Editor’s Note: The Lovefraud reader who write as “Jofary” relates her experience with a sociopath in Canadian divorce court.
I first participated on this site three years ago when I learned that my daughter, then only a toddler, was being sexually molested by her father (my ex). Up until that point, I was dealing with things in the typical way. I had caught my ex cheating on me and, when our son was only three months old, he immediately moved in with his mistress, who herself had extricated herself from her fifteen year stable marriage, believing my ex to be her “best friend and soul mate.” That was extremely distasteful in and of itself but, given my ex’s contributions (or lack thereof) emotionally, physically, and financially to our brief marriage, I was able to disengage from him within a month of his departure. Unfortunately, he became aware that I was not going to be his “back-up” plan after he was done having his fun with this woman, and became extremely vindictive towards me. Perhaps it was my demeanour towards him — he was completely irrelevant to me and I treated him as such by refusing to answer his phone calls or greet him personally at the door during the exchange of our children. In any case, it propelled me on a path to utter chaos and unsettlement.
My ex refused to negotiate on the sale of our house, all the while refusing to share payments on the mortgage or massive family debt (while I was on maternity leave, no less), claiming “it benefited him to keep his name on the deed as long as possible” and eventually confessing that he “didn’t care how much it cost to go to court, he just wanted me out of the house.” He didn’t want much access with his children and sporadically paid child support. The house was my only source of income (rental) and stability for the children and I attempted to buy him out immediately, at the time he left, and when I could afford it. When it became apparent what he was demanding far outweighed what he was legally entitled to be paid by me, and he absolutely refused to negotiate, I reluctantly agreed to sell the house and decided to take the case to court to have it settled.
Moving away
Then, the realization that he was molesting our daughter, coupled with the fact that I no longer had secure housing in one of the most expensive places to live in North America, made me realize I had no choice but to relocate. I applied to a school 300 km outside the area and was immediately slammed with a do-not-remove order by him and a demand to have the children live with him full-time. I can only conclude that being court-ordered to pay child support was weighing heavily on his mind. He was, at heart, a parasite and given that nature, it probably seemed unnatural to be giving money when he felt he should be getting it! I was successful in fighting this because my situation was precarious at best and certainly not in the best interests of the children, and I went on to school in a diploma program that complements the degree I already have in the hope that I would be financially independent in the near future.
Going to court
Near the end of my diploma program, our court dispute over division of assets came due. On the advice of my lawyer, this was an oral process (as opposed to affidavit) so, since I was the plaintiff, I was the first to sit in the witness box and make my statements. It was painfully difficult for me but I did my best, and had prepared thoroughly beforehand. He followed, with his own statements and I was stunned, floored, by the entire debacle, realizing I had seriously underestimated his ability to deceive. I was expecting some lies, but not the outrageous dishonesty he displayed. He was a flamboyant liar — claiming he was responsible for twice as many family debts as I was, that I had refused to cooperate with medical, daycare, and extracurricular costs for the children even though the exact opposite had occurred (much to my frustration and financially difficulty) — complete with an air of sincerity, tears, and victim mentality. I, on the other hand, came across as frustrated, defensive and probably vindictive (the “scorned woman” syndrome) — as I well should have been considering how financially devastated I had become as a result of his parasitic behaviour since separation. I had no defence for his accusations because “my time” in the witness box was over and I realized I was doomed.
In the end, he “won” the case and the assets were split equally, despite the fact that he had not shared a dime in the mortgage costs, repairs to the house, or insurance costs, and had driven a vehicle I was paying for over the last three years, simply because the credit was in MY name, which he didn’t have to reimburse me for. All because the entire oral debate relied mainly on the spoken word, with no opportunity for dispute based on written proofs.
Credibility of witnesses
In retrospect, it would have been much wiser for me to have demanded the trial be done by affidavits, not orally. Then I could have presented the truths coherently and plainly, through the plethora of e-mails I received from him refusing to share costs and acknowledgment he was walking away with no debts. As it were, the judge made his judgment based on the credibility of the witnesses. It was stunning and difficult to accept that even though I told the truth, apparently my ex presented himself to be a much more credible witness than I.
The important lesson that I learned, and which I wish to share with other Lovefraud readers in a similar position is this: Do NOT expect the truth will come out in court during an oral trial. If your ex has been able to bamboozle you successfully enough to establish a relationship, and has a history of deception, then the chances are very good he or she will be able to appeal to judge in the same way. Practice makes perfect, as they say. Written affidavits are far better evidence when dealing with this type of individual, and the more evidence, the better.
I was “insane” yesterday and could have used a skillet smack to the head. I’ve been working on my boundaries for quite some time now and yesterday I just opened the gate and welcomed in a repeat offender. D’OH!
