Editor’s note: The following essay was submitted by Lovefraud reader “Presseject.” This is part two of his story. Part one was posted yesterday.
By Presseject
About two weeks after I confronted my S, there was a very dark day in which I was cut to pieces. I am okay now recalling it, but at that time, and for many weeks afterwards, it was like a knife in the heart. I would like to share a bit further with you the silver lining to this part of the story and how that relates to the good work you have done with the site. You see, it went like this:
I had my S visit and stay with me for my birthday weekend. He presented me with fun gifts and a card that included the words signed with “tons of love.” We had been dating for over six months at that point. (This included all the fun, spontaneous “impulsive” trips and arrangements including our visits to Miami, Key West, Palm Beach, Washington DC, New York City, Toronto, and London Ont.) But… while he was staying with me that last visit on my birthday, I happened to glance over at his laptop and saw a heading in his email program on a received email from what I thought was a dating website. So naturally I questioned it and I was told it was no one he knew, that sometimes he visited the site but wasn’t meeting anyone. A real nice birthday surprise!
After he went back, I found the site, having memorized the name of it in the email heading. To find his profile, I had to create one for myself. Once I did this, I saw he was very active at the site, logging in each day and the profile was marked as “looking for a relationship and/or one-on-one.” This left a sinking feeling in me. I thought we had a relationship, so again I needed to let him know it didn’t sit well with me. To do this though took even greater strength. I remember turning to God in prayer at that point to ask for that strength to find and face the truth, whatever it might be. And this was actually the beginning of my new relationship with God. Together with God’s help I knew I was going to get to the truth (I am still in this quest and I will continue this prayer) but little did I know it would turn my world inside out and leave me without the dream of love and feeling something others have described as being emotionally raped.
The day I after I spoke with him about my feelings about the site and his profile which he said calmly he’d “take into consideration,” he sent three typical friendly emails, pictures of himself with family, links to fun websites, nothing out of the ordinary. That evening though, he called and said it was over. He was going to try to find someone closer to where he lived possibly. He said he couldn’t explain me to his family although oddly, a few months prior, he had introduced me affectionately to each and every one of them! I was stunned and expressed my shock, especially after all the birthday gifts and words of love shared the week before. That sinking feeling was the Titanic going down then. To be discarded so quickly without much of a sound reason was baffling and horrible all at the same time.
Somehow I had the sense (when all seemed like chaos and NO sense) to google “personality disorder” along with the word “relationship” about a week after that. It led to the various sites on narcissism that seemed to give hints at what had just happened. (I learned to do searches excluding the words “Sam,” “Vaknin” and “Malignant” after a while). A close friend soon suggested the idea of a sociopath to me. (I still very much like the description one visitor has offered at Lovefraud of a “sociopath parading as a narcissist”) and it was the descriptions of a sociopath I found at Lovefraud that fit so well with my experience of the shock I had experienced of being “discarded.” But somehow, unlike many of the stories I had been reading, I hadn’t sensed that I had been completely “devalued.” (Discarded yes, but devalued?) That maybe my S was not such an S after all. (Later on I would read many entries in the site about those of us who are left wanting to still find hope in these kinds of situations, the appropriate and helpful reference to the Stockholm syndrome in particular). So I was, at that point, very hurt, very confused and still hopeful that love might still triumph. After all, I had never met someone so “nice” and fun to be with (at the beginning of course) and even after the hurt, it then still seemed worth “fixing.” (Part of me now thinks that having that kind sweet hope alive probably serves to help to cushion the extreme shock of what is plainly a hurtful and illogical abandonment.)
So I rose to the occasion, and again called on God to help back me up. It was at that two week time period after his “gotta go now” quick ending of our relationship that I sent one very kind and considerate email suggesting that perhaps that there had been a misunderstanding, that it seemed a shame to throw away all the fun and passionate friendship we had been enjoying so intently. In return, the next day, I received the most caustic, illogical, insulting and degrading note I have ever read from anyone. All I can say is THANK GOD I had found the Lovefraud.com site the week prior because as this horrible dark experience took such a sinister turn, I knew from reading your site enough to know that part of the equation, (the part that was missing) was the “devalued” part. I had been discarded the week before with not much of an explanation. And sure enough, I then had it in full force in front of me, the “devaluing” part, seething with vile and cold inequity.
