Lovefraud recently received the following email:
I suspected that my ex boyfriend was a sociopath, but your website confirmed it. I always thought that sociopaths were murderers like Ted Bundy or Casey Anthony, but I realize now that the vast majority lead “normal” lives (whatever that means).
I’m a divorced mom with a precious little daughter. My ex boyfriend was the first man I dated after a long and abusive marriage to an alcoholic. I was with my ex boyfriend a little over 2 years, although he exhibited signs of sociopathic (or what I considered narcissistic) behavior, including chronic infidelity, pathological lying, a grandiose sense of self, a total lack of empathy (particularly towards his five children whom he rarely saw), a lack of responsibility, impulsivity, etc. You get the picture.
Fortunately, he didn’t bilk me out of money, but, unfortunately, he completely drained me emotionally to the point where I feel like I will never be able to find or love a truly good, healthy man. I am a strong woman, though, and I know this feeling will subside over time. ”¨”¨After reading through your website, I’m 100% positive I will never see or speak to my ex boyfriend again.
The last time I saw him, he told me he was going on a secret mission trip and that he could not talk to me for at least two weeks, but that he would spend the holidays with me. I threw him out of my apartment that night, but I continued to email him while he was away on his important, “James Bond” business trip. To make a long story short, I found out that he was with another woman in a foreign country. I was not surprised by this discovery and, perhaps, it is a blessing in disguise that I found out. It strengthened my resolve to have no contact with him, as your website suggests.
My question to you is how do I forgive myself for staying in this relationship so long even though I routinely saw the signs of his sociopathic behavior? Most importantly, how do I forgive myself for putting my daughter in harm’s way by being with this creep? Finally, would it be best if I stayed away from dating for a period of time so that I can clear my brain of this whole ordeal?
I’ll address the reader’s questions one at a time.
How do I forgive myself?
We cannot blame ourselves for what we didn’t know. And all of us who have been targeted didn’t know about sociopaths, about what they really are and how they really behave.
Here’s what we all believed that is not true:
- Everybody wants to be loved.
- There is good in everyone.
- Sociopaths are all deranged serial killers.
Here’s what none of us knew:
- Some people pursue romantic relationships not for love, but for exploitation.
- Sociopaths can look us right in the eye, tell us how much they love us, and be lying.
- Sociopaths listen to us carefully not because they’re interested, but to figure out how to hook us.
- There are people who have no inner core—they change their personalities to reflect what they perceive we want.
- Sociopaths are motivated not by love, but by power and control.
- Sociopaths hijack the human bonding process.
This last point is very important. Sociopaths deceive us into falling in love with them. As we fall in love, all of the biological processes that Nature created in order to ensure the survival of the human race kick in.
When we love someone, we form a psychological bond with the person, so that we feel a compulsion to be with him or her. This bond is linked to chemical and structural changes in the brain that are much like the changes associated with addiction. So we feel an irresistible pull to keep the relationship going. This is why we stay.
Here’s another thing we don’t know: Sociopaths do not form these psychological bonds the way the rest of us do. But they’re good at faking it. So while we are legitimately falling in love, they are pretending to fall in love, and they are fabulous actors. In reality, they are only using us.
How do I forgive myself for putting my daughter in harm’s way?
You forgive yourself because of all the reasons stated above. But with your daughter, you take the next step. You teach her, in age-appropriate ways, that there are bad people in the world. There are people who lie, who cannot be trusted, and she must stay away from them.
You also teach her to trust her instincts. Our instincts will usually tell us when someone is bad news. But we’ve long been conditioned to override our gut feelings, to give people the benefit of the doubt, to wait for “proof” before ending a relationship.
Nature set up our biology to encourage us to stay with our partners. But Nature also set up our biology to warn us when predators approached. Make no mistake— a sociopath is a predator. So if someone makes us feel cautious, afraid or creeped out, we must honor that and run away.
Would it be best if I stayed away from dating?
Absolutely yes!!! You must give yourself time to heal.
