An article in last week’s New York Times magazine contained the following amazing statement: “Repeating a claim, even if only to refute it, increases its apparent truthfulness.”
Although the article had nothing to do with sociopaths, the statement made me think of my ex-husband, James Montgomery. Among his many lies, Montgomery claimed to be a member of the Australian military, a decorated Vietnam War hero, and a member of the Special Forces. None of this was true, but from what I can tell, he’d been making the claims since at least 1980 (we met in 1996). They’d been repeated many times, for many years—which apparently enhanced their believability.
Like most of us here on Lovefraud, I felt like a complete fool for being so totally deceived. Why couldn’t I see the lies? But it turns out that I have plenty of company. Psychological research indicates that in general, people can distinguish truths from lies only about 53 percent of the time. That’s not much better than flipping a coin.
No signs of lying
Some people believe that there are physiological signals that someone is lying—for example, extraneous hand gestures or averting eye contact.
In one study, scientists asked more than 2,000 people from all over the world, “How can you tell when people are lying?” The number one answer was the same: “Liars avert their gaze.”
This may be true for some people, but it is not true all the time, and probably not true at all with sociopaths. Here at Lovefraud, we all have stories of the predator gazing into our eyes while he or she lied through his teeth.
Some researchers believe that liars tend to move their arms, hands and fingers less, blink less, and have more tension in their voices. Still, these behaviors are not consistent—some people who lie display them, and others don’t.
The point is, in hundreds of studies, researchers have found no reliable signal that indicates when someone is lying.
I don’t know, but I assume that the studies were done on general populations, and not populations of sociopaths. If we can’t detect lying in normal people, what chance do we have with sociopaths?
Truth About Deception
The situation gets even worse in romantic relationships. The reason, quite simply, is that we want to believe and trust our romantic partners.
“As people become more intimate and more emotionally involved they also become less accurate at detecting their partner’s deception,” states the website Truth About Deception. “People are too willing to give their romantic partners the benefit of the doubt.”
The Truth about Deception website is dedicated to explaining lies in romantic relationships, and the information presented is scary. For example, it states, “Most people think they are really good at telling when their partner is lying, but research shows that thinking you are good at detecting deception does not make it so.”
This creates, according to the website, a dangerous situation:
- As intimacy increases:
- People’s confidence at detecting deception increases
- People’s actual ability to detect deception declines
- Partners have more reason to lie
The website suggests that the only real way of determining if a romantic partner is lying is through some type of monitoring or surveillance.
Awareness, intuition, evaluation
So what’s the answer? How do we know when someone is lying?
The first step is to realize that people do, in fact, lie. That’s how honest, trustworthy people get into trouble—we don’t lie, so we don’t expect people to lie to us. This is a dangerous blind spot.
Our initial clue that someone is lying will probably come from our intuition. If we get that hit, that inkling, that the truth is not being told, we need to pay attention.
Then, we need to critically evaluate what is being said, along with evidence that proves or disproves the statements. When facts are irrefutable, we should believe the facts, and not the pleas of the liar.
Witsend: I’m thinking of you, and hope you will check in. No matter what is going on with you, you have my heartfelt concern. You are dealing with issues that have no easy solutions. I know you are trying to do the very best. I hope you are safe.
Thankyou Rosa and James! You made my day today! xoxoxoxoxox
You are welcome Tilly and hope you have a great day!
🙂
I just came across this from the Scientific American: The Science of Persuasion. Unfortunately one has to be a member or has to purchase the article or have an institutional site license. Wondering if the article would give some insight on how we are manipulated?
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-science-of-persuasion
Hi everyone…its been a few days and Im needing some pep talks…
So, I need to confess again. I looked him up on facebook…(repremanding myself in my head right now…). Fine, Ive confessed. It was a half bad/half good choice.
Two things I noticed. First, his profile was open which struck me as odd considering the last time I ‘checked’ it…about 13 weeks ago, it had minimal information on it. That was fine, however, his profile this time had pictures up. Only a couple folders…one from Christmas and one random folder with some random pictures of himself in it (pictures though taken at MY families Christmas or on OUR vacations). One picture he posted in his folder was of him, his son, and his sons mother. Now, this may not sound so strange except for the fact that one other time during a breakup, he had NO pictures up, and strangely enough during the breakup a picture pops up of his ‘family’ (child, him, childs mother). We got back together and he took the picture down.