This lady is THE Gloom Cookie. Besides her general negative attitude, she likes to make unsolicited comments about my personal life, I have unwisely answered too many of her questions about my personal life so now she has no problem asking more, and she violated my physical boundaries when I was pregnant by rubbing my belly even after I told her I don’t like it when people touch me. The only time she isn’t negative is when she’s talking about her neices or my baby, and she threw me a surprise baby shower at work, so I show her pictures of my daughter when I bring them in. I forgot that I had decided not to talk to her about my personal life anymore and just answered her questions when she asked, again. I don’t even know why I was surprised when the comments she made after that ticked me off. I ended up irritated yesterday afternoon and this morning over what she said. Sometimes I need some remedial teaching to get it.
Dear Midnight,
Sounds like you got the lesson without the BOINK! So I will let you slide this time! LOL
Ann Landers had a great comment to people who ask questions that are “too personal” and it was “Now WHY would you ask something like THAT?” Emphasis mine, but you get the idea. PUts them on the defensive.
Thank you Oxy and everyone that has helped me in the past few months. This IS a HEALING place!
It has only been 7 months that I realized my daughter was a sociopath. It’s been 5 months that I realized she is actually a danger to me. That fact is just so hard to grasp. So I come here for a reality-check.
I’ve been cleaning the garage for the past few days. I come across small items that were my daughters. It brings me back to her innocence and sweetness, but it also brings me back to the nightmares that she put me through, even as a young child. The signs were so obviously there! I recognized those signs, but at the time, was led to believe it was ADHD. I accepted that diagnosis and studied, sought out treatment and raised her as you would an ADHD child. It was when she was 13 that she was diagnosed anti-personality disorder and oppositional defiance. I did not fully understand what these meant!!
I am currently going to school and considering changing my major to helping people (victims or families) that are dealing with a sociopath. I had also considered working with the courts to act as a sociopath profiler. I have not yet made this decision.
I spent years dealing with unimaginable things with my daughter and I know my experiences would be a level plane for a family in crisis. I KNOW now, I was not in this alone as I felt for so many years with no help. I will know in the next 2 months if this is where I want to shift my studies. My resistance is my thoughts of just “brushing away” those past memories. I want to help people, but I ask myself, “Do I really want to be reminded of the chaos I experienced for so many years?” when I am finally at some point of PEACE.
Dear Tria,
I’m so sorry. My second ex is, I believe, a “Malignant N,” and the pain he caused me was terrible enough. It has to be so much harder to have it be your own child. I had a brief experience from which to draw some idea of your pain, although, I’m sure it won’t really compare. My daughter from my first marriage, who is/was my oldest child and my best friend, went through a rebelious period a year and a half ago at the age of 19. She devalued and treated me like my ex-N. She ran away, across the country with her boyfriend of questionable personality disorder. It lasted only 4 months. She is back, herself again, and wiser from the experience. But, when she left, and during her time away it hurt so much worse than anything the ex-N did, because she was is my child.
I also have two little boys, 8 & 10 who are at risk for their father’s disorder, both because of sharing his DNA and because they still have to spend time with him per our custody agreement. From my end I can only do damage control and demonstrate/teach the values I hope they will learn and internalize. Beyound that I can only hope and pray for the best.
I know what you mean about the past memories. All the record keeping or talking about the toxic ones is like digging up bones. I am embarking on writing a book about my experience with the ex-N and the things I have learned which have helped me find my way back and find some peace…in the hope that it will help other potential or current victims. It is my hope and expectation that this process of digging them up, turning them over, and analyzing each one will strip them of the power to ever hurt me again.
I’m convinced this will add to my peace.
IMHO, we will be reminded of the chaos of our past every day, in various ways, no matter what we do, simply by virtue of being human, alive and having a memory.
In addition to writing the book, I have also changed my major in college from Nursing to Psychology/Human Services. It is my hope that I can then deal with the past on an intellectual level instead so I can help others in whatever capacity I can.
In this way, I turn the tables as well. Not only have the bones lost thier power over me…but I take back the power and make them serve to help others.
In this there is PEACE and JUSTICE.
I am following my heart without fear. I believe God will let me know if I am following the right or wrong path just as he has so far.
Only you can know or “see” His path for you. Follow your heart.
Peace and Be Well,
Escaped
Thank you for posting this.
My ex-husband was just successful in having his Order of Protection dismissed, thus endangering myself and my 13 month-old baby.
I was shocked at the judge’s decision, as I had many documents (police report, hospital statements) and a lot evidence (as well as 5 letters of support from professionals). He didn’t have any evidence at all. He presented himself well and I was confused the whole time.