Remember, sociopaths are experts at finding our vulnerabilities. If you are still feeling injured in any way because of your experience with the ex-boyfriend, you are a walking target for another sociopath. Many, many readers have told me that they escaped an abusive relationship, found someone who seemed to be the answer to their prayers, and the new lover turned out to be worse than the previous one.
You must make a decision to recover. Face what happened. Allow yourself to grieve and get the negative emotions out of your system. As you put your emotional and psychological health back together, eventually you’ll find a new relationship without even trying.
The answer is always within. Heal yourself, and the rest will fall into place.
I’m so thankful that this letter made it on the site! I have spent a fair bit of time mulling this over and wasn’t sure how to process it.
Thanks so much Donna!
One thing that I have been trying to figure out/process lately is the relationships that were hurt as a result of my relationship with the spath. Am I able to forgive myself for hurting other people?
A short tidbit of my story- To end things with the spath I had to leave the city and move back to my hometown. This naturally put distance between myself and my friends. 2 years later we have mostly grown apart (except for a few) so much that we don’t really talk. Just friends enough to keep up with each other on Facebook kind of thing.
I had 2 friends in particular who tried so hard to try and get me to end things with him, gave me proof (which I disregarded because it was old stuff from years before we were together and I believed that he had turned a new leaf) and I tossed their help aside and stayed with him. They took it really hard. I didn’t know it at the time but they had decided that our friendship was over because I didn’t take their council seriously. After I found this out I was very upset that 2 people who I considered good friends would toss out years of friendship because I had my “love blinders” on and didn’t want to believe that the spath was a bad man. Another point that they had made was that they didn’t believe me when I explained some of the things that were happening. They felt like I was leaving stuff out to make my situation with him seem better than it was. Which sure, of course I was doing that. I didn’t want all my dirty laundry spread around. I spent days typing out what happened from start to finish in the relationship, hoping that once everything was out on the table that they would understand what happened and forgive me for putting their council to the side. After I sent it to them I never received a response.
I have had a really tough time processing that over the last couple weeks. I just don’t think they really understand what a spath can do to you, why you don’t leave them even though everyone is screaming at you to do it. It hurts that they don’t believe what I went through behind closed doors. It is also hurtful that I poured out all my feelings and things that I have kept secret, and not even receive a response from them.
I’m at the point now where it has been three weeks since I sent the email & I have not received a response. I’m not too sure what to do at this point. Do I email them both again? I feel like I need some kind of closure.
LadyA, I’m so sorry to read of your experiences and I’m grateful that you found your way to LoveFraud. Welcome.
Spaths and friends……..that’s a tough subject and one that resonates with me, personally. Unless someone has experienced a spath, themselves, they will NEVER “get it” about how complete the carnages are. From personal to spiritual to employment…..it covers all aspects of our lives.
If you’ve made a sincere effort to apologize to these people and they haven’t responded, let them go, as hard as it sounds. Sometimes, it takes a person a while to digest information, and they are either trying to process what you shared, or they have already cut their losses, as so many do.
One important thing to keep in mind is that we tend to defend ourselves and feel obligated to “explain” what happened to us. Some people will “get it.” Others will have concern for a short time. Still, others will absorb the drama/trauma and thrive on our miseries. We are NOT obligated to “explain” or “defend” ourselves, anymore. We can simply tell someone, “It was bad, and I’d rather not discuss it,” and draw that boundary line, immediately, without risk. Anyone who doesn’t honor that boundary does not have good intentions.
We stop defending and explaining ourselves because we EXPECT for others to understand and have compassion. When that proves to be a false belief, it IS hurtful. So, we just don’t “go there” with people who don’t understand.
There are billions of human beings in this world, and nobody is worth risking our recovery for, no matter how long the friendship lasted. A “true” friend is supportive and encouraging. False friends belittle and degrade.
