you feel unworthy. Apparently your self-esteem was high enough that it didn’t work. You realized that there was nothing wrong with you, it was him that was weird, but you thought it was because he was british. LOL.
sky – ‘That is typical spath behavior to mess with your self esteem: get you excited with their charisma and then make you feel unworthy.’
this, done ever so sublty is what the spath did. well, subtle until the D+D. it was tiny little slices into my skin, so small as to be almost imperceptible. and then the salt.
in the final D+D, she used one of the nasty characters to spray me with salt. but she miscalculated. terribly. i don’t take shit from nasty people. only the kind ones. while what she did as him was shocking and horrid, the hysteronics didn’t hurt me – i wasn’t invested.
the crap behavior from the other 2 nasty characters, scared and intimidated me – but didn’t touch my heart after the fake boy was fake dead. only while he was alive did i have any reason to listen to the shit of the nasty bf. after fake boy was fake dead, i pretty quickly shut down that nonsense. only while i thought the nasty bf could keep the fake boy from me did i care.
the nasty bf did that give me attn and then disappear thing. it did unbalance me, but again i wasn’t heart invested in him. it did however make me wonder about ‘his’ anger levels. during this last year i figured she would disappear him at times because she didn’t realize that people who were going through what we were would bond in some way, and on other occasions i figured she just didn’t know that a normal person would have certain expectations in some situations – ’cause she’s not normal, and therefore didn’t act accordingly. while it was happening it just left me on edge, off balance and bewildered. would be interesting to know how much of it was manipulation and how much was spathic fuck-ups.
oh lordy, i hope i haven’t just been confusing with all the he/her/ blah blah. 🙂 i wish i could just name them all – then i could talk about them.
about the shoes – European men dress like that all the time – jeans and good loafers. That wouldn’t be a flag to me at all.
One,
Yes, I’ve seen the pointy shoe/jeans-look elsewhere too. It didn’t yell spath, but it did tell me that this person was very much into projecting a certain appearance. And it worked, on everyone but me because of my spath-radar. Then his behavior was the confirmation. Shoes say a lot.
Your spath is really the ultimate “People of the Lie” ! She was so addicted to lying that she made up dozens of people, just so she could lie more. When you pretend to be one person, you can only tell so many stories, but if you are 10 people, you can tell ten times as many! SICK, SICK, SICK.