Editor’s note: The following story was submitted by the Lovefraud reader who posts as “Greenfern.” It is a classic story of sociopathic seduction.
When I first met the S, I was very young, 22, and in a pretty bad spot. I come from a broken, abusive family and I have been pretty much on my own since 16. I was managing by putting myself through college, working full time, step by step. A year before I met the S, I was hit by a car and the recovery from that sent me into a depression and hardship. I had no family support or insurance, so I pulled myself up by the bootstraps and tried not falling behind. I felt alone and struggling, but managed. I feel like I was a strong young person considering the circumstances.
Then the S appeared in my life. He was my TA at school. As it turns out he later told me that he had been observing me for over a year, but I was acting “stand offish” and “unapproachable” so he had difficulties getting to know me. So I guess when I hit the bottom after my accident I have become more approachable in his eyes and he pursued me.
Constant care and attention
He courted me very intensely, I felt off guard, like a deer in the headlight. He came across as this very dignified, old fashioned (he was only 28) gentleman with strong interest in my background. He kept asking if I needed help in my school work and brought me sandwiches and kept coming and coming at me. I felt strange, but I was flattered by the constant care and attention. Inside myself I felt weird, it did not feel right. But then I dismissed my own discomfort. I told myself “maybe I just need to relax and accept the attention and kindness”. I think at the time I have isolated myself from people and had little trust in myself being liked for who I was.
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I told myself that maybe it was time to open up to people and receive. The problem with this was that I made the wrong choice of person to open up to.
He kept pursuing me harder, showering me with gifts and sweet little notes. He even branded my name into his arm. That should have been a big red flag. In fact when he showed me my name burned into his skin, I felt physically ill to my stomach and had a rising panic within me.
He wanted to hang out at all times. I felt like I had no time to myself at all. I kept telling him that I needed to do stuff on my own, but he replied to that by asking if he could come over after I do that thing. He wore me down with persistence and I did not say no. I did not know how to say no.
Phony clowns and bozos
Before I knew it, we were hanging out all the time. He told me about his problems with his parents, he made preachy speeches about the phoniness and hypocrisy of the world. He told me that now it’s us against the world and to “f___ the phony clowns and bozos of the world.” He convinced me to let him shave my head for a home movie. He told me that I was a mess and he will take care of me. He had me help him with his projects, including these films where he dressed me up as a boy wearing leg braces. He would pretty much decide when to eat and sleep. Many times I wanted to sleep at night, but he was asking for more.
In the same time he put me on this special pedestal, told me that I was the one for him and that I made him a better man. He said I was very special, he loved me, I was his best friend. He said we were meant for each other. He always asked if I was “the one” for him. I just could not say yes. I think this made him angry, but he would not say.
Completely suffocated
We moved in together, I have cut off my friends and social life. The S and I were doing EVERYTHING together. I felt completely suffocated, yet I could not even be clear to myself as to what was wrong exactly. I would have crying spells and could not put in words what was wrong. He delivered these little pep-talks about being strong and not caring about what the world says.
He took over many things in the household. Even though I was perfectly capable of doing those things, I have always managed previous to meeting the S. When I would do these things, he always made me feel like he could do them better; he would take them out of my hand. Slowly but surely he would be doing all these “favors” then make me feel like I owed him. He got mad at me because I did not say “I love you” enough in response to his million “I love yous” during the week. I did not love him. I dreamed of some miracle happening, so I could get away out of the relationship. I had fantasies of him just going away. The idea of me ending the relationship filled me with dread, dread to his response. I felt like I owed to him to stay with him. He always said “I saved you, you were a mess when I met you” then following it up with “I love you”.
He would go through the garbage to see what I was doing on my day off and I am pretty sure he was monitoring me, even though I have no proof. He grew marijuana and collected toy guns in his special room. He also hoarded his own urine in soda bottles. According to him, he was too busy with his projects to go to the bathroom. Gradually he has become too busy with his art projects to have time for me. He stopped initiating sex. When I wanted to talk to him about the sex issue, he shot it down with “sex is WAAAAY over-rated” or “what do you want me to do about it?”
I wanted to feel the way he made me feel in the beginning, but I did not understand why he took me off the pedestal. In the beginning he would want to have sex multiple times a day, but now he did not even want to hear about it at all. I did not understand what happened.
More and more criticism
At this time he started criticize me on small things. For instance on my grammar. English is not my first language, so I felt sensitive to the issue. He said I was sloppy in my language.