His heartless letter was filled with twisted statements about my body that he thought revolted him (odd, since throughout the entire six months I was told over and over how desirable I was!) The rest of it was illogical too, the reasoning seemed childish, trivial and hurtful. But it set me free actually. I had prayed to God for strength and understanding. I had found this, God had indeed helped me to find the tools of understanding and knowledge through your site from experts and through the words of other survivors you have helped. Through reading your site, I was somewhat “protected” when this insane letter was received having been somewhat warned about how a sociopath might behave. It was the most startling realization, painful of course yet on the other hand, all the “pieces” of the puzzle now fit. I really can’t imagine how much worse the pain would have been without the good information I had found at Lovefruad.com. Thank you again for being there! Although it was one of the most damaging emotional things I have ever experienced, Lovefraud has been a real part of the silver lining in getting through this storm. The other part I guess is me… I did the hard part of walking through this and caring for myself enough to get my sanity back.
I can tell you this much too; as others have noted here, friends, ministers, group therapy and other places I have turned to did not quite provide the kind of human compassionate understanding I needed to help me through this over the last three months. I was going through days in which I was strong with my new understandings. Other days I was left trying to find even a shred of what my heart had been or felt like. I knew “no contact” was the only option even though I would still get urges to write and send things (new feelings of forgiveness, anger, or needing justice still surface from time to time.) Learning these kinds of individuals cannot change was also helpful. Over time, the hurt I experienced was less and less about my personal shortcomings (through his hurtful words that I had mistakenly held up against myself only adding fuel to his fire he started). Lovefraud helped initially for me to learn some basics about the behaviors (how to identify a sociopath, etc) \and then went even further to help me regain myself again, to learn this could be the start of a whole new positive change for me and my approach to relationships (which I also learned has been punctuated by somewhat similar encounters although nothing as awful as this last one). I am resolved now to keep seeking the truth in others and in myself. I won’t be so quick to be attracted to those with effortless charm and fearless impulsiveness or selfish motives, no matter how “successful” they might be in other areas of their lives. I have learned about my old pattern of picking out this kind of “successful” person from a crowd. I have learned about my own impulsiveness and (controlling) need to be a caretaker to someone emotionally unavailable. It can work in the short run but not for anything more substantial… like love.
That is where I am heading now, towards love, a shared love, and with luck I will find this. Lovefraud has helped and this is why I have taken time to write here, to express continued gratefulness for all those who make this site so helpful. My words are here for God too, as a prayer to share with Him my gratefulness during this recovery period, for His help and the strength he has given me to rise above the chaos with new insights and compassion for myself. To experience how I am able to take responsibility too for my own welfare, to be an active and (still) loving part in this process. God answered my prayer and I believe He will also answer others who ask and pray. (A higher power can do this, however you come to see this and whatever names you choose to use for it)…
To go one step further, my words here are also a prayer for those that are also, at this very moment, trying hard through very difficult times to find their own understanding and strength. I hope you find it and I hope you are also able to set yourself free from all that is cruel, careless and hurtful. (Please read all you can about this kind of disorder, it really helps to get past the hurt from being left in the dark.) We each have this power within us, it is up to each of us to find it and put it to good use!
Had to fight some bad feelings today. I am now just over 4 months with No Contact with the S. But when I look back, I never really got to tell the S how he hurt me. Instead, I just shriveled from the impact of his abrupt devalue/discard. Then that note he sent with all is hurtful (ill)-logic that cut to the core of my insecurities, the nearly juvenile caustic comments about my body. It was so unreal. Only days before he was talking about how much he enjoyed cuddling in bed with me! It came out of nowhere. So, lately I am fighting a residual surfacing feeling of.. wanting justice! But there can’t be justice with one who doesn’t get it. Like what is the point of trying to show your hurt feelings if they don’t even speak the language of feelings. Then I had the urge (and this bothers me almost as much, if not more, as it is like fighting evil with evil)… the urge to get back at him… through the internet (anonymously) as I know exactly where he lurks. But this is pointless too (I know) as it still doesn’t resolve the hurt. (We are not God, this is not our job… I know… I wish I could get the feelings to go away.) Maybe just sharing this here is all I can do and then try to walk away from these feelings, these urges to set him straight (so to speak) or to mess him up. It is useless to even think about it, but the feelings surface anyway, I am powerless over them but am holding on to NC to somehow get through this… Unfortunately, I think his insanity rubbed off on me (I think of it like being around a sick person and I caught some of his disease. I am trying to heal. It is best to stay away from someone so contagious, huh? Thanks for any advice or support on this. Everyone here has been so helpful.
presseject
presseject…
i just got off the phone with my mom, and i was saying the same thing to her. i want justice. five weeks after my ‘discard’ i’m furious. he also said horrible things about my body, after always telling me i was the ‘best and most beautiful’ he ever had. like a first grader, he went straight for the weakness of every woman. her body. and he was brutal. you’re not alone in this either. it’s sick and hurtful and we all want justice.