I thought, ‘he tried provoking me with that picture’, however, I didnt even address it. So, after no contact for 15 weeks, he puts up another picture of his ‘family’ on an OPEN site, where of course I can see it. I dont know if Im being nuts right now or what…maybe just a little hyper sensative, but it seems as though he may be trying to provoke me again…and he SAID the two of them dont really like each other…oh, wait, he IS a liar. The Christmas picture looks forced and uncomfortable, but why post it if they only have the child in common?
Second, in the pictures he posted of Christmas that I saw, I felt something while looking. It was kinda a combination feeling of extreme anxiety, like when you’re getting ready to confront someone and you know it could be ugly, and disgust. The anxiety is exactly that…I havent seen him in 4 months and throug a photo I did.
The disgust though was different. In the pictures, it was like I saw two versions of the same person at the same time. One part of me saw an amazingly handsome, tall, fun person who I absolutely adore, but the other, stronger side saw a sick person…as if he had welts on his face that were oozing puss. I saw someone CRAZY and tried fighting what I was seeing by remembering how I love (d) him, although what was in front of me was very very very SCARY. Its taken me a day to absorb this and be able to articulate it, however, I will tell you that as I looked at one picture in particular, it was like I SAW the fakeness of his smile and could almost HEAR how he interacted with everyone on Christmas…I heard the fake talk, and laugh, and saw the fake smile and charm in the picture…
Have I lost my mind at this point or does this make sense to anyone?
I think the best way to tell if someone is lying is by past behavior.
If they have lied to you once (or to someone else), they WILL lie to you again.
If you are not sure . . and it doesn’t FEEL right. It is probably a lie!
robxsykobabe – what you’ve have experienced makes complete sense.
I see your ‘disgust’ as having 2 components: first, you have integrated his negative behaviors into your view of him and they are now forefront in your perception of him; and second, you are no longer blind to what he is, and so can ‘see’ this in the photographs.
we tend to project what we want to see and/or selectively see the qualities of those we love that most support our perception of them. this has all shifted for you now.
this is very good news indeed, robxsykobabe.
you know how hard we all fight to get to the point of a little bit of forgetting how much we loved them? savor it.
i am sorry though, that it scared you. I think that for some of us, when we recognize what demons they are, we become extra afraid of them – not just of what they have done or are capable of, but because we realize that those things have come form a vaster pool of evil than we had imagined.
So, please don’t stay scared, k? Work with/ through it; I don’t want this person to have any more of your precious energy or more real estate in your head or psyche.
hugs,
one step
robxsykobabe –
Many of us have confessed to doing the profile peek, or the driveby, or the call and listen to messages, etc….
The first thing that happens when we confess is we receive understanding and the second thing is we get tapped with a “Boink” on our head with Oxy’s skillet!
The third thing we try to figure out is how beneficial doing what we did – actually turned out to be for us? It sounds like it was 50/50 for you. The good part is you actually saw his pictures and you were able to see the side of him you probably didnt want to face or grasp or be realistic about. So that was progress.
What wasnt so good, was the ruminating about why he is posting pictures, what his intentions were. If you didnt look or never look again there is no way he can try to provoke you. Its a done deal. He can post away but you need to be on your way and working toward focusing on ALL the reasons you left him. NC means no nothing. You dont need a toxic person in back in your life or in your computer on in your phone etc.
You are not going crazy or losing your mind… you just had a minor set back and are here to get back on track with your little “boink”… 🙂
ltl – funny, i see it as a step forward in the long term.
one step —
I see it as 50/50…
A step forward in that she actually saw his pictures and was able to identify with the side of him she probably was unable to in the past…So I did say I agree that was progress.
But in the short term -it sometimes can cause a minor set back – in that its breaking NC, and allowing all of the thoughts and chaos and confusion as to why he did this or that, or what the significance might be to why the page is public now, or why new pictures are posted…and in the short time we can sometimes revert back to an unheathy place if we dont process it all and find strength to move on, move forward… sometimes it actually makes us a bit weaker – its human nature tho – so we just REALLY have to make sure we get back on track.
And actually I just reread Robxskobabes post where she said it was a half bad/half good choice! I didnt catch that at first…when I wrote 50/50… I think in long term its a step in the right direction too but only if we keep it NC on any level going forward!