Then more and more criticism has arrived, and he has become more and more withdrawn, physically and emotionally. He refused to have any discussions about the relationship. He said I was the one who had a problem with the relationship. He also told me that his friends were surprised that he did not have a younger and prettier girlfriend.
I think what was the beginning of the end is that I got a good job that I liked, made me feel good. I think it really gave me confidence to stand up for myself more. I started pointing out some of his BS, yet I was not feeling strong enough to break up with him, even though I wanted to.
Bringing home a drunken girl
On our 7th year anniversary night he told me he would be home by 8 pm, so we could spend some time together. He came home at 4 am with a drunk girl, laughing. The girl was one of his students. He was offended that I thought that there was anything weird about the situation. I was livid. I felt like my world collapsed. He showed up with flowers the next day.
Then not much after that, we had a Thanksgiving party where he acted like a total ass. Then he broke up with me the next day.
He was was unfazed and calm. He combed through all of our stuff to make sure he took everything he felt a right to. He went about with complete calmness, purchasing new bedsheets for his new place. Completely cold. He told me that he was now seeing a therapist and he thinks he is pretty depressed. For the last 3 years I was BEGGING him to see a therapist. He would not even talk about it. But I think this was just an act. Later I found out that he was cheating on me for the last year and a half with the woman he married not much after we split up.
I have been in therapy for a while now. I realize that those years I lived in a complete lie and I chose to be blind to it. My task is to recognize that blind spot and protect myself from Sociopaths like him. I’m a work in progress.
Please if you are out there involved with a sociopath, trust your intuition!
Lovefraud originally posted this letter on Jan. 26, 2009.
I just recently met a guy- at a bar no less. Instant attraction and interest felt mutually. We exchanged phone numbers, and agreed to spend the day together the next day.
We had a nice time. He was FULL of flattery.
Then later that day he said, “I would never do anything to hurt you.”
Sirens went off in my head. The HIV positive sociopath said the same thing to me. And I even told him about that experience, and also that he said the same thing.
Later he said, “Thank you for coming into my life.”
More sirens. HIV guy said the same thing.
This guy doesnt live here though. He was just visiting. He left a few days afterwards. But those two days I bet I recieved a gazillion texts telling me what a beautiful person I was inside and out, telling me how sexy I am, and how much he wants to be with me….and looks forward to getting to know me….
what do you think? Socio? or maybe he just really likes me?
He does have a job. A house. Is stable.
I googled him, and checked him out. I didn’t find anything out of the ordinary. He story pans out as far as his career……
but I can’t ignore the comments he made that were WORD for WORD what HIV psycho said.
Some red flags that seem to belong to every new relationship with a s/p…
1) “He courted me very intensely” Like a hunter who gets their prey in sight their are very focus on that shot!
2) “He kept asking if I needed help in my school work and brought me sandwiches and kept coming and coming at me” How they just can’t do enough for us! I remember that one so well..
3) “Inside myself I felt weird, it did not feel right” It’s this feeling inside that we really need to pay attention too! I know how I felt it as well..
4) “He wanted to hang out at all times.” This one is very important as well. How they want (need?) contact with us 24/7 in the beginning of the relationship but of course this too will end after the “honeymoon stage”…
5) “He told me that now it’s us against the world and to “f the phony clowns and bozos of the world.” Listen to how they view other people and the world. Because this is how they will treat us after the “honeymoon stage” ends..
6) “In the same time he put me on this special pedestal, told me that I was the one for him and that I made him a better man.” First we are praised like Caesar but then stabbed in the back again like Caesar…
7) “He said we were meant for each other.” This one I call the “soulmate” pitch.
8) “He took over many things in the household.” The beginning of control and wearing down our boundaries .
9) “I wanted to feel the way he made me feel in the beginning, but I did not understand why he took me off the pedestal.” See number 6.
10) “At this time he started criticize me on small things. For instance on my grammar. English is not my first language, so I felt sensitive to the issue. He said I was sloppy in my language.” To make us in “their image” they must break us down and take away our personal power. The criticisms also start “small” but will build over time.
11) “Then more and more criticism has arrived, and he has become more and more withdrawn, physically and emotionally.” This is control and tells us if we do what they want we will be rewarded and if not… Well you know.
12) “He said I was the one who had a problem with the relationship.” Projections, This of course happen throughout the relationship, but will be intensified over the course of the relationship. Good red flag so we needs to look for and know what a projection is and see it when it happens.
13) “Please if you are out there involved with a sociopath, trust your intuition!” Yes we need to trust our feeling and when we experience them we need to start asking ourselves some very hard questions and then start packing our bags.