I just found out this verdict a few days ago and am still in shock at the judge’s decision. I’m also frightened because now my ex knows where I live and his handguns were returned to him. He also posted a picture of him throwing our baby’s bouncy seat off of a cliff, once the Order of Protection was dismissed. I don’t know how to process the fear (I have PTSD from dealing with him) and the shock at having the judge believe his lies. All I wanted to do was protect my baby and the judge would rather pat my ex-husband on the back it seems. I just don’t understand, but reading about this helps me realize a little bit better what happened. Thank you for sharing. I need to figure out how to deal with these emotions now.
By the way, I’m so sorry to read about your pain and all that you went through with this man. I’m especially sorry he molested your daughter. I can’t even imagine how painful that must be to go through, as a mother. My heart goes out to you. Thank you for being brave enough to share. I think it helps people like me to heal. I’m grateful I found this site. I was starting to feel very alone.
Deaar Tria, Escaped and Jillsmith,
I am so glad you are all here and receiving help, knowledge and support from this site. It, I believe, saved my sanity if not my life!
I just got my hands on a book today that sounds like it is WRITTEN ABOUT MY P-SON—I did not realize that Johnathan Kellerman, the novelist,who wrote this book, “Savage Spawn, reflections on Viiolent Children” is also a clinical psychologist who had worked with these children. His “reflections” and descriptions will make the hair stand up on the back of your neck.
In a way, it almost sounds like I wrote it as well (though I don’t write as well as he does, obviously) but he is totally for the “three strikes” laws in California and other states that put repeat felony offenders (mostly psychopaths) in prison for life without parole.
I ordered two more copies of this book today off Amazon for $4.00 including shipping, and will probably order even more copies for others. I think it is the BEST book and explains psychopathy better than any other book I have ever read, even Hare’s “Without Conscience.” I recommend this book fo everone who has ever dealt with a psychopath or a “conduct disorder” child. THIS IS ONE PROFESSIONAL WHO DOES GET IT!!!!! IN SPADES!!!! Yea, for our side!!! TOWANDA!!!!
Jill I am so sorry that your judge didn’t get it at all, that happens sometimes. BE CAREFUL!!!
JillSmith,
You might want to contact Karin Huffer, who is listed in the Lovefraud Professional Resources Guide. She specializes in helping people with PTSD navigate the court system.
http://www.lovefraud.com/resourcesguide/profile/9/
HELLO TRIA!!
I have a daughter who is 30 and i have only recently worked out she is a psychopath. Oxy helped me identify it. It was a million times harder to identify in my own child than in an intimate partner.
How old is your daughter?
I hope we hear some more from you soon. I could do with some advice on what to expect with the female psychopath daughter now that I have gone no contact.
I am inwardly grieving but haven’t shed a tear yet. This is because I am still trying to resolve my last experience in my heart, with my psychopath ex partner.
AI intellectually understand now. However I havn’t been able to witness my own PTSD as much as I am too close to it. I.e. it sneaks up on me and its not until later I realise why I am so defensive towards some people.
I was in the bank the other day and a woman approached me and told me where to stand and how to be and what to do. She caught me off guard and I swung around and said to her, “God, your very aggressive aren’t you!!” She said “ME?? WHAT THU??”
I had to leave there because I realised I was over reating to someone telling me what to do. I felt like my life had been threatened!!
Dear Tilly,
As Blogger T says, that hypervigilence is our reaction to a previous danger, and is normal and natural. It will be two years ago in a week when I fled my home for fear of my son and his Trojan Horse Psychopath. Prior to that I had been living in CHAOS for six months or more because of the Trojan Horse P and my enabling egg donor.
It will be 5 years this july since the aircraft crash that killed my husband, is 4 1/2 years since my stepfather died after an 18 month illness of cancer, etc etc. so my PTSD started with the plane crash and has continued with all the other stressors. I got back to my home Dec 07, so ohave had some “peace” (compared to the worst of the chaos) for about a year and a half. My DIL tried to kill my son in August 07, so it takes TIME to process all this. Plus, the Rapid eye movement therapy was in late 07 and early 08 andhelped a great deal.
My hyper vigilence has decreased with PEACE and contmeplation of it all. Reading things that were pertaining to it, and also processing (thinking about) these things.
Processing these things, not just letting them “jhappen” and not gaining things internally from the experience. When I got the worst of the P-experience processed, then I started digging into the past to see WHY, what it was about me, that made me a perfect target for the Ps. Now it is about working on ME, not about what they did. But also accepting that I can not, could not, do anything about how they were or thought or acted. I can only change and fix ME.
Good for you for seeing what is going on, that is PROGRESS FOR YOU! You will “catch” yourself in these things, and process them and eventually you will come to a point that you realize you are living in PEACE….it will SNEAK UP on you and one day you will realize you are HAPPY AND AT PEACE MORE AND MORE EACH DAY! (((hugs))))