of course i want to ‘set him straight’, but we both know they’ll NEVER get it! never. he even had the nerve to ring my bell a few days ago. did i want to let him in? only for a second … so i could SET HIM STRAIGHT! but i didn’t. and i’m SO incredibly glad about that. what would i have gotten? more lies? more b.s.? more drama? more confusion? NO!
yes, the need for justice is always in the back of my mind. i was so good to him, so giving, so loving, so faithful in every way. and what i got for it is the exact opposite of what i gave. where is the justice? in all of us knowing we’re not sick, or depraved, or whores, or without conscience. it is them. i know it’s not always enough, but we can only control ourselves … not them.
hang in there. you are understood. trust your instincts; they are right. no sense in letting him steal your peace of mind even when he’s not there. enjoy your day. it is yours, free from the drama and hell of him.
TOWANDA!!!!!
Dear Press eject,
“Vengence is mine saith the Lord”—though the thoughts of “revenge” and “justice” and “making him hurt like he made me hurt” are very normal, natural feelings that we have, but many times we don’t get them the way we would like to. Sometimes the criminal P doesn’t go to jail for their thefts, or other crimes, and sometimes the P who D & Ds you, skips merrily on to the next victim, seeming not to care that you are lying in a heap on the floor, in the fetal position, sucking your emotional thumb, crying your heart out.
It has even been proven in some research that thoughts of vengence actually give our brains a shot of the “feel good” hormones when we think about taking revenge. But dwelling on these thoughs keeps us trapped in the cycle of pain.
Boy, did I want to tell my P-son off, and boy o boy, did I want to hurt my DIL for trying to kill my son. Even now I still someimtes “gloat” a bit that they went to jail, so I did get a measure of Justice and they did get a measure of consequences for their behavior.
The only consolation I have really had is that NO CONTACT has been really frustrating to me P-son, who can now no longer manipulate the family members against each other, play the ends against the middle etc.
Lostingrief is right on about the justice is us knowing that WE ARE NOT LIKE THEM. How can you know what good is without knowing what EVIL is? He doesn’t CARE what Good is, he is content with the evil. He does’t care how he has hurt you. Telling him would only give him satisfaction or disgust, and hurt you more. He just doesn’t “get it”–that what you have is so much more valuable than anything he has. You have a conscience, are able to love, and care. He is devoid of any of these things that make us really human. God bless.
Dear Oxy and Press eject: Don’t forget, we are to focus on taking the higher ground … turn the other cheek. If you dish out revenge, then we put ourselves at the same playing level as them. We end up worse, for it. How then, do you continue living a life of peace and harmony, if you sink to their level? Do you want to live a hell as miserable as them? Why do you think they turn off their emotions? They don’t want to accept the life they are living! All the sins they committed, one after the other. The first sin of believing in their big egos started the process … then the next sin and the next and the next. After sinning for a while, sinning becomes your nature. That’s what your mind is focused on …. and that’s what your life ends up being. Your ego taking off, not focusing on staying humble anymore. Harmony is then replaced with chaos. Chaos is what they live.
When you get past your pain, you’ll see the bigger picture of what is going on … with jealousy, hand in hand with greed being the Mother of ALL SINS.
It’s anyone calls. Take justice into your own hands … and you end up living a life like there’s.
Peace.
presseject – there is no tangible revenge – no getting even – It’s a terrible loss and there is no where to go with that loss. It’s static. It doesn’t evolve into lost love. It just remains as a loss. Grieving a P is a burden, it’s a hole in one’s life. In the end, the final discard belongs to us. We set the limit. We end the dance. They have no limits and are unable to do this. The abyss between devaluation by our partner and the ultimate discard by our choice is bridged when we realize there is no going back in any way. No friendship. no enmity, there can be nothing at all.
lostingrief: Hey. My ex-soc controlled me so much when I was full from eating and stopped he would comment that I wasn’t eating enough to keep my figure to attract other men. So, i played into his game and overate and got a big butt. He was latino so all the rice and beans went right to my bottom! One night about a month before I caught him with the OW, he made a rude comment how big it was. Huh? He used to tell me not to worry about what i ate or what i looked like so i stopped taking care of myself. I also stopped taking walks because he would comment that i was walking around trying to get men to look at me. As soon as he left, the weight dropped and I started taking care of me again. I look like my pre-soc days. The only revenge i have is thinking how the OW’s but is growing everyday. How frumpy she is starting to look. How many tears are probably rolling down her face, I wonder how much money she has left. (sorry for wishing her bad but she knew he was living with me all along.) LOL!!! so don’t feel bad! He’ll never be happy with anyone.
Henry: Think of what they did to us this way. They took from us because of a void in them that needed to be filled. We find it confusing because that void isn’t in us … and therefore, no need to fill it. There’s the confusion for us … what is it that was lacking in them that they came looking for us? That’s why God says to focus on him … because we as human beings don’t know what kind of cross another is carrying. Hence, turn the other cheek. If they are still missing/lacking something, turn and give them your other cheek.
It hurts us because we assumed they felt as secure and whole as us. They masked their insecurities from us … not wanting to show their hurt. When they hurt us was because they were coming from hurt. Since, none of them have talked to us … ran away … we never got to ask or figure out what is it in them that is lacking. We don’t know their pain.
Peace.
OK Henry: Here it goes. Bottom line … ready for this?
We loved them, as we should love everyone … because everyone has God inside of them. So when we love, we are loving God. That’s why God says to respect and keep harmony with everyone, because it is loving God.
Peace.
I felt that awful wave of emotion yesterday when I take that detour into the past and get trapped thinking about the hurt. This site really makes a difference… you are all helping me to restore my faith.
lostingrief: It really helps knowing that others have had this same shock and abuse. When you wrote “you are understood” I had a tear in my eye from the relief of being validated through this ordeal. Words make a difference, even a small sentence like that one. It helps me, thank you so much. I took more of what you wrote to heart today too… enjoying my day as you suggested: free of the drama and hell he put me through. I found a few moments and remembered that I am safe now. That logic and compassion will prevail in my life now. I have a new way to see the world and there is certainly strength and eventually joy in this.
Oxdrover: your words too help my heart heal. You are right, he “doesn’t care.” That is all I need to know really. (A sharp reminder, this must be the frying pan at work…) I have been through the pain of that realization over much time. But it is still good to face this simple reality again when I am slipping into the past and the hurt. He doesn’t care, He doesn’t get it. He is not equipped to ever get it. I have a warm loving heart. He doesn’t. There is no reason to feel connected to this man, to think about such a warped and sad existence. He can be what he is. I can be what I am. Thank you for reminding me about the value of my caring heart. I am truly lucky to have found this site, to have healing words offered to me. It is a blessing indeed. Bless you too Oxdrover.
Wini: Yes, thank you for helping me to see it is just not worth sinking to their level. That is a trap. We have this moment to create peace and love. It sounds flaky maybe but I’d rather be lost in feelings of love and harmony than lost in frustration, hurt, anger or revenge. But I won’t be totally lost in my new direction, no way… I am learning to take care of myself now. Finally, after so many years of neglect is seems. The S’s, P’s and N’s (and… H’s- histrionics and B’s-borderlines, I think I’ve played the whole deck) can ALL stay on THEIR side. I’ll be waaaaaaaaaay over here!
Henry: I know from reading your posts you gave so much of your heart away and how much you have overcome. You are right… “they have no limits.” We have the opportunity to set the limit. Not just in how we deal with our memories of this but how we set the limit from now on in all our relationships. That is also a blessing really, to know we have a new gift of knowledge and understanding. I also like what you wrote about getting past this: “No friendship. no enmity, there can be nothing at all.” That is about acceptance and about releasing this. I know I am moving in this direction. (It is a slow process.) Helpful words like yours help to get me there faster I think… thank you!
deep breath… no revenge, no longing… NO CONTACT!
presseject
Dear Presseject,
You, Henry, and all of us at one time or another, are on the “see-saw” (teeter-totter) and we go up and down, up and down, but as we heal (and NO contact helps that, it is essential) the ups aren’t as high and the down’s aren’t as low, and eventually it slows down so we can GET OFF if the bumpy ride. We reach a level place, a steady place, and our feet are on the ground–then we CONTROL our destiny. As long as we give them the POWER that is OURS to influence our feelings, our thoughts, our lives, they are in control.
WE CAN take back that control, we gave it to them, but we can take it back. We aren’t powerless–we are POWERFUL, and we are STRONG. We can make choices, we can do what we know is right, even if we don’t want to do that. The Ps do what they know is wrong because they want to. They don’t care what it does to us. We have a choice to do what is right for us, we can “parent” our inner child, tell it “no more candy tonight, sweetie, or you will puke” even if our “inner child” is screaming for the “candy” of contact, or whatever. We owe it to ourselves to do what is RIGHT, what is GOOD and what is BEST for us, and not let that “child” run wild.
If you were “parenting” a young child, you would not “give in” to that child and let it run wild, eat whatever it wanted, bathe or not bathe as it wanted, or other things that were not good for it. You would care for that child. OUr own inner child, the emotional, loving, caring, wonderful part of us, BE AS KIND TO THAT CHILD AS YOU WOULD any child. Discipline the child with love and kindness, but at the same time, don’t let it play in the street, don’t let it eat a diet of nothing but grief. Nurture and care for that child—that inner child that is YOU.