Thanks for sharing!
“But those two days I bet I recieved a gazillion texts telling me what a beautiful person I was inside and out, telling me how sexy I am, and how much he wants to be with me”.and looks forward to getting to know me”.”
Well texting anyone a “gazillion” times can’t be a good sign for me anyway. Way to intrusive for my taste…. Also building anyone up like this is again for my taste a little too much.
Just my two cents so….
Be safe and careful…
DAB,
I would just be sure and keep the walls up and stay suspicious until you are sure of anyone. You know now what to look for. Just be smart, and don’t feel bad cutting anyone off who you think may put you at risk.
Thanks for sharing your story, Greenfern. I see so many similarities. When I was in my early 20’s I’d also been on my own when I was 16, escaping from an abusive family life and was way more independent that anyone should ever have to be. My first several bf’s were actually wonderful human beings. But due to my upbringing, I had weak boundaries, a poor sense of self, and inability to stand up for myself in a constructive way. The relationships all failed. Then I had one significant relationship with an emotionally unavailable man that was similar to your relationship in that I just was not able to effectively stand up to him. Eventually, he cheated right in front of my face, and I was left devastated for years. It’s only recently I realized how incapable he was of really loving me.
Cut to last year when I was 47 and living a life that is (again) way more independent that it should be, along comes the S, flattering me all the time, promising to buy me expensive stuff I needed the first time he met me (!), wanting to be with me a lot, and complaining of excessive boredom (a classic sign of sociopathy). I, too, felt put off by it at first and created some distance by telling him I was not interested in dating, only being friends. True to the amazing acting ability of sociopaths, he became a totally different person, backing off, and being the friend I wanted without the pursuit. It is what finally hooked me in, even though he eventually confessed that he was married (whole other story).
Fortunately, by this time in my life I had a little stronger sense of myself. After 2-1/2 months of no-shows and inconsistent behaviors, I got out for good and never looked back.
I wish for you continued healing, Greenfern. Those of us who come from such screwed up families seem to go through life with a hole inside and inordinate need to be cared for. It makes us vulnerable to dangerous people. I know you will make a better decision next time.
Dear Greenfern,
Thank you for sharing what must have been a difficult time in your life with us. They are so “predictable” with their flattery at first and then like James pointed out, down the “line” with numbers 1 to 10+
I am glad you foound love fraud and are here sharing with us. This is a healing place and learning about them, I suggest if you haven’t yet, that you go through the archives and read all the articles one by one, and then later after that you can go back and read the comments if you’d like, but I bet just by reading the articles themselves (there is soooo much good information here) you will gain more strength and power!
Regaining our strength and power is important. You came from a bad background you said, but you were obviously a STRONG girl at 16 to work and put yourself through school. He took that strength away by pretending to want to helpyou, but he sucked your life out for 7 years, but now you are gaining it back. (((((hugs)))) and God bless you, Greenfern, and welcome here and thanks for such a good article.
The his number from my phone. I just don’t feel right about him. He was too full of flattery. Too many similarities for me to want to purse anything with him. The texts have stopped.
Hello all, still here, still not giving in. Things have settled and apart fromt he odd spitefull and cutting text I hace nc still. He did say there was court hearing next week to get a judge to order me to explain why I will not let him see the children and that the judge would then make a ruling. I have had no formal leetr neither has my solicitor so I am inclined to disbelieve him.
I empathised with the author of this letter, finding as each layer of lies and conceit unfolded there was still may more layers still to be uncovered and yet to come.
I now realise that he never existed, he perfectly tailored his act to suit my needs..I was bloody conned..and now I am not taking any hostages. Its all out.
Smart Girl Muldoon,
Nice and cynical.
Hang in there. Have you been getting your rest? Hope so.
You’re in my prayers.
Dear Muldoon,
SO GLAD YOU POSTED, dear Muldoon! I have been so concerned about you!!! I am glad that you sound so STRONG too, and don’t believe a word the sod says! Yes, you have been conned!!! Let that knowledge and the anger you feel and the betrayal you feel make you stronger and give you resolve to hang in there!!! I am so proud of you, WARRIOR WOMAN!!!! Take no hostages!!! Good girl!!!
Don’t let his tricks make you crazy any more, don’t let his tricks make you doubt yourself any more, or doubt what he is. YOU KNOW what a piece of trash he is!!! Never let that leave your mind.
I will keep you in my prayers as well, and Elizabeth and I are not the only ones praying for you and sending positive thoughts your way for the protection of you and your babies! (((((hugs)))))