Brightest blessings
LadyA
You’ve had a lot to process. When I read your post, it seems like you are blaming them, that somehow they are failing you. Your friends experienced rejection by you. Give them time to process, take the time for your own healing, and then try again. Your headspace will be different, andso will theirs. I’m saying this to be direct, not to be harsh. I hope you understand YOU need to give yourself grace, and then you will be able to give it to others.
Best,
Katy
Dear Lady A,
It is unfortunate but your story is not unique…many of us have lost friends because of the psychopaths…the “reasons” may be different but the collateral “fall out” of friends because of our relationship with the Ps is a fact of life.
You did what you could to apologize for the lack of trust in their judgment, and that is all you can do. Say you are sorry and if they refuse to accept your apology, and that is their right to feel that way, then there is nothing you can do. It is just another consequence that you have had to go through because of your choice to stay with him.
We all make choices and some of them are not good ones….and there are consequences to those choices. Losing your friends is a painful one.
I am glad you found your way here though, READ and READ and learn about the psychopaths and learn about how to heal yourself. It takes time and work, but you can recover…and be stronger, wiser, smarter and better able to make better choices. God bless and again, welcome to LF
Lady A,
they sound like really good friends. I wish I had had someone who cared as much for me, but not even my parents would tell me what they knew.
If I were you, I would try again to apologize. Make sure that your apology doesn’t have any excuses involved. I’ve had people “apologize” to me like this, “I only did it because of my PTSD.” or “I was treated badly all my life, so I treated you badly.” or “Because I was with a spath I have learned some bad habits and people just don’t understand me.” or whatever.
I don’t accept those types of “apologies”.
A true apology expresses remorse. It would sound like this, “You were right, I was wrong, I wish I could make it up to you. If you’ll forgive me, I will be a better person.” (that’s a generic example)
Later on, after you’ve made amends, the friends might be interested in hearing more about what you went through and why you made the mistakes you made.
If you’ve already tried taking full responsibility and they still don’t accept your apology, maybe it’s time to take a closer look at your “friends”, maybe they aren’t as nice as you thought. Sometimes, our experience with the spath reveals the true nature of our friends and families.
Lady A, I think Skylar is right on, but if you don’t get a response from the second attempt…then I’d give it up and just move on. There are friends in our lives that may not be there for our entire lives, that’s just the way life is. (((hugs))))
LadyA:
Since you’ve been in a spath relationship, you certainly understand what others have been through. So let me pose a few questions to you…
I was with the ex-spath for 8 years…4 times as long as you were. Would you forgive me for being 4 times as “blind” as you were?
I have TWO daughters. That is twice as many as you have. Would you forgive me for exposing them to that vile excuse for a human being?
He did bilk me out of thousands and thousands of dollars. He put my very life in a financial tailspin. Do you forgive me for that, even though it didn’t happen to you?
I didn’t look to start dating again. I joined an organization where I could volunteer, so I could feel like I had some value and worth as a human being again. But I met someone who is good and kind and responsible and ethical. All the things I want in a partner. And I am as a bored as I can be with him. Would you forgive me for not being attracted to a normal man, and instead I am still craving the excitement, drama and trauma? WTF is wrong with me?!!
Because I have to forgive myself or I will off myself. Which would be the most selfish thing I could do to the others in my life. And it’s hard sometimes, but I work through it and hang on by my fingernails until it passes. I am not alone (even though I have never felt more alone in my life right now) but just because I think something doesn’t make it true.
And guess what? Even if you are having a hard time forgiving yourself, I FORGIVE YOU! Because I was there, I know just what you went through and I understand. So at least one person in this world forgives you.
It’s a start. Now it’s your turn.
LadyA… I just have to ask. Did your ex-boyfriend spend significant time in Maui? and Montana? When you said “5 children he rarely sees” I just had to ask.
Aloha
The Bad Man was so bad… I am sure that someone else that dated him as popped up here at some point but I don’t read enough these days to catch it.
:O) I have healed tremendously from my Bad Man days.
8 years and counting!!!
Alooooooohhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaa