An article in last week’s New York Times magazine contained the following amazing statement: “Repeating a claim, even if only to refute it, increases its apparent truthfulness.”
Although the article had nothing to do with sociopaths, the statement made me think of my ex-husband, James Montgomery. Among his many lies, Montgomery claimed to be a member of the Australian military, a decorated Vietnam War hero, and a member of the Special Forces. None of this was true, but from what I can tell, he’d been making the claims since at least 1980 (we met in 1996). They’d been repeated many times, for many years—which apparently enhanced their believability.
Like most of us here on Lovefraud, I felt like a complete fool for being so totally deceived. Why couldn’t I see the lies? But it turns out that I have plenty of company. Psychological research indicates that in general, people can distinguish truths from lies only about 53 percent of the time. That’s not much better than flipping a coin.
No signs of lying
Some people believe that there are physiological signals that someone is lying—for example, extraneous hand gestures or averting eye contact.
In one study, scientists asked more than 2,000 people from all over the world, “How can you tell when people are lying?” The number one answer was the same: “Liars avert their gaze.”
This may be true for some people, but it is not true all the time, and probably not true at all with sociopaths. Here at Lovefraud, we all have stories of the predator gazing into our eyes while he or she lied through his teeth.
Some researchers believe that liars tend to move their arms, hands and fingers less, blink less, and have more tension in their voices. Still, these behaviors are not consistent—some people who lie display them, and others don’t.
The point is, in hundreds of studies, researchers have found no reliable signal that indicates when someone is lying.
I don’t know, but I assume that the studies were done on general populations, and not populations of sociopaths. If we can’t detect lying in normal people, what chance do we have with sociopaths?
Truth About Deception
The situation gets even worse in romantic relationships. The reason, quite simply, is that we want to believe and trust our romantic partners.
“As people become more intimate and more emotionally involved they also become less accurate at detecting their partner’s deception,” states the website Truth About Deception. “People are too willing to give their romantic partners the benefit of the doubt.”
The Truth about Deception website is dedicated to explaining lies in romantic relationships, and the information presented is scary. For example, it states, “Most people think they are really good at telling when their partner is lying, but research shows that thinking you are good at detecting deception does not make it so.”
This creates, according to the website, a dangerous situation:
- As intimacy increases:
- People’s confidence at detecting deception increases
- People’s actual ability to detect deception declines
- Partners have more reason to lie
The website suggests that the only real way of determining if a romantic partner is lying is through some type of monitoring or surveillance.
Awareness, intuition, evaluation
So what’s the answer? How do we know when someone is lying?
The first step is to realize that people do, in fact, lie. That’s how honest, trustworthy people get into trouble—we don’t lie, so we don’t expect people to lie to us. This is a dangerous blind spot.
Our initial clue that someone is lying will probably come from our intuition. If we get that hit, that inkling, that the truth is not being told, we need to pay attention.
Then, we need to critically evaluate what is being said, along with evidence that proves or disproves the statements. When facts are irrefutable, we should believe the facts, and not the pleas of the liar.
I had a little epiphany today…it seemed so obvious I don’t know why I never thought of it before.
My S lied about everything…big lies, little lies. For some reason after it was over and he was exposed, I didn’t believe the “i love you” lie anymore, but still believed all the lies about it being my fault, and all the things he would turn around on me so it seemed like it was my fault–The things he said that made me question my own sanity and that ate away at my self esteem.
Then this morning on my jog I thought-“If all the good lies weren’t real…then all the bad statements must have been lies too.”
So logical, don’t know why I never saw it that way before.
Done: Good for you!
They really are masterful liars. But, then again, that is all they know how to do. It’s like Kentucky Fried Chicken.
They do one thing, and they do it well.
James thank you I didnt get it yet But I will try later I cant talk to my friend he got her to be home at the right time and watches what she does But then again if I really was her friend she would call me.Even if it were at work What these people dont think about is what they do to the people that love them One minute they are going to leave and you there to help and the next they are going to stay and they are going to work things out. But It hurt the person who help them And after they have done to help them It makes alot easier for the SP to come back to a better life. I think that the person who goes with a SP Has people do things and know that they are going to go back with them My friend had her father fits her car Because the SP wouldnt do it But that what he suppose to do for a living,Now she using the car to drive him around, I think she used her family to get the things that he wont do. Why do these people keeping doing things for these people. And believeing that this guy she shacking up with Will chance, I see it Why cant they?I think these people dont know how they hurt the peole that help them. I know it wont happen here again Maybe shell learn some day But as long as people are there to help them, And they keep going back with the stuff you help them with,Your time, car, heart and friendship. And I dont think shell ever learn Because she keeps thinking he going to change and its been 10 years.Her folks keep helping her to help him so it will be in her life for along time. Im sorry for the people who end up with a Sp But if you arent really going to leave or have doubt. Maybe it best not to get your friends familyhelping you when doen deep you know you will be going back, It hurt these people too and we all know what happen, Make up sex is the best and over and over , While the people are worried and hurting because you were there for them and there are going to have a good life intil it happens again Now I know why people told me not to help out That I was the one who was going to be hurt, And that wont happen again For anyone. Im sorry because maybe someone who really need the help. Have a good night I mess up Oh well Ill learn I hope
Tobadtosad
People who help those that don’t really appreciate it or doesn’t help them to become independent themselves are what we call enablers. This become a cycle. Like an alcoholic in a way. Both parties change roles from being the abuser and victim (if I getting it right?)
[short version]
The enabler (victim) get mad at the abuser for drinking then the alcoholic (abuser) gets mad at the enabler and hits her. She then calls the police (rescuer) and they arrest him and brings him to jail. The next day the enabler bails (rescuer) out the abuser (victim) and the enabler spends all day (abuser) telling him how she can’t take his drinking anymore and will leave him (victim). But the abuser knows she (enabler/rescuer) will never leave him and then tells her he will change and begs for forgiveness. She believes this because it’s his drinking that’s the problem and then things do go alright until the next cycle (drinking/abuse) repeats it’s self.
This is a dysfunctional relationship which effects the whole family; children family members and the community. Some people will stay in this dysfunctional relationships all their life’s. The only true victims here are the children who will themselves grow up and may have dysfunctional relationships themselves and/or have a drug problem.
I hope this helps but I would suggest researching enablers and those that suffer from being co-depended.
Have a good day!
HA HA ROSA!! YOU CRACK ME UP!
James:
Enabler: They enable because they have an investment in the way the other person behaves. i.e. whether or not it is conscious or not doesn’t matter…they still enable because there is an advantage for them in the other person behaving that way.
Usually that advantage is that they never have to look at themselves because they are so preoccupied with the other person.
Once they become conscious of this it very difficult to sustain enabling.
N.B. This enabling is not the same as living with a psychopath. Living with a psychopath is usually because the other person is ignorant of the fact that psychopaths are like aliens. Unlike other human beings their primary purpose is to exploit everyone around them for their own pleasure and also because they do not have the capacity for empathy.
Being in a relationship with a psychopath is like standing opposite someone is who is dressed in a singlet and shorts and saying to them over and over again: ” “give me your t – shirt, you promised me you would give me your t shirt!” .
They cannot give you a t shirt because they do not have one and they never have owned one or even seen one.
P.S. Psychopath have seen pictures of T shirts and if you stay around long enough they will convince you that their singlet is a t shirt and then strangle you with it.
Tilly:
You crack Me up!!
You are the “Thunder from Down-Under”. Now I know where that phrase comes from.
Tilly
Good point and I thought abut that as well but Tobadtosad is new so I didn’t want to throw too much infor at once. But true, enablers/co-depended people do that so that they don’t really have to look at themselves and see they are part of the problem not the solution… Good point and thanks for pointing that out!
Tilly,
“They cannot give you a t shirt because they do not have one and they never have owned one or even seen one.”
LOL! 🙂 🙂 🙂
Cool way to look at it!!!